>> i still like tootsie rolls. have a wonderful weekend, everybody. the number one business block continues with eric bolling in "cashin' in." fallout from the release of the cia interrogation report. america divided over our right to transparency and risking another 9/11 attack. is knowing what happened worth the potential cost? we debate, you decide. plus -- >> if we're serious about the christmas season now is a good time to reflect. >> o, come all ye faithful. president obama playing santa claus and a gift to america, making illegals, legal, should he be using the bible to justify the pricey present. and sony under fire for scandalous scandalously leaks of ang leeli

jolie and eastern president obama. should the american people be worried? "cashin' in" starts now. i'm eric bolling. welcome to "cashin' in." our crew, wayne rogers, jonathan hoenig in studio, and michelle and juan welcome everybody. worried about the interrogation techniques used on the war on terror. the war the bush administration felt hard and well a wamp the obama administration can't even admit to. at what cost? war on terror? techniques that should and should not be used. keep in mind, 9/11 alone cost america dearly, over 3,000 lives lost, and a $3 trillion hit to the economy. jonathan, your thoughts on where do -- that old, that age-old question, security versus freedom. knowing, transparency -- >> eric, this report disgusts me. nothing wrong with torture. extension of the use of physical force. whether or not to use it is up to the generals.

it's the civilian, the president, that sets the policy. sets the values. the value should be protecting americans, and ending the war, period. >> would you agree with that, wayne? >> it's a question i think, the moral question, do you talk about it? that's the real question. they're saying, was this revealed? is that the question, or is it the question of actually using torture? of course, using torture, per se morally is repugnant. on the other hand, revealing it is everybody's concern that by revealing it you'll get the enemy riled up. that's nuts. war is war. you do whatever you have to do to win. >> michelle, if we don't, if we don't do this, and we let the terrorist run wild, don't we risk another 9/11 attack, honestly? $3 trillion. we spent a lot of money after 9/11 just to recover. >> well, i question the motivation behind releasing this report. democrats spent $40 million, taxpayers dollars, putting together this report and releasing at a time we are at

war with isis. these inflammatory details will own motivate and encourage our enemies to come after us. we've already talked about this and discussed this issue and policy. why open this chapter again? it seems as if democrats are motivated by politics more than the -- what's best for the american people. >> right, right. >> right? if democrats cared so much about the suspected terrorists and their civil liberties and rights, why aren't they up set about the president's drone policy killing innocent people, bystanders and children? this to you, juan. another big story this week. the rollingstone piece, literally went into the piece with the conclusion first and then found what she thought were enough, not even facts but enough information to make the piecework for her. this senate, democrat report, put together by senate democrats, didn't even talk to john brennan, george tenet, porter goss or michael hayden, the former cia directors.

didn't even ask what they thought are the report and dlisherred it. sounds like the same thing as "rollingstone." >> not at all. you've got to remember this report is based on cia documents, in fact, the cia was trying to prevent the senate intelligence dplt gaining access to their own documents, eric. but you know, i think you're asking the wrong question. this is a business show, and the reason america is america, the reason everybody wants to do business in this country, the reason our dollar is so valuable, is because of our system of laws. our laws are predictable and enforced and if we give that up, if we allow people to break the law, if we allow people to somehow think that american values don't matter, and that we will torture and -- >> i love how juan tries to -- breaking a law. like we're tortures people who are jaywalking, right? torturing people stealings 20ds from the local convenience store. we're talking about people who dedeclared war, participated in treasonous acts. >> jonathan, allow me to engage

you a second and say, i am surprised that you as a libertarian, conservative, want to give the government power to torture people? because -- >> i agree -- >> that he may take on you next, brother. >> the government is a force. the government is physical force. who should it be used against, terrorists, enemies of the country. we're not torturing -- >> you want president obama or the next president to decide who gets tortured? not me, jonathan. i'm surprised at you. >> mass com x, by malcolm xmt by any means necessary. >> this went on in 2001, 2002, 2003. okay? this, these techniques. >> yes. >> now george bush is being called with his feet to the fire. some are actually saying he should be tried for criminal behavior. ten years down the road, when the drone program, they look back at the drone program, web back in 2014 and 2015, summarily

killing people, sometimes americans overseas. does president obama run the risk of eventually coming in front of a court, a court that says, you've done -- you behaved criminally in the war? >> i don't any so. kill people with a gun or drone, immaterial. doesn't matter. if you're at war, you're at war. you use whatever methods there are to win. do we reveal it, telling something out of, by saying, oh, we did this. and now it's going to somehow create the -- >> that we don't torture ask even worse. it takes an element of fear. the enemies should be fearful of us. to say, oh, no. we never do this. gives incitement to do worse. >> you shut up. you shut up. >> wait just a second. >> you shut up. [ laughter ] >> i don't know whether -- i don't know whether we should or shouldn't, that's a moral question. so we're not having a moral debate here, though, we're talking whether or not this is -- this is going to help the u.s. or hurt the u.s.

that's what you -- >> leave it there. michelle i cut you short. get right back to you in the first part of the next block. by the way, another record week for social media. our view crew notched another high water mark for reach. the 340e69 tweeted word topping eric garn earn and the big conservative hash tag tcot. how big had-it-is in social media. the more frequent the word appears in social media, the larger the graphic gets. coming up, 'tis the season to forgive illegals. president obama using christmas to make his case for making them legal. are you okay with this? daughter: do you and mom still have money with that broker? dad: yeah, 20 something years now. thinking about what you want to do with your money? daughter: looking at options. what do you guys pay in fees? dad: i don't know exactly. daughter: if you're not happy do they have to pay you back? dad: it doesn't really work that way.

