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so that was interesting. let me know what you think on twitter. see you tomorrow. welcome to "hannity." tonight it is mayor versus mayor here in new york city. in a moment rudy giuliani will be here in studio to react to comrade bill de blasio's comments attacking him on race in america. but over the weekend the mayor doubled down on his emotionally and extremely personal comments about his own son following the grand jury decision not to indict nypd officer daniel pantaleo in the death of eric garner. take a look. >> it's different for a white child. with dan te very early on, with my son, we said, look, if a police officer stops, you do everything he tells you to do. don't move suddenly, don't reach
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for your cell phone. bauds we knew, sadly, there's a greater chance it might be misinterpreted if it was a young man of color. >> the mayor continued that conversation this week only to attack former new york city mayor rudy giuliani for stating solid statistics regarding heightened crime rate in the black community. and this is what he said. >> i think he fundamentally misunderstanding the reality. we're trying to bring police and community together. there is a problem here. there is a rift here that has to be overcome. you cannot look at an incident in missouri and another incident in cleveland, ohio and another incident in new york city all happening in the space of weeks and act like there's not a problem. there's something fundamental we have to get at here. it's not going to be helped by accusing either the community or the police of having bad intention or not doing their job. >> here to respond former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. you fundamentally misunderstand reality. i didn't think you were going to
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laugh. >> it's absolutely hilarious that i fundamentally misunderstand reality. when in fact what he's doing is propounding the idea that the police are responsible for this. i have never denied the fact that the police at times misbehave and act criminally. in fact, i don't remember mayor de blasio putting any police officers in prison. i've put about 70 in prison. so police officers can misbehave. they are part of the problem. however, 96% of the problem is black-on-black crime. and his failure to recognize that is making this situation worse. if you want to have an honest conversation about race in this country and you're not a racist, you're not bending over backwards to worry about how you're perceived in one community or the other, you've got to be able to say two things. any police shooting should be investigated carefully. and if the police officer's wrong, he goes right to prison. not all the times are they
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wrong. number two, the reason those shootings take place more often in the black community than the white community is that in new york city for example, the city he happens to be the mayor of, 75% of the shootings are done by blacks. that's the reality. that's reality. when you escape reality, i'm afraid that's the person that may be the racist. >> let me throw up numbers here, the latest we have stats for is 2012, and that is the number of blacks in 2012 killed by law enforcement with a firearm, 123. if you look at the percentage of black murder victims that are killed by other black offenders, that number, we'll put it up, is 9 90%. so if i'm understanding what you're saying here, if we want to save the lives of kids that are getting killed, we have to look at the bigger source of the problem. in other words, the names that we don't know. >> what this indicates to me is the mayor has a hard time getting past his ideology. his ideology tells him police are bad, they cause the
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problems, i have to warn my son about the police. there may be a 1% chance, maybe less, maybe a 2% chance that any black young boy is going to be shot by the police. there's a 95% chance they'll be shot by another black. so you better train him how not to get shot at 90% of the time. >> let me give you an example, and this is just one. i'm not picking this out for any other reason, but it is so shocking. and i warned people ahead of time. this was on live leak, the website, and it was reportedly outside the st. louis area. and you watch this assault by a young person that picks up a shovel and beating people. you hear it so loud. just take a look at this video. >> come on! come on! [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ].
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>> oh, my god! there's a person dead! [ bleep ]. >> go in the house! go in the house! >> all right. we're going to run that again. beating. >> that's the rule rather than the exception what you just saw. >> that's sad. police shooting is a rare exception. the reality is there's a lack of proportion in what these people are saying. and in doing that they escape the underlying problem. and if we don't deal with the underlying problems, there's nothing inherently wrong with these communities. it's problems that have to be cured, problems that have to be dealt with like education. >> why not support charter schools? why not support vouchers? why not support new ways of having education in the black
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community instead of submitting to the will of the teachers unions? what about more jobs, more opportunities, doing what i did in harlem cleaning it up, cleaning up the crime scene to bring the national organizations that have never come to harlem before. >> how many people were getting killed a year, 2,500? a year, individuals in new york. >> i saved more black lives than any mayor -- >> this is important. >> between bloomberg and i we certainly saved more black lives than -- >> was your plan designed to save black lives in particular? >> it was to save lives. i said one city, one standard. there's no difference between a white life and a black life. and bill bratton knows this. the comstat program, where are the crime located? a lot of police in harlem to save the children in bedford stiverson. >> crime went down.
