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>> i'm tom shillue filling in for greg gutfeld. now let's welcome our guests. if she had a nickel for every time she played quarters, she would still owe her dad money. i am here with joanne nosuchunsky. before the show, he said any snide intros and you are dead after school. so, here is tv's andy levey. you might know him from mtv's "guy code" a show about guys who code, andrew schulz. and next to me is a first time guest. he is author, journalist and the sunday times washington bureau chief. his latest book came outlast po. it is called "dead men risen" an epic story of heroism and war in afghanistan. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> rome stone continues to atone. the magazine revised its apology over the uva rape story admitting that mistakes were its fault and not the woman's. the editor originally wrote of

the alleged victim, quote, our trust in her was misplaced. that line has now been removed. the mag said it should not have agreed to jackie's request no not to reach out to the alleged attackers out of sensitivity to her. jackie's roommate has come to her defense writing in the school's newspaper that she wholeheartedly believes jackie experienced a traumatizing sexual assault. finally on monday, school officials said uva won't lift its suspension for greek life activities at the request of several national fraternity and sorority organizations. toby, you are a real journalist. first time guest here. what did "rolling stone" do wrong? whose fault was it? >> it was" rolling stone"'s fault. they did everything wrong. >> give me names. >> we don't know the names. we know who edited the story and who wrote the story. >> but is the fault on the editor or the person who wrote the story? >> both, but i think primarily

the editor. >> primarily the editor. the editor has to ask the questions. when a story seems too good to be true, sometimes it is. >> aned dore's responsibility is for editing the story and getting it right. their responsibility is to the magazine, right? >> right. >> selling copies and making headlines. they have to walk a fine line. >> the reporter wants the story to work. particularly when it fits a preconceived narrative, you believe it is true and you believe in this issue. you want it to be true. you like the subject, but it is the editor's job to stand back and say, hang on a minute. what about the alleged perpetrators? did they have an event that night? >> that's what would happen in any story you were a part of. that's what would happen. is it the culture of "rolling stone" where it is not a real journalistic magazine? >> it has a good reputation. i have seen great reporting from iraq and afghanistan.

>> they have been making a name for themselves. >> on this occasion clearly there is something wrong with the culture there. clearly there is something wrong with their editorial system. this is disastrous. it is journalism 101 that goes to the other side and check these facts. the thing that started unraveling quickly what "washington post" did is what the "washington posted" dore should have been doing before publication. a 9,000-word article about a subject like this is serious stuff. >> it is huge. you are nodding your head, joanne. is it this story -- this is the kind of story where you are not supposed to question anyone, right? if you seem to question someone who has been abused, is that where the sensitivity came? >> this rolling story gathered a lot of moss. >> yes, it did. quickly. is that why you are noddings your -- nodding your head? >> this is awful for any sexualu

always want to side with the victim. you want to believe them. when there is inconsistencies in a story like this, it is hard to condemn the person that she is saying did something wrong to her. i am going to worry about other victims coming forward and having the bravery if they don't remember anything. a lot of them suffer from post traumatic stress which apparently jackie does have that. you might not remember every detail, but it should have been the reporter and the editor's job to make sure they ironed out the details and made sure they were accurate. >> i know we are supposed to be sensitive. you have to be sensitive to victims of alleged crimes. but this is a huge story and it was very detailed. it was kind of a -- it was a major gang rape that was being being -- you do have to push a little, don't you? you don't have to be that

sensitive. you have to check her story out. >> i think you have to check any story. especially if someone says don't check my story. that is the most important time as a journalist to check a story. if they say please, whatever you do, make these are facts. >> "rolling stone" said we shouldn't have put as much trust. then they said, it is all on us. isn't some of it on her? >> nobody wants to say that because they are blaming the victim. if she gave the wrong facts, those are the wrong facts. we are not saying she wasn't a victim here. she was giving things that weren't facts. she accused people that maybe should not have been accused. when it comes to rape especially , the second you are accused of rape you are guilty in the court of public opinion. the second you are accused. >> but there is no names. >> it doesn't matter. every fraternity guy is a rapist now. anytime somebody said i am in pie kappa, whatever.

