sense of kowtowing to holy men who spread the sheet. see you then. hello, everyone, i'm dana, along with kimberly, bob, eric, and greg. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." the senate is preparing to act on the 1.1 billi$1.1 billiog bill. >> this is a ransom, this is blackmail. you don't get a bill unless wall street gets it's taxpayer cover. i'm enormously disappointed that the white house feels that the only way their can get a bill is

to go along with this and that's t the only reason that they would sign this thing. aimed at reducing tax bier risk. >> pell lows si followed the lead of -- fearing that the bill will weaken a regulation on big banks, meanwhile the president too despite his last-minute phone calls to sway them. what does the white house have to say about that? >> why do so many democrats reject him? >> i think most people would understand that the measure we have in place is not getting every single democrat to support it, but getting enough democrats to support it that it will pass. >> yesterday democrats say it was a principle stand on rolling back wall street reform. last year they said they were hostage takers. >> because they shutther7f4 government. >> well, they tried last night.

>> what should democrats do during these trying times? absolutely nothing. >> if you're a republican, you should simply sit back and enjoy this, people have been talking about the great civil war amongst republicans, that's rubbish. we're seeing a rebellion of house democrats led by nancy pelosi against the white house, rebellion by warren leading the left wing faction of the party against the moderates, and it's a great free for all. >> that bill is not done yet. when you talk about the substance of that in a minute. but first i want to stalk about this issue of the democrats. bob, let me start with you, because it was only about three weeks ago that the republicans won the big election about a month ago. the president is heading into his last two years and already you can see that democrats are starting to look past him and to the future.

i have been a skeptic about elizabeth warren about a possible challenger or candidate, but in the last three weeks i have had people that i trust tell me she's very good on the trail, she rallies the base, and do you think there are enough people on the left that are thinking we need someone besides the establishment candidate of hillary clinton to try to lead us into 2016. >> i tell you what, you don't get a chance to run fo"en the white house, unless you're an incumbent president without having a challenger, somebody is going to challenge them. and if they lose, they get a chance to step forward the next time around and then they get some votes. pelosi is right about this the, the banks almost took us into a depression and they're doing it again. obama is a sellout as far as i'm concerned. and they are depression makers is what they are. >> can i respond to this?

here's the budget bill, nobody's complaining got the fact that it was 1 $.1 trillion except you're they're greedy, that's the equivalent of an armed robber and a pickpocket. can you just roll some more video of nancy pelosi. it is clear that this was taken after midnight because she turned into a pumpkin. the media in this whole shutdown thing vilifies the right faction and calls them -- on the right, they're seen as heroic. >> they called it a citigroup

provision, and actually this bill is not finished yet and there are supporters on the right and the left coming together saying that they don't think this should be a part of it. let's take a look at elizabeth warren who was willing to say we'll go all the way to the mat on this and shut down the government and the media says, oh, my gosh, she's such a hero. look at what she said about a shut yo shutdown last year. >> americans don't want the extreme republicans bizarre vision of attacks on government. the attacks on government are abstract but the effects of this shutdown is real. less opportunity for our children, cracks in the foundations that businesses need to succeed. and a tilted playing field that limits opportunities for all of u ow people. >> do you think that elizabeth warren doesn't think that those things would be true in a government shutdown she caused?

>> i think it was fascinating what was going u9uy÷on, with ma watters now with the republicans, it was just great, great political fear. >> agreed. >> what's happening now is nothing like a few losses and some nervous democrats all of a sudden start to run for the hills, so what you're having is that buy fur indication thir in it's always on the right. hillary clinton on the rifgd and on the far left is elizabeth warren. krauthammer says stand back, let them fight it out. >> what did you say about charles again. >> here's the problem with charles' comment in that bill was funding for obama's amnesty and the far right is really ticked off at boehner for letting that go through. for letting them keep that in their funding bill. that's where president obama

gets the $4.5 million. >> on the technical side of things on that point, i think, kimberly, until you have more power, so in january, what would have happened is harry reid would have put up a clean bill and you wouldn't have had any sort of policy changes, even though they were incremental and very unsatisfying. it also funds obama care which people are not happy about. >> to me, this is just a big shift in the democratic party to a very populous message, i agree with charles, sit back and watch them just wreck each other, and even more impressed at elizabeth warren because she can actually speak out of both sides of her r. woe're saying how great thi infighting, which is really

meaningless, because it's magnified by the media, but when it's democratic infighting, it's ignored because really that's your family, and you don't air your dirty laundry. >> the banks have bought their way into both democrats and republicans. obama got more money out of the banks than any other democratic president in history, and again, they ought to be ashamed of themselves for going inside with these guys. but goldman-sachs has spread their money all over the place. >> they bought themselves enough democrats and republicans to get to the skroet. you have the far right candidatú who wins the primaries, and the republican"$4rz is the one thatt get out of the primaries. which will even the playing field for the establishment candidate on the right has a better chance now.