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>> it went down 65%. and 75% of that 65% saved black lives. but when there are a lot of auto thefts in brooklyn, which i happen to know as u.s. attorney i was arresting mostly italian white kids. and when i was u.s. attorney i was putting mostly italian white mafia guys in jail. so to me -- >> you're angry at this mayor for -- to say you fundamentally misunderstand reality. >> i've been spending my life fighting crime. i've brought crime down more in this city than any mayor in the history of this city. if i misunderstood reality, crime would still be at, you know, 2,000 murders a year. >> it seems to me that for example if you look at the garner case, the amount of taxes in new york city and state for a pack of cigarettes is six bucks a pack. that's a lot of revenue for new york city, for new york state. they created a black market. so police are literally tasked
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with going into a convenience store -- >> it could be -- >> no, it's not their fault. >> could be the city's fault in terms of the laws that are passed, in terms of what the police are asked to do. look at the garner case this way. suppose somebody was driving 80 miles an hour. police pull you over and say give me your license and registration and you say go to hell, is he going to walk away? >> they task police officers to go into these convenience stores to see if they have the tax tamp -- >> that's not the police officer's fault. that's a problem of policy. >> agreed. >> mayor de blasio -- >> my point. if they want the revenue so bad. >> but, how about one of the teaching moments of this could be, don't resist arrest. if we're going to train the police officers in courtesy, professionalism and respect, which we do all the time, and treat the community in a much more emp thetic and decent way, how about we teach the community
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to treat the police as they should be treated as they're the people putting their lives on the line to save them. and when a police officer says put your hands up, put your hands up. when a police officer says turn around, turn around. don't resist arrest. if either one of these two people had done that, they'd be alive. and if one hadn't held up a store clerk before and smacked a man across the face, he might still be here. >> coming up next on "hannity". >> this isn't going to be solved overnight. this is something deeply rooted in our society. it's deeply rooted in our history. >> president obama says racism is deeply rooted in this country. now this as a brand new poll reveals american people believe race relations have become worse under his watch. i go one-on-one with tavis smiley. first, has president obama made race relations worse in the country since he took office? head over to facebook.com/hannity or twitter. tell us your answer. my answer at the end of the show straight ahead. ft holiday music ]♪
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welcome back to "hannity." amid the fallout following the grand jury decision in ferguson, missouri, president obama is once again stirring up racial tensions across the country. here's what he said in an interview with b.e.t. >> this isn't going to be solved overnight. this is something deeply rooted in our history. number one, the understanding that we have made progress and so it's important to recognize as painful as these incidents are, and we can't equate what's happening now to what was happening fifty years ago. the second thing i insist for these young people is we have to
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be persistent. because typically progress is in steps. it's in increments. you know, when you're dealing with something as deeply rooted as racism or bias in any society, you got to have vigilance, but you have to recognize that it's going to take some time. and you just have to be steady. >> interestingly in bloomberg politics recentlyleased a poll revealing majority of americans, 5 3%, believe race relations have worsened under president obama himself. and only 9% believe that they have gotten better. meanwhile, the widow of eric garner has come out saying that she does not believe that race was to blame for her husband's death. watch this. >> i feel that he was murdered unjustly. i feel like -- i don't even feel like it's a black and white thing, honestly. you know, in my opinion. i really don't feel like it's a black and white thing. i feel like it's just something that he continued to do and the
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police knew. you know? they knew. it wasn't like it was a shock. they knew. >> here with reaction to this and much more, author of "death of a king," the real story of dr. martin luther king. tavis smiley is back with us. >> hey, sean. how are you? >> do you have any evidence you can present to this audience at all that either ferguson or eric garner's death was rooted in any way, shape, manner or form is rooted in racism? >> three things, number one, race is still the most intractable -- >> i didn't ask you that. >> i'm answering the way i choose to answer. racism is still -- it's a part of everything we do still. number two, too often black men, i know this personally even as a host on national television, as black men too often we're seen as the boogy man and the presumption of guilt is always made toward us as opposed to being presumed innocent.
