again, thank you for watching us tonight. please always remember that spin stops here. we're always definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, president obama suggesting that the u.s. is less racially divided than when he took office. despite the death of eric garn and the death of another black 18-year-old in missouri that hands of a white police officer. i'm in for megyn kelly. more protests, near missouri. they're chanting, your silence is violent. this these scenes were calmer after surveillance video showed

white officer killing a 18-year-old. they are demonstrating against the nypd, despite calls from the mayor to stop until after the two officers were laid to rest. the nypd is reporting at least a half dozen people have been arrested and many continued threats and police are encouraged to wear bullet proof vests and remain vigilant. and despite this, president obama is telling us that they we are less racially divided than when he took office. but first, a fox news exclusive

who is president of the sergeant's benevolent association, but also among the officers who turned their back on the mayor. i, first, want to thank you for your it service in the line of duty. >> thank you for having me. >> the tension have simered down a bit. do you regret saying that the mayor has blood on his hands and turning your back on him or do you stand by your statements? >> i stand by them. the mayor turned his back on the nypd. his whole campaign was pointed on issues with the nypd. and never did he have any type of background on the side of law enforcement. it's only as a result of these

two officers being killed is the mayor now making statements that we need to comply and respect police. it hasn't been the case in the past and as far as turning my back on the mayor, along with other cops, i stand by that. i think that the mayor needs to lead and he's not doing that right now. >> and there's been a banner that flew over the state of new york and a blaurg alleges that it's a group of retired police officers and it says "de blasio, our backs are turned to you." do you think that gives us any progress or do you think there's reconc reconciliation between the mayor and the nypd? >> reconciliation is always

possible. the what is interesting is that the question of reconciliation consistently acomes up and we're now a week later. it's friday. and a week ago today, the mayor sat down and met with the protesters. it will be a week ago, tomorrow that officers were shot in their patrol car, and the mayor has yet to meet with a policeman. he's been hiding under popularity of the police commissioner. i think you're going to see that he's completely wrong. >> he has asked for protesters and demonstrators to stop, at

least until these two hero kz be laid to rest. is that not enough? if you were mayor, what would you do? >> i would afloepproach the sub with a lot more humility and that maybe some of my actions were not the right actions. and what the mayor came in with was the tale of two cities and n now we have two cities. he needs be humbled and start back up his words with action. i would firth open it with i'm open for meetings with the reverend calvin buts, george

martin, him and i have been working together, along with eleanoritae eleanor tatum, who runs the amsterdam newspaper. >> the police in this country and city are not enemy of the people and we are trying to provide the best in public safety that is available. >> let me ask you, what does it do to the ooffficers, when ther are these credible threats and yet they leave their families every day and work their beat? >> the stress levels are monumental right now. officers are very vigilant. the simple act of waulk nothing to a store, you don't know if

you're going to an ambush or a case. so the stress levels are very high and in the long run, we'd all like the see this lowered and an atmosphere of safety be created for the officers. we've now become a very defense oriented police department. >> all right. sergeant, we thank you and the other men and women out there who are risking their lives to do their job. alan, always good to see you. what do you make of sergeant mullein's remarks? do you see any hope for the city and the police to work together? >> he said the mayor should change his attitude, but what more could he possibly say.

the mayor has said he would not tolerate negative action against the police. when he spoke to the son about how to act towards police, he also said to take special care and they're there to protect you. you have a bunch of white people sitting round on cable news and talk radio and telling black people that they should react, according to a nonpartisan group, black men are 20 more times likely, based on a study, to be more likely to be killed by cops. if you're the parent of a black or biracial child, that's the

feeling you're going to have. and the cops turning their back, that's not bringing the city together. that's not healing. >> you can see how the officers would feel slighted. you heard him say that he had to take special care and that he said it was different for a white child and a lot of officers feel like that's tainting them with racism. >> he said special care with the police and he said who are there to protect you. he was clearly stating that cops are the good guys who are there to protect the community. because he wasn't putting down the police. >> what about him saying it's different if you're a white kid.

what does that snemean? >> if you've seen what hapland over this country, you're going to want to protect your kid. >> bought mayor of a city like new york city and you're saying that in the wake of these tension, you do have to be careful about what he said, no? >> he said the police are there to protect you. the cops turning their back is what is dividing the city. and him saying that the mare shouldn't attend and when one of the family members of ramos, said he wants the mayor there and that's what is divideing in city. >> and that is their wishes. it so that should be respected.