>> you don't have a liberal wing nearly as strong -- >> it's like run, elizabeth, run. >> you don't have a strong aliberal wing. >> dana's right, the circling of the wagons has been -- -- governor o'malley, of maryland did the same thing on that torture report, she did a lot of things on keystone. do you think that hillary clinton gets pushed into making a decision about making the decision sooner rather than later, because she doesn't want to leave that four months open for them to target her.ñ(l >> the alternative to hillary is going to be elizabeth warren. it doesn't seem to be a choice to me, because it seems that

it's a choice between the name brand and the generic product. >> i don't think there's that much of an issue. >> ask rick perry about the presidential run. >> i think the stand point of the life's experiences, run for the presidency is not an iq test. it is&#bfuz a test of the resoe test of an individual's philosophy, the test of an individual's life experiences. >> what a lame question, it's just so -- are you smart enough to be asking those questions. >> she should have said that. that's the problem with

republicans, they over just not as glib and as quick. >> it's the wrong woman by governor perry, because he was rude to someone who was rude to him. >> maybe they just said what bob are thinking because they don't think republicans are senator enough to run for president. >> i think i agree with that. the democrats are so brilliant. >> where was that music coming from? >> he should have called her on it. >> christy would have. >> god know what is christy would have done. >> i if you have a staffer for a hopeful president scandal, be ready for it. >> people say you are fair enough. >> did you have anything more to say? >> i was going to always go back to my point, we were talking about the democrats, but on the republican side, you have' romney who is not impressed.

he's not impressed with the field which i'm okay with, i'm not that impressed with the fire in his belly. what scares democrats most are republicans who sound and look like democrats. but to eric's point, will that republican in that mold win the primary? >> that evens the playing field on the right. spread it all out. it was on the left. splitting the right, they need more momentum. i think hillary clinton, her affinity for fighting wars, and wall street. she's the wall street candidate. >> remember when she got a little bit of push back from the left and all of a sudden she

said, businesses and corporations don't create jobs. remember that? >> we played it quite often. >> here's an example of someone in her case who's trying to play it right down the middle. it started with her book, there was in that book that was either way, she always tried to find the middle ground. she got out there and she got asked some tough questions and she wasn't prepared for them and she stands behind letting everybody else talk. being a front-runner for 24 hours is tough. >> the clintons say there's not a chance that the rug will get pulled out from under them by the likes of elizabeth warren. >> the you imagine if it happened again to hillary. president obama. >> i can imagine it, i visualize it. >> i just want to thank my colleagues for bailing me out there. okay, ahead, some of the finest lawmakers are postponing

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. law students can delay their finals if they're traumatized because of the protests in ferguson and new york. why would anyone hire a lawyer who needs time off because they feel bad. days after a loved one had a major stroke. there. no snow day for him. i'm still here. the two dozen ferguson businesses traumatized by lolooters, the bosnian, begich, teens beat him to death with hammers, four christian kids being burned by isis for not denouncing their religion. if you want to get so sick that

you'll m)î work. i get it that using the garner case -- your own reputation as a capable person. it saps the meaning of trauma by applying it so liberally. while these students consider the time off, honor the girl on their way to school, getting acid thrown in the face by the taliban to keep them and others from getting an education, they still go to class. these law students could learn something from them. do you feel this way, greta van sustren? i think she is a lawyer. let's roll some tape of her making a very good point. >> would you ever hire a lawyer who when he hears of disappointing news of a case, wants to crawl under the bed and hide because it's so upsetting, or do you want your lawyer to be strong, using his law degree to fight for your rights. no great lawyer who has ever