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number two, and number three, the clip you played earlier from mayor de blasio is right. when too many parents in this country in 2014 still have to have the talk with their black sons for how to save and protect their own lives, something is amiss, sean. >> you still haven't answered my question. wait. there are protests, tavis, going on all across the country. people saying hands up, don't shoot, i can't breathe. two very different cases. i'm asking do you have any evidence at all you can give our audience on the issue of this being race related? and you haven't given our audience one specific thing in this case or either case, have you? >> i was not in ferguson with mr. brown, nor was i in new york with mr. garner. what i can tell you is that for fifty years of my life i've been black every one of those years and i know what it's like to try to navigate -- >> i'm not doubting that. >> that's what i'm saying. >> i am particularly angry at the eric garner death. if you listen to the rest of ms.
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garner's there's cigarette man this is about a city obsessed with getting every penny they can out of the high tax cigarettes they have in new york which is six bucks a pack. but that's a different case. he should not have died this man. he shouldn't have been confronted. he shouldn't have been known by the police. >> that's right. >> that to me is more fundamental -- and a lot of your arguments i would agree with, but there's no race examples here. >> in this case -- >> i want -- >> go ahead. >> -- because we watch all these protests. we've sent our cameras out. we've asked the protesters, did they read the case, did they read the evidence in the case, they didn't. i'll do it now. in the case of michael brown, there's a lesson to be learned. don't rob a store, don't intimidate a clerk, don't fight a cop for his gun, don't charge at him like a football player with his head down.
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let's go to the eyewitnesses in the case which happen to be mostly black from the grand jury testimony. i could say for sure brown never put his hands up after he did his body gesture -- sean, sean. >> i'm going to finish. -- he ran toward the officer full charge. witness 30, i heard a lot of people talking about how brown had his hands up, he did not have his hands up. he turned around with an attitude. dang if that kid didn't start running right at the cop like a football player with his head down. this is number 48, the dude turned back around, started charging toward the police officer. the police officer told him to stop at least three times and the boy wouldn't stop. now, that doesn't sound like a narrative that has been barked by a lot of people. hands up don't shoot. the narrative that's being advanced in this country is predicated on a lie, isn't it? >> i've been patient.
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this is your show, obviously. i'm delighted -- >> there you go. you have the floor. >> i hope you give me as much time as it took for you to read comments. number one, with regard to mr. brown, when you hear officer wilson in his testimony refer to him as a demon and describe him in the way that he did, we go back to my earlier point, sean, that too often black men are already presumed guilty and that officers, not all, but too many come at us with an approach that already raises the level of tension before you get to the unfortunate and untimely death of mr. brown in ferguson. it's the way we review too often from jump street number one. number two, with regard eric garner case even -- i'm not going to do this, but for the sake of argument i granted out everything you said about michael brown, how in the case of eric garner, sean hannity, my friend, do you have an officer doing something, a technique, a chokehold, that is unlawful -- >> it wasn't a chokehold. it's not unlawful either. you're wrong.
