to miss you josh josh we know you're going to be successful in anything you do. successful in anything y." welcome to "hannity." 2015 is just hours old, but all eyes are looking ahead to 2016 as more presidential hopefuls hint they may get into the race. i'm tucker carlson in tonight for sean. earlier this week former florida governor jeb bush resigned from all of his board memberships. his spokesman called this "a natural next step" as he explores a presidential bid. marco rub olympic toldio told npr he is thinking about it. >> i have to think about -- where i can carry out this agenda. where is the best place for where is the best pl

to achieve that? is it in the republican majority in the senate or ultimately president and candidate of the united states. if i decide it's president then that's what i'm going to do irrespective. this is not a gut this is not a gut decision. i haven't made i haven't made a decision on it. i don't have a date in mind or timeframe in mind. we're close to a decision than we were a month ago. >> and that's not all. just today dr. ben carson revealed he will soon have a big announcement as well. possibly about the presidential race. joining me joining me now with reaction our old friend pollster frank luntz and from the weekly standard steve hayes. welcome to you all. frank, give us the quick overview here. it looks like we're moving in slow motion toward a bush/clinton race. is that actually what the numbers are telling you is happening? >> governor bush does have an advantage in florida, but chris christie, i assure you, would challenge that. so would scott walker, i believe he will be a candidate. bobby jindal the senator from

texas, ted cruz. senator from kentucky, rand paul. perhaps perhaps even governor john kasich of ohio. mike huckabee from fox, rick santorum. we're going we're going to have the biggest field fo we've had in decades. there's no clear front runner. republicans are frustrated what's going on in washington and they really genuinely want change. and, and, tucker, i think that there's only one mistake that i'm watching right now, which is the republicans desire to limit the number of debates between these candidates. governor rick perry of texas is another candidate. these guys have incredible accomplishments. and they should have the opportunity to debate those accomplishments, to debate that philosophy. and and the idea that the republican party would try to limit those debates, i think, is a mistake. >> more debate. so steve hayes for 50 years the republican party has been almost in the default position nominated the -- the guy who's run before. not necessarily the most conservative guy. do you think this year will be

different? does an does an insurgent conservative candidacy have a real shot do you think in 2016? >> yeah. i think any number of the real conservatives that frank just mentioned could be considered front runners or will at this time when we have the discussion at the end of the year perhaps be the front runner heading into the iowa caucuses. there's no question there's been a shift to the right. i think money, fund raising doesn't matter as much as it once did. if you look back at the 2012 republican primaries, virtually every candidate including some fringe candidate had a moment in the sun, had a moment when they were leading polls. and if you look at where the country is look at six years of i think failed big government liberalism from the obama administration, any conservative who can articulate an alternative vision to that and do so in a compelling way i think will be in very good position next year. >> so who will the conservative or the republican be running against? lanny, you have come out lanny, you have come out for hillary clinton. probably not surprising you've known her for more than 40 years, i think you went to yale

law school together. but let's say i'm the average democratic primary voter and i'm against wall street and i'm mad about the various wars. why in the world would i support hillary clinton? >> well, first of all, she's the most qualified candidate the candidate that has the most traditionally liberal view in the mainstream of our party. i don't know what you mean by close to wall street. she accepted money from people who work on wall street as did barack obama. >> let me just pause here paraphernalia thet parenthetically she accepted more money from wall street when she served in the senate. i'm not mad about that but i'm not a left wing democratic primary voter. >> as i said if she were influenced by any donor and you had a fact to show that, it'd be troubling. but the fact she was senator for new york and got money from people in downtown new york not surprising. the fact that the fact that she's in the tradition of the base of our party and has been for 40-plus years, it's amazing as i guess

somebody wrote recently that hillary clinton should be attacked from the left given that she's been a traditional progressive in our party for over 40 years. >> don't you think frank luntz that's an interesting point? i mean hillary clinton's always been considered from my perspective and conservative's perspective on the far left fringe of her party. that's no longer the case, is it, at all? i mean that party we talk about republicans have changed, the democrats have changed and moved way left have they not? >> we've never seen anyone like elizabeth warren. she's the one who's captured the democratic imagination. but in the end i think the challenge for hillary clinton is the fact as lanny says she's been around for 40 years. i don't think considering where we stand right now the percentage of americans who believe that the american dream is suffering, the percentage of americans believe the country is still headed in the wrong direction, i don't think we want to go back ward. and i've said on this show as recently as six months ago, i don't know how hillary clinton could be defeated. i'm actually starting to come around, tucker, to wonder

