tv Hannity FOX News December 5, 2014 7:00pm-8:01pm PST
7:00 pm
department. we had to do our own hair down there. you can see i dyed it brown and cut it off. then i went a different direction. i looked a lot more well-rested then, didn't i? hope you are too. see you monday. welcome to "hannity." tonight they are the forgotten victims of ferguson, missouri. small business owners whose stores were looted, some burnt to the ground by protesters in the wake of the michael brown grand jury decision. but on "hannity" we are making their voices heard tonight. >> i had surveillance running on my computer and saw the whole thing. >> it's hard for us to get back to where we were before. >> we cannot use anything here.
7:01 pm
>> could have died. >> dozens of small businesses were left completely destroyed after protesters became violent in the wake of the ferguson grand jury decision. now, keep in mind some of these small business owners just finished rebuilding from the demonstrations back in august when the michael brown shooting first occurred. now, they're victims of ferguson too, unfortunately we're the only show bringing attention to their stories. so tonight we have brought some of them here to new york to be with us in studio. welcome all of you. thank you all for being here. and i know i speak for a lot of people, the country watched in horror what was happening. we were live on the air as some of this was going on. and it was not a pleasant thing to see. i want to start with first of a all, are there people to blame here? how many of you feel some of the people outside that came to ferguson, how many blame them for part of what happened? just a show of hand.
7:02 pm
how many don't blame them? >> if they were from outside or neighborhood, but the greatest blame, i think, should go to the governor for the last incident where he really let us down. >> can you imagine -- how many blame the governor as he called up the national guard and didn't send them in, yeah. >> no question. not only did he not send in the national guard or protect these people, but these businesses were told repeatedly by not only the governor but by the justice department and others that there was a plan and that they would be protected. don't stay behind and protect your stores. we're not going to let what happened the first time happen to you again. and frankly when everything started, then the 911 calls started going, there wasn't a soul down -- >> by where the businesses -- >> right. i'll start with this controversy, there's a controversy starting with michael brown's step dad. you remember the night, i think he was standing on top of a car,
7:03 pm
david. he said burn this b down. here's what he said. >> burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! >> he has since apologized, but this led up to what happened. how many of you think that he should be arrested? show of hands. >> well, i think he could be responsible for exciting those people. that's what happened. he said burn down and that's what happened burnt almost 20 businesses in that neighborhood. >> from a law enforcement point of view you're trying to protect the city, somebody says something like that, is that inciting a riot? >> i really feel as though he should be arrested for his actions. and from that arson occurred also talking about the fact we knew leading up there could have
7:04 pm
been problems. that national guard could have been kept a half-mile away. that was handled horribly. and i like to find out the influence of attorney general holder with that governor if that was not spoke about because of the violence back when it first occurred back in the summer. so obviously they knew there could be violence again. and these poor people that own these stores, they're the victims. and i think that the government should pay them because the government knew -- >> it's amazing they called up the guard. they didn't send in the guard the night when these business owners needed it the most. darryl, you represent the michael brown family. i know that he apologized, but that doesn't take back what he said and what the ensuing results were, does it? >> well, a big point here though, there's been nothing to show that when he made that statement that anything happened as a result of the statement. although he made the statement, he apologized -- >> is it such a leap -- >> for it to be criminal and to be responsible there must be a
7:05 pm
nexus between what he said and action that happened later. >> a viewer on the ground reporting for the show, you were there for a long time. your thoughts. >> well, i'll go back for a moment to the prosecutor's decision to use the night to release the verdict. tactically that was a horrendous mistake. they need to look at why that decision was made. it hampered the policemen's ability to see the lines. yes, inciting is a crime and michael brown's stepfather should be prosecuted. it spreads like a wave when he starts doing that. and what happened that night once that combined with the gunshots combined with the surge of outside agitators and unfortunately mostly people from the st. louis area who were arrested that night, 60 or so of them were all from the st. louis and ferguson area. these were the people that damaged these businesses, that ran past me, past the police
7:06 pm
station and began to break out windows for half a mile all the way down to the walgreens. >> i was looking at the liquor store being looted while we were on air. later we got the ferguson market. and we got the video of what happened inside of there. let me ask about outsiders that have come in. reverend al sharpton, he's commented on it. jesse jackson has commented on it. and louis farrakhan. let me get your feedback on what you think how they might have impacted what happened here. >> if you're angry, throw your arms up if you want justice, throw your arms up. if you want answers, throw your arms up. because that's the sign michael was using in order to establish peace you must have fair justice for everyone. we want real peace. we don't want to just be told to shut up and suffer in silence. we don't fight until we get tired.
