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violent end. >> s.w.a.t. teams storming a cafe in the middle of the night as hostages held by a gunman run for their lives. it's happening now. a terrifying end to an apparent terror seige in sydney, australia. the sound of gunfire and a possible explosion in the air. initial reports suggest there are casualties. live fox team coverage and in-depth analysis ahead. plus -- jeb bush makes some moves ahead of a potential 2016 run. but is hillary clinton and elizabeth warn going to battle it out ahead of the race. this point of order is targeted specifically to the dhs funding that the president has announced will be spent unconstitutionally, if you believe president obama's
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amnesty is unconstitutional, vote yes. >> the junior senator from texas is wrong, wrong, wrong. >> the budget passed but what is next for the crisis over the border. it's all happening now. >> a 16-hour hostage stand-off is now over, but at least one hostage is dead. five more seriously hurt in an attack sparking fears around the world that the gunman was inspired by isis. welcome to happening now. i'm leland vitter. >> and i'm hawther nauer. >> a gun man held innocent people hostage for about 17 hours. let's take a look at sydney, australia. it is 5:01 there, 16 hours ahead of us on the east coast.
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it is tuesday morning there. investigators are combing through the scene. we are learning the gunman is an iranian and a self-proclaimed sheik. >> chief white house correspondent ed henry is live with reaction from the administration. >> as you said, the president expected a briefing to happen. one of questions going forward is going to be the details of this investigation, we're obviously still in the very early stages and is there an isis connection or not? recall that it was just a few weeks ago i was with australia with the president with the g 20 summit. he had extensive discussions with the australian prime minister tony abbott. they have sharp differences the president and the prime minister on issues like climate change but did come together in terms of fighting isis. it's interesting because the republican senator bob corker had a hearing last week on the
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threat of isis, he's the incoming chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. he's slammed the president charming he's not -- charging he's not showing leadership in battling isis. >> we want to authorize the president to be able to do the things necessary to deal with isis. i think we're unit nighted there and the reason we're in this cluster, which is where we are, is because the president hasn't really sought that authorization. >> what he was calling a cluster is the fact that the president just late last week finally asked congress officially for a new military authorization to deal with isis inside iraq as well as syria. secretary of state john kerry was at that hearing. he defended the president's strategy against isis bdropped bombshell which is leaving the door open to u.s. combat troops going to iraq or dealing with the situation in syria.
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listen. >> it doesn't mean that we should preemptively bind the hands of commander in chief or our commanders in the field in responding to scenarios and contingencies are impossible to foresee. >> he's referring to the fact that the language in this military authorization use of force against isis is broad enough that it could mean u.s. combat troops going to the battle. remember, that's something the president has repeatedly ruled out, which has brought up a contradiction about what the u.s. policy really is moving forward, which is why at the beginning of january, when the new congress comes in, republican house and republican senate, there's a big battle ahead over this authorization and what it's going to say. >> a lot of options out there. ed henry on the north lawn. thanks. we're now getting new details on the gunman who was behind that stand off, police say suspect who took hostages in a downtown sydney cafe is a 50-year-old iranian refugee with a criminal pass.