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>> no -- it's a gangster department policy. i get it. >> it's not against the law. >> whatever you want to call it, it was a -- new york police department policy to apply -- it was against policy, sean. you're splitting hairs. >> no, i'm not. there's a very distinct difference. >> sean, call it a headlock. it is against policy, sean. it was an unarmed man, number two. number three, caught on videotape, so much for body cameras. and number four, the corn says it's a homicide and you still want to invite me on this show to argue with me about the fact that eric garner is dead? are you serious? >> no, you need to listen to me because you aren't hearing me. let me educate you because bha i said -- >> educate me. okay. >> the police had no business being near this guy and arresting him nine times in his
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life because the greedy city and the greedy government in new york were arresting him for selling untaxed cigarettes. that was madness to me. number one. number two, whether you like it or not when he's moving his hands around and said -- he resisted. i grant you, there's not enough force in that case. >> the distinction -- hold up. hold up. >> -- hear what they heard about chokeholds and headlocks. >> sean, you read the entire transcript. i heard it. here's the point i'm making, with all due respect you have not shown anywhere near the kind of outrage -- you said it -- >> you're not listening to me. [ overlapping speakers ] this man should be alive today -- then listen to me. >> -- you ought to have eric garner being killed -- spent all this time reading about michael brown. you don't care about death of eric garner, sean.
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not in the way you should. >> you're wrong. you're wrong on a number of points. >> let me say something -- >> no, no, no! you're not going to make that allegation on this program without listening to what i have to say! you need to be -- one other thing, you need to be educated. i say the cops -- >> you see that kind of disrespect? you see that kind of disrespect -- >> they never should have arrested him the first time. the greed of government caused the cops to go there because the government wanted their money. >> sean, this is exactly -- >> i'm angry about what happened. so don't put words in my mouth or feelings that i have and put them aside. you need to listen to what really happened. >> let me say one more thing and i'll let you go, my friend. thank you. number one, this is what i was talking about earlier when i said that too often our white brothers and sisters even unwittingly talk down to black people. three times you're going to tell me i need to be educated.
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>> i say that all the time on this program. i say it to everybody. >> my final point. >> you need to handle a debate, tavis. and having debated you a lot over the years, you know me better to sit there and accuse me of something that's false. and i am not going to let that happen on this program or any other program. >> let me add one last thing you didn't ask about. but since you're talking about it let me just add this. since you referenced president obama on b.e.t. earlier today, with all due respect to our president barack obama, black folk don't need lectures on black entertainment television. you go to black entertainment television, mr. president, respectfully, to lecture black folk and then say these things take time and dr. king wrote a book why we can't wait. number two, mr. president, respectfully, when you say we
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can't compare what's happening now to what happened fifty years ago, tell that to the parents of these kids who are being gunned down in america's streets. it is open season on black men. and it is in many ways as bad as it was fifty years ago. and finally here's my point, why go to b.e.t. and give black folk a lecture but go to stephen colbert and tell jokes. >> he's wrong on cambridge police, wrong on trayvon martin, he didn't listen to the evidence, he rushed to judge. >> we disagree on that. >> and wrong on sending three white house representatives to the funeral of michael brown -- >> we disagree on that, sean. >> who fought for a cop's gun. >> we disagree on that, sean. >> joe biden saying we'll put you all back in chains, wrong not to confront eric holder -- coward on race because none of that is true. >> i will confront the president -- when he's wrong i'll confront him. but we disagree, my friend, on those issues.