whether she can be elected because she's been around for so long because her policies are the same as barack obama's. the american people don't want the same thing that they've had over the last six years. >> steve hayes when i listen to hillary clinton speak, what i take away from her explanation and rationale for running is i'm a woman and we need to break the glass ceiling, we need a woman. it's a diversity candidacy. i don't see any other rationale for it. do you? or am i missing something? >> no, i think that's the primary argument of hillary clinton and her backers. i think that's one of the areas where she's going to have to come up for something more compelling to justify a run. frank is right. she's going to own the obama presidency whether she wants to or not. we've seen her attempts to distance herself from president but in most cases she's embraced what the president has done and continues to do. i don't think that's going to prove popular as we move forward, as obamacare becomes more complicated, as people continue to have concerns about that, as we look at six years of failed economic policy.

and most importantly for hillary clinton, she's going to have to defend what the president has done and hasn't done in ending the war on terror and looking overseas. i think that's going to be a huge challenge for her. >> let me ask lanny, since you know her being a woman is not an achievement, it's an action of birth. what is the rationale for voting for hillary clinton? >> first of all she's been a candidate in 2008 and the u.s. senate with a track record of being for economic growth, for job creation and for people talking about today's economy we have a pretty good economy at 5.5% unemployment rate and a growth factor of 5% in the last quarter. so we're going to have -- i know so the republicans are upset about the economy, but hillary clinton is running as a candidate of job creation as a candidate of what is the traditional democratic view of public-private partnerships, the bill clinton and barack obama method of combineing governmental action,

lean and mean government with private sector job creation. and that is what she will run on. >> find a >> find a candidate who's against job creation or against economic -- i mean, those are just more sort of cliches of the kind she specializes in. is she against minimum wage? what is she going to do to boost unemployment numbers? >> she's for job creation the same way jeb bush and republicans are, but she's for using government and private sector in partnership the way her husband created 23 million jobs and helped balance the budget. you're going to you're going to find hillary clinton as a candidate of the middle class. if she runs, now, i don't know if she's running yet. we're talking about what is her candidacy about because she hasn't declared it yet. but i do know from her track record she's always been -- >> come on. that's argument -- >> do you think hillary clinton can run on lean and mean government? seriously? what about the obama administration has been lean and what about the obama administration has been le mean? there's nothing there. >> listen there's nothing there. >> listen, i got to get equal time with two of you.

i know you guys are upset that the economy is doing so well and you can't claim that under obama it's done poorly. >> it's the slowest -- >> i'm saying -- >> one at a time, gentlemen. i know. lanny, steve makes a really good point. i mean, she is very much -- to call hillary clinton an innovator, she's not you know, someone who's going to radically rethink the nature of man's relationship to the state. >> you're great at the phrase -- all i can tell you is that the popular polls right now show that they all disagree with the three of you conservative republicans. >> do they? so we have an actual -- what famous pollster? >> -- because of qualifications and looking to take her country -- >> let me interrupt this infomercial, do people support hillary and if so, why, is she

going to run? >> i believe she's going to run. at this point she does have a 10, 12 even 14-point advantage. but at one point within the last few months it was a 20 or 22-point advantage. it's already been cut in half. the fact is she's old enough to be marco rubio's mom. >> but they're not suggesting she is. just to be totally clear. >> tucker, frank is against ronald reagan because he was old enough to be somebody's grandfather. come on, frank, you can do better than that. that's trite. >> but i don't think -- >> it does matter. >> not to speak for frank. you're not attacking her for age, but it's what is the point of this candidacy correct? >> the point of her candidacy, she's the most qualified experienced candidate across the board. i think jeb bush i i think jeb bush is probably the best republican that they probably won't nominate because he's the best. but name me one other person with more experience in the united states senate, as secretary of state and with a base in the democratic party --