are you a rapist. where do you go to school? are you in a fraternity? you are a rapist. if it comes out that she lied in the back of our head we say they probably raped her. >> they followed the duke guys around for years. andy, will you can sell your subscription to "rolling stone"? >> i would, but then they would have no subscribers. >> you like the paper version, right? you don't like the on-line thing. you need the paper. >> the bright screens, the glare, the whatnot. i am in the sun a lot, tom. the glare is not good. i just want to start off by saying i am offended you referred to toby as a real journalist as if i am not. >> look, good for rolling stone for making it clear that the mistake was theirs and not jackie. even if it turns out she is 100% lying it was their reporter's responsibility and their fact checkers' responsibility and editor's responsibility to verify

everything that was verifiable. >> is it bad to say? so was there -- they said it is our responsibility, but we should -- >> they published the piece. >> but what is so bad? >> i don't think you should be able to speak on rape until it is in the courtroom. i don't think any media outlet should be allowed to say we think this person might have raped. the second you say he might have done it, he is a rapist. >> the media reports on alleged crimes all the time. >> it shouldn't be rape and maybe even murder. both of those you have to wait until the police go we are going to indict. >> you just put every newspaper and network -- >> there is no first amendment. >> good! let's talk about puppies stuff. that's why pome watch this show. that's why people watch this show. >> go, andy. >> i think the piece that shea wrote has to be taken seriously. people assume that because some of the facts are wrong that it means nothing horrible happened to jackie that night. i don't think people should assume that. many people report assuming that. i don't want to say everybody

is assuming that. some are i can making that assumption that i think at this point is wrong. i hope that people at rolling stone and anywhere else she wrote are now using a fine-tooth comb to go through all of sabrina's stuff. sloppy journalism like this, i don't think it happens one time. usually what happens is it gets caught one time, and then it turns out that there is a pattern. >> just like men. it is a pattern. >> i have a question. do you think there is any prejudice here in play? you have a bunch of kids who are probably music nerds growing up and maybe they were bullied by the kids who were in pro -- fraternities. >> is that a comment on uva? >> i am talking "rolling stone" and all of a sudden these frat guys who maybe bullied them in high school or college and there is a big rape story and they say i will get these guys back. >> i think you are putting too much into it. >> you think everything is the nerds against the jocks. >> yes, tess! -- it is! >> i don't think that is

entirely fair. you are on to something. it fits the narrative of the evil fraternity guy and that made it easier to not check the facts the way they should have. it fit preconceived notions. it is a jackie victims of sexual abuse -- >> alleged. 1kwr50 -- >> alleged sexual abuse. they say why would anyone lie about being a rape victim? why would anyone exaggerate? if something terrible happened, edge zang -- exaggerating -- >> sometimes people -- there is an element of fantasy and reliving it in their own mind

and nightmares. >> you are saying it could be a not purposeful exaggeration. >> some of it certainly. >> we covered a lot of ground there. was it holy and scwolly or an -- holly and jolly or act of folly. a fraternity at clemson university, go aired varks -- ardvarks, had a christmas party called clemson christmas and makes us wonder -- >> is this racist? >> there were white students dressed as gang members sporting fake teardrop tattoos and throwing up gang signs. after pictures surfaced on social media, other clemson students protested the party which they perceived as a direct response to ferguson demonstrations on campus. racial tensions were already high and the outcry lead sae's national chapter to suspend the frat. the university president released a statement saying the cryptmas party raised

concern about the campus climate. clemson is better than this. we asked one of the fraternity brothers to comment. >> please, defend your heros. >> as you may know, i spend a lot of my free time counseling college women. one thing i always tell them is i usually tell them this in the first session. across the board -- >> it is pro-bono that work you do, right? >> yeah, well, something like that. let's start with the name -- let's start with cryptmas. it is a horrible pun. >> i think it is a play on

christmas. >> i think as punishment that all of these fraternity guys and girls, they should be -- they should have to be dropped off in south central while dressed like that and just have to wish everyone a merry cyptmas and let it be their punishment. >> it was in bad taste. was it a real crime here, andy? >> i am not saying they should go to jail. >> it was in bad taste. andrew, you went on this rant about the nerds and the ducks. i can't even tell which you are. >> that's why i do it. >> i am androgenous. you will never know. >> would you have attended this party? >> absolutely. >> would you have crashed this party? >> absolutely. >> would you have planned the party? >> i would have planned it better because they know crypts wear whriew and not red.

