protests in several cities tonight. to the protesters' credit almost all are peaceful. that's american. and the american way. see you tomorrow. welcome to "hannity." tonight emotions remain high in new york city following yesterday's announcement that nypd officer daniel pantaleo has been cleared in the death of eric garner. last night we witnessed hundreds of people taking to the streets of new york city and other cities around the country to protest that decision. according to the "new york post" at least 78 arrests were made throughout the night and more demonstrations are expected tonight. we turn now to fox's own jonathan hunt standing by in the middle of tonight's crowds with the very latest. jonathan. >> reporter: sean, the crowds are even larger than they were in fact last night. we are in downtown manhattan.

behind me you can see the supreme court of new york and the federal court. so we are at the heart of the new york justice system. the justice these people feel was denied to both eric garner and michael brown. let's try to talk to a couple of the protesters here and see why they're here, what their point is. tell me, sir, why are you here tonight? >> well, i am a pastor in brooklyn. and as a religious person i believe that my faith and all faiths uphold the sacredness of life -- >> reporter: do you feel the justice system was served in these cases or not? >> no, i feel we live in a state of an injustice system. i think the justice system seldom serves for people and people of color in new york and everywhere in the united states. >> reporter: ma'am, could i ask you your thoughts and why you're here this evening? >> the same reason. i don't think that there's

justice for people -- for colored people in this country. >> reporter: the case being made in the michael brown case that many of the eyewitnesses who gave testimony to the grand jury were african-american and they said that they believe from their point of view that the michael brown had actually turned and charged towards the officer. and they heard all the testimony, same with the grand jury in the eric garner case. so a jury of your peers said justice is being done by not charging anybody. what do you say to that? >> well, i don't necessarily agree. but i won't put myself in their place. the point is there's a whole systemic culture where you have white cops constantly controlling and having power over poor people, people of color in the community and people aren't represented within the community. and as long as that's the case, then it's very difficult to take seriously testimony. >> reporter: thank you, ma'am. sean, those are the views down here. you hear the same chants once again, no justice, no peace,

hands up, don't shoot. sean, back to you. >> jonathan, thank you. meanwhile earlier this week the congressional black caucus caught a lot of heat after taking to the house floor on monday night to address the grand jury decision in ferguson with several members repeatedly referencing hands up, don't shoot. watch this. >> hands up. don't shoot. >> hands up. don't shoot. >> hands up. don't shoot. to all american who is are disturbed by the demonstrations that are taking place across this nation, i want you to remember these four words, no justice, no peace. >> these demonstrations show that this issue of detention and stopping of black men especially black men in the streets has been simmering below the

surface. >> joining me now cbc member congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. you say the issue of, you know, detention and stopping black men in the street, you are -- did you read the evidence that was released in this case? >> i did not. and that is not a concern. >> the evidence isn't a concern? >> for me -- >> what? >> for me, out of this tragedy now eric garner has come a much larger concern and a much larger picture. >> these are words you're saying -- >> that has -- >> you have a position of power. you're saying that the evidence in the case that the -- >> -- >> the reason michael brown was stopped is because police had a report of a robbery and michael brown fit the description and turned out to be the guy. that was in the evidence you say you won't take the time to read. why? >> i'm sorry. if you want to talk about something that other people said, you can. this is my view. >> witnesses? >> my view is that wherever you stand on whether it's racism,

whether who struck jon, we are losing the big picture. and the big picture and the reason i think young people are in the street is because of the stops on the street for people who happen to be black so often that it has become routine. this is an opportunity for a conversation between police departments and their own communities. that's what i'm hoping come out of this. not more of who struck john and the evidence. that's for you -- that's for the pundits. ere i am. >> it's fascinating to me -- >> let's talk about where other people stand, then you're not going to get that. where i stand is we ought to be discussing -- we ought to be using this as an opportunity to discuss how police and african-americans and our communities across the united states can begin a conversation that we've been needing to have for decades now. >> but your colleagues,

