obfuscate when writing to "the factor." hard word to say. again, good word. ms. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin always stops here cause we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, a third straight night of national protests as pressure builds on president obama to do more about a supposed epidemic of racism in america's police departments. and wait until you hear what the congressional black caucus wants the president to do now. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. right now demonstrations in washington, miami and new york where the miracle on 34th street became the nightmare at macy's tonight as protesters disrupted christmas shopping at the flagship department store in midtown manhattan. watch this.

this is the latest thing. look. the protesters chanting "black lives matter" and "die in" and lying down in the aisles. shutting down one of new york's most popular landmarks at the height of the shopping season. at grand central station commuters had to deal with a holiday die-in as well in the middle of the iconic landmark. as these dramatic protests gained steam, the white house comes under new pressure. the congressional black caucus urging president obama now to make alleged police racism the central tenant of his state of the union address. and they're pushing the president to invite to that nationally televised address the families of michael brown, the 18-year-old killed in an encounter with a missouri police officer, and eric garner, the

man who died after a struggle with police in new york. chief white house correspondent ed henry is live tonight in washington. ed. >> reporter: megyn, officials here say certainly that could be part of the president's state of the union address given what's going on around the country, but it's not going to be the central focus. the president wants to talk about the economy, immigration. there's some history here because the congressional black caucus has been a thorn in the president's side pushing him to do more for example like african-american unemployment, consistently white house officials have said the president has to focus on the entire economy, the entire country. can't target individual sectors, individual races. president under pressure from the black caucus repeatedly throughout his six years in office and pressure today in the oval office when he met with king abdullah of jordan wanting to talk about security and isis and whether the president will do more than just name a task force on police reform. will there be real action. the president ignoring that shouted question. but they know inside the white house the president will be speaking out about this more in fact just in the last couple of

hours he taped an interview with b.e.t., black entertainment television, for show called "106 & park." and josh earnest, the white house spokesman, explained why the president did that. listen. >> -- an opportunity to reach an audience that obviously has been following these developments very closely and has pretty strong feelings about it. i think there are a lot of americans who feel strongly about some of these issues, but certainly we would anticipate that the viewers of "106 & park" would have some strong feelings. >> young kind of hip hop show, you wouldn't normally see the president doing an interview there. but they realize this is an audience they need to reach out to. and they also know when i talk to senior officials in the wlous as i did tonight, they've got to do more than talk, more than interviews and speeches. that there's an opportunity here for action because as you've been noting the last few nights there have been conservatives as well as liberals particularly in the staten island case that there are problems here and the white house sees an opportunity.

the president has talked about asking congress for tens of millions for body cameras for police all around the country. we're getting word we'll see attorney general eric holder announcing executive actions by the administration curtailing racial profiling by federal law enforcement, fbi and other agencies. that's something to look for as well, megyn. >> ed, thank you, as we look live at screen left bryant park in midtown manhattan. folks protesting on what's a crowded street right now with the protesters not far from the headquarters right here at fox news. we'll continue to watch this. joining us now, bret stevens, columnist for "the wall street journal." they believe this is a time for national conversation on race and racism in our police department based on what? >> i think this is a time for a national conversation about logic, megyn. we want to have a national conversation explaining the anecdote is not data.

ferguson is not staten island. narrative is not truth. and trying to jam the facts of these cases into these precast narratives about race does a disservice to the truth, it national discussssions on the racism of the police force here? >> well, if you're going to have a national conversation about race, i think you want one that is going to create consensus in this country. and michael brown rest his soul,

is a very poor poster child about the consensus of how we treat each other in this country. >> he wasn't posing a threat -- >> he was not posing an imminent threat. new york cops make -- we happened to see a horrific incident take place in front of our eyes. >> one quarter million of arrests and not one example. >> there is point when modern police forces set up in the early 19th century in britain. talked about the importance of community buy-in. that the police were an outgrowth of their community. and essentially they required the willing cooperation of the public. so there's no question that people like new york city police commissioner bill bratton's been doing this for a long time by the way, other police commissioners have to be sure they're having constant conversations with community leaders. that's a valuable -- >> they have been doing that here in new york.