7:07 pm
we fight until we win. the federal government must step in. >> as long as they kill us and go to wendy's and have a burger and go to sleep, they're going to keep killing us. but when we die and they die, then soon we going to sit at a table and talk about we're tired. we want some of this earth because we'll tear this [ bleep ] country up. >> -- three and a half months this was no jury of integrity, no jury of substance -- it's not right. we all deserve better. >> show of hands, how many think this had a detrimental effect on
7:08 pm
ferguson? i know jesse jackson's kmencomm were after. most of you. >> here's what happened. all these victims that are sitting here in this audience have any of you been contacted by al sharpton, by farrakhan, by anyone who came down and did this -- >> have any of you? >> have any of you been asked? they're there to shout, to stoke the fires. they didn't go back to ferguson after the aftermath. they're not there when the police go back to eight-hour shifts when jeanice is looking at her burned out building, where mohamed and i are walking through the store where he has broken glass, water dripping from the ceiling, you can smell the smoke for a couple hours i could smell it in my nose or the ferguson market where a young pregnant woman is trying to pick up the pieces of her life. and their employees don't know how they're paying their bills.
7:09 pm
these guys stoked the fires, literally, that lead to fires. and then they walk away. >> darryl, you wanted to weigh in. >> for sure. without question no one wanted the violence and the destruction to the businesses that have happened here. now, you have to understand when you talk about civil rights and change, especially in communities that are primarily african-american, almost all of that type of change and the history of our country has always been for people who weren't from that community. this community could have made a decision to change a long time ago, but its leaders never did anything to change the situation that existed in that community. so people have to come in -- let me tell you, i work in a lot of different communities every day i don't live in to bring change. when you do that you have to go in and push the system to be just a little bit better. >> let me go -- steven, you own a store. what happened to your store? we're going to get to everybody's story as we go on. >> first of all, i'd like to back up a little bit about when you asked about the comment
7:10 pm
about the rioting and burning up. me personally i think it's a sign of code in the african-american community. >> a code, did you say? >> i believe. meaning that lots of people are afraid to speak out thinking that if they speak out that it will come back on them. me personally i think it was outrageous. it took everything -- my building was not burned down, but it hurt my business all the way down to zero. me personally i don't care if it was michael brown's stepfather or whoever it was, it was wrong. and, i mean, i understand we react out of anger, hurt, but when you verbally pronounce something like that, you're going to make people act out. because it was already out there on edge waiting for someone to just give them an inch to go out
7:11 pm
and break out. so me personally i really don't care who it is. it hurt all of our lives. and it's painful. it's christmas time and i don't know how to tell my daughter your dad may not be able to get you anything because my business has suffered. so with the politicians coming in, i respect that. but first of all, where were you at before it happened? >> that's what i call them. >> so i have a problem with that. i mean, if you want change, start to change in advance. don't wait until a problem come and then voice your opinion. >> we're going to hear all of your stories. and we have video that will accompany that. and this is an important point because you talk about christmas and presents and your daughter. and that may not happen this year. this is the untold story. and we're going to get back. we'll pick up on that point when we get back. also coming up we're getting things started. coming up tonight here on "hannity". >> this is the place where your mother and your grandmother
7:12 pm
came. and i was just shocked that it happened because i haven't been this this store for three years. i can't recall a dvd being stolen from me. >> we sent david webb along with a team of producer back to ferguson, missouri to see firsthand how destroyed some of these small businesses were. up next, the woman you just heard from going to share her story as we continue this audience edition of "hannity." introducing new dulcogas, which starts working to eliminate gas bubbles in minutes for effective relief. dulcogas, from the makers of dulcolax- nothing relieves gas faster. dulcogas, from the makers of dulcolax- dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you. thank you for being my hero and my dad.