>> frank don't you think -- >> you guys have a tough argument other than -- >> i'm going to have to cut you -- >> barack obama -- lanny she's four more years of barack obama. we already saw in this election that was only six weeks ago lanny -- >> timing looks pretty -- >> this is a record number of state legislators who are republican. a record number of governors who are republican. one seat away from the record number of senators who are republican. the highest republican majority in the house since 1928. lanny, get your numbers straight. this was the biggest rejection of the democratic party in 84 years. >> hold >> hold on. i beg your pardon, i beg your pardon, let me get steve hayes in here for a second. excuse me for a excuse me for a moment here. isn't it true steve, nominating hillary clinton would run contrary to all we know about democrat sns they don't want somebody experienced.

they want like children on christmas morning, they want a surprise. they're not going to nominate hillary clinton, are they? >> that's true. they may end up nominating hillary clinton. none of us really knows right now. but i think there's a but i think there's a strong case to be made that she's not case to be made that nearly as strong as lanny suggests, not nearly as strong as conventional wisdom holds. one of the reasons that democrats typically like somebody new and somebody fresh if you look at hillary clinton -- i mean lanny makes the case she has long experience in washington. i can't think right now honestly of a worst possible qualification, a worse way to make your case to the american people to run in 2016 and then say nobody knows washington nobody's been in washington longer than i have. i think there will be a moment -- we will have a moment on the democratic side where there is another candidate who will make hillary clinton look very vulnerable. a week or two or maybe longer where we're talking about somebody as a possible -- somebody who will displace hillary clinton. and the question is whether that candidate will be viable. if there's a viable alternative

to hillary, i think hillary loses. >> all right. >> all right. gentlemen, we are gentlemen, we are unfortunately out of out of time. but i hope you'll come back. thank you. coming up, a disturbing new report. isis targeting mothers in an attempt to "raise jihadi babies." plus plus members of the nypd prepare to bid a final farewell to officer liu this weekend. some top brass in the department want to make sure their officers don't turn their backs to mayor de blasio again. former nypd commissioner bernard kerik in studio. did you know for example it's now illegal in new york state to take a selfie with a tiger or lion? we'll tell you why we'll tell you why as "hannity" continues.

welcome welcome back to "hannity." as the battle against isis continues there's a shocking new report that suggests the group is now targeting young mothers. for more on this story we go to fox's own catherine herridge. >> tucker, in the latest chapter of this recruitment drive isis is targeting young mothers to groom so-called jihadi babies. analysts say it's more evidence ice u isis is taking the long view and understands it will take at least a generation to reach their goal. >> it encourages the use of violent imagery to desensitize children to this jihad and opens them up to the idea of playing with guns and going after the nonbeliever as a valid target for the jihad. this is clearly something

included in their thinking to create a whole generation of terrorists. >> accordi >> according to the middle east media research institute or memory, a manual called a sister's role in jihad recommends martial arts target shooting with toy weapons darts and calisthenics for the future radical warrior. one offers advice on the age old problem of too much screen time. it reads in part "if you cannot eliminate the television completely, then at least use it only to show children videos that will instill in them the love of allah, the love of islam, the love of --." the outreach goes well beyond child rearing to beauty tips in an effort to make it more normal and enticing to draw future recruits. a former fbi agent says the strategy amounts to slick marketing. >> if you can do the same as, you know any other advertising agtd agency, make it look sexier and more elite and faster, you're

going to get people that are going to be inspired to come over. that's that's unconventional warfare thinking. they're getting a huge bang for their buck just by making it look way cooler. >> and the terror group uses social media to reach the youngest potential recruit. tucker. >> catherine herridge, thank you. join joining me general tom mcinerney. thanks, for thanks, for joining us. this is so sophisticated and so extreme. isis knows no limits in their behavior. are we prepared are we prepared to deal with this? do we have the do we have the resolve necessary to fight back against a group like this? >> i don't think we do tucker. i don't think that washington in general has accepted the fact isis is as bad as it looks. we see the vigils. we all watch what isis has done to people. but this takes it to a level -- this is a level out of the hamas playbook. you know what hamas is doing to the palestinian children. this shows that isis has a

