see you back here in an hour. jon: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> good afternoon this, is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner, andrea tantaros, kirsten powers, today's #oneluckyguy, arthur aidala. he is outnumbered. >> whoever produce this is show has terrible judgment. this is my third or fourth time. i don't know why they keep asking me back but i guess to be tantaros's punching bag. i accept it. do the muhammad ali rope-a-dope. >> i was hitting heavy bag, i look up who is on tv, arthur aidala, fox local. waving his arms. >> punched bag harder. >> firing right hooks. >> using the bald head as a

target. >> this is a case you feel passionately about so we want your expertise. second time less than two weeks now, massive unrest in america. another, after another grand jury decides not to indict a white police officer in the death of an unarmed black man. >> no justice, no peace. >> this time in america's largest city. thousands of protesters pouring into the streets of new york, blocking traffic at major intersections and some bridges, resulting in dozens of arrests. after a grand jury in long island declined charging white officer, who can be seen on video placing the man in apparent chokehold. that man, eric garner, died. officers were trying to arrest him for selling loose cigarettes, untaxed cigarettes on a city street. hours after the grand jury decision, attorney general

eric holder, announcing the justice department will conduct an investigation which could lead then to the officer being brought up on federal civil rights charges. holder, alluding to the problem of racial tensions between police and some minority communities. >> we've all seen the video of mr. garner's arrest. his death of course wag a tragedy. -- was a tragedy. all lives must be valued, all lives. mr. garner's death is one of several recent incidents across our great country that have tested the sense of trust that must exist between law enforcement and the communities they are charged to serve and to protect. >> president obama echoing his attorney general saying that what we saw in that video points to the concerns many minority communities have had with police going back decades, a problem, that the president vows to work to fix. >> i want everybody to know here as well as everybody who may be viewing my remarks here today,

we are not going to let up until we see a strengthening of the trust and the strengthening of the accountability that exists between our communities and our law enforcement. >> aidala, to you first, i'm calling you by your last name. >> that's cool. >> before we even started on the show. we were all heated on couch, that is why i'm going last name on you. you feel very passionately, we discussed this is fairly compared to the case in ferguson? >> i do not believe it is fairly compared. i don't think there is any comparison. i mean in ferguson it was undisputed that michael brown had just commit ad violent felony. here, eric garner is selling loose cigarettes on the corner, quite frankly we can walk out the studios there are three guys doing it right around this

block. and in ferguson, you have the michael brown being aggressor at some point. everyone says he mixes it up with the police officer and in an attempt to grab his weapon. you don't have that here. i think we're going to disagree but he is, when they're asking him to put his hand behind his back, to place him under arrest, he is what we say in the da's office flailed his arms as opposed to putting his hands behind his back. a lot less of intrusion on police officer than reaching for his weapon. >> do you agree or don't agree with the decision? >> i am surprised. i thought they would have charged him with lowest crime which is criminally negligent homicide. which means -- >> police officer. >> the police officer. which means, the police officer didn't intend to seriously hurt him. the police officer did not intend to kill him. the police officer did not act recklessly but that the way he acted wag negligent to the point where it rises above a civil

negligence. which means you have to pay money and negligence where you go to jail. obviously the grand jurors found even though he may have done something wrong, he made a mistake, might have done something horrible it didn't rise to the level where it was criminal, where it was a crime that someone should go to jail for. >> then of course we heard from president obama, we heard from attorney general eric holder. politics obviously getting involved. however, art, you already said a civil rights investigation is warranted in this case. andrea? >> do you think, arthur, i want to ask you quickly before i weigh in, do you think a civil rights investigation, you said you think it is the way to go. but doesn't that tell you eric holder is seeking to get somebody by doing that? how hard it is to prove? he did the same thing with ferguson. >> i will answer the last question first, very hard to prove, number one. number two, not to get too deep into the weeds. eric holder is leaving. the woman who is supposed to take his place, coincidentally

is the u.s. attorney for this jurisdiction. her office is looking this. will become the boss of whoever takes her place place. the every time the police officer makes a arrest in local municipality looking over their shoulder, you didn't do this right. that is why it is such a high bar. >> is the level of intervention we've seen from this justice department into local issues, not just eric holder or president obama? i don't think it is his business. i have to say watching the video i'm disgusted. over the top. there was no reason for that. i'm surprised there wasn't an indictment. we don't have enough time to do it on this couch today. i hope we will have a discussion about modern policing. i'm very pro police, but something is going on with militarization and tactics used by police departments across the country. typically not nypd. something is going on and scary and threatening to our rights.