congresswoman -- i'm talking about what happened on the house floor. they went out there with a narrative that is proven false. >> i will not speak -- i went out there as well. >> with hands up -- >> if you want to ask me -- >> are you going to listen to my question or speak over me? >> no. i'm telling you what i said and i'm willing to talk about what i said. if you want to talk about what they said, you have them on your program. >> explain what the grand jury heard because that's called evidence in the case. let me put up on the screen what witness number 10 said. the police officer exited the vehicle with his weapon drawn pursuing mr. brown, mr. brown was quite a distance and he stopped. and when he stopped he didn't get down on the ground or anything. he turned around and did some type of movement. i never seen him put his hands up or anything. i can't recall the moment that he did. i'm not sure if he pulled his pants of or whatever he did, but i saw some type of movement. then he started charging towards the police officer. the police officer then returned fire.

well, not returned fire, opened fire on mr. brown. another witness said that michael brown charged officer wilson like a football player with his head down. which would render the narrative hands up don't shoot a lie. why would people in congress, lawmakers, advance what is clearly based on the evidence a lie? >> you know, is your problem you couldn't get any of them to come onto explain themselves? because i didn't do any of that and i didn't say any of that. >> you didn't even read the case. you didn't read the evidence. >> there was conflicting testimony. some people are going off of the testimony you said. some people are going over the other testimony. that's not my concern. my concern is the start of the conversation. if you want to talk to people who have other concerns, have them on your show. >> evidence isn't a concern if you're going to take a position on a case? in other words, if michael brown didn't -- >> i am -- i have not read the

transcript because my interest is not in what happened. my interest is what should happen. where we go forward from here. that is my interest. thank you very much. >> i have one last question. is there a lesson to be learned that people shouldn't rob stores, intimidate clerks, fight for cops guns and charge at them like football players with their heads down? is that a lesson to learn? >> that lesson gets taught every day. i certainly hope everybody learns there's a larger lesson here. and that lesson is between law enforcement and the communities they police. let's get together, let's figure out what we can do about this big issue in our country. >> all right. congresswoman, i hope you'll take the time to read evidence in the case before you talk about a case. i think it would be helpful. >> i haven't talked about the case. i talked about what we should do going forward. not about the case. that's not my interest. >> issue of the deliberate stopping of black men. you did talk about that as a result of the case. >> but that's not about the case. that's what happens to black men in the united states of america every day.

that's what happens -- >> you didn't want -- >> report what you want because i come right back at you -- >> you can come right back at me all you want. maybe you should read laws before you pass them. >> maybe you ought to listen to what i said before you ask me questions. >> i know. but you talk about a case, you didn't read the evidence. >> i didn't talk about the case. i talked about the -- >> talked about the issue of detention of young black men. >> that's the great lesson of what's happened in new york and what happened in missouri. >> well, that's exactly my poibt point. the evidence is important. you should read it. thank you, congresswoman. appreciate your time. meanwhile my next guest kentucky senator rand paul speaking out about the eric garner case and says he thinks politicians and taxes are to blame for the entire situation. the senator joins us. senator, good to see you again. i'm making the same point. six dollars a pack, city/state taxes, that has created a black market. and they literally have cops, because of the revenue involved with fines and arrests, they

have cops whose full time job is to go into stores and check that the new york tax stamp is on every pack of cigarettes. this is insanity to me. never should have happened. this man never should have been involved with the cops ever over this issue. >> well, it may not be the whole explanation, but it's at least part of it because the thing is about six months ago a directive came down from city hall through the police commissioner saying we want you to aggressively go after people selling individual cigarettes that may or may not be taxed. and i think, my goodness, do we not have enough violence going on in our community that really needs to be policed that we're going to go harass people for selling cigarettes? >> senator, you can smoke a joint in the streets of new york city and all you're going to get is a summons. i'm not even kidding. that is how this mayor treats that issue. >> but i don't want to make light of this. i've seen the video, unfortunately, several times. and it is sad. it's horrific to see him gasping