fought for the rights of others has ever hid under the bed. the lawyer who argued brown versus the board of education imagine if he had said, it's too hard. >> that's a good point. >> it is a good point, i took the law school test and i didn't even get enough score to get it processed. this is so ridiculous, this one thing that i remember is when i got off to school at ohio. it's one thing when you have a bunch of kids shot down during a protest. it's another thing when it has nothing to do with what you're doing. i don't get it. this is all of your liberal things. this is another reason why it may be coming your way, all these liberal guys doing this stuff, it's terrible. >> kimberly, you were a prosecutor and i heard a good one. is this good training? >> it's good training if you want to be a bed wetter and a cry baby, because the attorneys

i know, the defense attorneys and prosecutors, work really hard, they'll go sleepless nights, the whole deal to get it done. that's what you have to do especially when you work in the law, long hard hours, you can't be making any executions, your clients don't want to hear excuses, the state that you represent don't want to hear excuses. the day i took the bar exam, i was in the hospital and i wasn't going to take another four months to take it. i snuck out of the hospital and went back in the next day. >> what were you in the hospital for? >> a kidney infection. i was really, really sick. >> and she passed. >> this is what happens when you don't drink enough water. >> that's kidney stones. we're not talking about the kind of grief over a relative's illness or a family death. we get that. what we're talking about is

almost a tangential suffering. >> by proxy. >> suffering by proxy. >> and no one they knew, no one at the school. two things, maybe it was a test. maybe the law professors are saying, let's see who actually takes off because of the eric garner case, and we're not going to pass them, we're going to keep their grades low. it's obviously not the case, but you're creating a nation of wusses. you remember the book "the firm." >> john grisham. i remember your first year or second-year law firm, you're wokking through the night. >> all the time. that's why i love it. some of that stuff is considered a spa treatment. >> how do they expect to be good lawyers when they get out. maybe they will be good federal lawyers, working for the government. you get your time off. >> i blame the parents.

>> really? >> millennials, god bless them, they've got a lot of great things going for them. i understand all that type thing. but these are kids whose parents let them stay home from school because they were stressed. the parents were like, you can just stay home today, you can take a personal day. >> what about a dog day? what about an issue with the dog. >> can you imagine paying for law school and paying for this and all of a sudden the kid saying, i can't show up for -- >> i can't do it. you're not teaching them a good life lesson to be resilient. it's hard for them even if they have a law degree to find a job. >> were they allowed to take the day off after james foley was beheaded by isis? >> i don't think so. only when it has a tie into liberal ideology, go ahead, think about that for a minute, think about the eric garner case, think about ferguson, think about isis.

>> i think because these grand jury decisions were in a close period of time, they're grouped together. i can't put the new york city decision with ferguson. i can't ---they're two separate things. new york city one, i haven't met anybody honestly that feels that that was the right thing. >> well, it was -- it also was not a race issue. as was ferguson. >> de blasio thinks it was. >> i mean not a little -- he literally -- >> most things are a disgrace. >> he's misguided. >> there's your guy, bob. >> don't go away, new developments in the hacking scandal, next. y'know what my business

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employees and? some cases their kids and spouses too. the breach is so big, it's gotten attention from the white house. >> our critical infrastructure continues to be at risk for these threats, as does the personal information of millions of americans and the administration will continue to take aggressive actions to combat these threats. >> i think there's something about sitting in front of your own computer, working on your own banking, your own health care, your own social life. the internet is the most dangerous parking lot imaginable. but if you were crossing a mall parking lot late at night, your entire sense of danger would be heightened. you would stand straight, you would walk quickly, you would know where you're going, you would look for light. folks are wandering around that

proverbial parking lot on the internet without a thought. that makes it easy for the bad guys. >> it's getting scary. it's almost like his analogy, it's a massive parking lot and there's no light. >> and we're all going to get hit by this. i have one solution, because they're called brute force attacks. when you choose a password, don't choose things that you love, choose things that you hate, because everyone uses names of their children or names of their pet. my password is i -- i hart alcohol massage. the best thing to do is things that you hate. so they can't figure out. i hate adam levine, so my password is adam levine forever.