>> almost like a throw pack where we had just rampant, just rampant crime on the streets. here in new york, you know, after mayor giuliani and bloomberg -- >> we don't. >> that's right. but they're reacting to it, it would seem when you watch this tape with those tactics. at 1:30 eastern today you see the mayor and police commissioner. they will come out and talk about retraining this police department. i think what andrea brings up is a good point. you're reacting, selling untaxed cigarettes is a crime. we know that. doesn't matter who on the streets is doing that. >> kirsten, there is a question -- >> not a violent crime. >> it is not. >> we were disagreeing about before we came on whether he put his hands up. to me his hand went up. and at that point, you know, they should have, they should have backed off. so the question is, what is it, what is it about this that would make a grand jury -- let me finish. let me finish. what would make them not indict, when they indict pretty much everybody that walks in the

door? the thing that would not indict that the prosecutors and police are too tight. i know you disagree with that? >> i don't disagree with that. >> they did not make a strong enough case. literally we know the saying you can indict a ham sandwich. you bring somebody before grand jury they get indicted unless they're a police officer. >> when talk about the hands, he was arrested 30 times. he knows the drill. >> 31. >> he knows the drill. we're sorry. he says, no, no, no, i'm not. this stops here. he is verbally telling them, i'm not allowing you to arrest me. they have to go to the next level which was a physical takedown. we said, why couldn't they tase him? why couldn't they mace him? his asthma so bad, with somebody severe asthma you may kill him as well. >> but they didn't know. that they didn't know when they put an mma chokehold on the guy. >> why are five police officers fighting the crime of selling untaxed, you know cigarettes? this is not a violent offender?

>> to that point he was resisting arrest. i think is the answer. before we move on, arthur, you have reached out to mayor de blasio, the mayor of new york city on this as of today. >> yeah. i look, i agree what you say, regarding the relationship between the police and the district attorney's offices, all of them. it is such a symbiotic relationship. they are so reliant on each other. that is the way the system works. it makes it very difficult for prosecutor to go into this grand jury room to indeed a police officer and this prosecutor who has all the police officers -- >> you should believe there should be special prosecutor? >> yes. when there is serious felony alleged against a police officer, against a citizen, i think the chief judge of new york should pick a lawyer who has no stake -- >> did you tell the mayor you want to be the special prosecutor? >> i have no interest in being that special prosecutor. >> that is interesting. to keep it from going to next level which is federal level. >> we have to move on.

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unilateral actions. and then the united states senate should take this bill up and pass it. >> earlier house minority leader nancy pelosi addressed the media saying congress needs to take action on immigration now. >> there is one person standing in the way and that is the speaker of the house. we asked for a bill and we asked for rejection, a rejection of what is on the floor today. >> meantime 11 states, led by texas are suing the obama administration for its move by immigration saying the actions trample part of the constitution as well as federal law. the white house responding quote, the supreme court and congress have made clear that federal officials can set priorities in enforcing our immigration laws. we're confident that the president's executive actions are well within his legal authorities. all right, harris, on this one, so, i believe that they're reacting to pressure from constituents to do something now on this while we've already said

harry reid is not going to do anything with this bill, it does show that they're taking action but real time to do something is when they come back and control both chambers, i think, specifically on boarder security which most people support. that is after the new year. >> but you know you talk about that pressure among those constituents. we're headed into the holiday season of the those lawmakers are really going to get an earful. to at least look like you're doing something before you have to sit down across the proverbial kitchen table we talk about with voters it is probably very productive but i'm not surprised this wouldn't start with spearheading in texas. look at all the illegal children and others who came across in the last few months in arizona and texas. texas attorney general greg abbott said in a statement, the president's unilateral executive action tramples the u.s. constitution. he goes on to say the constitution takes care clause limits the president's power and insures that will faithfully execute congress's laws, not rewrite them under the guise of

prosecutorial discretion. that is really interesting. that those are the exact words and his president staff said they have a right to do this. so who is right, arthur. >> i think the president may have the edge here. but i think it is great they're bringing in the lawsuit. i think it is great there is a challenge. >> so they have a case? >> yes, this is not a frivolous case. >> can they both be right? >> probably not. but it could be one of those gray areas where a judge will say, you know what? the president can do x, y and z, but he actually went a little further than that so we'll taylor it back. >> isn't that the issue, arthur, the scope of what he did. >> exactly. >> they're saying that he illegally rewrote immigration law. he refuses to enforce existing law. >> that second one is the bigger one. in other words you can't really order people not to enforce an existing law. and, the president of the of the united states can't stand up and say we're not going so lock anyone up for money laundering anymore. he can't do that.