for breath and saying i can't breathe, i can't breathe. and there was a case like this about 30 years ago, there was the michael stewart case where in new york city he was spraying graffiti on the subway walls. and it's illegal. we don't want it to happen. but he was held in a chokehold by 11 white police officers, again, who were indicted but were not convicted. the question here is something wrong really also with our tactics. i understand police have a tough job and if someone's armed, unsure, it's dark and all this, but this was in the daylight they outnumbered him five to one, i think there was a better way than holding him in a chokehold. >> i am sure, and i really want the evidence released because -- we have to go back nine of the 31 arrests of eric garner dealt with untaxed cigarettes. it's absurd. the notion that this is even a factor in this man's life is unbelievable to me. but i think for people that really want to understand the grand jury decision, i bet it

was very sanitized, very technical. what are the officers taught in terms of appropriate behavior, inappropriate behavior, a legal chokehold, a chokehold versus a headlock, a carotid artery chokehold. it got very technical in there. and a headlock is not a chokehold as everyone defines it. i would argue that's probably how they came to their decision. >> here's the other thing, sean. not many people have been mentioning, legal standards are difficult standards sometimes to prosecute people. but there's another standard for employment. and i think one announcement would be good and it's sad in this officer's case, but at the same time he used bad discretion. he didn't use discretion and made a very unwise decision. he should not be given the power to be able to use that kind of force. so i don't think you can have an officer that makes this bad of a decision work as a policeman. and i know it sounds sad, but eric garner died and he didn't need to die. >> but do you really believe the

officer's intent was -- i mean, there was resisting on eric garner's part. >> i don't think it has to be the intent. and that's why when you talk about conviction or indictment versus continued employment, there's a much different standard. the standard -- >> how are we -- how is he supposed to get him to agree to be handcuffed if he's not going to agree? >> right. well, i think using deadly force for people who aren't armed really is not what we should use. >> again, if you look at the coroner's report, yeah, contributed but he also had high blood pressure, asthma, heart disease, all contributing factors to his situation, no? >> right. but you have to have discretion. so for example if you see an 85-year-old woman jaywalking, it's against the law, do you put her in a chokehold? you see a big guy selling cigarettes, is that something the community really wants to even be involved with is what i would say. >> thank you, senator. appreciate it. >> thanks, sean. coming up, the one and only

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what is your reaction to j christian adams? >> i think mr. adams is onto something, sean. i think in the last year we had stats according to the cdc 140 black people were killed by cops. 386 whites were killed by cops. so our cops killing white people or white people under siege, it's ridiculous. in any given year almost half of the homicides in this country, sean, come from black people. last year almost 7,000 mostly black people killed by other black people. why aren't we talking about that? it is rare when an unarmed person is killed by a cop irrespective of race especially when a black guy is killed. it's outrageous. we ought to talk about real problems facing the black community. and it has to do with babies having babies, a lot of kids being born outside of wedlock. there's a direct relationship between that and crime according to president obama we should be

talking about high school dropouts, we should be talking about poverty rates. there are much more important problems facing the black community than a rare instance when an unarmed black person is killed by a cop, sean. >> pick one city, niger, for example, chicago, and how much black-on-black crime has been there. there's been murder after murder after murder. nobody knows the names of the victims there. nobody knows these innocent lives that were taken. you know, human potential wasted. and you don't hear from the agitators or the activists in this case. and it's been going on now for years. why? >> and you know the amazing thing is is that, you know, words like genocide, black genocide are used often by these folks. i actually agree. there is a black genocide going on like in chicago, which is a killing fields. it's actually more dangerous for a young black man to walk the streets of chicago than it is kabul in afghanistan or iraq. you know, that is an absolute tragedy. but the black genocide is not

being perpetuated by white cops or nazis or skinheads. it is tragically being perpetuated by other young black men. and if your goal is to stop this crisis, and it is a crisis among young black men, being 40% of young black men are murdered. that's the number one cost of life is murder. >> that is just unacceptable. and it's something that as a society the values life, human life, we can't let go on any further. what about in both instances, hands up don't shoot, even as we were discussing the halls of congress. they have bought into a narrative, larry, that we now know based on black eyewitnesses is false. why does it keep getting repeated? >> because it advances their agenda. the democratic party, sean, cannot survive at the presidential level without getting that 95% monolithic black vote. how do you get that? do you get that by calling black

