today at madison square garden. thanks for watching. >> thanks for having us. >> governor huckabee will be with us. >> reporter: the passing of a towering figure in democrats i can politics. mario cuomo has died at 82. >> the president is right. in many ways we are a shining city on a hill. but the shard truth is not everyone is sharing in this city's splendor and glory. leland: i'm leland vittert in for bill hemmer. heather: i'm heather childress

in for martha maccallum. the man known as a liberal lion and giants of politics once considered a contender for the oval office died hours after the swearing in of his son andrew as governor of new york. >> reporter: the "new york times" called mario cuomo a skilled politician and debater. he served three terms. he ran for a fourth in 2004, losing to george pataki. a first generation american he learned his lou degree before entering politics. he was heavily courted twice by the democratic party to run for

president. he gave one of his most stirring speeches elevating a relatively unknown governor in arkansas footer highest office of the -- arkansas for the highest office of the lands. because i love new york, because i love america i nominate for the president of the united states governor bill clinton. >> reporter: the statement reads in part it was his gift and our good fortune he was both a sterling orator and a passionate public servant. >> he couldn't be here physically today my father, but my father this this room. he's in the heart and mind of every person who is here.

>> reporter: president obama said he rose to be chief executive of the state he loved a determined champion of values andand a voice for inclues i i -- for in for inclusiveness and fairness. heather: it looks like former florida governor jeb bush is getting closer and closer to running for president severing ties to all his board memberships both public and profit as he turns his focus to gauge whether there is support

for his presidency. does the mayor have the support it takes and does he have what it takes a make a real run for this? >> the second one is the key question when it comes to jeb bush. he's brother and son of the president, a pretty big deal. does he have the hustle? that's the question many of us had as he threw his hat into the ring. would he hustle to get the job done? so far he is hustling. he's raising money and raising it at a good clip. governor bush was working his blackberry and working the phone lines, shoring up their support.

so he's on the hustle. >> what about support within the republican party. some of the more conservative members of the party saying he's too moderate. >> certainly. the issue of immigration he has a problem with the mainstream of his party there is no doubt. he seems to be mopping up on the question of common core, education, that's a common question. but the big question for jeb bush -- about jeb bush is will other establishment candidates step aside. will mr step aside. what's the purpose of chris christy's candidacy. is there a reason for other establishment candidates to stay in the race. then the question becomes what will be the role for the anti-romney.

we see rand paul and ted cruz and others on the right side of the party. who will it be that will articulate the message to say i'm the person who can stop jeb bush. we hava some poll numbers we can show everyone at home polled among some of these frontrunners. it's a pretty clear lead over christy for bush at this point. my question for you who is not on this list who you think could be the strongest contender against him? >> rand paul makes the list, but you would have to say from a position of national organization and ability to ramp up a campaign. he stand out as a guy most able to be the anti-jeb bush. scott walker will have to find out the governor of wisconsin we'll have to find out whether

he's serious and how much of an inure gent wants to run as. the other people we'll have to keep an eye on is ted cruz and ben carson. heather: let's talk about whether it does in factened up being a linton-bush -- a clinton-bush campaign. do you think voters will be turned off by that? could their family names actually work against them? >> there is no jeb bush if there is no hillary clinton. jeb bush cannot run for president if hillary clinton is not the presumptive nominee. his sameness out of a population of 170 million where no one other than a bush or clinton is eligible to run for president is laughable.

but since hillary clinton is running it opens the way. so she makes his candidacy possible. but he makes her candidacy possible because he would remove from her the sayness and the old washington come back to play. chris stirewalt, thank you for joining us. i certainly hope you have a happy new year. leland: we have a fox update on airasia flight 8501. 30 bodies have been recovered with the help of sonar equip. some of those bodies were still belted into their seats. they are still battling rough seas in a search for the black

boxes. >> reporter: it's been called the most successful date yet for the sad recovery efforts for airasia flight 8501. despite another day of bad weather, the u.s.s. sampson locating 12 bodies. the bodies are being transferred back to the indonesian city of a city of surbaya. the plane is on the floor of the java sea. leland: as this continues now since sunday with the crashes are we getting more data points from investigators or are they empty hand without those black

boxes. >> that's key. we don't have a definitive answer on what caused it. they have recovered key elements of the plane it's been reported including a tail fin that's could continue to reveal a cause. the under water detection equipment. but the flight recorders are still missing. bad weather probably played as' of a cause as how the pilots reacted to that weather. leland: it's a grim job in tough conditions. it's monsoon season over there as well.

heather: a desperate search for answers in that deadly new year's eve stampede in china. what they are ruling out as the death toll declines. heather: isis digging in as u.s. troops arrive back in iraq on a training mission. general cane will joins with his take.

heather: families in shanghai are looking for answers after a stampede on new year's eve. police are dismissing reports

that the stampede happened when people started throwing coupons that looked like dollar bills. leland: there is a new push coming to the keystone pipeline setting up a salvo between capitol hill and the white house. both chambers of congress will bring bills to the floor to get the project going. we have the communications director for former governor jon corzine. katharine, republicans knowed the president won't be happy with this. is this how to start off the first session republicans have

both the house and senate with taking something up they know is going to be very controversial? >> i think the president would be happier with anything he likes, but that's not what he gets from a congress that has been elected that doesn't agree with him. that's how democracy works so he gets their priorities instead his. had the president decided to do something like this a year and a half ago the results of the election would have had slightly different. i think it's a decent thing start with. it has bipartisan support so it's not something he could have

shot down. leland: right now it's 68-26 yes. that came out in november-december right after the mary landrieu failed bid in the senate. is this a smart point for the president to fight on or is it better at some point to hand out a few bones to the republican congress and let things go through that clearly the american people are for rather than being on the wrong side of the american people? >> as the president just said, it's the things he believed in. it's been framed as a jobs issue. but heather's point is saying the president gets the republicans' priorities. the republicans' priorities are a political side show rather than the real problems americans

