this is the beginning of the gop telling us they can govern, no government shutdown. that will do it for sunday morning futures. thanks for being here. have a great sunday. on the buzz meader this sunday, a rolling stones story, alleging a gang rape at the university of virginia falls apart as new reporting underlines the account of the accuser. even her friends question the acuter. how does this shoddy piece ever get published? from ferguson to statton island, the media pounce on another death of a black man in a confrontation of police. but this time, there was video and this time many analysts on the right as well as the left are appalled. >> there's thought to have been an indictment and it ought to have been an indictment for some form of man slaughter. >> and where is the humanity?

how does a human being hear somebody said 11 times i can't breathe and you don't stop? >> but are some pundits melding this into a racial and anti-police narrative? a woman files a lawsuit against bill cosby, saying he sexually assaulted her when she was 14, but that was 30 years ago. >> the bub deserves to know if mr. cosby is a saint or a sexual predator. >> are the media now turning cosby's -- into a circus? plus, a congressional staffer uses facebook to rip president obama's daughters. are the media unfairly piling on? i'm howard kurtz and this is "media buzz."

the garner case never got that much media attention outside of new york, but with the country on edge in ferguson, a video of garner being surrounded by police officers is being replayed again and again with commentator across the spectrum agreeing with the gist of this new york daily news cover, we are breathless. >> i will say upon seeing the video that you just saw and hearing mr. gardner say he could not breathe, i was extremely troubled. i would have loosenned my grip. i desperately wish the officer would have done that. >> outrage on the case? pretty simple. a police officer was caught on camera killing an unarmed black man and got away with it. there aren't many americans out there who feel this killing was justified. >> i am no longer shocked by these things. i have come to expect when a police officer is in a situation

like this they will not be indicted and if indicted they will not be convicted. >> a black grand jury will put themselves in the victim's shoes. that's the harsh reality of american justice today. >> they tell us that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. clearly a black man's life is not worth a ham sandwich when you put these stories together. >> joining us now, chersharyl attkiss attkisson. matt lewis, senior contributor at the daily caller and richard fouler, a syndicated radio talk show host. cheryl, why are the media so united in the case of eric garner's death? >> i think, like they said, the evidence is different. there is a videotape. and this was an opportunity for people who have been criticizing the message that some saw out of ferguson, including fox news, to

say we're not going to treat every incident the same way. we are looking at the facts and this is our opportunity to television the two. >> even this morning, "the washington post" has a huge front page story about the ferguson case, two lives collide, a nation divides. one difference, the central prosecutor explained why there was no indictment released. the new york prosecutor hasn't explained anything. does this complain why some people on your size are being to critical of the handling of eric garner? >> i think so. one might assume the reason they haven't explained it is they don't have much good to explain. if you watch the video, there's not much to explain about what happened. being a police officer is an incredibly difficult job.

i believe the vast majority of police officers are trying to do what's right. but if you watch this video, i don't see how you can justify. i've seen a lot of conservatives speaking out saying this was wrong. >> a lot of conservatives commentators, i would say, inclooet client to give the politics the benefit of the doubt in these situations. >> i think the video was so damming, it's impossible to see beyond the fact that this guy was sitting on the ground for 11 minutes yelling i can't breathe, i can't breathe, i can't breathe. before there was a grand jury decision, i think that the media took -- of the police force more than they should have. but with that being said, i'm proud to see the folks speak out. >> and what if there was no video? >> ferguson became a story in large part because of the rightons and after the

nonindictment. the taton island case has sparked demonstrations in new york, here in washington and across the country. there's been arrests, there's been blocked traffic. largely, it's been peaceful. has that affected the tone of the coverage? >> it might have, but maybe because people seem to be on the side of the victim in the second case versus the first case. i disagree people gave ferguson the benefit out doubt. but in this case, i think people think there was something wrong based on the videotape that was out. the protesters didn't feel as though nobody was listening to them. already their vice president was being heard. >> al sharpton among those express i expressing distaste. going to the press conference with eric garner's widow and