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he's been identified as haron monis. he is been identified as also once sending hate letters to soldiers. he was in court as last friday. what do we know about him so far? >> i'm going to get to the suspect in a minute, heather. i'm going to start with federal response here in washington to the seige in sydney. u.s. sources confirmed to us that the homeland security secretary jay johnson, james comby and nicholas rasmussen were fully engage and offering help to the australians. he was born in iran and moved to australia inform 1996. he was known to the authorities and objected to the australian
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forces in afghanistan. the seige is considered a ak of -- act of terrorism. it's worth noting within hours of the seige, his web page with a reported statement of support for isis was taken down. >> it really makes isis in that way much more lethal and dangerous than al qaeda was as far as being able to stop and anticipate these attacks and shows we cannot let our guard down, how this threat is more dangerous and in more ways more complex than it was before. >> counterterrorism sources said investigators are focusing on the suspects motivation, whether he was inspired by isis or whether he was directed by the terror group to act. you'll remember last fall, the terror group specifically gave directions to their sporters in australia and asked them to stay
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in place and behead an australian citizen. we know 150 americans are along there fighting along isis and terror groups and an equal number have been here under surveillance and a dozen facing criminal prosecution providing support to this group, heather. so the question becomes was he inspired in some way by isis. >> yeah. >> i would just say on that point there really is a misconception over this term of lone wolf. it seems to be a way to minimize their connection to islam. a lone wolf is someone who is inspired by their group and their message. does not have a direct order to act. that may well have been the case here and that is what makes these groups so difficult to counteract but it doesn't make them any less of a terrorist. >> certainly. thanks for pointing out that context. as we've heard, intelligence officials are now digging deep into the suspect's background and possible motives looking for any possible connections to isis
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in social media and his communications those kind of things. let's bring in fred fleiss. fred, the one thing that struck me about the pictures that are coming out of sydney, australia, when you watch them, it looks like so much any american city. it could easily be here in new york, chicago, at a coffee shop there as everyone is getting ready for christmas. >> i think that's right. looking at this case, i think it's fairly complicated. i believe the sheik was probably inspired by isis, but there's some unusual aspects of this case. if he was a follower of isis, why didn't he have an isis flag. the isis m.o. i think is to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible. that didn't happen here. there was a hostage drama and also we know that there was some personal issues affecting this person, including the fact that he was in court on friday concerning his prosecution for sending these nasty letters to the families of stranls who --
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australians who died in afghanistan. >> on that note, fred, australians knew who this guy was, he was in court on friday, they could have very easily had him under surveillance. he got a sawed-off shotgun and was able to carry out this attack. fast forward to the united states, we know 150 americans are fighting inside syria for isis. 150 here in the united states are under surveillance. that's who we know about. it seems as though that's a lot more people to keep track of and all that you have to have is one of them, like this guy, who decides to go out and kill people on a given morning. >> well, we don't know what list this guy was on. was he on the just radical list, was he going to protest and chain himself to the courthouse, which he did, or is he the list of people who may turn to violent extremism. i understand his website he changed to become a sunni muslim just this month and he also swore allegiance to isis just
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this month. that could mean he made a major change in his political and legal views, gu given his legal and emotional problems, we condition be sure what was mosting him. >> here in the united states, should we be scared that something like this can come to our shores? this kind of attack points the spotlight on the intelligence community and law enforcement says we know who these people are, that doesn't seem to do much good in australia, does it? >> this was a man who advertised he's an expert in magic and new mexicoer rolling. i think this is the type of unstable individual who isis is looking for and wants to radicalize. maybe it wasn't a major factor behind what he did or something put him over the edge to commit an act of violence. >> we have those here in the
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united states who could be put under the evening -- over the edge under surveillance. let's head back over to sydney, australia. joining us on the phone is the crime editor for the sydney harold. nick, good morning to you. we understand police knew of this guy. do we have any idea whether or not he was under surveillance at the time? >> as you said, he's very well-known to the new south wales police. we don't believe he was under surveillance. he had a personal website which was pulled down overnight which sort of declared that he had only really converted to islam in the last month. there has been a number of suspects, 16 men who have been monitored closely following some terror raids in sydney last
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month and he definitely was not one of those 16. >> he was not one of those. okay. can you confirm for us anything about the number of casualties? we're getting some conflicting information right now. what are you reporting? >> we're reporting one, the gunman himself has been killed and one other hostage. but police we've spoken to are unclear on how seriously injured some of the others are. it all happened, sort of an unplanned attack, a number of hostages ran out of the building this morning in the early hours about 2:00 a.m. and police weren't quite prepared for what was going to happen. >> do we know if he released these hostages or if they manage to escape? >> the indications are from eyewitnesses that watched it unfold from a closer view that these hostages weren't freed. they did escape. whether that was through police operations or through their own
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sort of diffusion themselves to make a run for it when they did, we believe they ran out on their own accord. >> australia has a fairly liberal immigration policy there. do you see that changing? how are people there feeling about how your country is handling immigration? >> yeah, i don't think that this case will make a lot of difference. i think that there will be obviously some elements that will try and use this for that point, but man monis had a prolific history, some of those crimes had nothing necessarily to do with his religion. he killed his wife and involved in black magic and knew molecularology. he was facing serious charges and why he was not being held in
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jail awaiting those charges -- >> certainly, when we heard some of the crimes he was accused, i think it surprised some americans to hear that he was out on the streets. let me just ask you one last question, do you think -- do you get the sense that there is going to be the writing off of this as not being islamic extremism but rather just some crazy guy? >> i think there is a strong possibility of that. i have been in court cases. i've spoken to man monis outside of court on a number of occasions and he was a man who always acted erratically, was -- often draped himself in chains to walk into court. this is not the actions of a sane man. whether or not he was inspired by isis or whether or not he was just using isis as an excuse to carry out his activity, i guess we may not ever fully know though. >> all right.