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>> i still love you even though you're a pain in my neck. >> i still love you too. >> we started our careers together. >> we did. i'll get you right one of these days, sean. >> you invite louis farrakhan to your conferences -- >> good night. i'm out of here. good night. good night, sean. >> you ought to apologize to america. i'll give you one last chance. apologize for inviting farrakhan. >> good night, god bless you. >> coming up next on "hannity" straight ahead. >> what mayor de blasio did was throw the entire nypd under the bus. and that's what i think is shameful. i think he should be embarrassed to be standing in front of that microphone groveling like that. >> milwaukee county sheriff david clarke is speaking his mind. he joins us next with his take on president obama's comments, the grand jury decisions and much more. and demonstrations turn violent in berkeley, california this weekend as protesters took to the streets. we'll explain and much more on
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welcome back to "hannity." so late last night berkeley, california erupted into violent anti-police protests in reaction to the grand jury decisions in ferguson and new york city the sadly this latest riot comes on the heels of an all-out verbal assault on america's police officers from many prominent politicia politicians. watch this. >> the way we go about policing has to change. >> people need to know that black lives and brown lives matter as much as white lives. >> all lives must be valued. all lives. >> african-american, most particularly african-american men, are still more likely to be stopped and searched by police, charged with crimes and sentenced to longer prison terms. >> there are still problems. and communities of color aren't
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just making these problems up. >> here with reaction milwaukee county sheriff david clarke is with us. mr. clarke, thank you for being here. appreciate it. i have different takes on both of these. and i look at, for example, michael brown. i think there's lessons to be learned. don't rob, don't intimidate clerks, don't try and steal a cop's gun, don't charge at him like a football player with your head down. i don't see race in that case, do you? >> not at all. two very distingts cases. what we're getting our out of leadership is groveling and opportunism. there's problems in all aspects of america, but the police are not at the heart of it. i'm going to fight with the aggressiveness of a junk yard dog to defend our men and women who put on uniform every day and go out in the right fashion, police and keep their communities safe. they risk their lives doing this. these individuals should have to experience just for one day what it would be like in these american cities without the police. these cities would crumble,
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literally under the weight of what's going on in many of these urban centers. >> i can't disagree with you more. i mean i can't great with you more. i agree. every city, we need cops and we need good relations with cops. i am angry about the eric garner case. what makes me most angry is we have limited police resources, and we're really going to spend time sending cops into one convenience store every day after another to check to see if a tax stamp exists on a pack of cigarettes because there's so much money in it for the government? that's what they do in new york? that's why eric garner's wife said that the police referred to him as mr. cigarette. and her as miss cigarette. in other words they shouldn't have been there. do you agree with that. >> >> i find this case a little more -- i have to look at der determinations made by higher ups to even go after stuff like
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this. who cares? i know the tax revenue that's lost. and i get it that the businesses were complaining about, you know, their lost revenue for this stort of thing. but i would ask myself is there some other way to resolve this dispute short of sending high priced law enforcement officers into it? because when law enforcement officers engage in these types of things, things can go wrong, thing ks go bad. that's what happened in the garner case. >> this guy arrested nine times for selling untaxed cigarettes. that to me is madness. with that said once confronted with police he did resist. what would be the best way to handle it from your perspective? what do you do somebody resisted, creates a confrontation that cops must engage in, don't they? >> sure, sean. look, that's the common thread that winds through both of these cases. both of these individuals resisted a law enforcement officer's lawful command. and the ferguson, missouri, to back off.
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and the case in new york, you know, you're under arrest. and once a law enforcement officer gives that command, whether a person agrees with it or not, you are obligated to comply with that officer's commands and demands to take you into custody. there was resistance. it wasn't as aggravated in the garner case, i get that, but it's still resistance. but like i said, when an officer has to use force, i expect it to be reasonable, aggressive and effective. >> describe a takedown because everyone knows i talk about it a lot. i'm a student of arts. i understand chokeholds, go for two carotid arteries, trachea or -- may sound technical, but the reality is there is a legal distinction. do you see a headlock or chokehold? >> well, you know, there's different angles to that video.