by the way new york city's police force is majority minority. people looking at new york city cops saying these are a bunch of racist, well, it's majority people of color. i don't know who they're racist against. but they're painting with a very broad brush. i want to ask you about the president -- the pressure on the president to now make this the central theme of his state of the union address, the racism of our police force and the pressure to bring the families of michael brown and eric garner into the state of the union as well. i mean, michael brown's family? this is michael brown's stepfather who they were considering charging for this behavior in the wake of the grand jury decision in ferguson. here he is with michael brown's mother. burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! >> really? the father's been very measured. this is the stepfather.

and eric garner too is a convicted felon in and out of jail over the past ten years, 31 arrests. we're going to take their families into a state of the union and hold them up. >> right. and i think what the president could do and actually secure an important legacy in his last two years in office is to cool racial tempers rather than try to ignite them bringing michael brown's family, certainly if it's the stepfather into the state of the union sends precisely the wrong signal. again, what the president needs to do is explain that an early overwhelming majority number of cases -- >> he says that when he makes his remarks. or something like it in a throwaway. i mean, if you read the remarks, it's all about how, you know, blacks feel unrepresented, they feel like they have racist police, they feel the divide, we need a national task force to examine it, the police have been militarized and cops have the right to go home and die on the job. >> i think the worse that could happen is not to have police

forces that try to enforce the law in those communities, create a sense of order or a sense of civic justice. that's the real crime. ultimately the greatest pw perpetrators of crimes againstt african-americans are other >> given the misjudgments he's been having in the past couple years and the sense this is a

presidency -- >> wake of the garner grand j y jury. >> in the middle of all this new york's mayor has touched off a firestorm of what police are calling a slur against new york's finest. the former police commissioner here next. and fallout tonight after "rolling stone" magazine's story about a horrifying rape case at the university of virginia appears to be full of holes and

"rolling stone" has been forced to do an aboutface. we'll look at how this unfolded and who will pay the ultimate price when we come back. a bike i didn't think i'd have a heart attack. but i did. i'm mike, and i'm very much alive. now my doctor recommends a bayer aspirin regimen to help prevent another heart attack. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.

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because of that history that still hangs over us, the dangers he may face, we've had to literally train him as families have all over this city for decades in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him. >> that was new york city mayor bill de blasio earlier this week suggesting that his biracial son needs to be wary of police officers here in new york. critics say that sends entirely the wrong message as cops all across the country are dealing with another night of protests stemming from officer-involved shootings -- well, one shooting and one death in new york and ferguson, missouri. one new york columnist going so far as to accuse mayor de blasio of throwing gas on the fire. writing "this is a profound moment in modern gotham history. one i'm convinced will set the city on a downhill course." that's michael goodwin.

former new york city police commissioner did a lot to improve relations between the police force and the city. thank you for being here. that same message blacks need to be more careful when it comes to the cops because they're more likely to get targeted. they need to be extra courteous because cops are more likely to think they're doing something wrong. and that needs to stop. your thoughts. >> i think the mayor's comments are very inappropriate. a mayor is supposed to bring people together. and i think what mayor de blasio did was make polarizing comments indicting an entire police force. and it couldn't be more wrong. the nypd is one of the most restrained police forces in the country. civilian complaints are down. officer-involved shootings are down. when you talk about diversity, the probability that you're going to be arrested by a new york city police officer, you're going to be arrested by a person of color. all of this is just throwing flames on a fire. and it's just inappropriate.

>> the implication is, and i believe our next guest is going to argue that, these cops -- one thing in the academy but when they get out on the beat they are told, there's an understanding whether they're black or white, you see a black guy, you need to worry. you see a white guy, you worry but you worry less. >> i find that preposterous. i went to dozens and dozens of town hall meetings and church meetings and i very rarely heard complaints about racism. most complaints i heard we wanted more police officers to protect us in our community. 90% of the victims of homicides in new york city are people of color. and the vast majority of perpetrators are also people of color. so this whole thing about racism is something that the left is perpetrating and it's just not true. >> they also in particular in the case of eric garner believe the reason that man was left to lie there for as long as he was