>> is that true? >> crypts wear blue and bloods wear red. west coast, los angeles they started a way to police the neighborhoods because the police wouldn't go there and they became rival gangs. >> i know about all of the thug things. >> how do i feel? i feel fine. there is not much difference between fraternities and gangs. they throw up their hands and doing drugs. what is the difference? >> leads to my next question. bunch of guys, bunch of guys. there were plenty of women crypts at that party. >> who do you think decorated for the party? >> you know, this is absolutely iewfl, boys and girls should be ashamed of themselves. the university does president have to punish them. they punished themselves by

putting these photos on social media. good luck getting that internship at johnson and johnson and the student teaching position that you have really been wanting because no employer is going to hire you. >> wait a minute. how bad is this, toby? it is not like it is native headdresses. they are dressed up in costumes. why is it so offensive to flash the symbols. they are not sacred. they are gang members. >> what is the difference between a gang sign and a frat sign? >> what is a frat sign? >> what if gang members had a party and dressed up as fraternity boys. would they get in trouble? >> this is kind of stupid stuff. young men doing silly things. in my country prince harry dressed up as a nazi for a party and he got in a lot of trouble for that. >> and they probably had a great time at the party. >> it was a bad idea though. >> how does that not get checked. how does it not get stopped?

not one person was like, i don't know, a little insensitive. >> that's why they need andy. they don't have advisors. >> that's why i give a lot of counseling. >> toby, shouldn't we be glad there was no black face? >> that would be worse. >> we have to say there is something good about this. a couple years ago it would have been all black face. >> did you see the mayor listening to all of the angry students around him, he is taking over. >> his quote, we are better than this. what evidence do they have to prove they are better than that? >> both guys weren't better than that. >> coming up, greg thinks i am a murderer. greg isn't here tonight. coincidence? i don't think so. but first, who is in the running for time's person of the year? my money is on me. ç

well, viewers eaten alive are furious some guy was not consumed by a giant anaconda. discovery promised that natural list -- naturalist -- i will call him rosalee. he would end up in the snake's stomach. instead this happened. >> are you okay?

>> and it is not just viewers who are upset. peta says the snake should have been allowed to explain. they go weeks and even months eating meals. paul and his crew put this snake through undeniable stress and robbed her of bodily resources. she was forced to constrict and then not allowed to eat. now we go live to our snake correspondent for comment. >> snakes out there this big. >> andrew, you are all laughs now, but i saw you watching that snake video. you look like hillary during

the bin laden raid. you were so drawn in. >> i was so drawn in. >> do you agree with peta? >> maybe we are teaching the snake something. he should be grateful for the food he does get that there are starving snakes in africa. >> and i don't think he should be eating things as big as that guy. >> if he can eat them, let him eat them. the problem is white people. why are we so board that we need to be eaten by snakes. can't we just live -- isn't living scary -- move to a big city. it is scary. >> this is how we learn how the world works. >> why did the snake have to eat such a big guy. >> it is not your business whether the snake eats a big thing. >> i am concerned about the welfare of the can gnaw con do. >> this is unbelievable.

>> i think he should learn. i am not saying the government should interfere. >> i don't even believe in snakes. >> wait a minute. do you agree with people for the ethical treatment of animals ? >> 100%.>> this is a first, and. >> i know, it is. as i said before, this is like the running of the bulls. i also hope someone sues the discovery channel for being called "eatin alive." the whole thing was a sham. >> it wasn't called digested alive. >> he wasn't eaten. the snake didn't eat him. >> constricting is the first part of a meal for a snake. y was being eaten alive. that constriction was so tight he called for help. you want to see a man die on camera. >> i didn't watch, but -- yes i would have been fine if the snake had eaten. >> it wasn't in jeopardy. this is a stunt. he was never going to be eaten alive.