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it's the gift that keeps on giving. literally. president obama using christmas to justify his executive action for illegal immigrants. take a listen. >> if we're serious abouts christmas season now is a good

time to reflect on those who, who -- who are strangers in our midst and remember what it was like to be a stranger. >> so, michelle, if you're christian, got to allow in illegal immigrants? >> if the president is interested in playing santa claus, how about this christmas he think answer the american people who live here legally, pay taxes, do not cross the border illegally? think about them and giving them that good economy he promised? we don't see the economy doing well. millions of people have given up looking for a job. 7 million people are stuck in part-time jobs that don't want to be in part-time jobs. why not think about these people instead of the people who came here and brokal law? >> all right. so, jon, i don't know. i have a christmas budget. can't go over the christmas budget. we've been over ours, $18 trillion worth. is this wise to play on people's heart strings saying take in a few more million? >> racial division now, now the

religious division, it's frustrating. in america religion is a private matter. for any government officials to justify a law based on religious mysticism, frankly puts him on the same fiphilosophical plain the mullahs of iran. >> and using christmas and the bible to sell his plan frankly people think is illegal? >> i am just amazed. for the longest time says he's not eve an christian. remember that? i go to jonathan and wayne for stock tips. i'll go straight to the pop. not stop apartment the president. mr. pope what do you think about immigrants? guess what he should say. yes, we should embrace the immigrant community, love our brothers and welcome strangers. how crazy and radical to -- >> and the people, how about the people suffering now. the american citizen? >> tax dollars, wayne, jump in

i. have no idea what one has to do with the other. why would i invoke christmas when talking about immigration? and the same time you're slapping the face of all of those people who came in legally, who went through the process to do all this saying i'm going to open up the gates and let everybody in because it's a feel-good season. it's crazy. >> maybe president obama, jump in, plan the christmas season? how about easter seize ton get carbon taxes through? >> good idea. glad i thought of it. >> stick with the teleprompter. this is what happens when he doesn't have a teleprompter. okay? he should not be discussing this. talking about immigration, why bring in christianity or christmas? >> because it's -- >> the american people are suffering now. think about them. >> it's an appeal to emotion. to eric's point. it you're a christian, think this. america was not found and judeo-christian values. you can't make the case using reason, you can't make the case.

>> and libertarian in on this one. what about the environmentals? if you're christian and care about people, americans, you'll pass environmental laws? >> i think he could have. but, listen, again, he's a politician. he's going to make the case in the best terms for him, but i just can't escape the idea that he's speaking truth about christian values. jonathan says, you know it has nothing to do, shouldn't bring it in. how ridiculous. >> you know america -- america has a long -- >> america has a long christian tradition. >> and religion is a private matter and should not find its way into a government action. >> we have american people suffering right now. >> what do you think happens at the start of baseball games and political conventions? >> your brother is suffering, you don't kick him to the curb. what he's doing. doesn't care about the citizens who are suffering. >> i think juan and michelle, you see, next door to each other. >> that's right. >> what i say to her? this is really going to make her mad.

merry christmas. imagine that. merry christmas. >> a great way to end the segment. fantastic. merry christmas to all of you guys, too. stick around. a big hollywood studio and celebrities, victims of a huge hack attack. why all american workers should listen to this before heading back to work on monday.

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hello everybody. here's what's coming up on america's news headquarters from d.c. in a few minutes at the top of the hour. a rare saturday session has the senate trying to hammer out a deal over that $1.1 trillion spending bill. narrowly passed the house this week. the international up against a deadline to avoid another government shutdown. we'll bring you the very latest from capitol hill. also in d.c., thousands of people getting set for what's being billed as a justice for all march led by al sharpton. protesting recent grand jury decisions involving the police and the deaths of unarmed black men along with allegations of racial profiles. join us for these and your other top stories, coming up in just a few minutes at the top of the hour.