>> can use prosecutorial discretion to make determination what is priorities will be? there will be always for any president, there will not be enough people to do everything that needs to get done. so they are going to have to make decisions right? that falls under his discretion and i think that is their argument. laurence tribe, the most respected constitutional lawyer in the country has said this is, this falls under the president's authority. so i agree with you. i think it's a gray area. i think it is one of those things that you have smart people on both side saying, one hand it is constitutional. on other hand saying it is not constitutional. >> some republicans say it is constitutional crisis. i think if the court, sandra, come back and say, you can't do this, president obama, and then he decide to keep going with it, then we have constitutional crisis. one of the things they mentioned i want to ask you about is the cost of illegal immigration. >> unbelievable. >> there are already hiring i guess the, federal government if you want a job there, for

enforcement jobs. we're looking at 65,000 to $87,000. sandra, just for alien, i'm not supposed to use that word, illegal children alone. those costs to the taxpayer. billions of dollars. >> i think you're referencing the fact that the, there is a report out that the federal officials paid child care providers nearly $183 million to care for 2400 unaccompanied illegal immigrant children for four months earlier this year. the timing is very peculiar of the job positions that you mentioned by the way. department of homeland security is, like right away listed that they had all these jobs available. 1,000 job openings, right after the president's announcement. which tells us that they laid the groundwork for this well before he ever said he was going to do it. also by the way, the u.s. citizenship and immigration service, they're hiring as well. and these aren't, despite the president's stating these are terri plans, these are permanent positions. so all of this is very interesting, and very costly to the taxpayer.

>> isn't that a great message, harris? >> we knew that because we knew card stock was ordered for millions of green cards. >> they were just making posters. >> what is wrong for with this? what is wrong with preparing? also the money spent for unaccompanied children we do believe in human rights in this country i think. that basically went almost all to faith-based organization. >> we're just pointing out dollars spent. >> implication is that it is bad. so all that money, let me finish, all that money went to faith-based organizations that cared for the children. the catholic church, for example, did a lot of that, catholic charities. i think that is money well-spent. >> i think we're seeing kirsten, this is where republicans need to go, talk about the amount of immigrants that are enrolling into medicaid, the costs involved. overcrowding in schools. these are already -- >> you can't enroll in medicaid unless you're an american. >> states federal balance sheets are busted. we can't afford basic services

for americans. >> you can't enroll for medicaid if you're not an american. >> not according to the administration. they will be lax. >> you have to show a social security card to do that. this idea the drain, you're right, there is a drain on the schools. i agree with you on that. they don't get, they don't have access to government programs. >> 42% of immigrants are now enrolling into medicaid. >> immigrants. that is different than illegal immigrants. >> they said, kirsten, the white house reversed course that illegals which e will be able to, people making legal under this program, able and eligible to sign up for obamacare. that is complete about-face from the white house. it is going to be incredibly costly. >> also worth pointing out a lot of these people, majority of them actually pay into social security, they never see that money. >> i don't know about that. buyers remorse about obamacare. what a senior democrat saying about the way health care law

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i look back and say we should have done it correct way or not done anything at all. senator harkin who is leading senate next month, not only high-profile democrat expressing regrets about obamacare. just last week the senate's third-ranking dem, chuck schumer of new york, says his party should have focused more on needs of middle class rather than passing health care law back in 2009. kirsten i would be remiss if i didn't go to you first on this a bit of honesty coming from democrats here. >> thing chuck schumer said we should have toke discussed on other things. i always said that, i was a huge obamacare supporter and was viciously attacked by liberals saying that was crazy. so nice to hear chuck schumer saying it i think that was exactly right. even though i supported health care reform it was not the right thing to be doing right out of the gate, especially there was so little support for it. >> is it too little too late? why are they just now, andrea, coming out against the law? >> you listen to tom harkin, thanks, tom. thanks for that information that

everybody besides the democrats had actually, a lot of democrats knew it, gruber you into it, everybody knew it wouldn't lower cost and most people knew it would hurt middle class americans, now what? now what do we do? if he said we should have focused on helping middle class americans, doesn't that imply obamacare is hurting middle class americans? and that is where republicans need to go with their messaging. the facts back that up. all these two are trying to do, these senators are give their party political cover. i find it knaus sitting. >> you think so. >> yeah. especially schumer. >> i think it makes things worse for them. i think it makes worse for democrats. >> i don't see how it gives them political cover. i think it gives them credibility, especially schumer falling on his sword. you know why? he is hearing from constituents, whatever you want to say about chuck schumer he is my senator. he was my congressman. he is out. he goes to all the local, little mom-and-pop party. >> that's true. >> i'm sure he is getting his ear chewed off.