>> they knew it was rosalee. also when he said my arm is talking i mean who uses language like that when they are about to die. there were loads of swearing. >> didn't he paint himself with -- >> pigs blood. >> yes. >> that added a little element of danger to it. >> i heard him in interviews before this aired and he said he wanted to bring awareness to these creatures that live out there. a lot of people have a fear of snakes and he wanted to show people snakes. i think there are other ways to get people on board rather than being eaten. >> this is how people attack zoos. they attack seaworld. these attractions you can see they are crass, but they make people interested in animals. when people go to seaworld as children, then they grow up to

be the caretakers of the next generation of animals. >> anyone who has abused animals should be shutdown and all of the people who work there including the janitors should be walked -- locked away for life. >> i have gone to these places and they throw fish into the mouths of the orcas. it is fantastic. >> you kill humans. you are a murderer. for you to say this is okay. you have no moral ground to stand on. after going to seaworld how many killer whales have you bought? >> i don't have any -- i think they are fine in seaworld and you keep them where they are. >> you see them jumping in the air and going through hoops. >> i am with you on that. i feel we assume animals are happier than they are. i think they are miserable. they are always hungry and looking for food. very absentee fathers.

>> when the aliens come, they will put you guys in the human zoo and you will say this is great. >> well maybe if they fed me with the under ground fighting against the aliens for the human freedom and the two of you will be siting in your cages happy. >> that is pathetic. >> they are making no sense. >> you know what else it means to animals? nature. it is nice out there for the animals. >> i would leak to know more about the animal. i hear it was a she. does she have a name? what about her feelings? coming up, a gas leak at a furry convention. it hurts lions and tigers tigers tigers and bear, oh my. >> tonight's sponsor is balloons. the popping good time for birthdays, graduation and water balloons fights and

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they were furries or the target of fury. authorities are investigating a chlorine gas leak that

disrupted a furry event and sent 19 people to the hospital. a noxious odor prompted lions, tigers and nerds, oh my to flee the hyatt, a fur fest convention. a celebration of art, lit literature and police found powdered chlorine in the stairwell and believe it was an intentional criminal act. there is one perk of being at fur fest during a gas leak, however. >> we have a lot of costumessers out here. it will keep people warm. >> that's one of the benefits. toby, do you think this could be a hate crime? >> is this a weird sexual kink, dressing up in fur? >> we say it is the fur fest. we should have defined it for you. people dress up in furry outfits because they like it. it excites them. >> something for everyone. maybe there was some kind of feud or gang warfare.

>> the fur, the crypts and the bloods, right? >> there is no discussions of who carried out this crime. >> i am sure they are looking for the perpetrators. andrew, you were laughing. is this the best prank ever? >> i don't know what chlorine gas is. it doesn't seem that bad. >> only 19 people went to the hospital. >> did they live? >> as long as they lived i am not feeling em pathetic. if somebody said oh there is chlorine in the air i would be like, all right, well maybe my hair will turn green. >> they put it in the pool all the time. >> they are dressed up in fur and i don't care and i think they are weird. >> it looks like it was probably one of them. it looks like an attack from within. >> this is not a prank. >> chlorine gas was used by the germans in world war i and used by isis. it was used by assad in

syria. chlorine gas can be lethal. there is nothing funny. >> it makes you really clean on the inside? >> that's it. it could have been fur queda. >> bring it. bring it bloggers. >> andy, you are right. i hadn't thought about this. i was laughing at this as a prank because the people in the furry outfits. >> we are used to that. >> it is terrible. it is poison. >> it was terrifying. we had to leave the hotel. >> who likes this? who are these people? >> it is time for comic-con. it is art and cartoon.

they are fluffy, fat creatures. at comic-con they are all dressed up. these are people in furry outfits. is it a turn on they get from these? >> there is something and someone from everyone. while this may not be my cup of tee, i have other dating websites. i'm sure these people have their own. >> i think you hit it. this is people who are too fat for comic-con and this is their way of saying i am not fat. i am a mammoth. i am not fat. i am a wildabeast. >> look at those fat asses hanging out of the costumes and chlorine everywhere. my theory is -- obviously this was a terroristic kind of gas. there was a nerd who didn't realize how bad it was.

they were try to get everybody outside. this was in the midwest. they are in the fur. they say what a shame we are coped up inside with our fur. >> they wanted to get every hot. >> yes, they were outside. >> they should have seen if a lot of rooms were robbed. >> i don't think they were as shallow as that. >> they wanted to get the furry creatures. >> they wanted to see who was about the fur life. who could take the outdoors. it is easy to be a furry person inside, but when you take it to the streets you take it to the forest. >> we are on to something. do you agree, toby? >> maybe he is head together hot tub. >> what is better than getting into the hot tub with a furry creature? >> i am fantasizing. sorry. >> what does a hundred million dollar cat say about us as a culture? that is the subject of tonight's tonight's --

