see you again monday night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. stay with fox news on the latest for the protests across new york. good night from washington. see you monday. tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye" a fearless goat protesting a soccer game on behalf of everyone who thinks it is the world's most boring sport. what is he planning next? we caught up with the fearless beast for comment. plus, is the president less than thrilled about tonight's guest host? how does america feel about that? >> i know that you will enjoy hearing her more than me. that's what happens. >> and finally, a squirrel trapped inside a coffee mug with time running out. our cameras were there when no one else was as squirrel authorities tried a desperate rescue attempt.

none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> i am joanne nosuchunsky filling in for greg gutfeld. yes, i know it is already a thousand times better looking with me hosting. now let's welcome our guests. she is sweeter than the sweet part of the sweet tart. i am here with imus in the morning producer. and he is the person who has been more helpful to me since anyone -- i did not read this ahead of time. scrai that was so nice -- >> that was so nice of you, joanne. >> tv's andy levey. he is sillier than silly string, john devore. and just left of center, tucker carlson, co anchor and editor-in-chief of "the daily caller." >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> should "rolling stone" have known? last month the magazine published the story of a woman who said she was brutally gang

raped as part of an initiation at a university of virginia fraternity party. some are questioning the horrific details of jackie's story and the school success spended all fraternity activity. on friday a "washington post" story noted that some of the facts were inaccurate. for instance, the frat didn't have a party on the night in question and that, quote, a group of jackie's close friends who are sex assault advocates at uva say they believe something traumatic happened to jackie, but have come to doubt her account. and "rolling stone" put out a reader's thought saying -- note saying there appears to be discrepancies and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced. tucker, what do you make of this? how qoo something like this happen? >> a bunch of things happened. she lied. it is a hoax. it didn't happen. that was obvious to anyone who read five paragraphs of the piece. i am a magazine editor, so it was really obvious to me.

her editor should have flagged it immediately. the author never called anybody at the fraternity or smoke -- or spoke to anyone at the fraternity. if she had she would find out they don't have pledges in there. et cetera, et cetera, it didn't happen. by the way, it sounds like from the reporting we did atç the daily caller this woman is apparently dilutional and the school has been in talks with her for a long -- bottom line. this was a combination of political correctness and bad editing that hurt a lot of people at the school. they need to apologize. the university of virginia needs to apologize to the fraternity members whose character they impugned and the sorority members because they shutdown the sororities for reasons that are still unclear. >> carly, who do you think is more at fault here? jackie foretelling her story which -- for telling her story which tucker thinks is false. or maybe there is truth and

the magazine should have done more digging? >> definitely the magazine should have absolutely done more digging. you can't tell one side of the story. you have to get both. the people who really lose here are other victims of sexual violence. whether the story is true or not, a shadow of doubt has been cast on this story which could make it harder for other people to come out with theirs. sometimes there is a credibility issue with people who come out saying they were raped. especially in high-profile cases. this makes it harder for women to come out after something like this happens. >> i definitely agree. john, do you think that maybe the reporter had an agenda and just wanted to follow through with it regardless of what jackie was actually saying? >> i think in this instant sometimes you believe what you want to believe. that's why fact checking is so important. that's why the basic tenants of journalism are important. "rolling stone" sounds like it found a story that it wanted to pursue and it was going to

get that story no matter what the facts were. that's the only way i can see why they did not get the story better. >> why are we protecting this woman? why is the "washington post" -- they did the interest view and they know her name. they are not giving her name. why is that? even if the story was true, why is it that news organizations decide it take sides in sex crimes and no other crimes? if i allege financial crime from you. you stole money from me. your name gets reported and my name is reported. >> it is difficult because she did say she didn't want them to ask these men -- she didn't want to give names because then she was afraid of the ramifications. >> she should shut this place down. >> this is a story of media and how as creators of media we are increasingly trying to create our own counter narrative. is this woman a liar? is she dilutional? >> why are we protecting her in the press? the people she is accused of a crime they apparently didn't commit and why are we

protecting her? >> her and anybody. if you allege a felony, it goes to the courts. we have a justice system. wn. enter the process and you need to be able to face your accuser. >> this kind of crime, if i was the victim of a felony like someone stole something from me, my name is public, i am not going to get harassment. >> any kind of assault. you get to wreck may life by accusing me of something, but i get to hide behind anonymity? >> is this a teachable moment? can we learn something from this in the future? >> absolutely not. she could have made the entire story up. some of us here have experience with that type of thing. it is also very possible that something horrific did happen to her that night. it is not uncommon for trauma victim memories to be wrong. tucker, i would hold off on