7:13 pm
7:14 pm
audience edition of "hannity." in the wake of the chaos in ferguson last week we sent our producers along with david webb to survey the destruction and in particular the damage done to dozens of small businesses in the city of ferguson. take a look. >> it was announced all over the world that the seasons was
7:15 pm
burning down. and the seasons never burned down. actually was hidden treasures that burned. and everything that i had was lost. if i would have been here in my building, i actually could have died because there's no back entrance to my door. and they looted it and burned it from the front. >> going forward, what does this mean for you and your family? >> it means that right now we're seeking sources to keep our dream alive because my things were taken, but i still have the desire to have my business. i had established customers and they tell me i'll be back. calm down, i'll be back. >> where were you when this happened? and did you prepare at all? >> you know, i was home watching everything. i have the camera system in my home. i see people broke the glass on the front. they broke everything and cans make the biggest fire.
7:16 pm
and i would have my car here, the van car, they burn everything under to make the car fire. we lose a lot of money now because we drop everything. we drop food, we drop all -- in the trash. >> those two store owners are in our audience tonight. and that is hidden treasures owner janice andrews and new york grill owner sami salton. i'm very sorry to both of you for what happened. how long did you try and build this business up? >> i was just going on a three-year mark. >> yeah. i'm not trying to be nosey. don't feel like you have to answer any of these questions. you've been through enough. but how much do you think you've invested in your business? >> i sacrificed two and a half year's income, our savings and our son's support -- >> and sweat and blood and labor. >> right. >> equity.
7:17 pm
>> shopping for merchandise, one-of-a-kind things in my store. i put so much energy into it i didn't tend to things i should have for myself or home just to make my business home because i loved it. it was my passion. after being a homemaker for 25 years, my husband got me the business as a gift. and my sons, we all work together on it. >> what are your plans? where do you go from here? >> i just have faith in order to go on and move forward i have to be positive. i just have to work on keeping my dream alive because if i stay back there what happened to me i found it was pulling me down real quick putting me in a negative place. >> i know a lot of people, and we'll talk to them, are not going to rebuild their business. but you're planning on rebuilding. >> yes. >> i'm not trying to be nosey again. are you going to get insurance money, will that cover it, do you have to invest a lot more money? obviously you're going to lose all the sales over the period of time. you'll never be compensated for
7:18 pm
that. >> right. >> but you have faith enough in the community that you would rebuild? >> i have faith enough in the community that i would never -- i learn my mistakes. i will never invest the way i did again. i'm looking for resources and support to be able to give back to my community in that way. because i was giving of myself and i still will give myself. but i no longer have the financial means to do it. >> you don't know if you can build your business back up? >> i don't know if i can build it up to where it was. >> by the way, you're making every one of us guys look bad. oh, honey, i'll buy you a store. no problem. you're killing us. every guy here has to go home and explain why they're not going to open a store. >> it took everything that i had. everything that i had. >> to help your wife's dream come true. >> yes. now we have nothing. >> how do you feel about rebuilding? >> it's bittersweet.
7:19 pm
>> yeah. >> i really want to help do this all over again, but we really need some funds. we need some resources. >> and the government, on the night you needed government in your life, the guard was called up, nowhere to be found. the mayor couldn't even find the governor that night. shocking. unbelievable. >> not at all. >> tell us about your business? >> it's a family business. we start open this business like ten months ago. and we've been lot of money. >> how much? >> i don't know exactly but it was over a hundred -- >> over $100,000. >> just -- >> flat equity. >> yeah. money for the business after we open. you know, something for to open the business back, we need a lot of money too. and insurance not cover everything. >> it's not going to cover. do you think -- do you have confidence in rebuilding?