are facing, education, all the things the american people care about. keystone is a side show. it's not up to the congress or the president to approve. it's up to a nebraska supreme court to approve the keystone pipeline and nebraska has blocked in the courts because the farmers don't want it. it's up to the state department and not up to the president. leland: i want to let mary katharine get in here. this goes through multiple states. 42,000 jobs could be created in terms of building this thing. far from something far down as a side show. it temperatures jobs and economy related. but this is something americans can grasp as symbols. trials dispute as to how many. but it's direct hill related

like healthcare which many democrats admitted that was not exactly the priority. and because of something like healthcare many have lost confidence in congress to do giants huge ambitious projects so this is something they can accomplish. the president says i'm slow walking it so you can move past it. >> it's jobs and economy related because it helps jobs and economy in canada. in the united states it has 35 perm snanlt jobs. in canada it will create billions in economic development. >> look at it in a larger sense. all of a should temperature now for the first time in president obama's presidency you have a republican controlled house republican controlled senate. there is going to be a number of things headed to his desk he is

not going to like. is it politically smart for a lame duck president to start vetoing things ore there certain issuers he will have to throw republicans a bone on. >> i think you will see the president trying to establish a balance and trying to work with this congress as he has the last six years. there is some talk of willingness to trade approval of his climate change measures for his support for keystone. it will still be blocked in the state it needs to go through. i think you will see the president reach out of to republicans and work with them. if there are issues in which he firmly believes the best course for the american people with them for the future toys stand stop you republicans he will do so. leland: there is a lunch with congressional leadership scheduled. front page of the "wall street journal," headlines "obama

pivots to lawmakers draws skeptics." if. >> the president does not pivot. heather: traffic at a stand still because of this overturned truck that burns out of control. this is happeningn near arlington, texas. the semi was hauling a propane tank. the fir burning for more than an hour musting down all west bowrnld lanes of extra -- all westbound lanes of fire. that and and top police officer placed on administrative leave. that's coming up after a shooting in his own home.

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leland: a police chief is being investigated in a shooting that left his wife in critical condition. the chief called 911 to report that he accidentally shot his wife margaret with his police-issued glock inside their bedroom. the d.a. says he won't decide if charged need to be filed until after an investigation. another initial calls we got were that the chief accidentally shot his wife twice. as the result of a preliminary interview we found he only shot her one time.

leland: a lot of questions about what went on inside that house. the chief's wife is in critical condition. heather: a new study object cancer with scientists concluding that most them are the result of bad luck. researchers say this comes count way cells divide. >> reporter: researchers in baltimore say genetic mutations that randomly krowp as our stem cells -- crop up as our stem cells divide trumps external factors in most cases. the team researchers analyzed

published papers look at the rate of stem cell division among tissue types excluding breast cancer. they compared that against a person's lifetime risks of developing cancer. 2/3 of cancer risk can be blamed on random mutations in dna and one-third on environmental factors like smoking. researchers conclude concluded they appear to be the main reason for cancers. they say it doesn't mean people can go wild with lifestyle choices.

one researchers says he hopes the findings will prompt more focus on early detection of cancer saying cancers of the lungs, skin and other factors are tied to lung cancer and smoking. researchers have concerns the study was weakened by the lack of data on breast and prostate cancer. leland: searchers are scouring the java sea for wreck and from airasia flight 8501. heather: if you think this winter wonderland is somewhere up north. these images from nevada is standing by to tell us about the

new weather. >> i was new to vegas. i wasn't expecting weather like this. i haven't seen snow like this in a long time.

heather: bone-chilling weather hitting states all across the country, even where it doesn't usually happen. cactuses covered with snow. storms blanketing a huge area of the state. in nevada strong wind whipped the snow. so is this crazy weather going to be the normal for the new year. meteorologist maria molina is live with the details. >> reporter: we are tracking a store system that will bring in some more wild weather. you can see a reloop bringing snow to places like the grand

canyon. the store moved eastward and is bringing in areas of rain into texas and oklahoma. ice store warnings have been issues for extreme north-central texas. some areas could be looking at ice accumulation. hopefully some spots will be looking at a quarter inch of ice that will be causing travel issues. winter storm warnings have been issued in western texas and parts of new mexico. it's messy across texas and oklahoma. this is 3:00 p.m. eastern saturday. some snow on the northern side of it because portions of the northeast. and areas of heavy rain from the midwest down to parts of the gulf coast.

we have winter storm watches that have been issued across portions of new england because some portions could be picking up more snow and rain. in the gulf coast temperatures will be warm enough. we'll have all those ingreed glents place for isolated severe weather. if you live in new orleans. you have a chance for storms that could produce damaging tornado and wind gusts and localized flash flooding. otherwise current temperatures across the lower 48. heather, take a look at these numbers. you are in the single digits across parts of utah. you factor in a little bit of a breeze. that's wait feels like out there. 2 degree in denver and 1 degree

in minneapolis. mother nature bringing it all. heather: busy day for you maria. leland: isis has been getting pounded by the u.s.-led coalition. more than a dozen airstrikes hitting isis in their stronghold in syria and iraq. the first u.s. troops arrive to a train the counter offensive to strike back in the spring. joining us is general jack keane. there has been so much criticism of the president's and the pentagon's plan saying they were pulling their punches against isis. have the gloves come off? >> the airstrikes have had a significant impact on isis. taken

any new territory in months. the airstrikes in iraq have been successful in stopping their offensive capability. they are still conduct offensive operations but no new territory. in syria they are attacking offensively across a large swath of territories still in kobani where we have a stalemate and all the way to the iraqi border in eastern sir yeah. so that's a different situation. but the airstrikes have had positive impact there as well. >> but they have yet to dismantle isis. isis is on the offense not the defense. how do you change that dynamic and start putting isis back on its heels? >> it will take a considerable effort. the indigenous forces we are relying on, in iraq the sunni