after, you know, the arm was around the neck and he was saying i can't breathe, i can't breathe, and not attended to, was his humanity was forgotten. and the reason that happened is because it was a black man whose life was worth less in the eyes of these police officers. >> i think that's ridiculous. police officers are there to protect people. now, whether or not there was appropriate policy followed in the garner case is going to be determined by the nypd internal investigation. but i don't believe for one minute that any of those police officers intended for eric garner to die. >> mr. commissioner, thank you for being here. >> great to be with you. >> joining me now with more, eric adams, borough president. the implication is these cops walk the beat and they among themselves behind closed doors there's an understanding that they're going to worry more,

target more african-americans than they are whites. >> well, i think that's not, based on my opinion is based on my 22 years of police service. and based on what the numbers show when it comes down to stop and frisk, marijuana arrests although whites use marijuana the same level of blacks, it's a disproportionate number of who's arrested for it. so the methodologies used in law enforcement, across the country, not only in new york, is really based on a different implementation. >> do you contend that the police would not have confronted eric garner down in staten island if he had been a white man? because what they say is they were getting calls from the business owners down there, most of whom were african-americans, saying this guy's driving away customers. he's been a repeat problem. please get rid of him. >> and it's commendable for the police to have responded to a call of service. and we need to be clear on

what's the underlying conversation. i want what i'm saying to be removed from those who are protesting, those who are angry. i want us to have a very rational and practical approach to this. what i am saying, a well-trained police departments across the country are applying their skills differently based on the community they're in. so i do want my police officer to come and tell a person you can't sell loose cigarettes. that person should not be placed in a chokehold and left on the ground to die. >> that speaks to an argument about excessive force, which is quite obviously an appropriate discussion to be having based on what we've seen over the past month. and you can argue it whichever way you want to argue it, right? but when people take it to a racism place saying what we're suffering from here, what we're seeing here is just the tail end or the next chapter in centuries of racism. how do we get to that place in ?

>> because we cannot ignore that race plays a role in how we police in america. >> how in garner's case, how? >> let me tell you how in garner's case. take the same set of circumstances, a person receiving a call for service because something is selling loose cigarettes. if it happens on wall street, the police officer's going to approach that person, de-escalate the situation, have an opportunity to apprehend them without harming the police or garner. >> is that a socioeconomic argument or a race argument? you're telling me they get a call of an investment banker, go down to wall street, it's a black man in a nice suit selling loose cigarettes they're going to treat him differently than a white investment banker? >> that's exactly what i'm telling you. i'm telling you the tolerance level and the skill set level are different based on the ethnicity and the -- that's based on my 22 years of observation. i've been at this for over 32

years and it's clear we police people differently in america based on their economics and ethnicity. >> i'm just looking for the evidence in this particular case. if eric garner were a 300-plus-pound white man resisting arrestst, there is a real question about whether your contention the police would have treated him differently. >> first of all there would have been a conversation. >> there was a conversation. he told them to get off of him and then he resisted arrest. >> you talk about resisting arrest. there's a passive way to resist arrest and a way to harm someone. >> i got to go. i appreciate you for being here. we'll go to washington where the protesters are now marching on the capital. plus, "rolling stone" in a lot of trouble. she's still the one for you. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex.

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protests continuing across the nation. protesting the death of african-american men at the hands of police officers, they say. jonathan hunt is live in the middle of it all. jonathan. >> reporter: megyn, we're at 32nd and broadway midtown manhattan right now. we've been marching with these protesters, a group of i would say around 3 or 400 for some four hours or so now. they have been circling manhattan. this has been an entirely peaceful protest tonight. nonviolent. it has been deeply disruptive as it has been over the last couple of days. let me talk to one of the people walking here and find out what their aims are. what do you hope to achieve from all this, sir? >> i want racist cops to stop taking advantage of the people in this city. >> the justice system has gone through due process with the grand jury. why do you think there is a problem with the justice system? >> some presidents do not indict

somebody for something like that. you can indict a ham sandwich. >> reporter: do you think you would change anything here? >> absolutely. >> reporter: all right. megyn, that's the kind of sentiments we've heard throughout the night here, throughout the last three nights indeed. now they have halted as they tend to do periodically. it stops traffic, it causes some disruption. the nypd has been magnificent in these marches the last few nights. there have been very few confrontations between the police and protesters. and in a lot of occasions these protesters are even stopping at crosswalks waiting for the light to be in their favor, megyn. this is a very different kind of protest and series of protests than we saw in ferguson. these people are passionate. they are angry. but these protests have remained