7:20 pm
i mean, do you feel you don't have enough faith in the community? >> i'd be honest with you. this is my home -- i have to. >> it's sad. everybody has dreams and it's really hard. >> i grieve for these business people and the businesses they lost. but i don't think the damage ends in ferguson. i hear people with second thoughts about whether they're going to return or rebuild, i think there are ceos around the country thinking they're not going back to ferguson. they may think do we want to open businesses in black neighborhoods or minority communities. this second guessing you're probably not going to hear about in public, but this is my guess. this isn't good for black communities anywhere coast-to-coast. >> jason. >> to piggy back on that, the reason why is because it's going to be more expensive to do business in these communities, higher prices for goods and services. the law-abiding residents of these communities are also the
7:21 pm
ones who get hurt. they'll have to travel further to get low priced goods and services. they'll be less competition in the neighborhood. so, yes, the victimization does not end with the business owners. >> yeah. it's really sad. all right. we're going to come back. and i hope you guys do get the help you need. you seem like you're getting upset. you're emotional about this. why? because it's your whole life, do you feel it's been -- >> yeah, my family work hard to save money to open business. we work for six years now to open business. and now just for one day everything's gone. i have to save money to open business again. >> you got to start over. you saved for 16 years to open that business. >> no, for six years. >> for six years to open that business. >> yeah, i have big family. now this is the only way we make the money. and after all this i have to save money to open back. insurance i would lose all the
7:22 pm
customers. >> build it up again from fresh. >> yeah. new inventory, everything drop in the trash. >> the car was underneath the building and set the car on fire which set the building on fire? >> yes. call the police and not on service for this time. i call the fire department. and i think come after ten minutes to make the fire stop. >> we're going to take -- >> they came at 2:00 a.m. in the morning. about, well, four hours after it all started. again, nobody in this community, i think, blames the fire department. that's not their job to take bullets. the problem was there was nobody there to help the fire department do what they needed to do and put the fires out. >> i blame -- do you know i put it squarely on the governor's back for not deploying those guards as he should have. and all of these businesses should be up and running today. i don't think -- one thing though. i don't think government knows what it takes.
7:23 pm
you spent a lifetime of savings to help your wife achieve her dream. six years you and a large family collectively i assume worked to save to open your business. that doesn't compensate you for the money and time you've lost. it's all sad. we have a lot more to get to. coming up tonight next here on "hannity". >> what did you feel when you saw that playing out, when you saw looters in your business? you put a lot of work into it. >> i think my first reaction or thought was probably, oh, no, not again. >> all right. that store owner you heard from is sitting right there in our audience tonight. stay with us as this special edition of "hannity," the victims of ferguson continues. ss bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement account. before he opened his first hot chocolate stand calling winter an "underserved season". and before he quit his friend's leaf-raking business for "not offering a 401k."