peshmerga tribes and militia. they will have to retake some of the territory that's against lost. there is some territory that's been retaken done by shiia militia backed by iran which is controversial for us. but we have to effectively arm the peshmerga. two, them fight if they have the skills. two, we have to bring the sunni tribes in a large way to train them and we have plans to do that in our province and three we have to retrain and restructure the iraqi army. whether that will be able to reache territory is a huge question for anybody involved in this. legal are that's the question i wanted to ask you. the united states spent $25 billion, 8 years countless years and fortune in iraq

training the military and getting it built up. president obama said when the troops leaves the iraqis can take care of themselves. as soon as isis showed up the iraqis abandoned their positions and they rob. now there will be 3,000 u.s. troops trying to train a couple thousand iraqis. is that throwing good money after bad? >> i don't think so. the iraqi army did collapse in front isis and that was a stunning surprise to anybody involved in this. but what we have found out and some of us knew a little bit of it in advance is that maliki purnged the iraqi -- purged the iraqi army. so the distinguished and effective leaders who helped succeed with the surge with u.s. forces were gone and that had a lot to do with why this force

collapsed. they had 40% 50% awol rates because the leadership was sow lousy. it's 23409 enough to retrain -- it's not enough to retrain recruits. we have got to make sure there are effective lead toarls lead those troops. >> you have said not only the trained troops but the effective leadership. there are reports some of the soldiers inside iraq are coming out of mortar attacks. general jack keane we appreciate your insight. heather: you are never too young to be a terrorist. is very pufght out a parenting guide on how to raise so-called jihadi babies. leland: oregon crushing florida state. it was an old fashioned whooping. the highlights from college

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leland: the top four teams in the country squaring off in the first ever college football playoffs. number fourio state going up against top-ranked alabama in the sugar bowl. the buckeyes urged out the crimson tide. theio state running-back pounds the ground for a sugar bowl record 230 yards. heather: at the rose bowl, succeeded oregon blowing out third-ranked ohio state.

the heisman trophy winner marcus threw two touchdowns. >> it was as bad as you can imagine. but the good thing is, we lived to fight another day. we got some of the great futures and no one likes to lose, man. losing is not in my vocabulary. leland: it is now. oregon versus ohio state vying for what would be their first ever national title. who would have thoughts of this happening, a national championship game between ohio state and the ducks without this playoff it wouldn't have happened.

heather: who would have shot florida state would have lost so badly. leland: that would have been painful just to watch. heather: they made it that far. i went to chapel hill. and where were we? i don't know. huge fan win or loss. we are going to switch gears and bring you back to airasia flight 8501. we have been following this story. if the frantic search for victims and black boxes. 30 bodies have been recovered from the java sea. ships from malaysia, indonesia and the united states trying to pin points the wreckage and search for the black box. we have a former crash vet --

crash investigator. the number of bodies recovered so far is slowly picking up. 30 bodys have been recovered. how does that aid in the investigation as to what caused this crash to happen? >> the black box recorders are the key to establishing what happened. but the bodies have clues. those air safety investigators are particularly look at where the naked bodies were seated in the aircraft. because people that were ejected -- if the bodies are naked they were most certainly ejected in a breakup on impact. if they were seated in the tail of that plane the tail may be

miles away from the wreckage. it could even be conceivably be on dryland. this is a very important development. heather: you talk about the ping errant ability to trace that. time is of the essence and also the debris itself as we go day by day and the weather conditions deny access to that area. the debris is being spread across a wider area as well. >> some off it is being found 100 miles away from the last reported point of the aircraft. these are the old pinger batteries. right now they have 30-day batteries. to use a football analogy it's a running clock. heather: there were reports at least one of the plate

attendants on board had been discovered fully clothed. did you hear an update on that and what did that tell you if that was true. >> it tells you she probably was not ejected. she may have been doing like flight attendants always do, risking her own life trying to get the passengers belted in. she was most likely aboard parts of the main wreckage inside. heather: the number of bodies discovered so far. does that tell you anything in terms of the crash and. the majority of them are still inside the fuselage and if that was primarily left intact? >> that's a potential indication but this is -- we still have 120-some bodies, 130-some bodies left to recover.

recover. they will want to get the pilots right away before the tissue deteriorates. we are kind of like crime scene versus daters but we want to do thorough autopsies especially on the two pilots. heather: you would have to determine the state of their conditions while they were flying the plane itself. >> exactly. i could go into a lot of speculation which i shouldn't. but we look for -- i'm not suggesting that's the case -- was there over the counter or illegal drugs obviously alcohol all this affects their decision making. i'm not suggesting that is the case. we have to eliminate many times what didn't happen to find out what ultimately did cause this

accident. heather: doctor, thank you so much for joining us. a lot of questions remain. thank you. leland: the minimum wage officially going up in 21 states. coming up we'll talk about how it might impact the u.s. economy. >> reporter: firefighters risking their lives against a massive inferno. a report on the damage straight ahead.

leland: several firefighters have been injured in what appears to be a fire truck accidents near st. louis missouri. you can see the fire struck overturned. its wheels up in the air.