calling her -- flat out calling her a liar. >> i know a lot about the story and i will not hold off. she made this up. >> i would hold off on calling her a liar for now. regardless of anything, rolling stone gets an f here. they get an absolute f. a lot of people kept saying you shouldn't have to get the other side. you can think there is one side to a story, but you still have to fact check it. a bunch of people were called truthers and compared to holocaust deniers for raising question with the "rolling stone" article. it is an f for "rolling stone" and journalists who were quickly and right away agreed or took everything in the article to be true without bothering to check on it. >> all of the assumptions were. the idea that everyone who alleges a sex crime is telling the truth is false. people lie about all kinds of things. >> and this doesn't help any future case. >> isn't the story completely

compromised now because of the fact that "rolling stone" didn't do its reporting? can we really know the truth? >> she named the guy that she said raped her, one of the seven. it one point it was five and now it is seven. they ran him down and it was not him. there is no way it could have been him. she made it up. maybe she didn't mean to do. it but people have been hurt as a result. so why are we pretending like she is a victim. there are real victims. >> should we release it with ven genesee? >> anyone who alleges a felony against smunls has to expose themselves publicly. that's the nature of justice. you don't hide behind the screen before you wreck someone's life. >> i try no to expose myself publicly because it is a felony. moving on. with isis she would play fiesest. hillary clinton said america should empathize and show respect for enemies. the former secretary of state and likely 2016 presidential

candidate made the case for finessing our foes during a speech on wednesday at georgetown university. >> this is what we call smart power, using every possible tool and partner to advance peace and security leaving no one on the sidelines and showing respect for one's enemies and trying to understand and in so far as psychologically possible empathize with their perspective and point of view. >> you know who will never show respect for one another? these enemies. >> tuck inert green room. you said you agree with her 100%. it shocked me, but please explain. >> i don't take her seriously

enough. i think in a vacuum what she said is not entirely insane. if you were threatened by someone you should take the time to understand where those people are coming from and the strategics should matter. try and figure out why people are -- isis. why are they doing this? it would be helpful to know. she is repeating stuff she heard at davos. it is cliche after cliche. >> it is the timing though of the speech and these comments, inappropriate considering the airstrikes that are going on. >> a thousand percent. and this -- americans feel less safe now ever since 9/11 and the potential future leaders of the country to describe how we can react to isis, this is just stupid. i don't even know if she believes we have to empathize with our enemies. it is something she may have said to sound nice and polite. it was a talking point.

but it just goes to show that the democratic party has -- their first kneejerk reaction is to hug it out when isis is beheading americans left and right. that's not how you react to something like this. >> is it because she is a woman? >> that she is making complete sense to me? that's exactly right. >> are you looking more and more attractive. >> thank you very much. >> tucker and i will agree on this. you want to empathize with your enemy and understand them. you can only know their weaknesses if you can use your imagination to try and see the the -- even if it is a twisted world view. >> is it possible you can't understand some people because you can't reason with them and they have no reasoning? >> i don't believe in that nature of evil. i think evil -- even isis, they think that they are doing the right thing. they have these objectives that are twisted. it helps to try to understand. >> you can't understand.

>> you have to try. it is like, you know, it is like nobody thinks they are evil. >> that sort of evil you have to say, listen, flat out, this is something that i can not understand. i am not even going to wrap my head around it. >> even hitler didn't wake up and go, i'm evil. >> you object whysly haven't had any nasty ex-boyfriends, okay? andy, go ahead and defend your hero, hillary. >> i am shocked john devore sat here and defended him. >> i didn't defend him. >> you are looking less and less attractive as the conversation goes on. >> i hope that gets a lot of coverage. i want to see that everywhere on the internet and i want to see it on twitter. john devore defends hitler. i agree with the part of john that didn't defend hitler. there are different ways of empathizing. most agree that understanding your enemy is the key to defeating them and empathy is the key to understanding.