7:24 pm
larry knew the importance of preparing for retirement. that's why when the time came he counted on merrill edge to streamline his investing and help him plan for the road ahead. that's the power of streamlined connections. that's merrill edge and bank of america. what if one push up couldcoli cprevent heart disease?cancer? one. wishful thinking, right? but there is one step you can take to help prevent another serious disease-
7:25 pm
pneumococcal pneumonia. one dose of the prevnar 13 ® vaccine can help protect you ... from pneumococcal pneumonia, an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain, difficulty breathing, and may even put you in the hospital. prevnar 13 is used in adults 50 and older to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13 if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients. if you have a weakened immune system, you may have a lower response to the vaccine. common side effects were pain, redness, or swelling at the injection site. limited arm movement, fatigue, head ache muscle or joint pain, less appetite, chills, or rash. even if you've already been vaccinated with another pneumonia vaccine, prevnar 13 ® may help provide additional protection. get this one done. ask your healthcare professional about prevnar 13 ® today. the damage that happened here, is this a total loss for
7:26 pm
you? >> yes. total loss. 100% total loss because we cannot use anything here inside the store. i don't know we can rebuild again. >> how did you feel while this was happening? >> i feel everything is wrong. that's wrong. everything what's happened is wrong. let's destroy inside the community. we have a lot of people work here, old people buy meat from us -- >> where were you? were you here? were you prepared and boarded up? >> we had taken a couple precautions before. so we had some boards up on the inside and also on the outside. and then i closed down at 7:00 because we knew that it was going to come out around 8:00 p.m. so, yeah, i went home and just kind of watched the news. and i had the surveillance running on my computer and saw
7:27 pm
the whole thing while it was going on. i thought we had done a pretty good job of trying to keep them out, boarding up before, they were going to go down but they got in anyways. it was just devastating to sit there and watch it happen. >> that was more of the damage done in ferguson and the destruction left by hundreds of protesters, looters, those arsonists out there. now, the victims you just heard from in that clip are also in our audience tonight. mohamed jakub and the delwood market owners where here mohamed, start with you. tell us about your business. how did you get start sed? >> you know, we've been serving the community a very good business. we have a lot of thing in the business, meat -- >> it's a meat market. a butcher shop. >> butcher shop.
7:28 pm
yeah. we have everything. >> and it was looted first in august. >> looted twice in august. >> let's go back to august when it first happened. how much did that cost you and your family? >> a lot. the first time looted it's like a lot for cleaning and inventory and a lot of stuff stolen from the store. >> if you had to put a dollar figure on it, can you? >> more than $150. >> more than $150. was it covered by insurance? >> you know, it's not covered by insurance. >> not. >> all of them. we have a limit. we have to go through a lot of -- >> high deductible. >> exactly. >> people forget that. though it's insured -- >> no, it's not covered. they don't give you the money the way you even if you have an inventory and whatever you show they don't give you anything. you feel like when you lose it. >> how much do you think you lost in this second time?
7:29 pm
>> you know, i don't know exactly because -- first time when we got looted we just borrow money from everyone we get a lot of stuff to open -- >> nearly burnt to the ground. >> the second time they took a lot and coming back and looted again. >> but they also nearly burned your place to the ground. >> yeah, burn to the ground, yea. >> so i guess the question is, are you going to stay? what do you do? what do you say to the people that may be some of the agitators that did this to you? listen, i was a contractor and i worked for restaurants for years in my life. and the blood, the toil, the sweat, the tears, to quote a great guy by the name of winston churchill, it's enormous. i don't think most people know what goes into building a business. it's hard. it's a full-time job. >> it's really, really hard. >> are you angry? >> too much.
7:30 pm
we don't know what we need to do exactly. you know, i don't know if we need to come back or not. we don't know what's happened. you don't know anything. you don't know what you want to do. we're talking we coming back to ferguson -- >> that's your store now that we're showing. >> yes. that's our store. >> hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage. >> exactly. more than hundred -- >> if you borrowed from the last time -- >> no, no, no. that's very hard. very hard. you need to replace everything inside. >> unbelievable. >> money just to come back to business. >> you won't be back. >> i hope so just for you to come. >> we have yen and your dad, you've been on the program with us. we watched -- we have video of the delwood market. tell us about what happened first in august and what happened here. we're showing the video that's your store. >> yeah, this is from the previous time back in august.
7:31 pm
it was pretty much the same thing, but we were lucky back in august because they were actually trying to burn it down back then. luckily it wasn't successful. but this time, like i said, like i talked to you earlier, it was the thought and feeling of, oh, no, not again. i don't think unless you've been in a situation like this people don't realize how much hard work it is to run a business and then on top of that have somebody try to ruin your business completely. and you've got to walk around there for four, five, six, seven, eight days just to clean up. >> and you're not making money. you still have rent or mortgage to pay. >> loss of revenue. >> loss of revenue. >> even my employees, i feel so bad for my employees as well because -- >> they're out of work. >> i got people working for me with kids that work like two jobs, 18, 20-hour days just trying to make it.