it happened shortly after 7:30 a.m. local time, an hour and 20 minutes ago. no word yet on road conditions. no idea how badly the firefighters have been injured. heather: the minimum wage is jumping in nearly two dozen states on the first day of 2015 with employers in connecticut and massachusetts paying $9 or more an hour. this is a the white house and congress continue to square off over the federal minimum wage which remains at $7:25. happy new year to you. perhaps a better new year for these employees who are involved in these states with the minimum wage hike. how will it affect them? how will it affect the employers? >> this is a politically driven

subject. these people who live just on minimum wage can't make ends meet anyway. if you are making a minimum wage you are making $20,000 a year pretax. these small increases although they are going to help some people premaximum, it's not enough to make a dent and make a damage in the economy. however, the employer it does have an impact on them. and what they will end up doing depends on whether it's a product or service, the price will trickle down to the consumer. it's going to be a price increase. that might make it where those employers where the widget is priced at such a level where people don't buy it anymore. we hear that on television and it's actually true. wee might see employers get

hurt, but the employees it won't make a dent for them. >> it anchts out to $728 per year. what about outside of those states where the increases have not gone into effect? >> it depends on the state. certain states -- if you are making a minimum wage, you need to find a way to turn to your employer and say i want my income fived to performance. i want to find a way to make my myself so valuable to this business that you can't live without me. then we'll see a natural raise in what someone makes. if you can do that you will make more money. but the idea of sitting around saying i'm getting this minimum wage increase, you will never make ends meet if you are doing that. in the state of texas where i am you have people working fear minimum wage and have the opportunity through the oil and

gas fields because they perform and make themselves valuable. if you are employer will not give an opportunity to make more money based on your performance you will never find another job. heather: ed, we have to go. appreciate it. leland: another state has begun issue offing driver's licenses to i will he will immigrants. some people say it will make the roads safer while others rrnlts happy with it.

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heather: a grim task for crews searching the crash area of airasia flight 8501 as the bodies of more victims are pulled from the java sea, some of them still belted into their seats. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum. leland: i'm leland vittert nice to be with you heather. in for bill hemmer. a total of 30 victims have been found. just four have been identified. more bodies are believed to be in the main body of the plane still missing presumably on the bottom of the java sea. teams are using sensitive listening devices to try to locate it along with the aircraft's black boxes. but bad weather monsoon season is make the mission very difficult. david piper joins us live from

bangkok. david? >> reporter: despite the rough weather, the search-and-recovery operation is making some headway at this time in the java sea. as you said 21 more bodies were recovered today. that is 30 in all. many of them were recovered by the destroyer the uss sampson today out of san diego. the uss fort worth is now also moved into the area and on standby if needed. at the moment more than 50 ships from many nations are having to conduct their ship in darkness and 15-foot waves. two ships left the indonesian port today with specialists underwater listening equipment on board. they hope the hydrophones will help pinpoint the body of the airbus and its flight recordsers. accompanying the equipment is a team from france's investigation agency. dive steams are struggling to get down to a object cited at the bottom that could be the main body of the plane that went missing on sunday. it is into the clear what made

the airasia airbus crash on sunday the pilot did radio in he was facing bad weather and asked indonesian ground control if he could climb. it was initially refused because another plane was above. they then lost contact with the aircraft. some experts are suggesting that the plane stalled after climbing sharply and may even have hit the water in one piece because the number of bodies, luggage and parts of the plane that have been recovered intact but of course we won't find out until the blacks box recorders are recovered and that data analyzed. back to you, leland. leland: david piper live in bangkok. nighttime over there. the search begins again tomorrow morning. thank you, david. >> former new york governor mario cuomo has died. cuomo served three terms in office from 1983 to 1994 and had strongly considered a run for president. cuomo gained national attention for this speech. it was at the 1984 democratic national convention, blasting

president reagan. >> mr. president, you ought to know that this nation is more "a tale of two cities," then it is just a shining city on a hill. maybe, mr. president, if you visited some more places, maybe if you went to appalachia where some people still live in sheds maybe if you want to lackawanna where thousands of unemployed steelworkers wonder why we subsidize foreign steel. heather: cuomo died shortly after his eldest son andrew was sworn in for a second term as new york governor yesterday. andrew mentioned his father during his inaugural address. >> he couldn't be here physically today my father but my father is in this room. he's in the heart and mind of every person who is here. he is here and he is here. >> cuomo's family says he died of heart failure. mario cuomo was 82 years old.

and the reaction is pouring in from all across the country. the white house says that president obama called governor cuomo last night to extend condolences on the death of his father who he hailed as an unflinching voice for tolerance. the dan springer is live in honolulu. that is near where the president is vacationing and he joins us with more. hi, dan. >> reporter: in addition to the phone call hi, heather. in addition to the phone call placed by president obama to governor andrew cuomo he also issued a statement last night which he called former governor mario cuomo quote an italian catholic kid from queens born to immigrants parents. he paired his faith in god and faith in america to live a life of public service and we're all better for it. his own story taught him as americans we're bound together as one people and our country's success rests on success of us all, not just a fortunate few. mario cuomo was a big supporter of president obama. he once said they shared what he called a brand of benign

pragmatism. he said obama is not a liberal or conservative. he is a very practical guy who is playing it one shot at a time. obviously the two shared a mutual respect. heather? heather: what are others saying about mario cuomo if. >> reporter: of course you know, mario cuomo is a giant in democratic politics. so the reaction is going to come in from all over the place including from former president clinton who said in a statement mario's life was the very embodiment of the american dream. when he placed my name in nomination at the '92 democratic convention he said government had the solemn obligation to create opportunity for all of our people. in his three terms as positive of new york he honored that obligation and the irony there is, as you mentioned in the lead-in, mario como came within a whisker of running for president in 1992. many people thought he was the frontrunner for that year. had he run there may not have been a president clinton. heather? heather: dan springer live for

us. thank you, dan. leland: nobody really likes the dmv but the lines in california could be long. really long today as the state begins accepting drivers license applications from illegal immigrants. california is now one ever 10 states. offering immigrant driver program. 1.4 million people are expected to apply over the next three years. to talk about mike warren, senior staff writer for "the weekly standard." mike, what is your sense? a lot of people who are proponents of this will tell you this makes the road safer as brings people out of the shadows. is this about safety and shadows or is this about a back door to citizenship and amnesty. >> that is what advocates are saying. it will make road as lot safer. a significant portion of traffic accidents are done by folks who don't have drivers licenses. i think that is a little bogus. there are lots of other people who don't have drivers licenses besides illegal immigrants. a lot of criminals who get on