i also don't think empathizing equates with weakness. you can empathize with someone and realize you have to defeat them. if i may quote from a hero he said in the moment when i truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, in that moment i also love him. i think it is impossible to really understand somebody and what they want and what they believe and not love them in the way they love themselves. and then in that moment when i love them, i destroy them. >> that's burnt. >> we will be right back. >> moving on. there is nothing anyone else can say. >> notre dame knows who is to blame. yes, the university offers a one credit course next spring called white privilege seminar. the six-week class is, quote, designed to educate and train participants of the -- on the definitions of historical/ current paradigm of white privilege. sounds like a blast. one campus activist thinks it

is a total joke. he told the daily caller, quote, this isn't education. it is indock -- indoctrination. it does not exist because that idea does not sit with the social and racial agenda of the professor. we asked a student to comment. >> you are not supposed to pour like that. are you supposed to tilt the glass. come on. >> andy, if you have a right private course wouldn't it be a privileged? >> there is a reason you stumbled over that intro.

tess people can't write. >> they are very wordy. >> they can't write. they throw down jargon and it takes the place of grammar. that's a side point. i have no problem with the private university having a six-week one credit course on white privilege. i wouldn't sign up for it because i would sprain my eyes from rolling them so much. and i am someone who believes white privilege is a very real thing. do what you want. as long as it is not mandatory, i don't care. >> you love going to white privilege conferences wearing a kill whitey t-shirt. do you think you will be going and selling the t-shirts? >> i would like to go back and i would like to state for the record, i don't support hitler. >> at least he made it clear. >> is this a good idea for the school? >> andy is absolutely right. they have a choice. i think indoctrine nation --

they are not being forced to go and take this class. maybe there should be a counter class that refutes white privilege. >> and talking about affirmative action. >> maybe it is how colleges should have more points of view. >> it is dumb though. that's my problem with it. higher education america is one of the few things america makes. it is all of the chinese and south koreans. they take all of the money to come and get degrees in the united states. they think our universities are serious. the truth is they are basically in the middle of a bubble. they are not serious. when the world figures that out -- >> the only people who will go into the seminar are sociology majors. >> college itself is kind of dumb. >> it is just one credit. let's be honest. if it was three maybe we can, you know --

>> i agree with andy. you don't have to take this class. it is offered. if you don't like the idea, take another class, but, you know, i do see though that it is very one sided. >> but wouldn't this be a good place to find a boyfriend or a date? >> any place is a good place to find a boyfriend or a date. is that awkward? >> sweating, self-hating white people. >> i can smell the, i don't know, privilege. i do like that. there is usually money there too. tucker, the woman teaching this course -- >> they are against privilege. that's the mistaking part. >> they are privileged. >> i thought they were teaching you how to have white privilege. >> the woman teaching the course helped to organize a protest against anne coulter's speaking event saying it was a

racial hate speech. >> people who disagree with me shouldn't be allowed to speak. when did i become the liberal. i remember as a kid i made fun of 70s liberals. they were used for things like, i don't know, civil liberties, free speech. you know, i feel like, boy, what happened to that? those are my liberals. >> i agree with you. we cover it all the time. there are way too many instances trying to get people thrown off for saying the right thing. when they protested they said they weren't trying to get the school to cancel. if you want to protest, that's fine. >> of course i am all for protesting and speaking out. when you hear the term hate speech, that is not an invitation to debate ideas. it is telling you to shut up. they make the point you shouldn't be allowed. >> except they specifically said we are not asking for her to be turned down.

>> here is what she said that we disagree with. >> they have to be smart. >> they are dumb. that's my point. how distressing. >> it is like a social media. colleges and magazines. we both want to reinforce our world views. we don't ask questions and we don't doubt ourselves. >> i don't mind courses like this, but you have to do them at freshmen orientation when kids are not really paying attention. >> or when they are drunk. they get a little bit, absorb a little bit and take it with them. coming up, now that i am in the anchor chair, we are renaming it the hotseat. first, how bad was last night's "peter pan live"? not as bad as our live reenact meant will be after the break.

did pan and tink leave a stink? millions watched "peter pan live" and it was down 50% compared to last year's sound of music live. in the third hour more people tune need a repeat of "the big bang theory" than the production. here is one of my favorite moments from "peter pan live." ♪ >> that was the wrong tape. can we see some real musical theater? >> that is more like it.