interviewing him on his show. >> the street beat has one job and that is to protect the people in that neighborhood. t not to make a statement that makes prime time people on msnbc feel better about america. >> no -- >> that was the wrong sound. that's dzhokhar bjoe scar besib the police officer's job. >> i think that was probably before the garner case. i think that was responsive to ferguson. i think joe scarboro has a important role to play at msnbc when his network wag goes to their respective corners. when you look at ferguson, i recommend that washington post story. it is not clear at all what happened. >> with the one exception that

there is no dispute that michael brown went into that police car, attacked darren wilson, it was a struggle for the gun. >> we do know that and with for ensive evidence. i think what joe scar borrow was saying, standing up to his network and saying, look, police officers do have a difficult job. they go out every day and put their lives on the line. i've been very critical on the police in the case of the garner incident, but let's not bash the police universally. >> i respect the rule of law. i think there's an argument to be had that you can't look at the ferguson case or the eric gardner case in a vacuum, right? i think we'll be talking about next the 12-year-old shot and killed in cleveland. as you look at this larger having um, you see there is indeet a problem.

>> is that problem reflected adequately in your view in the media coverage and the long standing tension between majority white police departments and some communities that are heavily minority? >> well, i think it's starting to because you have this endless, consistent protest that you're seeing, and the more protests you have, the more the media will be forced to focus on this disparity. because of that, i think we're making steps in the right direction, but i think we have to have a larger conversation about is there indeed a problem in this country between after can american men and police. >> we talked about al sharpton guesting involved in this earlier. right now we have a situation almost in terms of what happens to eric gardner, the jury should have indicted. there are solutions, there are body counts. if this becomes -- if al

sharpton demagogs this and makes it about race, you could have the effect of whites retreating to their corner where they reflex italy defend the bliss the blacks assuming that the police are wrong and it's just not that way. >> can i say something about the problem as a journalist in covering this story, to me, there's a difference between police officer who may have made bad mistakes and proof that they made those mistakes because they were racially motivated. and in both of the cases, i haven't seen evidence of the part of the mrufr who was accused, evidence that they shouted racial slurs, that they had some sort of thing that we can hang on to. >> there is no such evidence, but there is a gut feeling that if michael brown and eric gardner had been white, would these have unfolded in the same

way? >> it's a fair question to ask, but as a journalist reporting it, you have to be careful to understand what the evidence does and doesn't say. >> let me play this, al sharpton. again, he is part of the story appearing with eric guarder's widow and having her on the msnbc show. we have been working together since this tragedy happened, me and your mother-in-law. explain how you feel tonight. you haven't talked to anybody -- >> no. i feel now, after that verdict, you know, of course i was disappointed, angry. you know. >> do you have a problem with -- that we saw this in ferguson, as well, sharpton the activist, the msnbc commentator? >> that's where the industry is headed. i'm okay with it because we know where it is.

>> i'm okay with it, too, for the same reason. >> pick up on cheryl's point about no overt evidence, no explicit racial slurs and how that influence tess coverage of these cases or do you really need that kind of evidence because, in your view, is there a apparently with the way these things play out? >> here is the thing. where there's smoke, there's fire, right? and i think in all these cases, you've seen some level of smoke. i think it's the job of good media reporting to sort of say, well, is there a problem here? let's look at the statistics, let's look at what the broad brush of statistics say. is there a problem between african-american men and police? if there is, body cams is a step in the right direction, but clearly in new york city, that didn't work. >> we want to hear from you. join our conversation. go on twitter. send me some messages and we will read some at the end of the program. ahead, we'll look at the charges and counter charges