>> more importantly, they're hacking into, in particular the chinese, we educate them, we teach them to be computer specialists, they go back and they hack us. they have been taking national security information from us. major defense contractors, they're hacking at them. they're hacking away and they're building all these great things that they're talking about, but at our expense because they're hacking the information. >> i think we want to -- >> oh, my gosh. >> get tough with them. i agree. james comey was right. lean on them but don't -- >> the hackers can still hack through your companies. >> three weeks ago, there was a "new york times" magazine piece called the secret life of pass

words. and it talks about how people develop their pass words. it's not hard for them to figure it out. i don't think they're just figuring out things that they love, so a lot of these attacks are of the mass kind, so there's different ways to get in. >> on this particular piece, which is a corporate one, i had an idea about one thing that as a perspective employee, if you're interviewing a company, one question you might ask them is what is your cyber security policy. how protected am i if i come to work here? and that could become a competitive advantage for companies that actually do it well. >> they also get a breach too that's pretty easy to hack into, because you have employees that work into it, and they hack into their employee servers from their iphones and their i pass and their desk tops. the defenses that sony have, and the hackers as sophisticated as they were, they would have gotten past 90% of the software

out there. it's downtowning. >> missiles and fire works, they now have the missiles that they fire -- they're not their missiles, they stole them from us. they should have stuck to fire works, they would have been a lot better off. in fact they would have stuck to me being behind that wall, we would be a lot better off. >> is this an adjunct to the internet? >> why people sit around and think that china is not the greatest threat to the united states is a mistake. >> i think the media needs to declare e-mails that are leaked off limits. >> like a safe zone. >> it would be a nice, unifying exercise for the media to say this is not going to come out. i know it's going to happen to me, i can't even remember 2005. i was not a good person. >> here's the crazy part. it doesn't matter -- you can

delete everything on all of your -- your desk top, your phones, there's four backups. i'm sure every company in the world including fox has two and three backups on -- except for the irs. >> no kidding? >> all right, we'll leaf it like that. >> the next segment is greek. >> all right, up next, the 2015 golden globe nominees are in, the snubs and the surprises next on "the five."

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the golden globe nominees were announced yesterday, with birdman, boyhood among the snubs, american sniper, and unbroken, the amazing true story

about world war ii hero and p.o.w. does hollywood have a problem with films they find too pro military. >> the golden globes are voted by whom? are those the people? or are those the critics? >> the critics. >> then i would say, yeah, i would be surprised to see anything faith based or military based in anything. i haven't seen any of these movies either, by the way. >> you mean as part of your home work assignment? >> that were nominated, i haven't seen any of that. >> dana? >> when zero dark thirty came out, hollywood loved it because it praised president obama. >> is this where we say what we

like? >> you can do whatever you want, it's free style. >> i just finished watching the entire season of silicon valley. do we have a sound bite? no, we don't. but you can see it there. i would do the imtake for you, and make it sound right, but i can't. it's about silicon valley's young kids, that they have a little idea for an app but they just get whip sawed. >> this is a very weird show. >> silicon valley is made by mike judge. he's a recognized genius and this is one of the things he's done. these are people that all right have fame and fortune, yet that's still not enough, they need love from critics and peers. no matter how successful we are,

we will always be hated by our peers. i'm never going to get an award for what i do, i don't deserve an award except for being adorable. my movies first, i picked five, but i'll ended with my favorite. baba dike, which is an australian war film. enemy, everybody i know hated it, i loved it. blue ruin, an independent film about a guy seeking revenge sand does a terrible job of it. the best film for me was -- >> you saw it twice and you don't have a kid. >> tv, i also had silicon valley and what wasn't nominated was

amazing talent is fred armison. >> i share one of you, the leggo movie, because everything is awesome, i love that one. very cute movie, very well done, loved it, so i see the weirdness in greg, nevertheless, he's right, you can be an adult and go see that movie. my favorite performance by an actor goes to jooirk gyllenhaal in night climber. he terrified me in there movie. he's just really scary. >> wait, you watched a movie when you were working out? >> fox is at the same place, but i wasn't working out too it, does that make sense? >> my favorite movie of all

these was secretariat. i love secretariat, i saw it two or three times. >> you have said this same answer every year. >> it's the only show i have been able to see. >> i wish he would say groundhog day. >> i love the house of cards and i love orange is the new black, i think that is a great tv series. >> why did justice system get shut out? >> it was very tame this season, they needed more killing. >> and one of the nominees i also enjoyed, but if you watch homeland, claire danes is carry mathis son, her part is that she's crazy and she's medicated and she's trying to keep it all under control and you watch that and u you really think she's crazy. she's doing an amazing role.

>> i love that when she gets shot, she just keeps going. >> way to give away plot points and she diein ings in the -- ne mind. coming up, men or women? are one of the sexes dumber than the other. there's no scientific proof. i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal.