almost entirely peaceful. >> jonathan, have they sd to you why this is racist? >> reporter: megyn, i'm not sure if you're still talking to us. i've lost my connection with you. but just to tell you as i was saying this has been going on for some four hours now this particular protest. several hundred on the streets here. we did at one point this evening go into macy's, the biggest department store in the world. a die-in was staged there. again, no violence whatsoever. peaceful protest. megyn. >> thank you. of course the audience heard me, i was trying to ask why they think the police are racist. here in new york city like i say it's a minority majority police force. and the city has been taking a very hard look over the past couple of years at any incidence of racism, police excessive behavior. bill bratton came in and said he was going to do a full house cleaning on that to try to ferret out any bad apples but stood by his police force saying

the vast majority are good men and women who are there to serve and protect. courtesy, professionalism, respect is the mantra that our former guest put in place. and most of these police live it every day. and yet you've got the mayor calling these police officers racist. and clearly these people believe it's so. we will also go live to washington in a bit where protesters are marching live on the capital. and we switch gears as the major backlash today over one "rolling stone" require's article on an alleged rape at a very prominent u.s. university. we'll look at how this one person's allegations got so big and were accepted by so many without so much as a question next. (vo) nourished. rescued. protected.

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chatting with my next guest. you're going to hear from him in a moment too. we've got breaking developments tonight after rolling stone magazine publishes a bombshell piece on an alleged gang rape at the university of virginia. the campus erupted in protest as what was described as a rape culture and all the fraternities and sororities were suspended. soon thereafter some started to question the horrifying claims at the center of the article. and while the author and the magazine's editors initially stood by their story citing the courage of the young woman who came forward with her tale, they are singing a very different tune tonight. trace gallagher has more from our west coast newsroom. trace. >> megyn, keep in mind the article led to a police investigation, as you said, the suspension of all fraternities and a vow to greatly increase the policing of any future parties on campus.

now every key detail has been disputed or debunked. a freshman named jackie on september 28, 2012, was allegedly gang raped at a fraternity party by seven men pledging for phi kappa psi. but there was no party and that they don't have pledges in the fall. and "the washington post" reports the men jackie claims took her to the party and orchestrated the rape wasn't a member of phi kappa psi. and while he knows her he has never taken her anywhere. she never contacted the alleged attackers because jackie asked her not to. as of yesterday rolling stone was fine with that saying it found jackie's story entirely credible and courageous. now the magazine is backpeddling saying, "there now appear to be discrepancies in jackie's account, and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced.

we regret not contacting the alleged assaulters to get their accounts." even friends of jackies who fight to raise awareness, told the writer there were seven. the university of virginia says it still plans to deal with sexual assault on campus saying "we will continue to take a hard look at our practices, policies and procedures and continue to dedicate ourselves to becoming a model institution." and it should be noted that jackie never filed a criminal complaint in this case. megyn. >> trace, thank you. joining me for more rich lowry, fox news contributor who also happens to be a university of virginia alum. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> so you and i used to talk during the duke fake rape case. at the time people believed it was real. now we know it was a complete farce made up by a very deranged person against three frat

brothers. when that case started i remember the talk was these fraternity guys, you know, they did it. they gang raped her just as she said. you know how they are privileged athletes, elite university, they did it. and a map named brit hume sent me to durham with an open mind and report the facts as you found them. i found a lot of facts and none was helpful to the accuser's story. i went on the air and started to report details, details that were potentially exonerating for the defense. people started to come out and say she's biased. she's biased against the black victim. she's biased against a rape victim. she's anti-rape victims and pro white defendants. this is a sampling of what i reported at the time. >> from 12:05 to 12:15 on the night in question, nine phone calls, nine. that is the time period based on the accuser's allegation so far. we believe -- what's happening?