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campuses. shutting down all fraternity as the university of virginia looked at disturbing sexual assault claims. >> now that story is falling apart amid mounting criticism of the author. >> i thought that it was important to tell the story in as graphic a way that jackie, the main story in my character tells it. when we start talking about sexual assault, we call it sexual assault, sexual misconduct. what does that mean? i thought it was important to show not some form of misconduct, but there is a violent crime. >> interesting that she calls jack rolling stone apologized, but this morning, there has been no apology, dropping language about misplaced trust in jackie admitting to, quote, mistakes.

we should not have made this agreement with jackie and we should have convinced her that the truth would have been better serve by getting the other side of the story. >> it matters. i cannot think of a straight news organization that would have thought by publishing in this form. i looked at the reporter's background and she's written some great pieces from magazines like cosmopolitan, self-gq, new yorker, men's health. none of these, including "rolling stones" are news organizations. i would point out that even news organizations with the most rigorous editorial controls make mistakes. so this is something, a whole other story. >> no secret "rolling stones" is a liberal magazine. do you have any sense that the magazine or this reporter was committed to a narrative about sexual assault being an issue on camp justice? >> rolling stones is a big deal.

it took down -- >> but even that story had an editorial technique used with off the report information. that would have been viewed differently at a straight news outlet. >> you may be right. this is agenda based, narrative based media. nyu's jay rosen tweeted saying that this may be the biggest journalistic mess up since the dan rather gate story about george w. bush's error national guard service. what did this is two stories have in common? they both confirmed narratives the mainstream liberal media believes. it's what they believed about george w. bush, confamily ro rooming things they already suspected. >> i think indeed there is a skull assault problem. i went to a major university. i get that. i think the rolling stones made

a big mistake in pushing forward this narrative. that is bad journalism. >> do you feel this mag queen was sort of committed to the sauce and therefore, obviously, a lot of shortcutes and shoddy technique was used? >> i agree. on top of that, they've trivialized rape for the next rape victim. now, the victims here in this particular case is the fraternity. they put the shoe on the other food here. >> i think you've identified a really important point about the impact on uva, the impact on the fraternity and the fallout for women who are sexually assaulted or raped. up next, we will take an in-depth look at the reporting mistakes in this rolling stones piece in our new segment, media milestone. and later, a look at the charges with bill cosby now that gloria alred is going after him. l arthritis lasts 8 hours but aleve can last 12 hours.

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we're back talking about this rolling stones article on gang rape. what would you have done if you had accused the acuters of rape and you said you believe her, but i don't want you to talk to any of the seven men who she claimed brutally did this at the university of virginia? >> believing the source is only party of the step. you have to, for the source's protection, for the story's protection, sxlaj to them if they are trying to limit what you're doing as a reporter that you just can't. if someone like that suggested to me that you can't contact the people that i've accused of this, i would have state from the start, your story won't be believed if we don't have the other side. once it comes out, stuff wouldn't have been including

that should have been included. >> when the criticism first dug in and said no, we believe our story, they started backtracking today, completely different apology which is acknowledging more mistakes and taking the tonus off jackie. but at the same time, this is such an egregious journalistic train wreck, i wonder if you think people should lose their jobs over this. >> that's up to them to decide. i want to read some of the statements they put out. "rolling stone" said because of the sensitive nair nature of jackie's story, we agreed not to contact any of the men she claimed participated because of the sensitive nature? that doesn't make sense. that explains makes no sense to me. the more sensitive the allegations, the greater the obligation to contact those who are accused, not less objection. i don't even understand the allegation. >> having done a lot of investigative reporting myself, i think there is a tendency, a danger, you might say, to fall

in love with the story, with the source, the point where you minimize conflicting elements to it because you want to story to be true. whether or not this was idea logical driven, i think rolling stone wanted too much for this story to be true. there are all this graphic details about shattered glass and she was supposedly bloodied been. >> if you look at all the regular flags that were thrown up, from what the washington po post found out after the fact, things that didn't match up, she said there were shards of glass in her back, she was beaten about the face. but folks at "the washington post" that were talked to said she didn't appear to be injured. she turned down a chance to file any claim with the university. these things -- even though something probably did happen to jackie, whatever it was, and even though you may believe her story to be true, you have to say to yours, these are perils