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liberty mutual insurance. and we are continuing to follow breaking news out of sydney, australia, where an armed hostage stand-off in a downtown cafe there has ended. police stormed that cafe to end the seige where a gunman held hostages for more than 16 hours. there are unconfirmed reports out of sydney that two of those hostages are dead along with the gunman himself. that suspect identified as a 50-year-old self-proclaimed cleric, man horan monis. he has a criminal record and has sent hate letters to families of dead australian soldiers. let's come back to u.s. politics. the former florida governor, jeb bush, now taking steps that many
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are saying shows that he may be moving closer to a 2016 presidential bid. bush says he will real all his emails from his time as governor along with an ebook on policy. he will later give a commencement address to the university of south carolina. in the meantime on friday, 300 former obama campaign staffers signed a letter urging senator elizabeth warren to run for president. so could warren challenge hillary clinton for the nomination or at least force her to move more to the left? let's bring in a national reporter for "the washington post" and a writer for the weekly standard. let's start out, michael, talking about jeb bush. releasing 250,000 emails. all of that. it certainly sounds like a guy who is going to run. >> if it walks and talks like a presidential candidate, i think we know what we have. he's certainly acting like this. he's got people in bush world
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talking to people. there was this political article over the weekend that showed jeb bush has investments, but he's not mitt romney level wealthy. i think that's how bush world sees jeb bush possibly playing in the 2016 primary and the general election. he's a moderate to conservative. he's very popular with the donors in the republican party and he's also somebody like mitt romney who can make it to -- through the primary and perhaps even better than mitt romney did and of course win the general election. his advisers are saying that. i'm not so convinced he's got an easy walk. he said he will let us know either late this year or early next year. i want to ask you something that was reported about your paper about elizabeth warren yesterday. the dominant narrative is clinton is the heavy favorite of the democratic nominee. that story line is accompanied by another one, the heart of the
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democratic party really wants warren. do you agree? >> as you noted, 300 former obama campaign advisers are urging elizabeth warren to run. there is a ground swell of liberal support for her. she came out as a saviour last week in the omnibus. she carried on the 2008 hope and change narrative that so many young people got behind. the worry amongst the democratic, is that hillary clinton seems a little hold, not her age, her name. they want to maintain that freshness that they got with barack obama. >> is this 2008 all over again? we're going to have to leave it there. thank you so much. we've had so much breaking news from australia later today but we appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. >> thanks.
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>> right now, we are continuing to follow the breaking news out of sydney, australia. a 16-hour plus hostage seige at a downtown cafe is now over. the violence this morning having an impact on the stock market today. right now, the dow is down 50. it diefed down triple digits just a little bit earlier. joining us now from our sister network, fox business news. how closely link is the dow being down?