and here is peter pan flying with the help of a wire. >> so how did children in the audience respond to the show? >> clab your hands. clap them louder. yes, yes, do you hear that tink? can you hear the children everywhere laughing, cheering, clapping? >> yeah, they loved it. those expressions. tucker, you have about 17 children. did you wiewch the movie with them? >> not only did i not watch, but it was much of a ballyhoo at my house. it was cool that they did it live. apparently it was a complete disaster and cringe worthy, but i like that. >> you like when people crash and burn? >> yeah, it is not boring. and it is pretty ballsy to do a live show.

jay for three hours, my gosh. >> we do it every night. >> i heard you say in the green room and i quote, this was the worst production i have ever seen. i lost hours of my life. i will never get them back. shame on you, nbc. >> and then i said i loved it. and now why? what was so magical about this? >> musical theater is a great american art form. secondly i loved that it was live. i loved the falling props. i loved chris watkins forgetting his lines. nbc should do nothing but live programming. i thought it was the best. >> do you agree? >> i liked it. but i liked it for a different reason. i thought it was good. i think i am the first person i have heard say this today because everybody is talking about how bad it was. i thought allison williams had an amazing voice. i didn't know she could sing. the acting was spot on. and the sets were great.

then i came to work and everybody hated it. i could not believe that. but nbc knew that and was expecting it. they expected to get ratings off of this because people they expected to hate watch it which means you have to tune in because you expect it to suck so bad you don't want to miss it. i totally disagree. i thought it was really good. >> and i think they screwed themselves because they addressed the whole hate watching and hate tweeting thing. >> everybody was making fun of it. >> i think what they did was they shamed people into not doing that. >> by addressing it it took the fun out of it. >> now they want us to do it. "sound of music live" was the first time it had been done on tv in a longtime. and watching carrie underwood is a much bigger star. >> and she's hot. >> over allison williams.

i watched like five or ten minutes during half time of the football game. unfortunately christopher watkins was in none of that. it seems bad to me. >> he was great. >> christopher watkins played a great christopher watkins in costumes. >> i was watching football. i can't stress that enough. >> a man's man. >> as the expert on the panel i have a few things to say. i enjoy the movie "peter pan" but not so much the book musical. i love musical theater and i love that we are bringing it to homes for people who may not be able to go to broadway and regional theaters. bring the family together. that's really nice. however, i may pick something a little more exciting. i tweeted this last night "west side story." today's times may not be good for that.

>> john devore had a good suggestion. sweeney todd. >> "fiddler on the roof" with christopher wakins. >> he was a weak link yesterday which was so surprising. >> it is so good. >> i mean, yes, i did truly enjoy it. i loved that they used the cast of "newsies" all of the boys who were doing the caning. dancing. i did see a lot of casts. some of the lost boys, it wasn't as diverse was a comment. i saw one minority in there. >> is that really a criticism? >> you can criticize anything. you are trying to look for whatever criticism you can. >> why do people take criticisms like that seriously? >> i don't know. everyone is a critic. we all need approval. i know i do. >> if they do fiddler on the

roof it would be amazing casting. and i would watch that. >> you wonder what is more important? is casting talent more important or stars for rating. >> stars for rating. >> carrie underwood looked like she was going to pee her pants for the first two hours. >> she may have. the dresses are big. >> they are making a movie on obama's first date with the first lady. i guess i shouldn't addition for that one. >> tonight's sponsor is a cultural reference alerter. it sends a shock down your spine when one of your friends eludes to a tv show or movie you haven't seen. it does president -- doesn't matter if you haven't seen a show again. it

this is a fox news alert from los angeles. i am robert gray. the sister of american hostage luke summers saying he was killed during a failed rescue attempt in yemen. lucy summers telling the associated press she learned her 33-year-old brother's death from fbi agents. he was abducted in september. earlier this week the pentagon confirmed it lost an earlier attempt to rescue him, but that it failed. news of summers' death follows reports of a suspected it u.s.