tinseltown in turmoil as hollywood is hacked and sony gets whacked, personal and confident info about celebrities and controversialwhacked. personal and confidential information about celebrities and controversial e-mails. it all started with this movie, "the interview." north korea warned sony not to release it. here's a peek. >> you two are going to be alone in a room with kim. the cia would love it if you could take him out. >> mm? >> take him out. >> like for drinks? >> for dinner? >> take him out on the town? >> no, take him out. >> you want us to kill the leader of north korea? >> yes. >> what? >> so north korea denies it's responsible for the hack. wayne, you're still a hollywood heartthrob. should all workers worry if any group -- i don't know, should we all be -- we really should all be worried about our e-mails, right? >> whether somebody takes a

hollywood movie seriously, they got to be a moron. to the extent that we're all being hacked -- by the way, this extends to the federal government, which really frightened me. they're going to discover everything about you. we're all at big risk constantly from this kind of stuff. >> where are you on this one? there's a school of thought in the media that says we shouldn't be publishing any of these leaked e-mails. if it's not from president. or at least national interest at stake. >> it's stolen property. i usually don't have a lot of feelings for hollywood elite but this is their private property. intellectual property is private property. it's been stolen, just as if they went into sony's lot and walked out with all the servers. the only response is force. whether it be criminal force, military force. this cannot be permitted. >> i think this is really

concerning. this is not just information like e-mails or photos. this is health information. some of the information that came out is employees, the types of health problems they have. the health problems of their children. it's not uncommon for people in human resources to exchange information in terms of claims to health insurance companies. now all that stuff is on the internet. it can certainly happen to people at any company. >> i want to turn this debate and ask you a question. who died and made al sharpton the spokesperson for everything racial in america. the reason why i ask that, amy pascal, the chief at sony, had an e-mail exchange with one of her main producers and in it there was some racial slurs that implied some context to president obama. so they apologize for it. but then amy pascal contacted al sharpton? i don't get that. >> you know, i don't get it either, except this is the way it works now. i think especially among the

liberal elites. he's their point man on all race relations. president obama has blessed him, given him that title because he so hates jesse jackson. i think it's just ridiculous. it shows you how corrupt the system is. while you guys are all on the high and mighty stage about outrage over e-mails, i'm going to take the low road this morning and let me just say her comments about a harvard-educated law professor, president of the united states, as only liking low-brow kevin hart movies, now that's -- i mean, that's outrageous. that's insane. talk about racial stereotyping. >> -- to your browser history and finds some sites that maybe you visited that you're not too proud of. this is their private information. i think it's inappropriate to judge them. this was not for public disclosure. >> any time anybody acts in a racist manner and has conclusions about me based on my race, that's inappropriate? >> so breaking into a home and stealing their private papers --

>> what i think is funny is that these democrat elites are always accusing republicans of being racist. they do this in films all the time. yet here we have liberal elites who are saying some quite racist things about the president. no one seems to be up in arms about that. >> i'm agreeing with you, michelle. >> no, i -- >> the real thing -- >> i agree with you. >> will you shot up? >> yeah, see. you guys should be together. >> you tell her. >> in the same room -- >> no, the real problem is the one you said. why is she talking about al sharpton? he's advising the president of the united states. this is insanity. >> i just don't get it. i don't think he helps the cause. in fact, i think he is more fuel to the fire, the race fire burning in america. coming up, the mainstream media missing the boat on that cia report. we'll remind them who the real victims are. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ push it.

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all right, let's say thanks to our "cashin' in" crew for joining us. head over to foxnews.com to see wayne and jonathan's stock picks. all right, time to wake up, america. the torture report. mm, torture. torture is being the wife of a first responder, watching the towers come down, knowing her husband was inside. torture is tommy mcginnis, mark matroney and 30 other friends of mine explaining to their kids why their dads never came home that tuesday. torture is what the unbearable pain those kids felt standing next to their dad's closed caskets. and the real definition of torture, waterboarding, no, keeping them awake for a few days, no, even feeding them in places not usually meant for feeding, all not torture when you compare it to what these animals did to innocent americans and their families. i have zero sympathy for

terrorists. let me repeat, zero sympathy. brian williams, you should have your citizenship revoked for asking general hayden this. >> what if you, god forbid, members of your family had to undergo some of the treatments we are reading about in this report? >> mr. williams, innocent americans died at the hands of terrorists and you compare them to a general's family? i'm embarrassed for you and for nbc and for those on the right, senator mccain, this goes for you. >> i dispute wholeheartedly that it was right for them to use these methods. >> senator, stop apologizing for keeping america safe. those procedures were legal and effective. and here's the thing. senator feinstein and all her colleagues were aware of enhanced interrogations. now they want to call out the cia. well, we're calling you out for your hypocrisy. see, your weak-kneed response to terror does nothing, nothing, to make terrorists hate us less. it does, however, make america

less safe when politicians like you cry foul for political gain. i'll leave you with this, the next time you feel sorry for terrorists, here's a little reminder of why we interrogate them. thanks for joining us. have a great weekend, everybody. and we begin with a fox news alert. the senate taking part in a rare weekend session on capitol hill trying to hammer out a deal to avoid a government shutdown. hello, everybody, welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm uma pemmaraju. it's all about the politics with republicans and democrats arguing more within their own ranks rather than debating key issues like the funding, the department of homeland security, pork spending, and battling into the night to work it all out. >> before the senate today is a $1.1 trillion bill. full of christmas