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>> i won say it's most of it. i would say it was possibly totally linked. our asked charlie brady can you give me a chart and the chart of oil prices follows the dow. the dow declined with oil prices. hit its bottom. as the oil prices came up, the dow came up. there was an extra pop when the terrorism crisis was handled. most of it is oil. the dow is trading right now in tandem with oil prices, for a lot of reasons, including traders thinking hey all these oil stocks are going to take it on the chin. that's going to cause it to go. >> this shut down all of sydney. it looks a lot like new york. some guy in a cafe here it shuts down a whole city. >> you don't to reduce the tragic death of somebody, this is a human tragedy. there is an economic impact.
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do this stuff because of economics. bloomberg, the information services firm, in lock down mode. most major businesses particularly in that area. >> u.s. consulate shut down. >> one guy shuts down business in one major city, you don't want to give people ideas, i'm sure it's in their heads any way, something similar happens in new york, that's why i'm hesitant to beat up on the cia. i'm just telling you when we attack our intelligence communities and put them back, these are the folks that prevented this from happening in new york and many major cities since 9/11. >> 9/11 was an economic story. i was at the wall street journal at the time not far from where the whole thing happened. it was a human tragedy. i know a lot of police officers and firemen, first responders. it was an economic impact. they went after the world trade
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center because they thought it would cripple our economy. we could have been out more than a week. if you can't trade stocks, your economy basically shuts down. >> it shut down transportation. a lot of other things. the other issue is the terms of economic effects in a plis i can australia, it scares people. people don't want to spent money. people are worried. >> and it's one guy. that's the scary thing. that's what terrorism does. >> that's why we call them a lone wolf. >> it's a lone wolf, but one person shutting down a big city. small things. that's what terrorism is all about. it has a huge magnitude. there is always an economic bact here. terrorists aim for the economic impact. i'm not saying i'm for water boarding or anything like that but when we attack our first responders, when we attack the people keeping us safe, the c.i.a., remember there's an impact on that. there's a countervailing force
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that comes back. >> huge impact. you would think those guys would need to be looking for the possible lone wolf in the united states. as we heard from catherine, there's a lot of folks closely linked to al qaeda in the united states. in other news this morning. coming out of washington after the senate avoids a government shut down passing a $1.1 trillion spending bill. and next our team coverage of that deadly hoxing seige continues from australia.stage continues from australia. check on a claim...you know, all with the ah, tap of my geico app. oh, that's so cool. well, i would disagree with you but, ah, that would make me a liar. no dude, you're on the jumbotron!
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and as we continue, a fox news alert, we are continuing to monitor the breaking developments this hour out of sydney, australia. s.w.a.t. teams stormed a cafe ending a seige by an iranian born refugee who held an unknown number of hostages for more than 16 hours. there are unconfirm reports that at least two people died, including one hostage and the gunman. the gunman has been identified as man haron monis. a receive identified cleric who is facing criminal charges connected to the murder of his ex-wife. we're waiting for police in sydney to hold a news conference. we're going to bring it to you as soon as it begins.
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joining us now is a reporter with channel 9 in australia. it is day break in sydney. 5:30 in the morning now, tuesday morning there. laura, give us the sense of what it's like on the scene. are police still worried there could be more bombs out there or are they trying to gather evidence? >> i think that threat has definitely passed. we did see a bomb-detecting robot go into the building and a number of officers from the bomb squad also went in there. they are telling us now that they are considering reducing the barricades around the building which indicates the building is fairly safe. we are awaiting a press conference at the moment with our police commissioner and also with our state premier who will be updating that 0 and on the figure as well at the moment. at the moment we have possibly two or three, maybe three people who are believed to be dead as well as a number of wounded, who
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have been taken to local hospitals. there are also some reports police officers injured. we're certainly waiting to try to concern all those numbers. you know, we need the official word on that before we can really, i guess, assess the true -- the true devastation of what's occurred over night. >> a tragedy in every sense of the word. did this come as a surprise, laura, the idea of a terrorist attack inside sydney? we know there had been a warning put out. isis had put out a message that they want their followers to behead an australian. do we now look at that video hostage taker inside the cafe, was everybody completely caught off guard? >> i don't think authorities wrp caught off guard. we have been warn for some time about the risk of attack.