drone spriek in yemen which a local security official said killed nine alleged al-qaeda fighters. we don't know if the two incidents are related. now back to "red eye" already in progress. >> because in fourth grade my nickname was puddin. it was longer for my nickname, butterscotch puddin. >> i was sad and my mom would make me go to school in the dark orange sweat suit she found at the thrift store. this is true. >> i knew man beasts in fourth grade. none of them would have flirted with puddin. >> and they made fun of pudding. >> you weren't even worthy of the man beasts. >> man beasts were here, but puddin was here. >> do you think more adults should get back at their childhood bullies ? >> every adult remembers the

childhood bully. this guy who is a jerk at 8 though is still a jerk today though. he said in his letter back to this woman and i won't call her a man beast, he said, listen, i'm sorry i bullied you eight years ago. the only reason i asked you out to dinner was to apologize. that is such a lie. >> he didn't say that. >> yes he did. he wrote her a letter back and she posted it on facebook. >> he said he asked her out as a friend. >> to apologize. i feel like you don't ask somebody out to dinner to apologize. that's a coffee thing. you have other intentions. >> tucker, did she go too far by doing this or not far enough? >> i am all for revenge. i am all for getting back at bullies. she doesn't look that different. she didn't look that bad when she was little. i'm serious. she didn't look like a man beast.

>> how many have you seen? >> not many. grade 8 suggests she is a foreigner. that makes it more confusing. you feel her life has been controlled by this all these years and that's sad. the goal is to let go and yeah people will be mean to you along the way. >> living well is the best revenge. >> that's true. >> that's why i don't need to get back at any of my bullies. >> there is something sad about it if you are dwelling on it. >> i don't think she is dwelling on it. >> see me, puddin is on fox. >> let's get back to andy. she was not always the famous tv's andy levey. do you ever want to get back at the people who made fun of what you used to look like? >> i don't like to show this because i don't do personal stuff. i think we have a picture of me from 10 years ago. >> hideous. >> is that a spot perm? >> my nickname was woman

beast. first of all i will throw out the possible belt tay this is fake. possibility that this is fake. >> is this a hoax? >> i love this. >> but good for her, i guess. maybe it would have been better when he asked her out to then see what his reaction would be in person and it would have been better to see his jaw drop. i think the guy wrote a nice apology note. it seemed to make her happy to get the note so good for her. >> he is a liar. >> i don't like how she responded to show you are truly over something, it is indifference. indifference shows that. she is showing a lot of passion in this. i wouldn't even want to give him the time of day sort of thing. i would be like here is $30 have your meal alone.

that's all have i to say. and then love man beast. maybe a little dig. >> by the way, did she leave him $30? >> no, she just stood him up. >> that's what i would have done if i was louisa. >> he would say, i got a free meal. >> moving on. >> the story of barry and michelle obama's first date is head together big screen. south side with you hillary count -- will recount on chicago's south side where the future firs couple went to an art institute. they took a long walk and then caught a showing of do the right thing. >> spoiler alert. >> the church is on for the young barak. in our mind there is only one actor capable of pulling off this important historical role. jonathon taylor thomas.

carly, who do you want to see play barack obama? >> the best impression is on that show kmpl? have you seen it? jonathon is spot on. you have to watch it. i would choose him. >> it has to be someone who has amazing chemistry, right? they are so romantic and so much in love today. >> kmpl. >> she just has a speech impediment. >> are you going see this movie? >> of course i will see this pouf vee. i can't wait for this movie and the sequel. >> will you see it in 3-d? >> i want them to be played by the stop action puppets. >> why? >> will that add something that is lacking?

maybe a soundtrack. is it too little to be making movies about this? shouldn't way wait until h is -- we wait until he is out of office? >> is the government paying for this? >> probably. >> i think it is. i think all of the actors work at hhs. >> do you think obama will have a hand in casting? jay it is not a movie. it is for educational purposes. you can't really understand his vision unless it is presented in a feature film. >> andy, are you going to hit on the movie because it is stealing the spotlight from your favorite hero edward snowden's future movie? >> nobody is going to see this movie. first of all, the whole first-aid story i am pretty sure is a. hoax -- is a hoax. >> what do you mean? >> it is a little too perfect. >> it is a little boring.

>> they meet at a bar? >> i sort of agree. i want this to be a musical. i think it should be a singing extravaganza. the quote from the guy's making the movie -- >> next year's nbc production. stephanie and i are excited to produce this smart and time less film that sheds light on one of the great love stories of our times. >> she always seems mad at everybody. >> this is a cult, a film cult. >> it is not a cult. i think it is cute. dear leader. >> i wonder if people will go on first dates to this movie and then in the future movies about their first dates they will have to include this movie about a first date. this is awful. time to take a break. when we return, why you should be in jail.