with the story. >> and eem not saying nothing happened. one of these friends interviewed say she had told him she had been forced to perform oral sex of a group of men, but that's very different than being brutally attacked and having to go to the hospital. >> and sometimes as a reporter you have to back off what you think is the truth for the sake of the facts that you have. >> and there are certain elements that you think are probably true, but you can't quite nail it down. >> right. and that should make you have, whether you believe it or not, they have other characters in the story that were air tight. she could have made a story centered around one of them, but she clearly wanted this story to be the centerpiece and it was a sloppy decision especially in light of toward the end jackie was asking not to be included in the article.

if someone southward that to me, i would be very worried about that. >> that is the biggest red flag of all. a lot of credit to the "new york times" reporter. but interestingly, the journalist of secretmy here was triggered by a little known blogger, a former editor of the magazine who had been burned by steven glass. he wrote an essay saying this doesn't seem right and that woke up the mainstream media which had run with it to say some of us need to take a second look. >> i looked at the coverage to see was the mainstream media correct in picking up the story. i concluded -- this is just an aside, by the way, that once the university made it a news story by suspending the fraternity and inviting a criminal investigation, it did invite mainstream coverage. >> right.

there were now official reactions that you had to cover without knowing whether jackie's story was true. i think there's more. thank you. ahead on "media buzz," a congressional aid who lost her job for trashing the president's daughters. have they gone overboard? but first, gloria alred wave his right and allow himself to be sued. really?

life from america's news headquarters, i'm eric shawn. republicans boosting their senate majority with a victory in louisiana's runoff. cassidy defeated landriux. landrieu's defeat posed the end of the democratic grip on the deep south and is a blow for one of louisiana's most famous political families.

and six guantanamo bay detainees are now being sent to uruguay as refugees. after delaying it for a month after security concerns. the six men all have suspects tie toes al qaeda and they've been held there for the last 12 years. they are the first detainees transferred from gitmo to south america. here is howard cursed with more "media buzz." >> bill cosby has basically been drummed out of the television business. a woman named judy hough surfaced saying he sexually assaulted her at the playboy mansion in 1974. celebrity lawyer gloria alred pulled a press conference, as she is one to do, with three cosby accusers. >> it could be advantageous for

mr. cosby to give up the statute of limitations because there is a huge cloud on his reputation and on his legacy. >> i want mr. cosby to face justice for what he has done to me and to so many other women. >> so are the media being fair in covering these latest allegations? joining us now from seattle, michael medved and christina belantoni, editor and chief of roll call. now that gloria alred has dived into this, what does his involvement do to the coverage of the story? >> i think it polarizes it. i think the motion that she's looking out for bill cosby's reputation is ludicrous. one of the things that you have to say for the cosby legal team is considering the facts that

these allegations have been swirling around for at least 14 years, they've done a pretty good job of fending them off so far. the difficulty right now is so many women, 26 by latest count, that he's begun to have to pullback and, at age 77, his comeback seems to be at the very best stalled. he also had to resign from the board of simple university, his alma mater. >> everybody is cutting ties, he's become a liability. this is a very serious story. some of these women may not be telling the truth. has it become an entertainment story for the media? >> it's definitely an entertainmentory. the last segment on the rolling stone piece and this illustrate we are talking about sexuality assault dichtly in the media now. people are approaching this differently. in some way webs it's great to have a national conversation about something that remains a serious problem not just here,

but globally. you have the media circuit and everybody focusing on the he said she said. this is a very serious accusati accusation. it's so surprising for me how long it took for this to become a major national story. i hadn't been award of it years ago, but many, many reports had been out there. >> the media for years protected cosby. every time any act ewetation is made they're all piling on. he can't be sued because of the statute of limitations. this woman says, well, i was a minor at the time and i just now realized the pain. and gloria alred says why don't you voluntarily agree to be sued and boom, it's a story. >> i think a lot of this at least in part is inspired by the case which is not that well known in the united states of sir jimmy seville who was a popular media figure in great britain, he was the host of the

