nescience when writing to the factor. again, thanks for watching tonight. ms. megyn up next. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops here. we're definitely l you. breaking tonight, the obama administration weighs in on part one of our exclusive interview with the man who watterboarded the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. wait until you hear what he says in the final part of this dramatic story. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly in washington tonight. we first learned james mitchell's name earlier this month after senate democrats released a report slamming the interrogation program. >> the cia's actions a decade ago are a stain on our value and on our history. >> the senate report singled out the two cia contractors who helped develop the controversial

program attacking both their motives and their methods. the report used pseudonyms swaggart and dunbar. but they were quickly identified including dr. james mitchell as swaggart. they were not fit for the job, writing, both swaggart and dunbar had been psychologists for the u.s. air force, neither had experience as an interrogator, nor did either have specialized knowledge about al qaeda, a background in terrorism or any relevant regional, cultural or linguistic expertise. they did not speak with the men about any of that. who is dr. james mitchell? before working with the cia, he served as a u.s. air force psychologist and helped create a program through which thousands of military personnel learned how to survive and resist interrogations. and the following is critical to understanding why the cia needed this help. in 2002, the cia asked mitchell to review a document that english police had found in the home of an al qaeda suspect.

they called it the manchester manuel. it contained information stolen from the u.s. army. and al qaeda was using it to teach jihadists how to resist interrogations. in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, as the cia began to capture terrorists, it went back to mitchell to help devise and manage an interrogation program. and ultimately, it asked him to do the interrogations. among those mitchell was asked to interrogate khalid sheikh mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11. just 72 hours ago dr. mitchell could not talk about any of this, telling vice news his nondisclosure agreement limited what he could say. >> you know, i'd really like to respond to those questions, but i can't. i have a nondisclosure agreement. until i'm released from that, i can't answer those kinds of questions. >> but now, he is talking, to fox news.

speaking to "the kelly file" last night he confirmed his involvement in the interrogation of ksm. khalid sheikh mohammed. you walked into a room with khalid sheikh mohammed. >> yeah, i was the -- yes. yes, i did. >> what condition was he in? what was he wearing? how was he restrained? >> i don't think he was wearing anything. but in general, what i remember about those first interrogations was that he was arrogant, that he was a mentally arrogant. >> did you feel like you were in the presence of evil? >> well, i felt like i was in the presence of an evil man, that's for sure. >> when you're waterboarding ei understanding what he is and what he did, does this person's humanity, whatever amount of it there is, factor in at all? are you conscious of it? >> those techniques are so harsh that it's emotionally

distressing to the people who are administering them. but even though you don't want to do it, you are doing it in order to save lives in the country. khalid sheikh mohammed has the opportunity to address the charges against him, but i don't. that's why i'm angry about this. they have a foregone conclusion. they put my life in danger. they put the lives of other cia personnel and our families in danger for some sort of moral high ground? >> we've been trying to get you on the program for a week now. you finally over the weekend said you'd do it. what changed? >> when you first started calling me, to be candid with you, i was very upset. i just -- i wasn't ashamed that i had been involved in the program. i'm proud of the work we did. we saved lives. they told us we did a good job, they told us we saved lives, i believe that we did. in fact, khalid sheikh mohammed told me personally, your country will turn on you, the liberal

media will turn on you. the people will grow tired of this. they will turn on you. and when they do, you are going to be abandoned. for me, i don't want to die because the democrats in the senate don't have the courtesy to ask the cia to explain what they view as abuses that occurred when there's other evidence, 6 million documents, and they cherry picked what makes their point out of it and put us in danger. >> and now more with dr. james mitchell. dr. mitchell, take us back to when the program first began and the mind-set of the cia and the interrogators who were actually charged with performing these enhanced interrogation techniques. what was the belief about the threat to the country? >> well, they had ongoing information that suggests that they were trying to smuggle nuclear weapons into the united states. so there was credible evidence to suggest that there was another wave of attacks coming.