>> we live in a media-soaked world. we literally have the news of the globe at our fingertips. they are keeping us less informed than ever. case in point, grumpy cat. his permanent scoul has earned a reported $100 million beating out real stars like christian renaldo and gwenyth who earned a paltrow 18 million. new york magazine says her owner has transformed her into a money making mean machine and forcing her to host parties and book signings and pose for endless port retes and star in -- portraits and star in movies. she has six million followers on facebook and an endorse mnt deal with friskies and a movie called

"grumpy cat's worst christmas ever." if cats are making $100 million, we can't take ourselves seriously as a species. our interactions have suffered as distractions have become our main attraction. >> tom? >> what. >> the hundred million thing, the owner of the cat says that is completely inaccurate. >> the owner of the cats? >> you may want to read the stories next time. >> the huffington report -- post reports that the 100 million figure is inaccurate. she is considering how and when to give a full interview to set the record straight. this sounds like a publicity thing. she most loikly -- likely provided additional details to the channel. it does president change my -- it doesn't change my point. people should stop talking about cats.

i think i was deeds on on that one. does it matter if it is 1 million or 2 million it is too many millions to be giving your kitty cat? >> the cat cannot spend that money. you know who can? me. give it to someone in need. this is worse than a stage mom. for parents putting their kid out there this is money that can go in a trust for a kid that they can get when they are grown. this woman is taking the money for no talent whatsoever. >> what about you? >> if i had a cat i would be pimping her out. well my roommate has one and she is not talented. the cat. >> i think making a cat work for you is inhumane. she has taken this cat to hollywood parties and faking -- and making them pose for

pictures. how is this different than letting a snake eat you. >> let me answer a question. people want to spend their hard-earned money on grumpy cat related stuff, that's their business. american people are stupid and they have to be lead everywhere. you make me sick. >> i think it is people obviously should be allowed to do this, but i'm saying as a culture that it shows we are lacking when we are fascinated by an ugly cat. i am not going sit here and listen to you bad mouth the united states of america. >> you put blood, sweat and tears into your book. aren't you an grow this cat has a best seller? >> i hope this cat is being looked after. this cat should not be going to furry creature conventions. it should not go near anacondas. >> it is dangerous. >> is it isn't it

self-defeating? if the cat is making this much money, why is it grumpy? >> that's what we are learning. >> but then it has to do all of these story, these movies and these shows and write these blogs. so maybe he is grumpy about that. >> they say more money, more problems. actually mo money, mo problems. >> i think we had a picture of the girl. she is pretty cute. look at her. she will go into the business. she is using her cat. >> what business? >> show business. she will get a show with her and her cat. what if this were a human being? suffering from swarfism. a 2-year-old with dwarfism and we call it grumpy baby. i am totally fine if you look -- where i grew up if you look a certain way we call you that.

if you were fat it was just fat. not fat joe or fat andy. if you look grumpy in the face you look grumpy. >> what would i be? beautiful lips are wet girl. >> got to you go. gotta go. when we come back. robot cameras. here is what is going on the independence. >> did you hear royal fever is sweeping across new york? will and kate are visiting. are you excited? what have you done in preparation? >> made posters. >> did you get a commemorative plate? >> more on fox business network.

will it be a pop star or russian czar. ""time" magazine" has unveiled the most interesting person list and it is as interesting as it is boring. vladimir putin is a possible winner after seeing him host the winter olympics and invade a couple of countries. taylor swift was included, according to the editor, not just as the world's biggest pop star, but business woman and activist for the value of content. how ridiculous is that? also on the list are the ferguson protesters who aren't

really a person who have, quote, launched a whole new conversation about race relations and the administration of justice in this country. more and more jargon. other contenders are ebola caregivers, apple ceo tim cook and nfl commissioner roger goodell and my wife, denise, for putting up with me. good luck, honey. i am told the winner will be unveiled on something called" the today show." hmm. meanwhile, "time" magazine has revealed their hamster of the year. >> toby, who did you leave off the list? >> i mean, maybe a member of the world family should be on it.