long-term goal about the west, about christians anybody not a member of the muslim faith. and i don't think we're really thinking about how we're going to deal with that. but whatever we're going to come up with it's going to have to be something new, something innovative. we need new minds and ideas with new suggestions. >> general mcinerney you've been warning of this for some time. this is not a new development, you say. >> no it is not, tucker. i commend catherine for an excellent segment on that. as bill pointed out hamas has been doing this for quite some time. it is part it is part of their ideology. it jumps clearly across religion into an ideology which radical islam is. now, the real political correct term of where does moderate islam and radical islam, where is the dividing line is the difficulty. and because it has been difficult and we have not wanted to hold the muslims accountable

for this we have politically correctly digressed from even asking this question. that's why i commend you for asking the question. and it is clearly something until we get to the root cause of it and this administration and/or the previous one got to the root cause of what drives radical islam. how do you get organizations like isis, al qaeda, hamas how do these thrive? >> right. well, we know colonel cowen that isis is thriving in the chaos of the syrian war and has been since the start in 2011. you would think u.s. policy would be to bring that conflict to an end as quickly as possible to restore some order. yet that doesn't seem to be our policy at all. >> not at all. we're stumbling along slowly. i see we've upped the ante a little bit in some of the air strikes, tucker. but we're nowhere where we ought to be. we're not talking rapidly about getting this 5,000-man syrian

moderates out there. we're talking about a long-term training program. we're talking about long-term action with respect to the iraqi army standing up. we're hopeful that the kurds are going to fight with their iraqi friends side by side against isis. i'm not sure that's going to i'm not sure that' happen. that's not that's not necessarily in the kurds best interest. so we really have a very slow moving strategy here as yet much underlined it not in any hurry. when this president goes they're going to be happy to brush their hands and say, well, we did the best we could. no, you didn't. america should be taking a much larger active role with more coalition partners to be slamming isis as hard as we can. we're not doing it. and we're going to pay for it. >> general mcinerney, it is heartbreaking to watch isis clearly one of the most evil groups of my lifetime using american military hardware in their fight against whoever they're fighting in syria and iraq. how how did this happen? how exactly did the united states allow -- the obama administration allow isis to

come into possession of this military equipment? >> they were asleep at the switch. they should have clearly they should have clearly recognized recognized quickly what was happening in iraq with the sunni tribes. of course that's w of course that's where isis got a lot of their equipment. the sunni part of the iraqi army really just abandoned it because maliki was not treating them properly. so they didn't have a cohesive government. and that's how they got all that equipment. but i go back to what colonel cowen just said, tucker. the fact is is norm schwartzkauf took down 600,000 troops of saddam hussein's army in 44 days of air power and ground campaign. does anybody think it's going to take three years to take out 30,000 troops? i do not think so. and until we up the intensity and we could do it very quickly in two to three months then

isis would be gone. but we have elected not to do that. >> so, >> so, bill cowen, does this strike you that the battlefield in syria as a training ground for future generations of religious extremists of jihadis, of lunatics that might threaten the united states? if so, are we, the u.s. government monitoring movement in and out of that area to make sure we know where these people are going once they leave? >> well as a reminder the huge deen in afghanistan, many of those guys learned a lot at our expense we helped finance them and later became some of the very same people we were fighting against even now in afghanistan. yes, tucker no question about it. syria is a great training ground particularly when we're not as engaged actively as we ought to be. training ground for muslims fighting from other countries that come there but also as we know from westerners going in and out. and unless we really take that battle to them and put the fear of god in them that everything they're going to do is open and visible and we're going to strike them for it until we take that kind of action we're

just bumbling along as they are indeed building their strengths and capabilities. >> boy, it sure seems that way. i can't think of two more knowledgeable and inciteful men to talk to about this. thank you both for coming on. appreciate it. >> thanks tucker. >> thank you tucker. coming up new york city police department officers prepare to say their final farewell to slain officer liu this weekend. one union leader is asking officers not to turn their back once more on mayor bill de blasio. we'll see what happens. former nypd commissioner bernie kerik will be in studio with his take. last year i want wasn't the terrorism or economy that concerned voters most according to a poll it was politicians. do you agree with that? that and much more as "hannity" continues.