the roads who don't have licenses. there is argument this will bring illegal immigrants in the shadows out of the shadows. but i wonder if they're working they're living and even able to get a car and drive are they really living in the shadows? that sort of sound like the way all of us live. so my question really this policy is, to what end are we doing this? is this actually going to improve the lives of californians by doing this? i'm not entirely sure that is the case. leland: well in that larger sense, in terms of what this does for the average calfornians, who are living there in the sense doesn't this open floodgates. if i'm down in el salvador and mexico i hear they're giving drivers licenses to folks coming across the border i recall legally, doesn't that encourage rather than discourage more folks to do this? >> it could. this is another one of these things that we remember from last summer where all of these young children were coming across the border and the reason being was that they were under the false impression that the

president was, had allowed and congress just allowed more of these kid to come across and that they had approved this. so, a lot of these communication channels, that the message gets a little muddled when it gets down to central america. so that is a real possibility. i think real purpose for this is, as you say sort of a back door to legitimatizing illegal immigrants and bringing them i guess out of the shadows and giving them some kind of documentation but you do have to wonder is this good for the rest of californians? a lot of unemployment in certain sectors in california and are they, are we really wanting to make life easier for illegal immigrants? leland: not only terms it of employment issues and people taking jobs, just in terms of sheer safety issues. obviously proponents say it makes roads safer but consider this. i'm reading from the associated press. they must submit prove of identity and state residency. those who don't possess for

begin government issued identifications approved documents, us have to submit passports can be deemed by the dmv investigator to see if they qualify. they will say is your name x? my name is x. here's your driver's license. doesn't that all of sudden create ability for criminals to reinvent themselves, identity fraud issues, inherently makes california less safe? >> this was a big issue in new mexico which is one of the first state to allow illegal immigrants to have drivers licenses, the governor there, suzanna martinez and republican and first latina governor in the country and she was against offering driver licenses for just that purpose. look this is real boon for criminals who want to reinvent themselves as you say to get a driver's license to have new legitimacy. there is one more problem i don't think anybody really considered which is what is california law enforcement supposed to do if they pull someone over who happens to

have, with a little mark on their drivers license says they're illegal immigrant. are they supposed to call in? leland: you have dichotomy with police officers looking at drivers licenses inherently knowing the person is break the law. all of sudden licenses will have federal limits apply stamped on them. we'll see if that makes any difference how things happen going forward. mike warren, thanks for the insight. appreciate it. >> thanks, leland. >> coming up a new round of obamacare provisions and fees going into effect this year including the employer mandate. this as republicans work on a new tactic to gut the law. leland: plus a new investigation into what may have caused a deadly fire aboard a crowded ferry. just look at these images. imagine that you're on this ferry as the thing is burning down. you're in a lifejacket, as the crippled vessel was towed back to shore. >> a new twist in the disappearance of baby lisa irwin

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leland: four more maritime officials are now being put under formal investigation as the fire-ravaged greek ferry you see there is now approaching italian shores. at least 11 people died after a fire broke out on the norman atlantic. dozens of people are still missing at this hour. more than 470 were rescued. the ferry is now being towed to port where italian authorities are preparing to search for even more victims.

you see a number of folks who had life jackets on the decks there. meantime the ferry's captain is also speaking for the first time. he is saying the team did their best to save everyone on board. >> well after years of delays the all-important employer mandate portion of obamacare is going into effect for the first time this as republicans prepare a new offensive in an attempt to repeal the law now that they have majorities in both houses of congress. katie pavlich news editor of townhall.com and fox news contributor. she joins us with more insight. thanks for joining us. happy new year. >> good morning. happy new year, heather. heather: the new year is not happy for some folks because when it comes to obamacare many important things are happening many calling them the most important yet. three major things i specifically want to talk about. employer mandate as we mentioned kicks in. fines for lack of health car coverage for individuals.

that goes into effect. and supreme court will rule on whether subsidies can be implemented the way the feds are doing it right now of the let's begin with the employer mandate and what effect that will have on communities across this country. >> well the employer mandate goes into effect for companies with 100 more or employees. the people with less than 100 or less employees they will not have their mandate kick in until 2016. in 2015 the bigger companies will deal with the issue. we've seen with the consequence of this, companies preparing for this either dumping people into the obamacare exchanges or, they're increasing their prices on health care and they're not hiring as many people as a result of making up for that cost of obamacare. so then that of course plays into the individual mandate pause this year obamacare the irs is not going to be collecting fines for people who don't have health insurance through obamacare or through their employer or through an individual market, which means $95 of a fine or 1% of that

person's income. companies are dumping off those people into the exchanges if those people choose not to get involved in the exchanges they're then going to face the fine for not having health insurance. heather: i want to go back to the employer mandate for just a moment. you mentioned the other options or avenues that employers are taking to get around it. one of the other things they're doing, is cutting hours of workers. there even has been a new term, called the 29ers that is what republicans call it for people whose hours have been cut. those are one of the things republicans say they are going to attack now that they control both houses of congress. and that is going after the definition of what is full time and clarifying it and saying it does need to be 40 hours. do you think that's a wise move for them? is that a smart place to begin? >> well i think that republicans are very focused on restoring the 40-hour work week. not just republicans. politically this is very difficult with the 40-hour work

week and full-time requirement for the white house and democrats because public sectors unions and private sector unions have been sending letters directly to president obama saying that the obamacare destroys the 40-hour work week. it is destroying health care plans of their workers around they need to restore what the definition of full time is and get rid of that 30, 40 -- a week requirement in obamacare because people are not petting hours they need. which means they're part time and on top of it they're losing their health insurance. this is good for republicans moving forward because it is bipartisan issue. this is not just republicans. it is republicans and democrats. heather: do you think it will continue to be a piecemeal approach when it comes to countering obamacare? or do you think they will have a vote overall to repeal obamacare? >> it is going to be boat. so the house voted multiple times to repeal obamacare as a whole. the house will continue to do that. they will take another vote this spring. mitch min, who is now the majority leader in the senate said he wants obamacare to be