and we couldn't have it happen. they tried to decapitate us the last time. they tried to destroy our civilization, and people were clamoring to do anything and everything they could that was legal to take it right up to the line and save american lives because that's what our government is supposed to do, save american lives. >> how much pressure did you feel you were under? and how was it communicated to you? >> well, there were times, literally, when i was told that i'd lost my spine, that i'd become weak, that i must be starting to like these terrorists because i wasn't willing to ramp up the pressure. you know what happened is once that information -- those complaints got back to the people in charge, they very quickly moved in to put into place procedures so that when the folks in the field -- for example, they put in a procedure so that they wouldn't just willy-nilly start waterboarding

people, because we were getting tremendous pressure from some folks to waterboard people that it wasn't necessary to waterboard them. so the management, the leadership, the people in charge like jose rodriguez very carefully took charge of that right away. i think the leadership -- i think faulting the leadership is wrong. >> now, one of the criticisms in the senate report done by the democrats is that you -- first they claim that you made $81 million on this program, and they claim that one of the problems in having you do it, doing the enhanced interrogations was there was a built-in incentive for you to do more. >> the notion that i personally profited $81 million highlights the way they're trying to distort things. that was a commercial contract. it was let under government law. they put out a statement of work, i thought it was going to be an open bid. we bid on it as an open bid. they made it a sole source. it was evaluated to see whether the costs were reasonable.

we made a bid in response to what they asked us to do. and it involved providing a lot of people who were embedded into that organization under the command and control of cia officers and leadership. >> one of the other things the senate dems say is you are not the right man for the job because you had no experience. they make i it sound like you were basically a hack who didn't know what he was doing who was asked to waterboard these prisoners despite the fact that you had no experience in waterboarding and you hadn't undergone waterboarding in your air force training. >> the notion that i hadn't had the proper experiences was dispelled by the cia themselves when they replied to it. on page 11 of the cia reply to that report, they say, he had the skills we wanted and listed them. >> one of the things the democrats say is that there is evidence that the program did not work, that the intel you guys got from these guys in

waterboarding them, et cetera, could have been gotten other ways and was, in fact, in hand despite or prior to those enhanced interrogation techniques. your thoughts on that? >> it was clear that that program produced results. it's very easy in hindsight when you're not in the reality of the moment, when you don't have all of those pressures, to sort of look back from 2014 and see how the dots can be connected, sort of like people did after 9/11, when they second guessed what people were doing in realtime. you can look back and -- and then you can, you know, pretend that you're cleverer than they are. and it's much different going in the other direction, and what i would say is that it doesn't matter what they could have used that you can see now that the smoke has cleared and you've got five years to look at it. it matters what they did use in realtime when lives were on the line and they were doing the best job they could do.

and in my view, the cia analysts and the cia targeters are incredible. and to do this, to besmirch them is i think beyond the pale. you can see it irritates me. >> let's go back to the interrogation of khalid sheikh mohammed. how does it work? the good cop, bad cop scenario. >> the bad cop goes in there and induces, you know, fear and panic, say, with the waterboard and does it in such a way that the person wants to avoid the waterboard the next time. and as you are ending that session, you say to them, the next time we come back, we're going to ask you about this. take the time that you have, pull yourself together, give some thought to this and if we can discuss this the next time, this won't happen again. then like many people who have

phobias, and that's just an analogy. we're not saying we induced a phobia. but many people that have phobias, like dental phobias, the closer you get to a dental appointment, the more you try to get out of it, right? so that's the point at which the person begins to provide information. and if they begin at that point, there is no mention of enhanced interrogations in that intel because they weren't used. you don't use them. so the point was to shift the person's priorities with the bad cop so that they engage with the good job to avoid this other thing. it wasn't to stand there over them pour water and say, tell me where bin laden's courier is. you get all kinds of crazy answers like that. you know, when they say you can force a person being waterboarded to say anything, that's absolutely true. you ask leading questions and you hiurt people and they'll sa anything to get it to stop. that's not what the cia did,

that's not what i did. >> was it torture? >> not in my mind. if it was torture, i would be in jail. this thing was investigated over and over and over. i was told by the highest law enforcement agency in the land that we were going to walk right up to the edge of the law and that all the things that we had included in that list were legal. so in my mind -- and i know there's this controversy about whether -- can i just say -- >> did it feel like torture when you were doing it? >> you know what, ma'am, i felt like i was doing my duty. i didn't like it. i didn't enjoy it. i wasn't thrilled by it. i found it repulsive at times. but i sucked it up and did my duty to keep people from dying. >> up next, the white house faces tough questions on our exclusive with dr. mitchell. >> james mitchell says that the

way it's been set up by the administration khalid sheikh mohammed has the ability to answer the charges against him, the terrorist can answer the charges against him, but james mitchell didn't even get a chance to respond to the senate intelligence report, didn't call him, didn't get his side of the story, isn't that sort of un-american? >> watch how the white house handled that and mork when marc thiessen joins us in businesses. senator rand paul is here on breaking stories including a devastating terror attack on school children. here's a question for you: when electricity is generated with natural gas instead of today's most used source, how much are co2 emissions reduced? up to 30%? 45%? 60%? the answer is... up to 60% less. and that's a big reason why the u.s. is a world leader in reducing co2 emissions. take the energy quiz -- round 2. energy lives here.