the list is long of those who do wrong. the circumstances around eric garner's death brings light to another issue. our country has too many laws. a legal scholar estimates 70% of americans have committed a jail-worthy crime. for example in alabama it is a crime to, quote, name one's self-for the purpose of gaining sympathy. i wore an arm cast to get

attention and free drinks. >> how many crimes have you committed and have you ever been caught? you can tell us because -- >> anything you say on tv it doesn't uphold in court. >> then i have dark secrets. >> i don't know how i feel about this. these are my favorites. in texas it is illegal to sell your eye. in new york it is illegal to commit uh -- adultery. >> unenforced. >> we know it is legitimate. >> tucker, are there too many laws or not enough laws ? >> there aren't enough laws. i am glad you asked that. people might step out of line. tax law alone, most people would violate it unintentionally without an accountant. at a certain point it is -- the government could put you in prison at anytime. >> it is like breaking a law

out of ignorance. i do it all the time. >> 70% is too low. >> you are right. i would have to agree with that. could it be the fact that maybe cops are being a little more lax? they are letting us get away with more. >> thanks to the beauty and wonderment of twitter they have been tweeting a lot at me about their beliefs on laws and how we have too many laws in relation to the gardener case. it is interesting. i am shocked that it is this high in number. >> i had people explain to me the tax law behind that. it is fascinating to me. >> as a liberal it is pretty disgusting, no? >> it got my attention. it listened. we want to agree on on -- in fact, the war on drugs. that's a whole nest of laws

that we should untangle. do we need that many? as a conservative argument i find it fascinating. i have been listening to it. >> in this nest of laws are there any we should weed out? >> on the advice of my attorney i decline to answer any questions. of course. we have too many laws and too many cooks. there are 3,000 things that are criminalized. steven carper at -- steven carter said there are more 3,000 or more federations that are enforcement. that's 300,000 things you can go to jail for or be fined for. we can get by with 10 or 20 laws. 10 or 20 things being illegal. or have something that says just be cool. that should be the law of the land.

>> i like that. >> i break one law all the time. it is the law of attraction. i was born very good looking. >> it is a species of law and unintended consequences. >> it is a story about good news. you have videos of animals? you can send them to us at fox news.com/red eye. hey matt, what's up?

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there is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. don't listen to the naysayer. switch to comcast business today and get 50 megabits per second for $89.95. comcast business. built for business. returns on monday. guests include, sonny johnson, lou daabs and joe mackey. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. it is bad news for good news. a russian website, the city reporter, lost readers after it ran feel good pieces for a day. on december 1st it would try to prove that up lifting news is not a myth. headlines included no disruption on the roads despite snow. and adam levine falls down a well.

i did not write this. of course reader ship tanked. the deputy editor wrote on facebook, quote, we look for positives in the day's news and we think we found them, but we don't think anybody needs them. that's the trouble. do you need good news? in your bitter cold heart you must. >> no, i think all good news is fake, first of all. >> oh, that's true. >> it proves the old saying that good news is no news. >> no news is good news? >> i turned it around. >> word play. >> no traffic is not news. no one will sit there and watch a report on how there is no traffic. nobody was murdered today is not news. >> plane lands safely. >> do you pick news based off how you make it feel? >> i pick news based on how it makes other people feel and does it make them want to press click on their computer.

>> and what makes people press click in your mind? >> prurient impulses, sexually unsatisfied and alcoholic expins so many knee yaks. normal -- and insomniacs. normal people. >> so if people like bad news does that mean that bad news is actually good news? >> that's a very good way of looking at it. i don't think people are used to good news. when i watch -- i watch the news a lot. when i get bored or need a break from the drama i turn on "housewives of new jersey" which is more drama. playing off the points you guys just made, good news isn't important news. a natural disaster is bad, but you need to know about that. >> the birth of a child is not important news? >> it is bad if it is happening in new jersey. it is great if it is happening in bali because it is not happening to you.

this is why people read the obits. they are not dead. >> i don't read the obits. >> do you like to read sad stuff? >> i live in a constant bubble of fear. >> why? >> you can call me butterscotch, if you want. >> i like fear. it ix ma the blood race and gets the adrenaline pumping. >> what do you feed adrenaline for? >> i like to not run. >> when you are on the internet. >> there are good news stories that are -- i mean when someone does something heroic, people will watch that. people like to see other people being heros. >> this happened in russia. how much good news is in russia? they have two stories and then they have no readers. a very special thanks to carly and john devore and tv's andy

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