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are creating more possibilities for more people every day. comcast nbcuniversal. bringing media and technology together for you. let me clarify something. in the break, the tease coming into this segment, are men or women dumber? that's not what this is about. it's about men take more idiotic chances that are women do. some men do idiotic things, women do too. who does it more than the other?

men. ohoh, please. >> we probably die more often taking those chances. and we're better athletes. >> but men are more successful. >> there should be no question that the higher the risk, the higher the reward. -- >> i don't think he really means it, i think he's hoping it's going to get on media. men or more successful than

women and not expect that you're going to get some controversy. >> look at the women around this table. >> you're right that certainly in business, men do take mo risks and that's one of the women in all the mentoring programs try to encourage women to try to take more risks because now that you have all these options in front of you. women in the workplace, you are encouraged to take risk because without risk you can't get rewards. but this is bassed on to the darwin rewards. >> like the guy that wants to be eaten alive by the anaconda, what a dumb guy. >> eric's got a point here, if you don't mind me saying so, there's certainly things about risk, generally. >> all the risks you took in your life, is that so smart? >> the point here is that men do

take a lot of risks, they get rewarded for it, they get killed for it, but they are braver. >> we're not talking about bravery or being courageous. >> i'm not going to talk about the media. i don't sit there and make these generalizations, i think it depends on the individual. i'll put myself up against any guy any dare of the week. >> please. >> this has nothing to do with who is more confident or who is less confident. what it has to do with is status. men take risk to gain status to attract females, that's why the first thing i boy will do is to do a hand stand, or wheelies on

a lot of athletics are designed to show your physical prowess to get women's attention. women claim that men objectify them. we do objectify women. we are riskified. we are encouraged to take risks in order to get the attention of people that we're interested in. so there's pluses and minuses for being a male and a female. >> what did you ever do to get a female's attention. >> i spent way too much time in the gym. >> there is that ma cheese mowe fact, men race each other into highways and kill themselves. >> women are more valuable because if you need to keep a civilization going, you need more women than men. for a man, you can continually reproduce. >> it's a lot of work, don't knock that one segment that's

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it's time now the for one more thing and eric is going to go first. >> it's friday so it's time for -- >> so sometimes the fool of the week is hard, it's a tough call, you have to think of what the person is,hu(e the comment, the

context. this is pretty darned easy. just moments after the cia interrogation report was released, sandra fluke tweeted this. she says, okay, let me read it. she says horrified by the hash tag torturereport and how it mirrors the domestic challenges of #sexual assault. she compared to sexual assault victims to terrorist -- she took terrorism and made it about race. >> tomorrow morning cashing in. greg, you are next. >> i'm on o'reilly tonight with bernie. this is something that should happen more often. city hall at 5:00 p.m., for the

new york police department downtown, it's the creator of vgç there's no race element of this, because we have black, we have white we have hispanic police officers and it's about supporting all of them and it's not such a bad thing to support these men and women. >> do you think the mayor will go? >> i don't know, he might have plans, i don't know. >> this is news to me. the college that i went to is csu pueblo, when i went there there was not a football team. now there is, and they're in the division ii semifinal. so it's pueblo versus west georgia. tomorrow it's going on mascot theory, it's the thunder wolves versus the wolfies and my school, clearly the thunder wolves are going to win. >> thunder wolves are just

wolves with flatulence. >> a very heart warming story during the holiday times, remember that it's not about receiving gifts but about giving them. one woman who was anonymous individual in massachusetts went and paid off all the lay away at toys are us, $20,000 worth. when the people found out their items were paid for, they were in tears. so what an incredible way to spend your money. >> that's a great idea. i have to copy that. >> bob, you're next. >> santa claus every year has little kids crawling on his lap. i want to show you a little montage here, kids, from the 1950s to the 1980s, what they looked like as they went through with santa claus, weren't they just happy little kids? everybody was very excited. okay there it is. look at that.

i don't know, have a great weekend, everyone, special report is next, thanks for watching. dozens of democrats turn their backs on president obama in a split over the budget, both parties on a spending bill that the president is helping get over the finish line. this is special report. >> good evening, i'm bret baier, the old politics make great bed foal lows as we have fox team coverage tonight, ed henry is at to the white house, where the president is pushing democratic senators to get with the program and several are pushing back. but we begin with chief congressional correspondent mike