i am. i'm paying for for this. i can't even understand it. i need health insurance. i'm not covered by anyone. i hand it off to my secretary. i can't figure it out. >> that is lot of power for a secretary. >> it is complicated. >> so the enrollment period for renewals and for new policies opened up after the midterm elections. people are freshly looking at the real price tag what all of this is going to cost them as individuals and families, right? got that going on. but you know, i'm a little confused. i think it is disingenuous for the democrats to come out now, well, it was too complicated. where were they when nancy pelosi said it is so big, oh, my goodness, gracious, i'm paraphrasing her. >> where were they defending american people. >> we'll read it. >> did you ask them to adjust. >> every democrat voted for it. >> why didn't they slow doesn't process then, you know what? we better read what is in the thing to really understand it. i think jonathan gruber is doing a little more damage than anybody realizes. >> they knew what was in the by

they knew exactly what was in the bill. >> no, i wouldn't be surprised tom harkin behind scenes was pushing and other people and they lost. anyway we have to move on to the next topic, ladies. with tensions, and arthur, yes, sorry. attention starting to turn to the next presidential cycle you would think lots of people would show up to hear hillary clinton speak. yesterday in washington the former secretary of state gave a speech to auditorium littered with empty seats at georgetown university. leaving many to wonder if support for hillary is waning. hmmm, what do you think? >> is there fatigue? >> i can tell what you the school says. the school says, it is, finals and students are, studying and hillary was there four weeks ago. people were lined up around like it was grateful dead concert. everybody wanted to see her. >> dating yourself with the grateful dead but that is okay. i know what you're talking

about. >> so, yeah, so do you buy that? is it maybe because finals? >> no. because, if they said, i don't even know, taylor swift was there, you really think that place wouldn't be sold out. >> or sandra, what if elizabeth warren had shown up? i bet that place would be packed. >> interesting for her to test the waters. arguably, probably would have gotten a bigger crowd. i don't know, this wouldn't have happened to president obama when he was, making his decision to run, right? >> yeah. >> he was overwhelmingly popular. kirsten, you tell me, what is the conversation right now about hillary clinton? has she been too saturated? is she been too much after shoo-in, the american people are ready for somebody else? >> i think most political, something like 85% of democrats want her to be the nominee. so i do think that she has probably most democratic voters. but maybe these younger voters aren't as enthused with her because, we've seen these polls,

younger voters have moved away from the democratic party. they're not moving to republican party. they're becoming independents because they're so disenchanted with all of these politicians. she is kind of a quintessential establishment politician. >> she doesn't exactly represent the millenial generation. >> right. she doesn't exactly represent, get off your seat and go yeah. lots of energy either. have you seen her speeches lately? what is she say she is so dry and dull. if students need help going to sleep which they don't, listen to her speak. we've seen her. she looks tired. she hasn't had a new idea in decades. >> tell us how you really feel. don't hold back. tell us how you're feeling about this. >> she should have the room packed. she is overexposed. >> even now president obama, remember right before the midterms in maryland he went there to help the gubernatorial candidate and room looked almost like that. right? >> i think overexposure thing has to be a factor because at

end of the day if you think about it, she is a historical figure, right? should draw people. former first lady. former u.s. senator. >> can i just throw this out there? >> she is a snooze. >> could be a one-off thing. >> can we really paint whole picture of this one auditorium? i think we'll have to see multiple occurrences to know it is a trend. >> younger peep, like when they were born she was the first lady. they were like, young teens, she was a senator. then when they started getting into the -- she was secretary of state. she is always been there throughout the course of their lives. it may not be such a big deal anymore. >> president obama said the nation was ready for new car smell. perhaps there was a new vehicle parked out of side. >> what a turn this is taking. >> wow. >> he said it. i didn't say it. he said it. he said it when asked about her. i didn't say it. >> speaking of hillary, another democrat who just might have an eye on the white house is former