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if he says that they didn't, i'm not here to contradict him. >> he knows very well that they did not speak with james mitchell. they didn't speak with anybody from the cia. ha was, of course, our chief white house correspondent ed henry today following up on our exclusive with james mitchell. on the democrat cia interrogation report that you've heard about tonight and last night. they asked why the mastermind of 9/11 was asked to tell his side of story in custody and in court when senate democrats who wrote this report never once reached out to mitchell for his side before condemning him. joining us now, american enterprise institute fellow and author of "courting disaster -- how the cia kept america safe." marc thiessen. one of the things mitchell told me -- first of all, he knows that they didn't speak to him. >> they didn't talk to jose rodriguez, mike hayden, george tenet. we spent all this time

criticizing "rolling stone" for not talking to the people you're accusing and dianne feinstein did the same thing as "rolling stone." >> one of the things that mitchell said to me was that khalid sheikh mohammed turned to him during the interrogation and se head at some point the american people will turn on you. he said the liberal media, this is a quote from ksm, according to mitchell, the liberal media will turn on you and the people will turn on you. when they do, you'll be left all alone. >> the good thing is that people haven't turned on him. and the polls today show that dianne feinstein has utterly failed in her objective with this report. her goal was to convince the americ interrogation tactics were wrong, that they didn't work, and they should never be used again. the polls actually show that the vast majority of americans side with the cia. they think the tactics worked. they think she new not have released the report and 70% would do it again. >> the cia was not consulted in the drafting of this report, no

republican participated in the drafting of this report. it was completely one-sided yet still the american people are against her. >> because the american people have a good inner gyroscope. they understand what happened on september 11th. james mitchell when he was sitting face-to-face with khalid sheikh mohammed the other thing that khalid sheikh mohammed said to him what other attacks are coming and he said soon you will know, and americans are weak and decadent and don't have the will to do what's necessary to stop us. imagine if he had not done everything to get him to talk and another attack happened and ksm said i knew that and i withheld that from you. how could he live with himself? >> you know the answer from the other side, this is a moral principle for the country and that this is torture, that this is torture. waterboarding is torture. >> no it's not. for one thing we've waterboarded tens of thousands of american servicemen and it would be against the law to torture our

own troops. here's a fun fact for you. mr. are more journalists that have had themselves waterboarded than terrorists who have been waterboarded by the u.s. government. >> our own steve harrigan went through it. >> that's right. commonsense definition if you're willing to try it to see what it feels like, it's not torture. i don't see any of those journalists having themselves burned with hot irons or being electrocuted or teeth drilled -- >> but isn't there a difference between a journalist and a military person saying it will end when they say it will end. ksm also knew how long they were going to do it and that it was going to end. >> that's not what broke him, actually. it was sleep deprivation that broke him in the end. and if an american serviceman was going through and having his legs burned with hot cigarettes or being electrocuted or some of these other tactics, it wouldn't matter if they knew if the

experiment was going to end, it was fear of physical pain and suffering. >> what about that these interrogations produced nothing useful? >> here's a good test for senator feinstein, if that is true, then pass legislation ordering cia to destroy all the intelligence. there are thousands of interrogation prorts that have been produced that we are using to this very day. barack obama is using intelligence from cia interrogations. just two weeks ago al qaeda operational commander, was killed in pakistan. you know how we found out who he was? the interrogation of abu zubaydah and ksm. they identified him. barack obama is using this intelligence. this produced nothing? go ahead and destroy all the intelligence. they'll never do it. >> that's an interesting test. still ahead, senator rand paul. plus disturbing news just ahead of the holidays. catherine herridge is next on a terror plot that has u.s. officials on alert. and laura ingraham is here after