this is the first time we have heard there was semen inside of this accuser and belonged to someone other than the men from at that house. someone other than a duke lacrosse player. she was only given 60 seconds to pick somebody out. they had the photo up for 43 seconds. when time was running out she said that looks like him, sort of, i'm 90% sure. that's the problem is looked at this case by assuming guilt and trying to find a way to prove it. and then he was blind to the evidence that showed him exactly the opposite was true. and now we know that was a made up story. i'm not saying this case here is made up, but once again a reporter at a minimum appears to have gotten far out ahead of her skis. >> yeah. there was a willing suspension of disbelief here on the part of the writer, editors and a lot of feminists who want to have an ideology that you can never question an alleged victim. and two, believe this is what

fraternities are fundamentally. they're criminal organization with these horrible sociopath i mosjanis -- >> you are not allowed to stand up for the accused. if you do, the women who want to believe women who are making rape claims immediately look at you as a rape sympathizer, a bizarre defender of an evil rapist rather than an open minded person who just wants to explore what the real facts are. >> right. it's perfectly possible to believe two things at once. most women are telling the truth when they say they've been raped. >> they are. the stats show it. >> but not all of them are. >> right. >> so that's why you have to have a critical mind about it. that's why also importantly women who have been raped have to go to the police. if this happened and she didn't

go to the police, she was letting these guys go free to do it again. >> she wasn't even willing to tell people the name of the man she was accusing. this happened a couple years ago. wasn't even willing to tell her friends and others the name of the man that accusing up until recently. and then once that name came out all of these discrepancies started to surface. there was no party on the night she claims she was attacked at the party. there were no pledges at uva during the fall semester. that's not allowed on campus. this man she accused was not a lifeguard. there are no phi psi fraternity. she was brought down a staircase when exited from the party. there is no side staircase. >> this all gets to the point rolling stone says, well, the alleged victim didn't want us to contact the accused. so maybe you share that deference to her, but what's the excuse for checking out no details whatsoever? >> you don't show that deference

to her. no you don't. you're investigating a story. you take the side -- you take the testimonial of one side. what reporter agrees to that? to not go check out the facts with the accused in a case where young men being accused of a gang rape? you say, i'm sorry, but that's a deal breaker, ma'am. >> something this explosive you have to know it's true. i blame rolling stone obviously, but i also blame the university of virginia. the way they respond today this in a complete defensive crouch, the uva president suspending all the fraternities. the faculty of uva who are politically correct sheep buying this story hook, line and sinker is just pathetic. can't you have a little bit of faith in your own institution? apparently not. >> we saw this in duke when this woman came forward, made these accusations. you had a lunatic d.a. who has since then been disbarred. notwithstanding the forensic evidence and others and shut down the entire lacrosse program. meanwhile these guys had done

nothing wrong. they hadn't laid a finger on this person. and their careers could have been ruined. they could have gone to prison if we hadn't stayed on the story and others stayed on the story and unearthed some of the exonerating details. >> just think of this in terms of common sense. you have seven alleged attackers with two alleged supervisors. that's nine guys at this fraternity. and there was a suggestion it was an initiation right. so you had many, many others participating in gang rapes. are you really going to have dozens and dozens of guy who is have no conscientious whatsoever who don't whisper a word to anyone engaging in this conspiracy -- >> it's not that it could never happen because sadly it's been documented that events like that have happened at universities. and certainly rape has happened at many universities including the uva. but the question is you have to investigate both sides. you cannot just take an accuser's word as gospel. the way the piece was written as

though it were fact. in fact there's very infrequent use of she alleges, according to jackie, it's offered as though it's been ascertained and confirmed. and the reader walks away thinking uva's got a huge problem on its hands. >> just a tiny tell for me in this story as well, there's a reference in it to the throngs of tanned, toned, overwhelmingly blond -- that's not the uva i know. maybe that's university of stockholm. but it all went to the point that this is the -- of white male privilege and there were rapists rape at will and go free. >> the reporter was searching university to university for one she was going to target for a rape victim to come forward. and she settled on uva query whether the tanned tone thing was part of it. >> i was tanned and tone. >> and still are. that's obvious.

the audience was just thinking that. >> have a good night. clearly some of uva's alumni community were skeptical of the story from day one. but not so for some major media outlets. rolling stone wasn't the only one to jump on this. the pile-on we saw almost as soon as the story came out. why was that? and as we watch a new series of protests unfolding across the country, christmas shopping is getting dramatic in new york city where this scene played out inside macy's tonight. ♪ come in and use your starbucks gift card any day through january 5th for a chance to win starbucks for life.