welcome back to welcome back to "hannity." ever since the ever since the brutal assassination of two nypd assassination of two nypd officers last officers last month, new york city mayor bill de blasio has been scrambling to voice his

support for the new york city police department or at least -- been rejecting de blasio. op several recent op several recent occasions they have booed him or turned their backs on him like they did at the funeral of slain officer rafael ramos last weekend. one has urged their members not to turn their backs on slainthe mayor at the funeral of slain officer liu. mr. kerik, what side of this are you on? you've been through the ranks. you've run the place. >> it is the average rank and file nypd officer right to turn his back on the mayor. >> look i understand their anger, they're upset. they have a right, in my opinion, to be extremely upset with the mayor. me, personally, i don't think the funeral is the right place.

especially in, you know, circumstances where the family they say they would rather not they don't want to send a political message, whatever it may be. it's not the place in my opinion. however, there are going however, there are going to be times when you know they'll have the opportunity to make their upset extremely known. >> yes. you were at the funeral for officer ramos. >> yes, i was. >> officers turned their backs? >> yes. i don't want to say i was the first to turn but i was in the top 10,000. >> so i don't need to ask you what you think because you did it. >> i did it because it's a >> i did it because it's a benign and harmless benign and harmless and legal and constitutionally sound way to demonstrate not only my feelings but the feelings of the 10,000 that turned, their feelings and their sense of betrayal from a mayor who through his rhetoric through stoking the fires of anti-police rhetoric with fuel that was

baseless and pointless and unfactual, by him doing that it caused to empower and embolden a coward to get on a bus, drive up to brooklyn, broad daylight, kill two guys having a roast beef sandwich in a radio car. that's why. >> and making a racial case out of the eric garner death. >> there isn't a shred of evidence. >> yes, but the mayor made it a racial thing. how did the police respond mr. kerik? you you saw this week it was reported in the bedford stuyvesant part of brooklyn where these took place police officers have arrested i think one person in the last week. clearly cops have decided we're not going to enforce the law, at least in the way we did before these killings. is that legitimate? >> no, i honestly don't think that's legitimate. and here's why. you know how many cops are in that precinct right now? have been in that precinct over the last week, week and a half two weeks? since the assassination of these cops? that that area, that precinct has

been flooded with law enforcement. the bad guys they could have gone elsewhere. taken that stat, that one stat and saying the entire police department is going to slow down or work stoppage i think it's a bit premature. >> do you think that's going on? we have heard some -- not by name but on background cops saying we're going to stop enforcing the law because we're upset with the leader. >> i don't believe it. i agree with commissioner kerik particularly to the extent he knows that over 50,000 tours, 50,000 tours to man this so-called demonstrations that have been going on since the release of the no-true bill in michael brown has basically diverted a tremendous amount of resources and manpower. i mean, sometimes 2,000 a day. and basically the following numbers as it relates to criminal court summons, department of motor vehicle summons and arrests have diminished as a result of those

tours. and by the way as a direct result of the perpetuation of the big lie. so it all comes around full circle. that's why. th there's no concerted effort no concerted slowdown. it's a manifestation of the diversion. >> good. because >> good. because the great concern is that new york city will return to what it was 20 years ago or more than 20 years ago one of the most dangerous places in the country and that had huge ramifications for everyone in the country. do you see the city moving back to that? >> i think if the mayor continues the leadership he's exhibited so far is that possible? could be could be possible. you know i have known patty -- i don't want to say 30 years. >> long time. >> long time. he was one of the most aggressive cops in the bronx at the time. i can tell you when you don't -- he can tell you, when you don't have the support of the mayor, when you don't think you're going to be indemnified legally by the police department or by the city of new york, you're not going to be as aggressive to go out there hunting for the bad guy, hunting for the guns, doing

the things they normally do. they're going to respond to calls for help? absolutely. are they going to do are they going to do their jobs? absolutely. but are they going to go a step above and beyond what they normally would? i don't know. they're going to be very careful. >> get >> get shafted in that. what about the poor people living in dangerous areas who obviously are the first ones to be effected when the -- >> patty and i lived through that in the crime reduction days. >> yeah. >> you know, people forget when, you know women in the minority communities put their babies in the bathtubs to keep them safe from gunfire. there's been an 85% reduction in homicides and violent crime in those minority communities. they were the greatest benefactors from the crime reduction. this guy was one of th this guy was one of the cops out there doing it. so we know pretty well what it was like, what it's like today and what people don't want to go back to. >> of course.