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breaking tonight, disturbing news just ahead of the christmas holidays. u.s. counterterrorism officials now on high alert over reports that al qaeda-linked groups are not only hoping to blow up several airliners but that a prominent bombmaker linked to other holiday terror plots may be alive and well despite reports that he was killed in u.s. air strikes. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live here with more. >> the head of the tsa told fox news that the threat is worse than it was when he first took the job. >> with that being said, we also have better insights into who the potential bombers are. >> the u.s.-led bombing campaign

against isis and the al qaeda-led course in syria. he specializes in nonmetallic bombs that traditional airport screening can miss. >> without going into detail about what that they look like from a classified intelligence perspective, we remain concerned that there is active plotting going on. >> that's why procedures implemented in july requiring passengers to turn on their phones and computers remain in place. the tsa administrator also described a new classified program that tracks foreign fighters based on their travel history before they check in for u.s.-bound flights. pistole was also in australia days before the hostage situation unfolded in sydney. he says it fits the classic profile of a lone wolf attack. >> i'm not aware of any intelligence about it as of last week. there was no talk about it. >> pistole says the lone wolf

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breaking tonight, terror around the globe. over the past 36 hours we have witnessed a pair of horrifying attacks. the latest an act of

incomprehensible evil against children in pakistan. taliban fighters all said to be wearing explosive vests storming a school earlier today with what appears to be one goal in mind -- murdering as many innocent people as possible. we understand they fired indiscriminately as they entered the building. reports even suggesting that a teacher was burned alive in front of the students. by the time it was all over, more than 100 were reported injured. 132 children were killed and 9 staff members were also dead. one parent telling the associated press his son was his dream and now his dream has been killed. it, of course, follows another deadly attack on holiday shopper in sydney, australia. two people were killed there. and all of this comes as president obama tells our troops that their role in the world has reached a turning point. listen. >> we've now brought home about 90% of our troops, 90%.

the time of deploying large ground forces with big military footprints that engage in nation building overseas, that's coming to an end. and going forward our military will be leaner. >> our chief white house correspondent ed henry reports now from the white house. >> good evening, megyn. secretary of state john kerry called these images from pakistan just gut wrenching. as you noted some teachers burned in front of their students. students killed, dragged out, their dead bodies dragged out in ambulances and the gruesome business of those funerals of young students already beginning. you can see these terrible pictures. in a written statement the president did not mention the taliban by name, instead just saying the terrorists showed depravity with this attack. while at the white house podium josh earnest, the spokesman was very careful to stress the afghan taliban was not involved, that this was the pakistani taliban. the reason why is administration

officials may be sensitive to just how bad the violence is in this neighborhood, both countries right now, because as you say, it happened just hours after the president said u.s. combat operations in afghanistan are ending at the end of the year. the president's aides are making the case that the afghan government is stabilizing, but remember they made a similar case about iraq at the end of 2011. listen. >> almost the same words you just said about afghanistan. and then it collapses, isis goes in and fills the vacuum. how worried are you we're going to have a replay? >> ed, i do thing this highlights a key difference from the strategy that this president's pursued that was pursued by the previous administration. no longer can the united states be in the situation where we're doing it for the host country. in the situation with iraq, they were left a stable and peaceful country. >> now, we should note that the afghan taliban did condemn this attack as, in their words, un-islamic. the group does share roots with the pakistani taliban.

we should also note that attacks from the afghan taliban on that side of the border have also been increasing in recent days, so there's real questions moving forward about what the future holds in afghanistan, megyn. >> ed, thank you. joining me now kentucky senator rand paul. he's a republican and member of the senate foreign relations and homeland security committees. good see the you tonight. >> glad to be with you. >> so horrifying to think about what happened there. >> just kind of reminds you of malala being shot point blank for the crime of wanting to get an education. to me just so hard to fathom, but i think also illustrates that ultimately this has to be civilized. islam needs to step up and say, we're going to take care of this. and it's a long, long war. that's probably where the president's wrong where he thips things are over, everything's fine. but in reality this is something that's been going on a thousand years and probably goes on a long time. >> you think that's the answer? civilized islam? >> absolutely. civilized islam has to step up

and be part of the answer. because whenever we try to fix the problems over there, they see us as the infidel and no end to the amount of enmity that will continue. but they have to stand up and say this is an aberrant form of religion and doesn't represent our religion. >> iraq, we left and there was a vacuum. civilized islam didn't exactly stand up there, but if they had, one wonders if there would be any effect. should the u.s. military maintain some role? >> i think there's a supportive role. but the people who need to stand up and fight are the iraqis. the kurds are standing. you of all the people in the area the kurds will fight. rather than give the weapons to is so-called moderates in syria, we ought to consider giving the weapons to the kurds. we've armed the iraqis quite a bit. they do need to stand up and fight and that's the question. i've said repeatedly i'm not willing to send ground troops back in there, i'm not willing to send my kids back in for cities that the iraqis are