m. >> putin has won it twice before. >> he is influential though, right? >> you want to be controversial? >> they have had dictators. >> stalin on it? >> andy, what do you think? putin and goodell are out of control and they will can sell each other out. the acting lead is only on there to make it seem more serious. tim cook is boring. jack ma's company is chinese, no chance. ebola caretakers, we have moved on. >> i don't like when it is one person. >> taylor swift, i kind of hope she wins because i think it will start a huge firestorm over why beyonce was not

nominated that will be fun to watch. my guess is the ferguson protesters with i will win because it will make the "time" magazine staff feel good about themselves. >> what is your prediction? >> taylor swift. >> i think she is the hardest obstacle to overcome. all of the other people it is easy. ferguson, protest, yeah, we are supposed to protest. we don't want people to die. do you know how hard it is to get people to buy music? >> it is unbelievable. >> guys in time square come up to me, you want to buy my cb and i look at them like they were sent from the past. >> they don't even say buy. they will hand you a free cd and you won't take. it. >> it is true. i won't use it as a saucer for my coffee. she got 1.2 million people to buy music. she deserves to be the person of the year. >> i agree. joanne, she is fantastic and super talented. there is a lot of anti-taylor swift. >> she is a great song writer. singing live, eh.

>> ♪ haters gonna hate, hate, hate ♪ >> i am super jealous. >> when is someone like her, someone young and she is gorgeous been such a good song writer? >> i would rather her than miley cyrus or justin bieber. >> miley cyrus has nothing on her. >> do you really think she writes all of her songs? >> yes. >> who cares? >> absolutely. >> maybe she has a ghost writer. but she write usa lot. >> i have to google it to find out who she was. >> i am telling you a lot of her songs are written by a 50-year-old dude. >> do you know that dude? >> no, but i read article. >> who cares? she sings it and she gets people to sing them. coming up, i interview one of the guests. spoiler alert. it is toy be. and do you have videos of animals send them to fox news.com/red eye.

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heroism. i own 64 copies. he has been with us all night. let's ask him about it. toby, this thing gets going right from the first page. i will read you this quote. >> they might already know it. >> the thing is right on the first page -- first of all, you say this is not the afghanistan you have read about in the newspaper. why? why do we not get the story from the news? >> what i wanted to portray was the reality of it. the guts cnd the gore and the battle shock and the things that lead to ptsd and the heroism, certainly. sometimes incidences of cowardess and not having enough to fight the mission. sometimes you are under fire and giggling about what is going on. it is when the adrenaline is flowing. i wanted to not have a bomb

went off and a soldier died and an x number of at that . were killed. >> you were on the ground in 2009 with the what is it the welsh? >> the welsh gods. i was just reading some stuff in here about these guys. where were the americans? were you holding down the fort? >> yes, this was 2009 in afghanistan. they were hanging on for dear life basically without the right equipment and the u.s. marine core x 20,000 were arriving in june of 2009, almost like the cavalry to rescue the situation. >> and this was the -- was this like the -- >> this was under general mccrystal. >> there is a lot of stuff about ptsd in here. ptsd is -- there are so many people suffering from ptsd in afghanistan. is it because the theater of

war that is there, or is it because we know more about what is ptsd? what is it? >> it has been present in the first world war. it was known as shellshocked. i think the particular nature of this war, the walking along the roads and not knowing whether your next step would be the lost because there is an ied there. there were young british soldiers out there who had metal detectors to look for and provide explosive devices which in all likelihood we are going to have no metal in them at all like plastic and graphite components. absolutely terrifying. >> is that more traumatizing than combat where you are shooting at an enemy? the idea that you don't know what will happen around the next corner dism? >> one of the symptoms is hyper vigilance. they are looking in the rooftops and the trees and all of your senses are acute. so, yeah. >> all right.

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>> hello, everyone, i'm kimberly, along with bob, eric, dana and jesse. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." in less than 24 hours, senate democrats are poised to release a declassified version of a report examining the use of alleged torture by the cia. it's a decision that's going to cost lives, according to the chairman of the house intelligence committee. >> i think this is a terrible idea. so our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths, our foreign leaders have approached the government and said you do this, this will cause violence and death. our own intelligence community