7:32 pm
and like i also said earlier, i mean, the gas company do not care about if they're out of work. they still have to get paid. >> how many years were you in the business? >> i started almost 25 years. i want to go back to the comment from al sharpton. >> are you going to bring this -- are you going to rebuild? >> well, last time i interviewed my son is i'm getting old -- >> he wouldn't have known that -- >> i'm saying it's probably not worth it. when you come to a certain time in your life, and i can only say this because that's how i think. >> you're saying i'm not old like my dad. when you're digging a hole you want to start putting dirt back >> if you rebuild it will be you. but how much money do you have to raise? >> like, i mean, i think i speak
7:33 pm
on everybody's behalf here today and everybody else that got hurt in ferguson. i think we all need some kind of fund raising because the insurance like you said is not going to cover anything. it's going to cover most of it but you have the deductible -- from august we just got back to the normal payoff after two months. so from losing about $100,000 in august each time, then you got to put the loss of revenue -- >> unless you're the federal government then you just print more money. and rob more kids' piggy banks. that's a different story. these are all sad stories. i want to point out for our audience here, these are minority-owned businesses for the most part. hiring minorities in the community, right? all of you? >> yeah. >> yeah. we're going to come back. and coming up next on this special edition tonight of "hannity". >> someone kept them away when they should have been deployed. there should have been 50
7:34 pm
guardsmen and women armed standing in front of those stores. >> that was the missouri lieutenant governor peter kinder slamming the democratic governor nixon for his failure to protect the city of ferguson. we're going to play you his strong words coming up next. that and much more with the city's forgotten victims as we continue straight ahead. [ male announcer ] are your joints ready for action? osteo bi-flex® with joint shield™ nurtures and helps defend your joints° so you can keep doing what you love. what'd you guys do today? the usual! the usual! [ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex, ready for action.
7:35 pm
[ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex, you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? hey insurance companies, news flash. nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. you never dwell on how you don't it was made...ut it... it's just a blanket after all... but when everything else has been lost,
7:36 pm
the comfort it provides is immeasurable. the america red cross brings hope and help to people in need every 8 minutes, every day. so this season give something that means something. support us at redcross.org ...and tkind of like you huffing sometimes, grandpa. well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said.. doctor: symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis >> test >> test >> test >> test >> test >> test >> test >> testç >> test >> test >> test >> test >> symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. you should tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or
7:37 pm
high blood pressure before taking it. grandfather: symbicort could mean a day with better breathing. watch out, piggies! child giggles doctor: symbicort. breathe better starting within 5 minutes. call or go online to learn more about a free prescription offer. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help.
7:38 pm
no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours.
7:39 pm
if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. live from america's news headquarters i'm robert gray. well, protests are continuing around the country over a new york grand jury's decision not to indict a white officer in the chokehold death of an unarmed black man. thousands marching in manhattan chanting, black lives matter. a so-called die-in on the floor of macy's. eric garner had been selling illegal cigarettes. he died after an officer placed him in what appeared to be an illegal chokehold. orion, nasa's latest space
7:40 pm
vehicle, completing its first test flight. 600 miles out from earth for a hyperfast round-trip voyage. a new era of human space exploration, the ultimate goal, a voyage to mars. the first orion crew flight is at least seven years away. i'm robert gray. now back to "hannity." welcome back to this special edition of "hannity." now, victims of ferguson following the widespread looting and arson that destroyed many of my audience members' businesses, while the missouri governor jay nixon received very sharp criticism for how he handled the protest following the grand jury and even missouri's own lieutenant governor peter kinder had tough words for him. >> the governor mobilized the national guard, declared a state of emergency a week before. and then at the hour of critical need he has the guard miles away and not deployed in ferguson in front of those businesses where
7:41 pm