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and that's the problem with it. i don't really want to get into whether it was a chokehold or headlock. >> it matters. >> i find it problematic after they got the guy in custody they didn't perform some sort of, you know, check on him, make sure he's breathing and so on and so forth. he still had to be taken into custody. and the common theme here is this, sean, when a law enforcement officer gives you a lawful command, you must do it. and if that happens, you know what, everything else goes well for you. >> it's funny. i've learned that when i used to speed. i don't speed anymore. i've gotten a little more mature in my life. but when you argue with a cop, it never pays off. when you say i'm sorry, yes, officer, no, sir, in those experiences, i have found it goes a long way when you show the respect that officers deserve. because otherwise if you're hostile, they don't know what's on the other side of that hostility. correct? >> both of those individuals went down a path where it was
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not going to end well for them. and you notice it was a series of events. it didn't happen in just one moment in time. like i said, once a cop or the police officer, i say cop because that's what i consider myself, but once they make that decision you go to jail, the cop is going to win and you are going to jail. >> thank you, sir, for being with us. coming up tonight on this busy news night of "hannity". >> this is a terrible idea. so our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and death. our foreign leaders aing you do this this will cause violence and death. >> a really bad idea. a growing debate on whether cia enhanced interrogation techniques and rendition should be released. catherine herridge is standing by in washington with a full report. and lieutenant colonel ralph peters with more on that straight ahead. roadside assistance from allstate
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welcome back to "hannity." put on high alert this now as the world awaits a new senate report detailing the cia interrogation tactics used in the wake of the september 11th, 2001 terror attacks. here with the very latest fox's own catherine herridge is standing by. catherine. >> sean, the aclu is behind democratic senator dianne feinstein's decision to make the findings public. >> this is a cia that's completely out of control, outside ot system of checks and balances that the constitution set up. they lied to the white house, they lied to the justice department, they lied to congress about what they were doing. >> cia officials say they are not defending the techniques which included the waterboarding of -- they emphasize should not be allowed to rewrite history. earlier the interrogations
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produced valuable intelligence. >> it led to the destruction of other plans, other plots, a capture of other detainees. even the takedown of osama bin laden. >> the report was finished by the summer but negotiations intensified over redaxs and whether the -- used as pseudonyms for cia officers would blow their cover. the current cia director john brennan threatened to resign if the declassification issues were not resolved. today the cia offered no comment for reporters. sean. >> catherine, thank you. here with reaction fox news strategic analyst lieutenant colonel ralph peters. why don't we take a baseball bat and wake up every sleeping terrorist and terrorist cell in america and say america's a bad country, this is what we did. why would we ever do this?
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>> well, first of all, doing it at this time, sean, amounts to nothing less than providing aid and comfort to the enemy. there is no practical value, practical utility, practical advantage gained by releasing this report. the only people that gain are the terrorists who can now rev up the propaganda machine again. it betrays the trust of our allies who helped us in the raw and tumultuous days, confused days, after 9/11. why do it now? i think the democrats -- the obama administratioadministrati so badly that they will do anything to remind us how evil george bush was. george bush, face it, he was responsible for the crucifixion of christ, black death, holocaust, got it. but it's over. dianne feinstein, two things are happening, one, she knows the republican congress coming in would not release this report. second -- i've got to say though
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over the years i've really respected senator feinstein. i don't know what this is about but she seems to have gotten a belated attack of consciousness -- she knew about it, she approved it and went long and now she wants to release this report. sean, my bottom line of this is very simple, the cia deserves commendation -- the officers who went through this kept us safe. they deserve medals, not betrayal. what is happening with the release of this report, again serving no useful purpose, it's a betrayal of the people who keep us safe. i'd give those cia officers meda medals, not reprimands. >> here we have the bush administration and they use enhanced interrogation techniques against terrorists. and we get actionable intelligence, some of which led to the courier which led to bin laden. then we got the obama administration, they release
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terrorists. what does that tell you about -- what's the right way to handle those that are committed to destroying our way of life? i mean, i'm having a hard time understanding or putting my arms around the people that would release this information that our enemies will hold onto. >> you know, well, the only mistake we made regarding guantanamo is we brought too many terrorists to the place. we should have killed them on the battlefield where it was fully legal to do so because they were unlawful combatants. look, we've talked about this. sean, the only way do deal with islamist fanatics who want to kill us is to kill them first. you've got the obama administration apologizing for everything, worried about our strategic table manners. and what really alarms me, and it even goes beyond obama and the obama white house. we've lost the will to win. our enemy the islamist terrorists, even putin, have a greater strength of will. they are determined to win. and we're worried about what the lawyers are going to say. sean, lawyers win courtroom battles, lawyers don't win wars.