completely repealed. he understands maybe that is not realistic but he is going after issues that he has republican and democrat support on. individual mandate and 40-hour work week is one of them. the other one is medical device tax. those are issues bipartisan in nature that have real effect on people's paychecks taxes fines. if you get rid of that, essentially gets rid of obamacare because the individual mandate is one of those things that holds obamacare together. heather: let's talk about news by the supreme court expected. and what effect do you think that will have? >> so the issue that you're talking about is the king versus burwell case which will be in front of the supreme court this year and essentially what that case argues is that the federal subsidies that are being given to states that haven't set up federal exchanges through obamacare those subsidies are illegal. lower courts are argued they are illegal and ruled they are illegal. if the supreme court agrees with that it will be a very difficult

year for because subsidies are one of the key parts that hold obamacare together. the supreme court, we'll be watching that. the white house will certainly be watching that closely. they have argued that there is just some language in the law that should have been written differently, when we see videos of jonathan gruber showing actually it was very intentional if states did not sign up for exchanges and set them up in their open states those subsidies would not be qualified under the law and therefore illegal. it is a big year. lots of things to watch especially at the supreme court. heather: a big year and big number of people apparently eligible for those subsidies. thanks very much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. heather: bye-bye. leland: the isis terrorist group is now using a disturbing new recruitment tool, very disturbing. a guidebook offering beauty tips recipes and bedtime stories to convince young mothers to raise what they call, jihadi babies. >> just like advertising and sex

sells, you bring over young girls and dress them up, let them wear makeup, you make it appealing to the guys. they may not be able to see us when they get over there but it may be appealing to some people who are considering going and actually pull them over.

♪ heather: u u2 may be with or without frontman bono for quite a while. the singer is recovering from a serious bike x he says he may never play guitar again. the in a statement the he says he has titanium elbow and recovery is more difficult than he thought. he says he may not be ready for a tour starting in may. the singer crashed his bike. it happened in central park in november and he suffered a fractured eye socket, shoulder blade and elbow. i hope he can play again for sure. leland: not only hope he can play again, bonn know, as much as you think about his music and charity work. it is incredible.

you written about his music is this long. what is work as a charity work around the world and his life as christian you hope he can continue to do that. heather: whether you're a fan of his music. leland: with or without him we would be worse off. heather: true. leland: all right. there is a sickening new recruitment tactic from the isis terrorist group. we can now reveal the militants have release ad guidebook for mothers with tips on how to raise jihadi babies. the guide even contains bed symptom stories for infants. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins you have live from washington with more. take us through what is exactly in this guidebook. >> reporter: leland, some of the material is so traffic it really can't be shown on television -- graphic. we have images of children with weapons aimly directly at camera. the manuel sound farfetched. analysts say there is more evidence that the terrorist group is in the fight for a long

haul. it understands it will take at least a generation to reach their stated goals. one section translated by middle east media research institute or memory offers advice on screen time. if you can not eliminate television completely, at least use it only to show children videos that will instill in them the love of allah love of islam and the love of mujahideen. it suggests even using punching bags so these kid can learn how to direct their anger at so-called enemy from a very early age. leland? leland: incredible. for so long we heard about the hamas summer camps where they teach terror tactics those kind of things. is there a large picture when it comes to the guidebook and isis and their recruitment tactics? >> reporter: there is. isis focusing on women in part because they're the really the glue that holds the community of fighters together. in addition to offering child care strategies, isis is using beauty tips and recipes to make

their perverse way of life to seem normal and enticing to draw in recruits. a former senior fbi agent says strategy is really about slick marketing. >> if you can do the same as, you know, any other advertising agency make it look sexier, make it look more elite and faster you're going to get people that will be inspired to come over. that is unconventional warfare thinking. they're getting a huge bang for their buck just by making it look way cooler. >> reporter: for those who follow this area they see a number of parallels with the al qaeda group in yemen that really started this whole digital jihad with the inspire magazine and they were very much in the same tone, if you will, sort of a life-style for these would-be jihadists leland. leland: isis seems per your reporting to whole another level really. a couple of orders of magnitude. catherine herridge live in washington. thanks catherine. >> reporter: you're welcome. heather: more dangerous and very different than other terrorist organizations.

increased airstrikes against isis, u.s. and al its allies hammering the terrorist groups capital in syria. leland: potential break through in the disappearance of lable by. "the kelly file" obtained never-before-seen interrogation videos of lisa's parents. meagan kelly joins us live with what those tapes might reveal. >> i think the first question that need to ask you this morning, okay, is what involvement did you have in the disappearance of lisa? the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq.

leland: fox news alert. there is possible new evidence in the mysterious disappearance of baby lisa irwin. the infant vanished from her crib back in 2011 and much of the suspicion has been focused on lisa's mother who was home at the time, sleeping. but now "the kelly file" has

obtained never-before-seen tapes of lisa's parents being interviewed. that interview conducted by a former cia interrogator, considered one of the world's foremost authorities on recognizing deceptive behavior. here is a clip from so nights, "the kelly file" special. >> what involvement did you have in the disappearance of lisa? >> none. only thing i did wrong was drink that night. and, possibly not be alert, not hear. i'm sorry. >> in that answer, what did you hear? >> we didn't see the deceptive indicators. she answered the question directly. we're not giving her credit for answering directly. what we're giving her credit before not exhibiting deceptive indicators. leland: meagan kelly joins us by phone now. meagan, you have covered this story for three years.