if there had been guardsmen standing there, those businesses would not be burned. someone kept them away when they should have been deployed, there should have been 50 guardsmen and women armed standing in front of those stores. >> we bring back our studio audience. mike, your store in many ways was kind of ground zero. it was your store that was robbed by michael brown, right? >> yes. >> and dorian johnson. it was your brother? >> yes. i was pushed against -- >> kind of bullied. pretty intimidating moment from my perspective. the brazenness, the boldness was stunning. then we have video of your store, this is where they looted your store. and then if it wasn't for a woman one guy was spraying an accelerant all over and trying to build a big fire, right? >> yes. >> i'm told they have now identified this individual, is that true? >> that's true. >> that's true, right. i would like to see this guy who
7:42 pm
tried to burn your store down. what is your reaction to all of this? do we know who this woman is that uses milk and tries -- and puts out that fire for you? >> i'm grateful to her because if she did not pour milk, our store is ground zero. >> who is that woman? >> i don't know. but my employee does know her. >> he does know her. did she go in there for the specific reason to help the store? >> look like she's very nice. she help like she -- >> because that saved your store. how much in damage did you have here? >> like stolen items over $100,000. >> did you and your brother know michael brown? when he came into the store and stole those cigarellos, did you know him? was he a regular customer? >> no, no, my brother saw him second time. >> have you ever been robbed that way before? >> never. >> have you been robbed often or was that a rare occurrence? >> never happened.
7:43 pm
>> never been robbed before. yeah. what do you think when you see people going into your store and taking stuff out of there? >> this is very, very sad and very bad. it's like -- own community because we work very hard for that. >> how much money do you think you lost? >> we lost a lot of money because i had loan over a million dollars. >> are you going to rebuild? >> i have to rebuild otherwise -- >> that's your business. >> they take my house because i put in house to take a loan for building. >> it's going to be very hard. thank you for being here. how old are you? >> 23. >> you're a young kid. sometimes we hear all these horrible stories about people and then you have the stories like the woman putting out the fire. you have been organizing other young people in ferguson. tell us what you're doing. >> well, what i'm doing, i'm simply going out and picking up trash. you know, picking up, you know, the debris that the looters, you
7:44 pm
know, left behind. i want people to know and see, you know, there's still people that care about ferguson. my heart goes out, you know, to each and every one of you all as far as you all's business and everything. i pray that you all come back because i'm quite sure before, you know, the looting and before the rioting, you know, that you all was very successful. so i go out there and i organize ne these groups to clean up, to let you know, i care. i care about you all's business. i care about, you know, you all's livelihood. that's one of the main reasons why i go out there and clean up around in ferguson and florissant. >> we saw this with 9/11, this evil, then you see such brave
7:45 pm
goodness of other people, firemen running up into a building they know they may never come out of. >> right. >> businesses that opened up and were feeding firemen for free in new york after 9/11. this young man's out there with his friends and trying to help. >> i commend people like that because there are people doing right things. the looting and rioting, that's not going to make change. if you want to make a change, go to law school, become a police officer, become a part of congress. and i don't want to hear the excuse, well, they're not going to give us a job. i became a lawyer, self-made. so there's no excuse. >> people give me a hard time. i say there's a lesson to be learned in ferguson. don't rob a store, don't intimidate a clerk, don't fight a cop for his gun, don't charge him to quote one of the eyewitnesses like a football player with your head down. i say that to darryl, he gets very mad at me. but isn't that a lesson? >> that's a big lesson. my husband is an
7:46 pm
african-american police officer. and he said if he was in that position, he would protect himself. police officers are trained to stop a threat. and if that man came to him in a threatening way and the officer had no choice but to shoot, that's what he had to do. we weren't there, but the witnesses who saw all the evidence in the grand jury proceedings obviously they felt there was not enough probable cause. >> can the victims of ferguson take legal action for failing to protect their businesses? we're going to attack that question as this special edition of "hannity" continues straight ahead. (vo) nourished.
7:47 pm
7:48 pm
you can't breathe through your nose, suddenly, you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. cold medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip and pow, it opens your nose up to 38% more. so you can breathe and do the one thing you want to do, sleep. add breathe right to your cold medicine shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. and look for the calming scent of new breathe right lavender, in the sleep aisle.