>> how does it make you feel to see mayor de blasio invite into the gracie mansion al sharpton? >> that irresponsible rhetoric is very serious and deadly consequences in this case. what he did was he dehumanized the police. his caldron of burning police hatred basically emboldened individuals who were bent on causing crimes, committing crimes, and disempowered and it declawed the finest police department in the world. and that's a horrible horrible thing to do. and it disgusts me what occurred. and the irony is and the irony is that the people are going to pay for that as mr. kerik who also was very, very aggressive as a detective and i've known him for a long time, those are the individuals in the city. the good people. th i worked in south bronx for 14 years and the most dangerous square mile in america, and the fact is there were thousands and thousands of people came home after working a hard day, got off the 4 train, went to their apartment, locked the seven

locks, put the police bar on and they were in for the night. that's the reality of it. and those are the people who are being sanctioned who are being penalized for this outset and this effect. >> so really quickly, how long can bratton stay? >> hopefully he stays. he is going to be the catalyst to get through this, i think. i don't think the mayor can do it on his own. i think bratton's going to be the catalyst to get through it. >> say a prayer. >> absolutely. >> gentlemen, thank you. >> thank you, sir. coming up, what in 2014 concerned voters the most? according to a brand new poll it wasn't the economy, it wasn't ice isis isis, it wasn't jobs, it was government and the people who run it, the politicians. what does that say about where this country's going? more on that next.

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welcome back to "hannity." in 2014 in 2014 americans faced some pretty serious issues, the rise of isis in the middle east, chronic unemployment here at home and disastrous effects surrounding obamacare just to name a few. according to a compilation of last year's monthly gallup opinion polls believe government and politicians were the gravest problems facing the united states. joining me now democratic strategist richard fowler and scot scoti hughes. isn't this the indictment of the obama administration. the government president promised would make our lives better but people distrust government more? >> i don't think it's an indictment of the obama administration, i think it's an indictment of politicians. you have republican governors, democratic senators, it's an indictment of the entire system because it's not working because

americans are not feeling the economic recovery wall striet is feeling. and at and at the same time people want to get back to work. and sadly companies aren't creating jobs and nobody's investigating in the american economy. >> wait a second, if people >> wait a second, if peo mad at government culpable? >> not at all. >> people aren't mad -- >> it is a message tucker. maybe this is the only thing that richard, you and i can all agree on it's the fact politicians are not doing what they say on the campaign trail up in washington, d.c. what i think this whole frustration comes from are politicians like ted cruz and elizabeth warren on the democrats, they're getting out there and they're showing leadership, they're showing action. and guess what? they're not getting the congeniality award amongst their fellow congressmen. but in the american public's eye those are the folks that we like. those are the people that those are the people that we're supporting. su but yet washington, d.c. the but yet washin politicians, it's not the status

quo, they're not happy with them. and if washington and if washington ever wants to see them actually improve and get beyond the economy they need to start following the track records of those that are showing leadership and action in their own party. >> so richard's talking point on the left that people wanted obama to fail from day one, i don't think that's fair. i don't take any pleasure in watching the president perform as poorly as this president has. but what makes me generally depressed is the decline in american race relations. i want to play you a clip the president did with national public radio recently. pretty disingenuous. i think you'll agree. listen. >> is the united states more >> racially divided than it was when you took office six years ago, mr. president? >> no, i actually think that it's probably in its day-to-day interactions less racially divided. but but i actually think that the issue has surfaced in a way that