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a major american university tonight has a lot to answer for now that claims of a particularly shocking sexual assault have been made public. >> an extraordinary move on one of america's most prestigious campus campuses, the university of virginia shutting down all fraternities as it investigates sexual assault claims. >> we move to the crisis on campus. sexual assault allegation at one of america's most prominent colleges. >> shocking allegations of sexual assault. they were exposed in a rolling stone article. >> those are just some of the network tv headlines when rolling stone magazine published a bombshell piece on an alleged rape, gang rape, at the university of virginia.

as we learned today even rolling stone now has serious doubts about its own reporting, seems like an apt time to look at how this story got where it is. host of media buzz on sundays, howie, good to see you tonight. how did we get to this point where rolling stone, a single source, publishes this lengthy piece and you've got the mainstream media jumping all over it? >> megyn, i've done a lot of investigative reporting and this story never should have been published. you cannot go with sensational charges like these based on a single source without corroborating evidence, without identifying anyone. now, without making some contact with the men being accused of this heinous crime. now, the university of virginia's reaction, i think, in a way gave these other national outlets some license to run with this. >> yeah. >> they used words like alleged and claims, but we live in a world where there's very little re-reporting because everything goes viral in ten seconds and it's on the web and tv jumps on

it. "the washington post" to its credit did poke major holes in it this week but everybody else kind of repeated it. >> they did. it got started by a blogger, a blogger who said i smell a rat, i don't believe some of the details. and somebody needs to probe further. >> and that's a perfect example of the world of new media in which we live. this guy, richard bradley, former editor of george magazine, the old jfk jr. magazine, he'd already been burned by a serial fabricator named steven glass. and on this little known blog he wrote not based on any investigative reporting but his own analysis that it didn't smell right, there were holes in the story. and that i think spurred other organizations, "the washington post," people like me, to take a second look at just what rolling stone had reported. >> that's right. and to slate's credit because that is left, obviously, far left website. and this would be sort of the typical case where they would say we want to believe the woman, the woman must be right. but they did some digging and they interviewed the author of

the piece and unearthed some of the problems that the author was guilty of in writing the piece. what do you think of what i said with rich, which is as somebody who was reporting early on about the problems in the duke rape case, that fake rape case, there was no rape, i was a very young reporter at the time and i remember being very jarred by people calling me a racist, people saying i must like rape, i'm not on the right side. and they try to brush you off. if you raise doubts about an accuser's story, do you think that played a role here? >> it was fascinating to watch your reporting on that duke lacrosse case which of course turned out to be so bogus. even when i wrote about this a couple days ago i had to hesitate saying i'm not saying nothing happened here, we don't know, but there are a lot of holes, a lot of discrepancies, a lot of apparent mistakes. and, yes, sexual assault is a very big problem on campus. and one of the tragedies of this rolling stone fiasco that it is hard to take on and there is

this sort of backlash that you experience at your risk about why are you even raising questions about this. investigative reporting sometimes you fall in love with your source and you fall in love with your story and you want it to be true because it's a pretty big scoop if it's true. and that's where editors come in and say you haven't got it, go back and do more reporting. >> at the universities these claims of rape, it's not all about the young woman making the claim but the young men whose lives -- did she have any problem this woman that she would not contact the alleged rapers in order to get this story? >> the reporter getting conflicting stories on that but absolutely no business making that claim because then you are tying your hands as a reporter. maybe it was consensual. you have to try your hardest to get to the other side particularly because you're dragging their reputations, potentially, through the mud. that was one of many failures here on the part of rolling stone. >> we haven't heard the last of

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then headed towards the white house. a good chance the obamas will not get a restful night tonight. off the sidewalks into the streets a lot of people were not stepping off the sidewalks and into the streets. so the last we saw i would estimate maybe 150 people about the same as it started out with. so not a real rousing corporation of people trying to join the march. very, very peaceful. no fist-to-cuffs. the most dramatic thing we saw was people blocking the movement of a couple of fire trucks and an ambulance. so if their intention was to save lives, this protest, they might have endangered their prospects by doing precisely the opposite of that. but very, very peaceful here. no problems that we've seen. megyn, back to you. >> doug, thank you. it's very peaceful when they're just lying there. nice and peaceful. actually a lot of people like checking their iphone, getting

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