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i want people to know that i had an encounter with bill cosby in the summer of 1973. his behavior was like that of a predator. >> mr. cosby walked me to the bedroom after a second shot of amaretto. he said it would help my cold. i laid down. he laid next to me on the bed. >> so you have those women, plus yet another woman who has come forward. she has filed a lawsuit against cosby claiming the legendary performer molested her in a bedroom in the "playboy" mansion in 1974. when she was 15 years old. that changes accuser lot if you will. some 16 women reportedly now because that obviously would be a minor. your thoughts, arthur? >> well these particular women, obviously that is heartbreaking, these particular women with this

particular i know very well, this is her mo. those women were not speaking extemporaneously. they were reading off document the attorney prepared. asking to waive statute of limitations. for years the government put statute limitations there for a reason. it means you can't come back 25 years later and accuses somebody of something. they have no way of defending themselves. hypothetically in 1973 when this woman saying bill cosby did something to her, if he was in vietnam performing for the troops, how does he remember that now? how does know that now? how does he defend himself now? i think all three women are taking about events happened before any of you were born. so at this point, it is a defendant is in a position that she or he can not defend themselves. that is why there are statute of limitations for every single crime except murder. >> thank you. by the way for making me so young. not true. but you know i have a couple of questions then. one would be, would you ever

advise bill cosby to wave statute of limitation. >> no way. of course not. how corks he has met millions and millions and millions of people. >> so what does he do. >> there is nothing for him to do. just shut up. live your life. >> nothing in the court of law though that would look at this trend of so many women stepping forward? although it is so many decade, arthur? >> 40 years later? no. nothing on the books say if 40 years ago you committed all of these crimes and all these people said you've done it, for the -- >> that is the part i don't get about the story, kirsten and andrea. why did all of these women wait so long? >> that is thing i don't understand, they waited such a long time. if you're to believe them this was so horrifying and table, they all have awful stories why didn't they come out sooner? there are some of them though. that is only thing that makes me stop because the number of victims is growing by the week. >> we're in very different culture now. you have to remember, used to be very different when i report ad

rape. when you record ad rape back then you were often treated as if you had done something wrong. you were put on trial. your whole life was dug up. they were not sympathetic to you. very, very difficult ture. so i think it is understandable that they didn't feel safe especially with somebody so powerful. >> i think you're right about that, kirsten. i think that culture is from a long time ago. i just think it is odd they're coming out right now. it has been easier for rape victims to come out at least in the last decade. >> then you do have these numbers. you know there is safety and power in numbers. just from devil's advocate point of view, say there were four or five women came out, which would be horrible, now that there are upwards of 16 or so, as an attorney do you start, like ambulances lining up around the block. and you're wondering, well where there is smoke there's fire? how do you look at this. >> obviously where there is smoke there's fire. that has to enter your brain. what has to enter your brain,

talking about putting $100 million on the table. clear what the motivation is. she didn't say, you better get ready to spend rest of your life in prison. talking about we want your money. and also you know, when you talk about a different culture, i agree with everything you said but there was also a different culture. he was a superstar, even in 1974 and 1975. she didn't say, one woman didn't say he held me down and he did this and did. that he offered me another class of amaretto. >> no, but she opined drugging her. >> that is not drugging her. he didn't say take the pill. >> some of the women did. >> just talking about that -- >> i want to, curious what you said about the fact that they were reading from prepared statements. to me that would seem normal. pretty harrowing. they're not public figures. >> you know what it is? >> seems like really good actresses, if it is acting because they're crying. seems pretty sincere. >> google this attorney and for

the past 10 years, it is same thing. over and over and over and over -- >> al sharpton of the law. >> no, i understand that. wouldn't you, if you had a client, if you had to tell a really harrowing story and you're not used to being in front of cameras wouldn't it be normal to read prepared statement? >> again i have a problem with the credibility of who is orchestrating the whole thing. she did the same thing a case i was involved in and jury took five minutes to find my client was not guilty, specifically with the crying and statement. >> do you think bill cosmos biwill serve anytime? do you think anything will stick. >> no unless something took place six years more or less. that is the statute of limitation. >> i wonder about the court of public opinion. >> that is whole different -- >> he is canceling concerts and giving refund to some of them. we'll cover news as it happens on this. think as sort of a lie detector for your smartphone. we'll show you what may be the first-ever app that can tell when the truth is being told. >> i really meant i liked that

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. to jon scott with what is cop coming up in the second hour of "happening now." jon: thank you, sandra. jim webb has a stark warning for democrats saying they have lost interest among a lot of americans because they have lost the reputation of caring for the poor and middle class. we'll ask chris wallace about his comments. iraqi officials say two separate car bomb attacks killed 15 people in baghdad. this comes amidst reports suggesting that iraqi security forces are speeding up plans to retake territory seized by isis much. "usa today" reporting that iraq's army could launch a major offensive isis isis terrorists this winter.