people victims and calling those guys over there, republicans, tea party people, black republicans, they're victimizers. by the way, we're the savior. so it advances their agenda. >> yeah. >> let me just add, we should also put a word in that cops are somewhat victimized in this phenomenon as well in that cops are often being used in cities like in the case of staten island where they're trying to police a silly law of selling loose cigarettes or even in ferguson, missouri. alvita king and i went there as part of restore the dream 2015, and we went there and met with the mayor and police chief and local officials. and they told us that there's a situation there where, you know, there are these nuisance crimes like having a sticker on your license plate, making sure you put it in the right place. and if you don't, you get a fine. if you don't pay that fine, you get another fine. before you know it there's a warrant for your arrest. before you know it you're in the criminal justice system. so we have to stop making

policeman tax collectors for the city government. >> guys, thank you both. go ahead, larry. last word. >> i was going to say that said there's a reason they do that. it's because the philosophy of the new york police department is to go after these quality of life crimes. it's called broken windows. if you want to change that, you need to go to the mayor. >> good point. it's idiocy to go after somebody on untaxed cigarettes. it's mind blowing. >> and the idea, sean, if you're a white cop you can't police a black area, that's ridiculous. that's racial profiling. >> and coming up next tonight right here on "hannity". >> how many people have to die before people understand this is not an illusion? >> nbc news host al sharpton, he's back at it. coming up next, the one and only anne coulter here to respond to sharpton's comments. and later tonight mayor rudy giuliani takes on bill de blasio, the mayor of new york. see how he schools the current

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is what the news host said. >> how many people have to die before people understand this is not an illusion. this is a reality that america has got to come to terms with. we are not advocating violence. we are asking that police violence stop. >> now meanwhile milwaukee county sheriff dave clarke thinks race relations in america have become strained only because of the obama administration's class warfare illusion. watch this. >> race is an explosive issue in this country. has been for a long time.

i don't know if it's going to get better, but it had -- it was improving. there's just no doubt about that. anybody that would deny that is not living in reality. but that wound has been opened again. and some of it is because of the divisive -- this war pitting men against women, the racial discord pitting whites against blacks, this class warfare, the 1% the rich tax the rich on and on pitting american against american. >> here with reaction is the one and only anne coulter. how are you? >> i'm great. >> i want to ask you because there are two ways to look at the eric garner case. you can look at it emotionally -- >> i'll tell you how to look at it. you are the only one that has been right about this. this is nonsense it has anything to do with race. this is a tax case. it's bloomberg insists on we're

going to deploy the police to collect taxes because they need to pay the pensions of their public sector buddies, bloomberg starts arresting all these people. and notice which case did the left, the msnbc, "new york times" obsess with, everyone who saw the tape of eric garner, oh, my gosh, they have five cops for untaxed cigarettes? but that's not the case the "new york times" is interested in. that's not the case msnbc's interested in. no, it's a guy in ferguson who's trying to kill a cop. i mean, the garner case is almost everything the left falsely said about mike brown. he really does seem to be a gentle giant. he had 31 arrests. they're all for selling untaxed cigarettes. notice the left wing you will never see fascism like a liberal trying to collect taxes. i'll give you another example. the ez pass records, isn't that something both everyone on the left and right said we like ez pass but we don't like cops using that. the aclu will go to court to

prevent records from being used in a rape case, a murder case, but you know what they're used for all the time? to collect taxes, to prove you were in new york more than you said you were in new york. there are a million cases like this. i can prove it's has nothing to do with race. it's usually indians the cops are roughing up for selling untaxed cigarettes. >> nine of the 31 arrests are for selling untaxed cigarettes. >> and if we knew -- if instead of selling untaxed cigarettes eric garner has been accused or guilty of assault, a rape, then you wouldn't say that was undue force. what is shocking about that videotape is, are you kidding me? this is for selling untaxed cigarettes? do not stand between a liberal and his taxes because that's how they pay for their beloved public sector unions and their ridiculous pensions. >> you see, six dollars a pack state and city taxes. >> oh, yeah.