unwilling to fight for. >> what are we seeing from around the globe, the lone wolf terror attack and to a woman being beheaded down in oklahoma, to what we see in jerusalem, israel, now sydney, australia, now pakistan school children, at a time when the president said the world is less violent than it's ever been. that could still be true, but is it? >> there's still evidence to indicate the president is wrong and just doesn't quite understand the situation. this is a long war. been going on a long time, a thousand years, between the sunnis and the shiites. civilized islam needs to up. >> is the president doing the right thing, telling them to stand up, speak out, encouraging them to do what you're saying. >> even george bush said

somewhat of the same thing. he made a point to say we're not attacking islam. this is not a religious war against islam. there are a billion people who belong to the islamic faith and this is a small minority. unfortunately, 5% or 10 pr% of billion is still a big number. that's the problem. we're talking about a movement that might involve millions of people, maybe 50 to 100 million people, but still the vast majority of islam doesn't believe this is the right way to go. so we do have to appeal. people might not like it. they say that's weak, but we do need to appeal and we do need allies. the iraqis, their faith is islam. the kurds' faith is sunni islam. so we do need all of their help. the war is only won by the people who live there. >> let's switch gears. today a potential presidential contender, jeb bush, announced he'll actively explore the possibility of running for president in 2016. he said he hasn't made a final decision, but this is a much

bigger step than he's taken thus far. you have not gone that far yet saying maybe six months. some people are saying, come on, senator, make a decision. why is jeb bush out ahead of you? >> well, maybe he has more ground he needs to gain. he's been out of this for a while. so maybe he needs to get back in and practice up a bit. i don't know. i can't determine why other people -- i just know what i'm going to do. >> so six months out? >> wait a few more months, yes. >> you said that nobody who has said that they're for common core could win the republican primary. that seems to be a direct shot at him -- >> but it would be very difficult. most of us believe in less federal government and more decentralized government. particularly with education. you know, ronald reagan ran on the platform of getting rid of the department of education. we've always believed in decentralized education. so for jeb bush to run in the primary will be very, very

difficult because if you're going to be for a national curriculum and for common core and no child left behind, this accumulation of power in washington, that's not very popular. it's going to be an overcoming -- >> now the president's surgeon general. he's been confirmed in the democrat controlled senate, which it will be for a while longer, he's now our surgeon general and you've had major concerns about him. why? >> this will be the first surgeon general we have who thinks it's his job to bash the bill of rights. he spent a great deal of the last several years bashing guns and calling them a health issue. i really don't think we need a doctor paid for by the government who is going to stand up and lecture us on the bill of rights and that he wants to limit the second amendment. so we're putting him on notice, if he decides to use the government position of the surgeon general, which can talk about health, smoking, weight, exercise, all of those things are good things, but if he wants to talk about the second amendment, we think he's in the

wrong position and he should run for office. >> he encouraged doctors to speak to patients about their gun, finding out what kind of guns they own and so on. can that be stopped? >> no, because they got him through. we tried to prevent this from happening, because of the last couple of days, somehow things got disturbed and we weren't able to prevent him. so now, in january, we have much more power, but right now we don't have the power to stop him. >> we'll continue to follow that. senator, great to see you. >> thank you. >> all the best. >> also tonight, the powerful moment when former president george w. bush made an unannounced visit to the 9/11 memorial museum. wait till you see what mayor bill de blasio said about his own police department when he went on "the view" today. the debate over race, justice and the department under fire. laura ingraham is here after this break. thanks.