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and then you've got hillary clinton, my god, saying we've got to learn to respect our enemies, to empathize with them. respect al qaeda, boko haram? even putin? should we respect people who behead hostages? who really do torture unlike the cia which did not torture, who engage in mass rapes? hillary clinton wants us to respect them. i'll tell you this, had she phrased it differently, had she said we want to, we need to better understand our enemies so that we can kill them more effectively. i would have agreed. i pushed that back in military intelligence since i was there. understand the enemies so you can kill them more efficiently and effectively. but empathy? that woman is not fit to be president. she's demented. >> colonel peters, tell us how you feel?
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welcome back to "hannity." with president obama's comments racism is deeply rooted in america, this country appears to be becoming reaction, is democratic strategist brian benjiman. >> i haven't seen his comments in context, but i think racism is an issue in this country. we've got criminal justice issues to be considered >> the president weighed in on high profile race issues, cambridge, trayvon and this case with michael brown but facts weren't in at that time. he, has a vice president saying we're going to put you back in chains and eric holder says we're a nation of cowards on race. how do you put that together? >> it's hard to have rarely healing when you have people picking at the scab nonstop you mentioned comments, eric holder down in ferg were yous gone a couple days before the
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decision and brought up a decision about a man mutilated by the kkk. you've got democrats in north carolina if you voted against kaye hagan, black people would be lynched. the guy who took german sheperds and fire hoses and used them to attack civil rights violators so you have this imagery, it shouldn't surprise me we can't heal on race. >> can you give out evidence of of that race is involved in these cases? any evidence? these cases? >> when you look at how long -- >> do you see, you start. >> do you have evidence you can point to? >> eric garner and michael brown were on the ground just left, almost for dead.
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>> that is not racism. iets easy for people to look sand say, wait a minute, if that was a young white male we would have picked him up. >> people, hands up, don't shoot eye witnesses said -- >> not all. >> there is everything in ferguson that darren wilson was a racist, i'd like to see it. i haven't so far. there is counter evidence that is that there a supervising sargent there, a black female there overseeing this episode. which i think turned out in apalling fashion but the idea if this was a white supremacist plot it was supervised by a black supervisor. . >> i know there are cops whose job is to give ut parking tickets there are cops the job to go into convenience stores to
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see if there are tax stamps on cigarettes. that is why he referred to as ciggy man. is this a pigger part of this? >> there is a think tank of a show me institute. a free market think tank they said some of the smaller, poor communities in missouri raise revenue by having cops hand out tickets for jaywalking leading to more confrontations. >> and that is maybe unspoken >> that big government. i don't think that is racism. >> in other words eric garner should never been known by the police by name. they never should have referred to him as ciggy man? >> i agree with that. they shouldn't have these highly-trained cops coming out to deal with low-level issues. but, on rudy giuliani and bloomberg this, is a heavy
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police state issue we've got to address. >> quickly, 2% of the people are killed by cops just like a shooting 98% killed by black assailants. >> we've got to go. our question of the day is next. has president obama made race relations better or worse in the u.s.? and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our snapfix app. visit angieslist.com today. ♪
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welcome back to "hab hannity". has president obama made race relations better or worse in the united states? for me, it's simple. if he has eric holder saying we're a nation of cowards and joe biden saying we want to put you back in chains and then a president three-time loser on race relations, that would be cambridge police acted stupidly, or trayvon could be my son or
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russianing to judgment as a constitutional attorney without facts or evidence i understand why people vote that way. thank you for being with us we'll see i back here tomorrow night. 7:00 p.m. tomorrow night. don't forget. "the o'reilly factor is on." tonight. >>s it is hard to read an article and avoid that we live in a culture that hates women, just hates us. >> the article is a fraud. the rolling stone can't back up rape accusations at the university of virginia. we have a history and legacy of people not being treated fairly in all walks of life. >> president obama talking about race on the black entertainment tv network. are hi words polarizing? the human eye will analyze. >> i think everyone is trying to do their b.