7:51 pm
can they take any legal action against the state and local government for failing to protect their business? now, there is a precedent, jay, you are the attorney for several store owners. >> well, i think you have to step back just a second on that first go-round of riots in august when captain johnson and i went down there. and captain johnson flat told us we are not doing anything to stop what's going on.
7:52 pm
7:53 pm
around, see the lack of national guard, lack of troops. >> essence of the case was, though, withholding or restraining of law enforcement from preventing and arresting rioters and looters. sonny you've been on the show. i'm like wait a minute, i know that store. because you had been on as a guest before. how is your business now? what are you going to do? >> we're recovering. i've been in business 18 years. ill not stay there 18 years if there is no reason for it this, is an inclusive community who really took me in. >> how much did you loose? >> $25,000. >> this time? >> this time. >> what did you lose last time? >> about 20. >> well, insurance only going to cover so much, we had the bigger devastation was not just the
7:54 pm
fact we were looted the bigger devastation that the streets were closed for a week after. that you couldn't get into to recover. >> leading up to it, every store covered with plywood. >> after dark there is nobody on the street. they close at 5:00. >> david, you get the last word. >> we have to deal with the human factor in the aftermath. these are people and stores, sean, i'm glad you decided to tell them. what we have to remember is that in order for them to do this, others around the country have to get involved in their communities this, is not all of ferguson. these are looters and rioters they need to be prosecuted. justice. >> we need people like terrence stepping up, and helping out the community. great job. >> we're going to take a break. we'll close things up with our studio audience right after the break. ♪ music
7:56 pm
7:57 pm
i found a better deal on prescriptions. we found lower co-pays... ...and a free wellness visit. new plan...same doctor. i'm happy. it's medicare open enrollment. have you compared plans yet? it's easy at medicare.gov. or you can call 1-800-medicare. medicare open enrollment. you'll never know unless you go. i did it. you can too. ♪ twhat do i do?. you need to catch the 4:10 huh? the equipment tracking system will get you to the loading dock. ♪ there should be a truck leaving now. i got it. now jump off the bridge. what? in 3...2...1... are you kidding me? go. right on time.
7:58 pm
right now, over 20,000 trains are running reliably. we call that predictable. thrillingly predictable. hard it can be...how ...to breathe with copd? it can feel like this. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled... ...copd maintenance treatment... ...that helps open my airways for a full 24 hours. you know, spiriva helps me breathe easier. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells,... you can get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine. other side effects include dry mouth and constipation. nothing can reverse copd. spiriva helps me breathe better. sfx: blowing sound.
7:59 pm
does breathing with copd... ...weigh you down? don't wait ask your doctor about spiriva handihaler. heyou can get greatds honey! discounts on 1-800-flowers.com...oh... roadside assistance from allstate, and avis, budget and budget truck. all in one place... aarpdiscounts.com. popcorn? find offers from regal cinemas, walgreens... and kellogg's...they're great! and on exciting entertainment! c'mon guys, the millers just got their cards, too! check out the possibilities. aarpdiscounts.com. that is all the time we have
8:00 pm
left this evening. thank you for being with us we wish our guests the best. sad what happened to the people of ferguson. hope you have a great night, a great weekend. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: [chanting] i can't breathe. i can't breathe. >> exactly who is organizing the racial protests across the country. they are coordinated and we have a factor investigation. >> african-american men are still more likely to be stopped and searched by police, charged with crimes and sentenced long-to-longer prison terms. >> but mrs. clinton doesn't say why that's happening. and she surely knows. we'll take a hard look at it >> do you think it's a racial issue? >> i really doubt it. it was about the officer's pride. >> also tonight, the daughter of the late eric garner speaks about the very
173 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
Fox News WestUploaded by TV Archive on
![](http://athena.archive.org/0.gif?kind=track_js&track_js_case=control&cache_bust=285985194)