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something that's really difficult for a parent to express. this contradiction. the police are there to protect you. you have to respect the police, listen to police. and yet, there could be a misunderstanding because there's been a history in this country. >> that was new york city mayor bill de blasio on "the view" this morning defending controversial comments that he's made in recent days about the

dangers of police racial profiling. the message angering many of the police officers who are already upset with the mayor's support for what he calls peaceful protests in the wake of the michael brown and eric garner grand jury decisions and what those protesters were doing during their march, those peaceful protester, when they marched through new york this weekend. >> laura ingraham is the host of the nationally syndicated show "the laura ingraham show." he can't help himself. >> no, he put his foot in the mouth. he goes right to the regular people who watch "the view," right? >> what was he doing there? >> where else is he going to go. >> every time he comments on this further, when is the moment he has the come to jesus moment with the nypd? >> he's a hypocrite. look at the fences out gracie

mansion. he made sure those fences were fortified. mr. open city, let anyone come in, the perimeter works for him. and he has the police all out there keeping the crowd at bay. i mean, were they profiling people? why not let them all in? these are all, you know, people of great intentions, noble intentions, why have the fence at gracie mansion? let them all come in and be part of the conversation. it's insulting to the police officers who keep him safe, who keep us safe in new york and who, frankly, don't get paid very much money. the gals at "the view," they do quite well. >> they make millions. >> these police officers make very little and put their lives on the line every day. it's insulting to us and to them. >> i have heard anecdotally walking around. the morale seems at an all time low. they seem dejected. they feel under attack, they see people on the streets screaming at them that they're race. based on what?

based on the mayor telling them that they racially profile young kids. >> and giveni igiving voice and affirmation to people who speak in bumper stickers. the level of intelligence of these protesters are mouthing the platitudes. they don't know the statistics. they don't care what happened in chicago over the weekend when demario bailey was shot dead for his jacket going to a basketball practice with his twin brother shot above the chest dead, wonderful young man killed by four african-american teens who just robbed a convenience store. they don't protest that. they don't know those names. i don't think most of them really care about the suffering in the inner city because it doesn't fit their political agenda. but this does. it's all about rabble rousing and creating chaos. i don't know if any of them have regular jobs or aren't working but most ourself don't have time to do this in the streets. >> eric garner's family came out and said this wasn't about race. we don't think this is about race. yet you have the mayor out there

repeatedly suggesting that it is. and not just him but eric holder, of course, who has been praising these athletes who are wearing the "i can't breathe" shirts, which is what eric garner said when he was struggling with the meese. then he comes out and says it shows a great depth to them just beyond them being great ball players. he's supposed to be an impartial arbiter. >> he might as well wear the t-shirt himself to the justice department every day. he might as well just wear that because his comments obviously speak to his advocacy on behalf of the protesters. >> he's not allowed to do that. >> imagine if we had basketball players wearing "close the borders" shirts or "i stand for life" or "i love the police" or "obama get out" or whatever. pick your poison, whatever the statement. do you think he would ever jump in and say, you know, this is wonderful. these celebrities the really need to speak out. it's about their voices being

heard. you know what he would say, you know, i don't comment on these things. he'd be very dismissive. but this is elevate lebron james as if lebron james needs to elevated any more in our national conversation. the kids in staten island and new york who are getting gunned down and killed or knifed by other kids they need a voice in this debate. they get almost no voice by sharpton, jackson and eric holder. no unwith one is talking for th. this is all about power, they want to federalize the police in the end. i believe this is a national effort to rein in local authority. they don't like local control because it means they don't have as of a say. >> interesting. >> for the first time since it opened former president george w. bush made an unannounced tour of the ground zero museum. how about that? >> i want you all to know that

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days after the september 11th attacks. well, president bush was back in lower manhattan on sunday where he made a surprise visit to the 9/11 museum. his very first time seeing it. trace gallagher has the details. trace? >> megyn, it was a very low key visit, no public announcement and no media. the former president arrived at 6:00 p.m. sunday while the museum was still open to the public. he took a few pictures with some who recognized him and shook hands with port authority police officers. other than that the they walked silently around the grounds with their security team. mr. bush was clearly moved by the exhibit. especially when he got to the last column. that's the final steel beam that was removed from the wreckage of the twin towers marking the end of the nine-month recovery. the column is emblazoned with pictures of 9/11 victims as well as messages of faith, love and hope from the first responders who helped during the rescue

effort. the 9/11 memorial museum sits on the site of the old world trade center. attacks, t noted, just a few president bush stood on top of the rubbled a ground zero using a bullhorn to reassure americans. that bullhorn is also inside the museum. the former president skipped the museum's opening back in may and some analysts point out that his visit now comes less than a week after the senate released its report on enhanced interrogation technique. dick cheney has been highly critical of that report, but president bush has said very little. the last time he was at the site was when he dedicated the memorial and museum on the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. >> trace, thank you. and on that day, george w. bush became a wartime president. we'll be right back. >> be in the primary who you are and be that same person in the general election. richard nixon convinced the republican party for a period of

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