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after kaupz killed and shot an unarmed black teen. the video shows 18-year-old an toneio martin walking through a gas station parking lot moments ago. witnesses say he pulled out a gun and fired at officer and then cop shot. and after the protests were starting after the eric garn case and the michael brown. but people are saying this does not fit that rhetoric. sir. >> hi, shannon. >> how tough do you think it is in each of these individual cases? they really are very different and different findings in each

of these cases but do you find that there's such a combustable conversation going on but that if there is any similar circumstances, people are willing to jump on either side? >> and the ingredients to these are if you have a white police officer, even though his life is in jeopardy and clearly, as you can see on this video, that somehow the white police officer is at fault and that the facts and the forensics and your own eyes, the very fact that the narrative that the police are racist if they're white enforcing the law and that if they're black and enforcing the law, they're not. and there's nothing that a white police officer can do that won't

create the same rhetoric and right down to the lowest street demonstrator in the usa. >> and thedore hauskens, he's african american himself, he said he's reviewed this video and from what he seize, it's nothing like the other cases mentioned. and his narrative is that the 18-year-old pulled a gun and the officer shot to save his own life. do you think the mayor, since he is african, will be different and that somehow he's betraying them because he's not on their side? >> yes. they're going to say he's part

of the establishment, part of the problem and the theme of these protesters is a white police officer shoots a black teen but nobody accounts for the conduct that is trulty the suspect. nobody told this young teen pull that gun on his officer. he could have simply said i have a gun and laid on the ground. he chose to do what he did and he did. is that what they teach their children? is that what their community is? and that's the message they're conveying. >> hearing from his family, they're of course heart broken. he is a young man, 18-year-old,

never expecting to lose him that gas station with some friends. that same -- at the same time, things i don't stling been resolved -- how much pressure does this put on police to make sure they don't miss a thing when they're out? not wanting to contribute to this ongoing tension from both sides. >> when you look at this, dha do anything they want but if they come to work and they answer a radio call, which is what happened in this instance, they investigated a theft and end up in a shooting. they can't control these dynamics. by the police in the michael brown death or in this shooting. these are both instigated by the

suspect. the officers are just reactionary. so when these officers go out into the street, it's not that they can say, well, i'm not going to do this and i'm not going to push the envelope on this. they know they're the suspect, they're know they are going to be violent and the public seems to be completely clueless to this fact that these individuals d dictated their own death. >> and what is so difficult is that people who have real grievances and fears, they are being leveraged to the benefit of someone else who really doesn't truly have their best interest at heart. thank you. now, why as we're seeing more

out rage against plooolice, is president saying there is less racial dividing than when he took office. plus, what is there to be jealous of? >> they hate us because they hate us. aynards going to ain't. >> and after a crisis of the movie the interview, the critics aren't raving but does it

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from the president as we are seeing new protests in missouri because of a black teen shot by a police officer. and then the continued fall out over the grand jury's decision over the eric garn case. all the while, the president has said that race relations are less racially divided. good to see you. do you feel that there has been some missed opportunity here for president obama because a lot of people voted for him, even those who didn't vote for him, had high hopes that maybe it would be a turning point for racial relations in the country. >> it's not as simple as black and white and the problem is the

a lot was put on the color of the skin, instead of content. but first we also have to extract what really matters here in the numbers. the majority of americans, just move them out of the picture. we've come a great ways since voting rights and civil rights in the '60s. and we are not racist country but there is a small core, politically driven by leaders like al sharpton, who sits that right hand of bill deblazio, and they are invested in driving a narrative that if you're black, everything else is against you and even in the black community, it's not a monolithic blot.

and you can take more afflunt blacks, and move them to more urban blacks, and those are the ones being used by this president and these false leaders. so it's a more complex situation and a missed opportunity. this country has done an absolutely amazing thing with slavery and race relations but we have been left in a battle and without being able to have a real conversation. >> i want to go to a pole about racial relations tebetter. 19% say better, 62% say worse and 13% say maybe.

>> al sharpton driving the debate of hate and devivsness. when you hear that and being driven constantly and with their hands up don't shoot predicated on a lie. when you hear the recent shooting in bberkley, where the black mayor comes out and says this is not ferguson. and you had this criminal point a gun and unfortunately, paid for his action and then you have this deep disconnect between the reality of who we are and people see that and think race relations are worse. they're worse because of a small minority but better. >> do you think the president is going to have to distance himself from al sharpton and a

newspaper said he needs to -- he nogize very close relationship, including the commander in chief. >> he is a shake down artist. he is someone who is president obama's go-to man on race. president obama's go to man on races. those are his own words. notice that he doesn't go out and shake down ferguson for funds, he does not go back after the protests and the riots are over. he goes to sony. why? because there's money there. and the president, who is a progressive, who has used this tact to divide people.