the dow and s&p hit new record highs yesterday. we'll get a check on the markets for you. "happening now." >> we've watch, jon, thank you. jon: thanks, i'm clearly outnumn every way shape and form possible. >> don't you forget it. >> now my stern with this story and this one really hits close to home. appears tables may be turning for men and women when it comes to dieting. no, not hair loss, dieting. one writer claiming that men are now praised for their weight loss regimens while women who diet, they're shamed into keeping it a secret. women are constantly urged to fight fat talk so they don't encourage eating disorders. i like that part of it. men talk about how great they feel when they lose a lot of weight. when matthew mcdonald mcconaughey lost 50-pound for a role calling it a fun adventure. mila kunis got rail thin and

found her body disgusting and relieved to gain weight. it is common for women, when i was a kid, i learned about weight watchers and things like that. that was a woman thing. it wasn't a man thing. and now, in 2014, on monday, it was my birthday, right? and i was lucky enough -- >> happy birthday. >> i'm going to be 60, 134 more years. i was lucky enough to go to lunch with bunch my close, close friend, colleagues, all men, stag lunch. my dear brother in arms, lawrence taylor. the size of a tree trunk. and we're all, pasta. >> i'm sure he appreciates that. >> all kind of stuff. he is not eating. i go, taylor, what's up? why aren't you eating? i'm watching my weight. i'm trying to lose weight. two weeks before that we went to steakhouse. he used to get the 48-ounce, $60 thing especially i was paying, biggest steak. this time ladies come over, what

would you like, mr. taylor. i would like the smallest steak that you have. >> petite fillet. >> lawrence taylor eating a petite fillet. that is unacceptable for us manly men's. >> no carbs. have a potbelly like me. you can survive. >> you're in great shape. >> professional athletes changed conversation. you see pitch guys for jenny craig. thinking like dan marino and some others who really made it in vogue, if you will to be in best shape of your lives after 50. only way to do that as metabolism slows, so i have read. >> are we allowed to say it? >> i will say it. metrosexual men are on the rise. that in their grooming, their high between, manscaping trend. >> what is manscaping? >> what is manscaping? >> manorexia, men who have eating disorders.

>> not like they're lumberjacks. >> this is all part of marketing. men are being marketed to on everything. not just metro section walls. they have to, i mean now they're making clothes, like skinny clothes for men. you have to be skinny to wear them. you have to watch your weight. men are living with what women lived with. >> arthur comes in skinny jeans. >> real skinny jeans. >> i like to have a scotch and get amani cure. >> i think that's hot. >> that is not hot. >> the new world. >> from outrage to inspiration, as one artist design as shirt with pictures of famous female scientists on it. that's cool. but they're doing it to counter another shirt that sparked a lot of anger. we'll explain coming up on "outnumbered." ♪

♪ >> for a follow-up story we brought you on outnumbered about a shirt that some people said was sexist. the scientist involved in landing a space probe last month wore a shirt covered in scantily

attired pinup girls and now there is a version of great scientist all women and she will mass produce them and remind women that being a woman working in science is cool. >> i, the shirt is inspirational and kind of hideous. >> lou dobbs would say that is what is great of america. good for her, she is making a statement of women in technology and other sectors and the shirt is hideous. >> i agree. i didn't see the issue with his shirt. he did something amazing. it was art. >> and what we are talking about in the break, there is a

designer named isabell and used to do purses with similar woman that are buxom and it is art actually. i am not saying that shirt is art. it is not very attractive. but taken from art. he is a scientist and kind of a doshg. >> and i would get in trouble if "n it. >> we have a t- shirt with our face. >> a best seller. we got them out in time for christmas. >> and if you dazzled it. >> harris is going, i got to color skoem my t- shirt. >> right. not a comment. and only thing people are talking about is the women on your shirt. poor guy, i feel bad for him. he can't get a break. >> i think it is good to get girls involved in math and

science. we will stay right here for outnumbered on the web. go click the overtime tab. and we are back here tomorrow on noon eastern and "happening now" starts right now. >> let me know when you present that shirt. fox news alert. we are waiting for a vote in the house expected this hour. president obama's executive order on immigration. it is considered to be mostly symbolic. it would not likely pass the senate, but the president can't can't choose which laws to enforce. it is happening now. >> we have a broken immigration system in the united states of america. >> and the governor- elect of texas leads a group of 17 states suing the president. there is more fallout on capitol hill today.