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we were learn of a possible target when police said they had foiled a plot to actually kidnap a person in manhattan place and that's the very place we saw the caves occur last night. i think it's your everyday australian never thought it would happen here. we heard it from authorities. we're told to be alert. to see what's unfolded in the heart of sydney yesterday, and into the -- in the early hours of this morning, i don't think anybody thought it would actually happen. >> laura, when we hear about this man, this self-proclaim sheik here, shake haron who obviously was faced to -- was known to police. wrote these hate letters to sons and daughters of australians who had died in afghanistan. he was in court on friday. is there any discussion all of a
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sudden of in a country with strict gun control laws get a gun and able to take hostages? >> yes. of particular concern, he was out on bail, not only was he convicted of writing those awful letters back in 2009, but he's also facing a number of -- he was facing a number of charges in the courts. back in 2013 he was charge with being an accessory before and after the afact of the murder of his ex-wife. that case was before the courts and he was also most recently facing a number of sexual assault allegations. it was alleged that he had attacked some women who he had been providing spiritual guidance to, so there have been a bit of controversy of late about the bail laws here in new south wales and undoubtedly they
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will be coming under scrutiny in the coming days as to why -- why he was out on the streets and also as you mentioned how he got access to that gun. >> a lot of questions, always more questions than answers in these hours after a hostage situation. laura tunsdale with australia channel 9. heather has more. >> let's head now to christian wieten. he's a former state department adviser. you -- what do you think will be the political fall out in australia as a result? >> i think they will take another look certainly since this man was a refugee. he came from iran a long time ago in the 90s. like many iranians, he was a shiite, at least earlier reports were he was and he became a sun sunni. it becomes a question how to treat refugees, people welcomed into our local societies, what
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do you do to them when they denounce our freedoms? australia is further down this road than we were, mr. abbott broached this topic, having a dialogue on how to counter islamists. >> our ties putting it back here, our hands are sort of tied here because as the federal government has said, fbi agents can't go to mosques to talk to some of these men and women to find out what they might be interested in doing. who is watching this here in the united states? >> well, i think we do have some strong patriotic individuals in places like the fbi and c.i.a. and even though they have been restrain significantly, also the new york police department having been restrained recently by the mayor of new york city from looking at mosques that pose a threat to new york
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outside of the city, go back and rediscover our roots from the cold war. we didn't prepare ourselves to deal with the red army and the soviet nuclear threat. we looked it and challenged it. we see it not just in the middle east but in boston, ottawa and now sydney. so the idea that we are going to find people with a voice in the debate within islam and push back with all the tools of state craft, not just drones fighting a supposedly sterile war a world away. >> we're happy to hear from those folks. we want to break down now the timeline of how this has unfolded. the hostage seige in australia began just about 20 hours ago. this is video of it ending. at 9:45 monday morning, yesterday morning, in australia, police were called to the lindt chocolate cafe in downtown
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sydney. half an hour later, australian tv stations broadcast the first images inside the cafe. two hostages holding a black flag with white arabic writing on it. nearby buildings are evacuated. the australian prime minister goes on national television and pledges the police response will be thorough for what he calls a deeply concerning incident. 4:00 p.m. local time, three men run out of the caves fire exit and run toward police. an hour, two women do the same thing. 6:00 p.m., prime minister abbott the gun man has claimed some sort of political motivation but makes no mention of a terror a -- plot. half an hour later, it was said sensitive negotiations are under way. next update when the police
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commissioner says the priority of the police is getting everyone out safely. 45 minutes later, police are seen putting on night vision goggles and then this video occurs and you see the bangs and the explosions, the gunfire inside that building, and more hostages are seen running out. that's when police moved in, and stormed the cafe. we don't know what happened first or who shot first. now, local reports say the gunman and two other people are dead, and several hostages were injured, including one hostage who has been hospitalized with a gunshot wound right now to the leg. getting that confirmation from a.p. we've been waiting for this morning about the number of casualties thus far. >> you don't know how injured other folks may be too if that number is going to rise over time. another professional hockey player has now been sidelined with the mumps. he was off the ice all weekend long. the closer look at the outbreak that's now rocking the national