probably is healthy. it's understandable the polls might say, you know, that race relations have gotten worse. because when it's in the news and you see something like ferguson or the garner case in new york, then it attracts attention. >> when you invite al sharpton to your white house more than 70 times, you're not interested in improving race relations "in a way that's healthy." you're just not. whatever you say about al sharpton, this is not a guy who's vested in the races getting along well with one another. just not. can't make that case. >> i completely disagree with you here, tucker. i think this president can invite whoever he likes to white house, but that's neither here nor there. racism is not about al sharpton or the kkk it's about civility in respective communities. that's what's been broken down. it's broken down in st. louis staten island and cleveland. >> wait, first of all, i've never contested the president's right to invite whoever he wants to the white house. i'm merely noting the obvious

which is it says something about his agenda, his priorities, his personal beliefs he invited sharpton -- no one invited david duke to the white house. >> this is not about sharpton. this is about race in the country. >> it's about the president's >> it's about th view of race. >> the key is it's not just in inviting sharpton. sharpton himself admitted he's the one advising the president on the new attorney general. but it's not coming over for tea and cookies, it's actually inviting him to advise on policy. >> what's wrong with >> what's wrong with loretta lynch as the lynch as the new attorney general? i'm asking a i'm asking a question, what's wrong with loretta lynch? nothing. that's my point. >> boldface lying or getting all his advice from the caddies on the golf course. when was the date the place back in the george w. bush administration that you saw race rights, that you saw protests to the level and extent that we are seeing today? >> well, you got to admit richard, if we're being totally honest and i know you to be an honest man, it's a little surprising. i mean, this is not the obama that most people signed up for. i covered obama in '08. i didn't hate him, i just didn't

vote for him. i didn't agree with him. but i didn't think he was going to be the guy to invite al sharpton to the white house 70 times. when did he when did he become that guy? >> we're mixing apples and oranges. if we're going to have a debate about al sharpton, let's have a debate about al sharpton. let's look at the facts, this is about bias and racism and how it's viewed. not saying there isn't racism and bias on both sides in the black and white communities. when there's a no true bill by the grand jury even though it was on tape there's people who think it's not leveled. it's not a level decision and that's where the outcry was. now, let's talk about the peace and protesters. it's not just african-americans it's white people, black people, hispanics, gay people, straight people lesbians, it's transgender folk. and they're all saying there's something wrong with this decision. that is what t that is what this is about. >> the problem is these aren't people that are burning down buildings. >> >> no. they are not.

they are not. you have you have pointed out -- >> let me ask you really quick question. look, i don't think eric garner look, i don't think should have died. i feel bad about it. i don't see any evidence and i don't think you have any evidence, that there was a racial component to his death. because you don't have any evidence. so why do you so why do you keep saying that? why do you keep pretending it's -- >> wait a second, tucker. i think you're parsing the question here. what we're seeing across this country both in the eric garner case as well as the tamar rice case in cleveland, an african-american man who was unarmed, was killed -- >> his african-americanness didn't play into it that we know of. >> the grand juries voted not to indict those police officers. >> you're missing my point -- >> that is where the issue is. let me make one point quickly. >> very quickly. >> -- does not like when we point out the one tea party has a confederate flag at the rally. don't point out the 1% --

>> scottie, 15 seconds. >> real simple this question was about the president lying and sitting there telling people we have better race relations. all you have to do is flip on your nightly news and you know he lied -- >> you have to make everything about al sharpton and race relations in this country once again. >> they're not >> they're not better. >> you're right. they aren't better. coming up, every new year brings new laws. some make you scratch jour head in disbelief. if you live in new york, for example, you better stop taking pictures of yourself with tigers because it's against the law. and don't throw your computer in the trash. that's illegal too. we'll explain. stay with us. p p p p p p does a freshly printed presentation

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welcome back to "hannity." what better way to ring in the new year with some new laws. believe it or not your state governments were extremely busy last year. and some of the results might surprise or perhaps horrify you. for example, 21 states raised the minimum wage washington state took the top spot $9.47 an hour is now the minimum wage there. in california illegal immigrants will now be permitted to obtain a driver's license. also, egg laying hens must be granted more leg room in chicken farms. and you can now dine with your dog on restaurant patios thank heaven. in new york state residents in new york state no longer permitted to toss out electronics in the trash. and what is perhaps the most odd new law taking a selfie with a lion or tiger in the state of new york has now been outlawed. so don't even try it. joining me now with reaction national revun online contributor a.j.delgato. welcome to you both a.j. and