top of the pop. and after his death in 2011, 450 credible cases, 28 of them children below if age of 10 of sexual predation, some of them involving drugs as the allegations against cosby. now people believe that toe about he true. the big question, and i think this is a big question for cosby, is how could the media have kept it quiet for so long when these charges have been swirling around for so long? that seems to me is the real story here. >> but one of the questions for journalists is how you prove these allegations, especially when they happen 20, 30, in some cases 40 years ago. >> right. i cover politics. i can understand how it would be difficult for an editor to say go ahead and pursue this. a lot of people don't want to talk. he has not acknowledged any of this. >> he was asked by the ap and he tried to get the question and the answer not the be used.

>> exactly. but in other ways, this was somebody who was representative of america .american culture for so many years. somebody said to me recently, that the senate floor would actually stop and people would go back in the gloek room and watch the cosby show when it was on. >> the image has really changed. one of the women who has been highly profiled, janice dickinson. >> what's your response to marty singer, again, cosby's lawyer? i think that speaks volumes. >> i want marty singer -- when if someone raped your wife, marty? what if bill cosby came and dragged their innocence, marty? and i've said it this to you before, bill cosby. you're one sick [ bleep ] puppy. >> michael medved, you're also a film critic. is this just evolvement of bad theater? >> no.

it's serious stuff. i do think this is going to change things, just like that story you covered about the university of virginia and rolling stone is going to change things. i think we have surrounded our mega celebrities with this sort of cone of protect and affection. that was certainly the case here. ijs that is going to be much, much less likely in the future. one of the things thaefr guy in the country is thinking about is what does he need to do that for? he's bill cosby. if he wants to go to bed with some girl in a different place -- it is very, very disturbing and i think people are going to be much more aggressive in investigating these charges as they arrive. >> the brief answer here, are the media, at the same time, guilty of unfairly convicting cosby without his -- >> this is what the media does, right? it's going to continue to be a

circuit and every sweet he gives out. this is how we do it. >> michael medved, thanks for getting up early in seattle. ahead of the program, dr. nancy snyderman finally apologizes on camera for violencing her ebola quarentine. but first, why didn't they think jonathan gruber's obamacare videos were news worthy? mmmmmmm. look out. now there's even more of the amazing cinnamon taste you love on cinnamon toast crunch. crave those crazy squares even more.

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elizabeth lawsuiton made a very bad mistake on facebook. she ripped the president's daughters, sasha and malia for looking bored and can distracted at the annual turkey pardon session. act like being in the white house matters to you, dressed like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar. a story quickly made all three network news casts, elizabeth lost her job. christine is still with us. obviously, a congressional communications director losing her job for going after the obama daughters is a significant story. but does it deserve that much coverage? >> as you've written, aptly so, that you can ruin your career on social media. this was a twitter ready story

because you could tear down in 140 characters. there were pictures of sasha and malia standing in front of their dad, rolling their eyes in their short skirt. it was perfect for social media. that being said, what isn't television ready about the gruber story? the media didn't pay a heck of a lot of attention to that. why are we paying so much attention to lawsuiton's story? it has to do with the subject matter, the snarky comment she made. the idea that these kids are sort of off limits. it was perfect for social media. >> and it skunt need tv an outcome, right? a major health care law that is law and it has been upheld by the supreme court. that is still an ongoing political debate. this is you can talk about it and show the pictures and it was a slow holiday season. >> it's thanksgiving. thanksgiving holiday, period. you show the turkey, you show the daughters, it's a morality