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this is a fox news alert. sydney australia news conference under way with police about that 16 high pressure hour -- 16-hour hostage. listen in. >> we must work and talk to our families, i say to everyone, today we must come together like never before. we are stronger together. we will get through this. we will get through this. the events that we have seen have shaken us. is they do not dampen our resolve. good morning, thank you,
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premier. ladies and gentlemen, i would like to now confirm and leave you in no mistake. we're now dealing with a critical incident. in police terms, that means there's a detailed thorough investigation which has already commenced. we need to actually find out what's happened here and what's happened in that cafe. it's not time to speculate or develop theories. we're going to work through the facts and we will advise you as soon as we can. at this time we actually need to think about the hostages. the premier has already indicated those that are caught up in the ordeal, i can only imagine the terror that they have been through. they are very brave people who in many cases were just buying a cup of coffee and they got caught up in this dreadful affair which should reflect on their courage, the courage that they displayed during the many hours in that room. they had to make decisions, hard decisions in their heart goes out to them. i'm sure you would agree. we too share the grief of the families and the pain that they have been through, not knowing
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what was happening to their loved ones and not being able to help them. it's been a distressing time for those families. i'm sure you will agree. to the people of sydney, this was an isolated incident. it is an isolated incident. do not let this sort of incident bring about any loss of confidence about working or visiting in our city. with the act of an individual, this should never destroy or change the way of our life. as the premier has indicated, this won't change our lives. this will not change the things that we hold dear in this country. right now, i ask for members of the community to come together. we're australians, we support mates. we help friends and this is exactly what we should be doing at this time. there's no ways to dividing communities. finding ways to heal the wounds, to help everyone grow stronger because we all want a stronger australia. i would like to commend the work
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of our police, everyone might second guess what occur in the last hours. they are the one had to make the decision. it was tough, exacting work. whether they are on point or had to deal with the situation. i want to point out they have saved lives. they have saved many lives and to those men and women, all that were involved, we thank you. as your commissioner, i thank you, but as a community, i'm sure, australia thanks you. thank you to put your life on the line to keep us safe is a very honestly rabl -- honorable cause and for that our gratitude goes out to you. i can indicate to you that we have accounted for at this stage 17 hostages. that includes the five that escaped yesterday and a number that have been caught up with some with traumatic injuries,
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some with medical conditions. we have, as you have reported, two deceased amongst the hostages. and six that were uninjured. we also have a uninjured. we also have a lone gunman who has been shot and killed and we have a mild police officer injured as a result of a gunshot wound to the face. i talked to that officer. he is in good condition. he has certainly been assessed and remain in hospital for some time, not too long, we hope, but he is well and grateful to be alive, let me assure you. that, ladies and gentlemen, is where i'll hand it over to you for questions. >> commissioner, if i can ask, the decision to make that entry, why was it made at that particular point? >> well that's a decision that was made by the teams responsible. these are the experts. what we don't do is compete with those that have to make that call them make the call because they believe that at that time if they didn't enter, there would have been many more lives lost.
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>> why did this happen? why do you think [ inaudible ] what had changed [ inaudible ] >> well, i think that events were were unfolding inside the premises led them to beet leave that now was the time to actually deploy and they did. >> [ inaudible ] >> i'm certainly not in a position to confirm that as i said, now not the time to second guess or speculate. this is a critical incident. we will go through this investigation. we need to get it right. we have talked to the coroner, must understand the coroner has jurisdiction and work with the coroner at this stage. there is much to be done. >> i appreciate it, sir. >> was the gunman on [ inaudible ] >> at this stage, i'm not going to go into that. right now, we are dealing with this critical incident, our thoughts and particularly turning our minds, looking out for these hostages and the families of those caught up in this and of course, we have -- we have two that have died as a result of actions inside that cafe and we are particularly trying to make sure that we are there to comfort those families.