>> they have created a black market. >> yeah. >> i don't blame people for going to north carolina. they don't want to give their money to the government. >> or the indian reservation. >> what people don't understand is they send cops into stores every single day in new york to see if they have the new york tax stamp. and if not they're giving them summons and arresting them. >> right. >> what a waste of police resources. >> this is the shocking part about this story. to say this wouldn't have happened if he was white, no, i will correct you because usually it's indians because they're allowed to sell untaxed cigarettes on reservations, but you have to make sure you're selling to only other indians. there have been cops roughing up indians in the past. i was looking up cases today. this is not something new. this is standing between a liberal and collecting taxes. and why wasn't the "new york times" and the msnbc going more on this case than on a really not very good case from the beginning with mike brown and ferguson. we saw the tape of him roughing

up the poor clerk from the moment anybody saw that. this is actually a lovely family. the stepfather was the molecular opposite of mike brown's stepfather. the stepfather in ferguson yelling burn this down immediately after the verdict to an angry crowd. by the way they then did burn it down. compared to the stepfather last night who was absolutely magnificent. what a lovely man. and he said i do not want to see any violence. that would not honor my son's -- my stepson's memory. >> i think we're going to hear you. >> why are we fixating on this? because of taxes. >> both sides of the tax issue here, people need to understand this, six dollars a pack. >> yeah. >> all right. somebody's addicted to cigarettes, it's expensive. it's now an expensive habit. >> yeah. why don't they just ban cigarettes? >> they created the market. now, on the other side of it they go after the store owners. they are not letting go of that money. so we have cops that should be chasing crack, heroin dealers,

gang members, murderers, rapists, they're spending their time because the revenue is so great as it relates for tax revenue -- >> that's right. ban taxes, no, they want the tax money. they have to fund the union pension. liberals don't mind if the police get a little rough. well, it's not like it was something minor like a rape or murder. this is someone not paying taxes. we'll use neutron bombs to collect taxes. >> it's unbelievable. i want to play charles barkley for you. >> i love him. >> he defends officers in an interview from yesterday. watch this. >> the notion that white cops are out there killing black people. that's ridiculous. that's just flat out ridiculous. and i challenge any black person to try to make that point. this notion that cops -- the cops are actually awesome. they're the only thing in the ghetto from between this place being the wild wild west. so this notion that cops are out

there just killing black men is ridiculous. and i hate that narrative coming out of this entire situation. >> right on. >> not only right on but this is -- it dovetails with my column this week titled "black people the media hate" and rand paul isn't wild about. when i wrote my book mugged about racial demagogue ri a lot of these famous cases that were allegedly racist cases, in almost every one of them you would find incredibly decent honorable and i would add brave black people testifying on behalf of the allegedly racist white person or various cops who ended up shooting a black kid. they testified, they told the truth. in the bernie case there was a woman with her husband and child on the subway cart and she testified before the jury, no, those punks were bothering the white man. those punks deserved what they got. bernie's lawyer did not try to

exclude blacks from the jury. they like blacks who have jobs and are married because who are the ones who are set upon by black criminals the most? people who live in black neighborhoods. these idiotic campaigns by people like rand paul thinking he's speaking bier saying, oh, we have to get rid of the drug laws, there are too many blacks and browns in prison. it's because of their skin color. no, who pushed for those drug laws? it was black people themselves. they're the ones whose neighborhoods were being destroyed by crack cocaine. >> anne coulter, good to see you. thanks for being with us. coming up next on a busy news night here on "hannity". >> we're not just dealing with a problem in 2014. we're not dealing with years of racism leading up to it or decades of racism. we are leading -- we are dealing with centuries of racism that have brought us to this day. >> new york city mayor comrade bill de blasio stokes racial tension in the wake of the new york grand jury decision about eric garner's death. wait until you hear what former