this is very first broke back there in 2011. give us a sense of how significant a development these tapes are in terms of, they shed so much light on the parents state of mind right after their baby disappeared. >> well it is the first objective indicator suggesting possible innocence by the parents if you will. this guy phil houston, has a quarter of a century with the cia. has interrogated several agents, terrorists, what have you and he was not hired by the family. he had no connection to the family but was brought out there at the behest of this independent, anonymous benefactor who is only interest in the case, she posted a reward for the return of the baby, was to see the child found. and so he went out there with had team and the family agreed to sit down with him for eight hours, him and his partner. he and his partner. and they sat there and subjected

themselves to these lengthy interviews. this guy i know him fairly well. he has no horse in this race. if he concluded that the parents were guilty he would be the first to tell you they're lying. he can't say it as a fact but he can offer you his expert opinion. he went out there and talks about it tonight on "the kelly file" believing they're guilty because usually the parents are guilty when a child goes missing. he walks you through how the interview went. we play the clip. first time anybody has seen the clips which his firm has been holding until now. they were released to law enforcement as well but we're the only news media organization that has them and explains what he sees and doesn't see with respect to each parent in a fascinating and compelling exchange. leland: such an incredible view, meagan. since you've been covering this story from the very begin give us a sense, do you feel the police had tunnel vision heres

as you pointed out it is almost owls the always the parents but in critical first few hours things can be missed if police have blinders on. does this lead credence to the theory there is somebody out there with baby lisa. >> there is one suspect police's word, not my word, one began matches description of a man seen carrying a baby at midnight, the night the little girl went missing from the crib but the police all they ever said about the guy they have moved on from him and they don't believe he is a suspect. they don't elaborate why that is and the family, the lawyers and the private investigator who was working on the case have not been satisfied with that explanation and i, just as an attorney, i don't understand why they moved on from this guy. they don't offer any evidence as to why he is not a suspect. why can't they tell us why? does he have an alibi?

what is it about the guy? he is known to break into area houses. he has done a number of breakbreaking an entering it things there. he is in jail now. he is matches description of a man carrying a baby by three neighbors that night adjusting her diaper. it is all very strange but having said all of that, if you look at statistics and look at testimony of the parents the thing that makes the most sense to this day is that the mother did it. that the mother did something to that child while she was drunk and covered it up but this cia guy and his partner are seeing something very different. that is what our special tries to get into. leland: fascinating look to figure out actually to try to positive the negative that the mother wasn't involved but in a sense there is also a couple of other facts here. baby lisa has never been found. there is no trace of her really. you have to think of keeping her face which is angelic little face with blue ice keeping the

story alive as you've done is so important because if the mother didn't do it, obviously it is an if, if she did or didn't do it, if she did it there is somebody out there who kidnap ad little baby. >> correct. that is absolutely right. they never found a body or any evidence. where is the evidence? we don't, the police haven't told us everything so maybe they have fingerprints they haven't told us about but as far as we know they didn't find fingerprints. they didn't find any clear evidence of breaking and entering and yet this little gill is gone. she couldn't walk. she was asleep in her crib. she couldn't get out of her crib. someone took the child and did something with her. if it wasn't the mother, if you just accept for the moment the possibility that it wasn't the mother, and we need to be keeping our eyes open for what is now a missing four-year-old girl that, god willing she is still alive, could be out there right now being raised by a

family to which she does not belong. leland: megyn we'll all be watching tonight. amazing way of moving this story down the road, simply the fact that the parent sat down with this ex-cia interrogator obviously says a whole lot. thanks megyn. you can hear more interview tapes and hear the rest of megyn kelly's interview with the human lie detector. "the kelly file" special the baby lisa mystery 9:00 p.m. only here on the fox news channel. heather: the u.s.-led coalition against isis pounding the terror group in northern syria. more than a dozen airstrikes in and around the city of raca along the euphrates river. it is heaviest round of strikes since isis captured a jordanian pilot who went down in the year last month. john huddy is in jerusalem. do we know anything more about the pilot? >> reporter: heather, there are reports that u.s. special forces

attempted a rescue mission to the got pilot and others who stages in robing can. however even i don't remember u.s. official denied any involvement in any operation but didn't rule out another mission by another country. that said we know that 26-year-old first lieutenant's jet crashed near raqqa wednesday and captured by isis militants. isis released a video showing him and also pictures. at this point we don't know anything about his condition. heather: what about other airstrikes going on in iraq and syria, do we know anything additional about that? >> reporter: well, military fishes heather, there were additional airstrikes, 29 airstrikes actually on wednesday against isis positions in both syria and iraq. 17 were near raqqa and also kobani. kobani as we know is along the border with turkey and syria where there has been intense

fighting since september. it has been a bloody and brutal tug-of-war. in iraq 12 targeted airstrikes near mosul near fallujah, sinjar, also heather major battleground. back to you. heather: john huddy live for us. thank you, john. leland: a traffic stop turns violent. incredible video. two police officers are shot and wounded. later a gruesome discovery made in one of the suspect's vehicles. heather: major political figure is gone. mario cuomo dice at the age of 82. we'll talk with a man who worked closely with the former governor of new york. >> the president is right. in many ways we are a shining city on a hill but the hard truth is that not everyone is sharing in this city's splendor and glory.