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at this stage. >> i -- at this stage, i'm not going to go into that. we are turning our thoughts to the host alps and the families of those caught up in this and of course, we have two that have died as a result of actions inside that cafe and we are particularly trying to make sure that we are there to comfort those families. >> where are the uninjured hostages and how are they being taken care of at this point? >> can you repeat that, please? >> the uninjured hostages, the ones that aren't in hospital. where are they and how are they being taken care of? >> they are part of this investigation. we need to talk to them. they are being looked after in terms of their psychological needs at the moment. we will then work with them but at this stage, they have been well cared for. >> [ inaudible ] families? >> families certainly involved in this process. >> i appreciate it's a critical incident, but do you know whether the host alps were killed by the gunman or -- >> again, as a result of an exchange of gunfire inside that
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premises, police moved in and at this stage, as i've indicated, we have a number of people that are injured. >> obviously well known to police. what was -- when was the last contact that police had with him [ inaudible ]. >> again, that's -- that's part of what will come out once we go further into this, but at this stage, we are not going to enter into that. sorry. excuse me. >> the escalation of the actions inside [ inaudible ] >> look i have got no -- >> criticized for the [ inaudible ] in the past. [ inaudible ] >> well, i'm concerned that there was a vicious, horrendous attack that has taken place in the heart of our city and there are many questions that we will
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come in coming hours, days and weeks. what i can assure you is i will answer every single one of them. we will get to the bottom of events and we will do everything possible to ensure we do not see it happen again in the city what we saw in the last 24 hours. >> [ inaudible ] >> at this stage, i can assure you that that particular premises has been secure and at this stage, we have no explosive devices that have been found. >> can you at least -- the treatment that the hostages felt in the siege, how -- were they treated well or any indication of that? >> well, at this stage, rather than go into that, until we were involved in this emergency action, we believe no one had been injured. that changed. we changed our tack.
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>> [ inaudible ]. >> we will be talking to you later through today and give you more information. again, we will not compromise this investigation, it's important that we get this right. of course, the other issue that we always need to be mindful of is rather than give you some information for the sake of giving you some information, we want to make sure that it's accurate. so, when it's accurate and only when it's accurate, will we release? okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> we heard there the police from new south wales in australia, effectively the state where sydney, australia, is, talking about how there was gunfire inside the premises. that's what caused the police to actually go in and their s.w.a.t. teams, they believe that more lives would have been lost had they not gone in when they did. they confirmed that three people are dead, including a 34-year-old woman, a 30 --
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excuse me, a 34-year-old man, a 38-year-old woman and then also the gunman, who was 50 years old. >> at least one police officer injured with what they described as a gunshot wound to the face occurring there during that s.w.a.t. raid that happened now just about three hours ago. it was interesting, when you watch that press conference, what wasn't said about this standoff. the word terrorism was never mentioned. it was called a vicious and horrendous attack and idea of islamic terrorism was never mentioned despite the fact that we know he is an radical islamic and made the hostages hold it up. >> an isolated incident, gonna go to a break right now. we will be back in just a second. you're driving along,
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ago. >> the real story with gretchen carlson starts right now. >> see you back here tomorrow. >> hi, everyone, i'm gretchen carlson, here to bring you the real story today you just heard from police in sydney, australia, giving some new details about the gunman taking over a busy cafe early monday morning in australia's biggest city and forcing hostages to raise a muslim flag from the windows. two hostages and the gunman killed in that terror attack out of some 17 hostages captive for the duration of the standoff. no explosive devices found at the scene. police say the iriranian-born man was a self-proclaimed sheik on their radar some time and this is an isolated incident,s standoff coming to a spectacular violent end 16 hours after it began.
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