lay. these very same organizations covered this obscure congressional aide who, by the way, apologized within hours, and gave up her job. it wasn't like she wasn't punished. and it was on the front page of "the washington post" and it was in the "new york times." well, the new york post and the nut work news casts waited anywhere from four, tief, six, seven, eight days to cover the gruber videos in which he called the american people stupid and said obama care was sold. isn't that more of an important story? >> sure. i don't think you nedly need to be complacent to. it should have gotten more coverage. in roll call's defense, we did quite a bit about this. we covered congressional staffers. we learned a little bit about her, she owns her own social media bit, as well, people people advice on what to do,

what is important. i am chelsea clinton's same age and i remember very much when she was getting attacked for being an awkward, young lady which i also was, you know, by rush limbaugh and others. but it's a difficult situation. and so the media does give it a ton of coverage. >> there is a roar here. i remember writing about people magazine putting chelsea clinton on the cover and being denounced by bill and hillary and this is during the monica lewinski scandal. the bush sisters were busted for underage consumption. you have to report that. so there's a history here about shouldn't a president's kids be off limits? >> img they haven't been off limits. but i think it just depends how far you're going to go.

and i think lawsuiton's comments were considered a step too far. it was a long and critical attack on these girls and they're very young. those dresses are the style, whether you like it or not. so it that it thought it was an unfair attack just on its face. but she made it public on social media. these days on social media, you can be your own editor. >> this was on her personal facebook page. clearly somebody who is friends with her, ratted her out. yes, it's possible its could have been found, but somebody sent this somewhere. the girls, in addition to being they're wearing the styles of the day, but they're with their d dad. >> we invited elizabeth on the show. do you believe that because she was a ren staffer and the obama girls were treated differently than gruber, i'm wondering whether there wasn't a lot of

journalists, many of them who were parnths being genuinely upset that the 13 yield and 16-year-olds are targets now. >> i think it's a little of both. i think a lot of young people are journalistes and don't have kids and maybe like the idea of going after a republican staffer or a staffer in general. >> and it was so over the top and just, again, an easy story to cover. yeah, of course, you're going to go after it this way. and it out by she stepped down several days later and left the office. >> then they dug into her past. oh, hey, you're going to call them out, what about your own history and her shoplifting episode. >> she's beenvil taken out onli after the break, a mass uprising at the new republican as the magazine closed. and looking for a new sunday anchor. that's next in our buzz briefs. she's still the one for you.

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scaring my community and the country, but adding to the confusion of terms i think came as fast and furious as the news about ebola did. we didn't really appreciate and frankly we were not sensitive to how absolutely frightened americans were. agreed to a voluntary quarantine in my home and then 72 hours later left my home. >> it wasn't about what was medically right to do, it was about breaking a promise. >> it was about breaking a promise. >> she was right to personally apologize on the air. and a tip of the hat to lawyerer for asking the tough questions. how could they not kwet the accus accused. poor journalism from the start. they said different sourcing standards for this story compared to others.

they're desperate to appear relevant. dana, because it made white frat boys look really, really bad. some cable shows like to put on a lot of guests at once, or they disappear. that's what happened on msnbc. >> republicans -- >> we got a good chair me in here. oh, he's gone. that was your best yet. did he say anything? >> no. >> the entire time? >> he had -- he said one thing. >> it was really good, though. no, it was really good, though, wasn't it? >> no. >> what did he say? >> i don't remember do you? >> after getting up in 6:00 in the morning, i'm sure they'll make it up to jeremy. that's it for this edition of "media buzz." i'm howard kurtz. we hope you like our facebook page. we post web exclusive videos.

you can e-mail us there. we're back here next sunday morning, 11:00 and 5:00 eastern. check it out for the latest buzz. a fox news alert, reports of new u.s. drone strikes in a rural village near the afghan/pakistan border. taking out 00 commander and other suspected terrorists. welcome to "america's news headquarters." >> hello and i'm eric shawn. this comes as the pentagon is announcing the u.s. has transferred six guantanamo detainees to uraguay. we're live in washington with the latest on this transfer. >> good morning.