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>> we're not just dealing with a problem in 2014. we're not dealing with years of racism leading up to it or decades of racism. we are dealing with centuries of racism that have brought us to this day. that is how profound the crisis is. -- had to talk to dante for years about the dangers he may face, good young man law-abiding young man would never think to do anything wrong and yet because the history that still hangs over us, the dangers he may face, we've had to literally train him as families have all over this city for decades and how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him. >> former new york city mayor rudy giuliani took offense to those comments and slammed comrade de blasio earlier today on fox and friends. take a watch. >> this helps to create this atmosphere of protest and sometimes even violence.

first of all, there was no racism in this case. if he wants to train young black men on how to avoid being killed in the city. you can talk about police. police should never kill unjustifiably. i've put them in jail when that happens. but spend 95% of the time talking about how they're actually going to get killed, which is by another black to avoid that fact, to avoid that fact, i think, is racist. >> here with reaction to the mayor's war on words, former nypd detective bo deitl, president of the institute of the 21st century -- can you point to any specific evidence that racism is involved in either case? >> well, there's a pattern -- >> i asked is there any specific evidence. >> in many cases black communities are targeted. >> i didn't ask that.

this is important. de blasio said centuries of racism has brought us to think day. give me any evidence that there's any race involvement in either case. >> we don't know specific. but what we doe know in terms of criminal justice policy, established many studies that black men are more likely to get arrested than white men -- >> michael brown robbed a store, tried to grab a cop's gun and charged an officer. is that racist? >> we don't know it's racist, but we think it's unjustified. when black men are involved in episodes with police officers, it ends up tragically. we have situations where racial profiling -- >> -- >> we had a special the other day a young man stopped and frisked 100 times. how would you feel if you were stopped and frisked 100 times? >> let me tell you something this mayor is starting to tick me awful personally. there was a female black sergeant present during this takedown of this guy in the headlock. there was an op-ed page i wrote

in "new york post" two months ago. it's a headlock takedown. you bring him down, he's still breathing. a chokehold we used to have the night stick and they banned that -- >> he didn't even lock in his ar arms, which is a real chokehold. >> let his son go -- he's got more of a chance of getting killed than walking by cops. that's ridiculous. that's where the crime is. the crime is in our black neighborhoods. let's stop the crime there. what ticks me off is he's dividing us. and with all respect, what happens if that was a 6'5" white guy and he did the same thing, it would have been -- >> hang on a second. this is a good point he's making. why not focus -- where's the focus on all the people that were killed -- wait a minute, in chicago, in newark last weekend -- >> let me answer the question. >> thank you. >> if a black person kills

another black person, a lot of white people kill white people too. but black person kills a black person, you find evidence that person did it, they will be convicted. they will do the time. when a -- they don't do the time. >> is there any evidence of racism? i keep giving you an opportunity and you can't give me any. >> yes. >> give me any evidence. >> there's a book by -- >> please, doctor, tell me -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> where is the racism of that guy being locked up. >> let him answer. evidence. >> they were talking about this tax, this is a quality of life scenario, right? they're targeting largely black communities for these quality of life crimes. >> yes. >> he gets killed because he had a cigarette. had he not been in that community -- >> where's the racism? >> that is racism. >> oh, that's ridiculous. come on. >> blacks referring to law enforcement --

[ overlapping speakers ] >> anybody in new york selling untaxed cigarettes you have police officers going in every day, that is your mission to find them. >> if you gave me example, doctor, give me an example of a cop beating a guy into the ground, beating him or taking a gun out and shoot him, i'd say, yeah, that cop was wrong. this was a takedown. >> i got to go. >> this is so crazy how this is getting blown out of proportion. >> coming up next on "hannity". >> i thought we had done a pretty good job trying to keep them out with boarding up before everything was going to go down, but they got in anyways. it was just devastating to sit there and watch it happen. >> when we come back, a report you'll only see on this show. dozens of small businesses in ferguson, missouri completely destroyed during last week's protest. so where is the justice for those victims? and why the media silence? that report will shock owe coming up next. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ p...push it real good!

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