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heather: he was the patriarch of

a new york political dynasty. former new york governor mario cuomo has died, died at age of 82 after fighting a heart condition. cuomo served three terms in new york's highest office from 1983 to 19994. joining me former new york senator al d'amato fox news contributor as well. thank you for coming in. >> good to be with you heather. heather: share with us your thoughts and any personal stories you have that go along with the former governor. >> a giant. let me tell you we all know his oratorical abilities were second to none. he could believe. he told you what he was b i will tell you notwithstanding we had our differences in political philosophy and we had our debates. when it came to a number of things, when it came to new york fighting for our fair share, the health moneys that we would get to run our hospitals were always attacked, attacked. we worked together to see to it

that these great teaching hospitals had fund necessary to do their work. they wouldn't be the great giants they are today. without mario being there fighting together. we shared family culture. when i go up to visit him in albany, it was not unusual to have wonderful italian meal prepared by one of his assistants a lady who was a great cook, we had italian dishes, very plain pasta et cetera. he loved his family second to ninenone. he loved to this state. i will tell you one thing was unusual. we know about his intellect. we know about his oratorical ability. we know about his honesty integrity, but he had an integrity missing today in public life. he was unafraid to take a position that bass unpopular. for example he was opposed to death penalty and in the '80s,

the overriding number of people in new york were for it. he never vacillated. there he was. he knew it cost him votes but he didn't change his position. we don't have that today in politics whether democrats or republicans. mario cuomo was a man of principle and integrity. we may have differed on certain issues. i want to tell you he never waivered on his convictions never. >> some interesting dynamics there, hearing him speak you obviously respected him being someone that did stand up for the things he believed in but a lot of areas people they, actually attribute his political career ending after three terms in office to you because you threw your support behind pataki. >> i sported pataki, i thought some of the social programs we were spending just too much and we were not encouraging work

fare which become reality. president clinton bought this about as opposed to welfare. rather than just saying we have poor people. we challenged the system. get people off the rolls. how do you do that? how do you encourage that kind of thing instead of just -- there we had our difference in philosophy. again a man of great integrity and i respected him for that. we clashed on some issues but never on the personal level. heather: right. you turned around and threw your support behind his son current governor andrew cuomo. >> i did. andrew came before my committee. i was chairman of the banking committee for his nomination as secretary of hud. and i said, aren't we better off having a new yorker, who is going to be a democrat, a new yorker who understands our problems, who will work to help new york? and he did. did a terrific job there and when he ran for attorney general i supported him and when he ran

for governor and he has been an excellent governor. many people in my party get angry at me but i say listen you can't have it all. he is right on tax. he capped taxes. he did good things and you know, that all comes about from mario cuomo, love of family. look at that wonderful family and his wonderful wife matilda. my heart goes out to the cuomos. heather: he was almost always seen with her all the time. what do you think happened finally if mario woman americas the former governor, had run for president? >> he could have won the democratic nomination. i don't believe he would have beaten ronald reagan but he certainly would have been a stronger candidate and he helped galvanize his party. in terms of many of the things that he talked about. we do have an inequity that exists today. the question is how do you deal with that? do it by subsidies or do you create opportunity? there is where i think we had a clashing in certain views.

but i will tell you he was inspirational. and he helped put new york on the map doing very difficult times. >> you can tell a lot of people agree with you with all the outpouring of support for his family coming in today. thanks so much for taking time to join us. we appreciate it. hope you have a wonderful new year. >> best to you. great to be with you. heather: leland? leland: heather new york's finest made it clear they are not happy with the way city hall handled anti-police protests. but now as new york's finest prepare to bury the second victim of the assassination nearly two weeks ago are we seeing any easing of the tensions?

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leland: the head of the fbi will attend the funeral this weekend for the second nypd officer

murdered while sitting in his patrol car. officer wenjian liu will be laid to rest. last weekend the funeral of his partner rafael ramos was attended by thousands from across the country. here is the picture. they showed their disdain for mayor's handling of the police protests by turning their backs. it was stunning. one of the union police chiefs is asking the gesture not be repeated n this forum the appropriate protest is not a sign or turning away from mourners or people, the family has asked to speak but rather cold steely silence. pete snyder, former candidate for lieutenant governor of virginia, fox news contributor. marjorie clifton former consultant to the obama campaign and ceo of clifton consulting. many pete, first to you. important to note this was head of captain's association not patrolman's association but still an important request. do you think nypd officers will

abide by it? >> leland, this is a horrible time for the nypd. it's a mournful time. our hearts bleed for all officers and especially for the families of officer liu and officer ramos. i think the nypd sent a very clear message at officer ramos's funeral, heard by the entire country. smoother to do the right thing and be respectful to the family and watch and mourn and cry even if they have to. that will send the best message that this is a mayor that needs to turn things around. the lack of leadership coming from city hall is absolutely disgraceful. >> you go to that point of leadership marjorie, i want to bring you in on this, in the sense that de blasio mayor de blasio had a contentious relationship with the police department from the very beginning. but obviously things have fallen apart in past couple weeks.

union heads met with de blasio earlier this week, that is the police unions to try to mend fences. that did not happen. there was no kumbayah at the end to say the least. as this is happening in new york city, arrests are way down of the police officers themselves are scared but they're also scared not just from the threats on the street but the threats from the mayor's office. they feel like he will throw them under the bus. bus the mayor as a leader owe it to his citizens and bring things together to show leadership rather than trying to go after what he might think is the right thing to do or hold the police accountable? >> well, absolutely. in his role as mayor he is the leader of both the. look the mayor dialogue and solution doesn't happen in one significant. why the police force said, or heads of police force have been saying, please let's handle this respectfully so we continue this conversation in a way that will

be productive. in the same way all of this began with challenges around protesters again shooting, violence not wanted by those trying to create a peaceful solution. this is a national problem. this started in ferguson. leland: pete does this go deeper to mayor de blasio's frame of mind about the police that was formed long before these protests and shootings? >> leland absolutely. he won his office for mayor by running against the police department. his top advisor on race relations and the nypd is al sharpton. this is a direct outcome of that type of advice and that kind of attitude disdainful attitude towards nypd. leland: so far pete, to your point the marielly doubled down on this everyone has dug in their heels. we have to leave it there. up against a hard break. pete marjorie, thanks so much for your guys insight. >> thank you leland. >> search crews focusing on finding flight 8501's black boxes as recovery crews

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