whatever war they want to kung to divide people into voting blocks. so al sharpton serves a vital role in that behavior and it's this continued narrative that is driving more americans into disgust with the system. we need to get over it but number one, we need say you are inconsequential figure in the actual honest discussion about fix problems where they exist, not when they're jined up with false race narratives. >> we have to leave the there. good to see you. new developments in the hackings of sony pictures. a month after they blamed the u

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its film interview groeshz a millions there in a very small scale release. >> reporter: in the guys of it the scandal, people packed the theaters to see the movie, it was supposed to be released to 5,000 mainstream theaters but even still, they grossed 1 million dollars. >> to be dictated by a country like north korea, it's more rewarding to be sitting here right now. >> and it met long lines around the country, whether you were trying to see it in los angeles, to the east coast and when they came out of the theater, they

said whether they liked the movie or not, it didn't matter, it was about not letting people tell them what they could watch. >> we cannot let them tell us what we want to watch. >> reporter: and movie goers singing proud to be an american. microsofts x box online and sony play station store suffered eruptions from a group calling itself the lizard squad. the problem is the gaming and is not exactly sure whether it's tied to the internet release or just a fwagaming issue but theye look nothing to that as well.

the copresident urged congress pass legislation but they can both agree one thing. it will take partnership to make sure we have cyber security, not only for private, but public entities across the country and that is no small task. >> the film may have grossed a million dollars but critics don't like it. but does it matter? the movie is probably not going to be up for a whole lot of oscars. >> an alleged sat ier that's about as funny as a communist

food shortage. but it doesn't matter. it is a patriotic duty and some are even saying was this a publicity stunt by sony? >> and a lot of people are going just to make statement. so, that end of the day, how does this fair for sony's long snu term? >> this was be a big financial loser for sony and a debalkal. remember, the oceo of sony pictures say we can't put it on and the press and the president doesn't understand and then they say "oh, we made a mistake". now it just looks like a spineless jelly fish.

>> and you have some people saying big one for the first amendment. this is great. do you think they will ultimately look at the weak? >> it eventually got to the right place, but if sony would have continued to sit on this, it would have been leekd and seen on a black list kind of situation but we also can't lose sight of the other things. the racial jokes talking about women, all of that is part of the ledger for sony too. so sony still has some rehab to do. >> right and if we don't go see it, the terrorists win. and there is a movie with steven

curel that might be put on hold as well. do you think ultimately, they will say, we aren't going to let them tell us what we can watch. and just put it on there. >> the movie is not getting rave reviews and maybe the people with the curel movie will say, we can jump on this band wagon too. >> new information on the sony hack, with some sources doubting whether the attack was done by north korea and others saying it is circumstantial and apparently kim jong-un is getting closer to

vladimir putin. and he is one of our favorites. good to see you. and we have talked about russian many times over the last few months and people saying, countries can't go around making movies like this? what gives? >> this was significant move that was lost because of the christmas break but when you have an official russian spokesman coming out and defending north korea, north korea, even that un is a puriau state. it is rejected that un and yet, the official russian line is not only complimenting north korea, but it also took swiep that united states. this means that russian foreign

ministry is feeling emboldened. they're feeling like there are no consequences if you take on the u.s. or the west in general. they were just coming off of crimia, where they grabbed a whole section of the country and bisically there's been no consequences but some sanctions brushed off. so i think they're seeing when you deal with the north koreas, the puriau state, it needs be taken seriously. >> and when you add it to all the other things you mentioned, annexing and all types of other things they've done, that it shows they don't have a great fear that the west will do anything to hurt them permanently and north korea is

persona non grata at the un and at is saying something and yet, for theme be backed by russia, they really, putin, must think there are no consequences. >> if you go back to our relationship with russia, if you remember, hillary said, let's start this relationship all over. so they brought out this little reset button and in a very public way, they said we will reset this relationship and put it on a different path because the path hasn't worked but what we've seen is this new path has only worked for russia. it has not worked for the united states. there has not been an admission that they made mistake by going down this new path, however, the rest of the world sees it and

they see an obama administration that draws a red line in syria but doesn't act, it says tough language about krimea and they don't act and we're seeing what i think, is a very dangerous pattern. >> thank you. all right, some of the issues that the supreme court include, obama care, religious freedom and why liberals may not like some of the answers. and is science now making the up to 30%? 45%? 60%? the answer is... up to 60% less. and that's a big reason why the u.s. is a world leader in reducing co2 emissions. take the energy quiz -- round 2.

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the odds against, the are so astronomical, it's crazy. and the good news is science is leading us clearly to that we couldn't have just got here. >> and why do you think people, for centuries, say that there's proof, whether it's a fossil record or other things, that there is no theory and that this is the dominate theory. >> the more we know for the universe, not just life, to exist. in one chapter i talk about how crazy it is for life to exist and then i talk about the more they look for to the big bang, who are 8iests, and it doesn't

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