rick. >> i want to get right to the >> i want to get right to tiger, but i've got to start tiger, but i've got to start -- i have to, i have to, i feel obligation with this change in california change in california. giving licenses to illegal aliens. there isn't a distinction between a citizen and noncitizen anymore. . >> i don't think that is true. this has been an issue in california for a long time. there are two ways to look at it. if you believe this is a step along the way to some form of in as legal yi sayings i understand. i don't i lived in california i have been in a car accident with an illegal alien who didn't have a license and didn't have insurance. they took off, i had the license plate. i can never find them because they didn't have a license i think it's worth it. it's not going to make a difference in a status. >> i hear that story. and i think we need fewer illegal aliens in the country. >> but they're here.

like it or not. >> aj? >> let's ignore the fact that it legitimizes their status here and rewards criminal behavior. explain why it is they've had to hire almost a thousand new employees, california had to, to process applications from illegals coming in for these new laws they had to add $140 million to the budget. why should california taxpayers so overburden have had to pay for illegals to have driver's licenses? why is that their problem? >> it is because when i got into an accident, i couldn't find the person because they didn't have a driver's license. i went to the dmv. i couldn't find them. >> and in california, it seems a ethical lobby demands no enforcement of immigration laws >> when arnold schwartzeneggar was governor he very much

wanted to do this. he wanted to do this. there is a benefit to it. >> i wish you can find three california residents -- >> sorry. >> only a slight benefit to this situation. it's a slight benefit that is not justified by cost nor legitimacy angle. it's not worth it. >> what would justify banning taking a selfie with tigers and lions in new york state? >> this one i don't understand. what is the angle behind this? unsafe for the person taking the photo? i don't understand. >> weather the rational here, is that you know -- >> if you're dumb enough to take a photo with a lion? hey, weed out the stupid ones. >> i agree. i'm not going to argue this one.

if you're dumb enough to take a selfie with a tiger you're -- >> bye. >> there is no aspect of human behavior liberals don't want to control. they've said the right wants to get into your bedroom. and california requires consent, requiring any university receiving state money to have a sex solry that specifies what have you to say before you have sex. >> that is a weird one. i think we agree with intent. if you can do things to avoid rape, good. i'm not sure how it works in real life. >> the government should be regulating foreplay? >> that is it. you're going to have trouble getting guys or women to carry on a contract when you're on a date when there is a signed consent from another person. >> imagining that you have the

right to get involved in other peoples' fore play reveals a lot. >> i'm against sexual assault as anyone. a lot of the legislation between men and women is screwed up in america, for sure but this is intrusive. >> that is the irony. this is the same ideological movement saying stay out of the bedroom. here they are saying we want people, as they proceed with sex, we want to make sure the woman said yes. you may proceed we know that doesn't happen in real life. it's ridiculous. and now, we're all getting straight into the bedroom. >> and the trash. what is the liberal obsession with garbage? i live in washington there are laws -- >> and now, the new law if you do not want to throw away electronics? >> that is not a trash thing. that is really smart because there is a lot you can do with

them. you and i talked about this earlier. one organization repairs them and other people get them. i don't know why you want to. there are things in electronics that are harmful. >> because so this is -- so revealing. because it's a good idea we ought to make it mandatory? is that the idea behind it? >> yes. i don't mind it i recycle. if i do trash a brand new stereo system i should be able to without a problem. i own it. >> the obvious answer here for old lap tops is the shooting range. there is nothing more fun than taking your broken down electronics >> that never could have occurred to me. >> exactly. thanks for joining us. appreciate it. happy new year. >> you too. >> coming up more ""hannity"

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good morning today is saturday, the third of january, 2015. i'm anna kooiman. we begin with a fox news alert. unbelievable story little girl knocking on a door of a complete stranger after this. >> she said her mom and dad were dead and she had been in a plane crash and the plane was upside down. >> that story turned out to be true. the breaking details on what rescue crews discovered late last night. >> then president obama ready to punish north korea for hacking sony pictures. here come more sanctions. will that do anything to deter our enemies from another attack? we'll let you know coming up. up. >> then would you put her in the same category as jesus and martin luther king jr.?