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throerd. 2015. we salute you mike huckabee. >> it is a brand new yearn it's a brand new year and the president says he's actually going to try to work with congress in 2015 wonder how long before he writes his new year's resolution. and some prisoners released from gitmo go back to being terrorists. but over the christmas break the administration let a bunch of them go anyway. plus some gloomy news for a agree camp. and an important announcement that you don't want to miss on huckabee. >> and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york. a story about white house officials indicating that president obama was planning on
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doing less by executive order in the coming year thachbd and instead working through the normal -- what a novel idea. a president after six years in office, sudden discovering the constitutional process of legislation that involves all three branches of government. look, i hope it's true but if passed performance is an indicator of future performance, i got no reason to be overly optimistic. my own frustration with president obama isn't merely the dramatic point of view that i have with him over his liberal point of view, its as much of him squandering the opportunity that he -- that's to bring a new u level of civility and bipart bipartisanship to the process. academia calls the study of politics, political skingscience. but real politics, it's mott
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science, it's art. the science would mean that things are pretty cut and dry. governing is nothing like that, governing is a true art and while one may apply principles to the process, no two days are alike, no two legislative bodies are alike and no two issues are alike. quite frankly governing is hard work, it requires the patience of joebbe, the strength of sampson, the courage of david the intellect of paul the wisdom of solomon and the forgiveness of jesus. there is no substitute for time spend building relationships with people who don't like you and who don't wanting to work with you. in the words of that great political philosopher mick jagger, you can't always get what you want. and if you think it's all or nothing, now or never you're going to get nothing, and you'll get it forever. a government doesn't mean
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compromising core values, but it does mean working on consensus the current climate in washington is toward a winner take all mindset, and under that view there are very few winners and lots of losers and especially the american people. i became a governor in 1996 and inherited the legislature made up of 89 democrats to 11 republicans in the house and 31 democrats to only four republicans in the senate. of the seven state wide constitutional officers, i was the only republican. it was by far the most lopsided legislature in the country. more than massachusetts maine, vermont or even california. but as difficult an environment as it was, it really was a blessing. because in such an atmosphere over the next ten and a half years, i learned how to go earn. getting tax cuts shrinking the executive branch and passing
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substantial protections for human life weren't easy. and yet learning how to do it was incredibly valuable. it means taking your ---also means not gloating when you win, and not pouting when you lose. it means behaveing like an adult. we haven't seen much of that out of washington. i'll say what parents p often say to their kids. don't make me come up ---john
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huntsman's presidential campaign and president of the trip scott law law firm. >> good the to see you u guys. >> let's talk about realistically, is congress and the president going to finding the moment to smoke the peace pipe and get this things acting like the government again? what say you. >> the president has a lot to lose, right? i mean he only has two years left, and real real -- that felt to the gop and to many americans like he wasn't listening and he didn't care and he was going to do what he wanted.
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ed, how optimistic are you? that the president really means this. and he says look i'm going to start working with the congress. do you believe it? >> it's a new year hope springs eterj and i think parties can begin to work together. like john f. kennedy believed that when you row least money from taxation and people can invest and produce jobs and add salaries and grow the american economy. >> the leadership has often stalled the process. let's talk about one of the --
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>> they are for immigration reform if we secure the border first. it's and. >> so if we secure the border, then we can talk about a pathway to -- >> tell me about the draths that you you -- the california ladies. i think that we're going to see a lot of you know the same voices and really the president himself, i think he's going to be s.a.l.t. more vocal, he's already seen that, he said he's going to be out on the trail more. he doesn't meet to win another election for himself. he's going to go out and he's going to be explaining to the american people face to face, why we need immigration reform, while obama care is good for america. >> it seems to me that one of the things the president has not done is spend some time working
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person to person, face to face behind closeded doors with member s of congress, members of the opposition. can you kchblcan't win those kbatless outside -- >> if we start talking about comprehensive reform or sweeping reform, we're going to be disappointed. i think that incrementally we can make some progress together. so immigration, secure tiszing the border, is certainly something i think that the parties can worksthroughparty s can work through, to fulfill jobs that are open in america. those are things that we can work on. talks about focuses on jobs. tax refochl. i think we should roll back payroll tax again. give small business an opportunity to participate in the economic recovery. payroll tax roll back means that there's instant cash in the
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possibilities of working people, it's an immediate input to the package of the people, who are working on an hourly wage. >> it rewards people that are working. >> also raising the minimum wage, that we know that people are going to have a few extra dollars in their pockets. i know that we have 20 new states that have increased the minimum wage and we can use them as a test case. why can't we have that on the federal level as well. >> real quickly we only have a ming left i'm going to get to obama care because i think everybody expects there's going to be some reforms to the republican congress. a lot of people -- 30 seconds or less, what do you u think the
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president and congress can accomplish in dealing with obama care? take out the medical device tax. just get rid of it. maybe tweak around the edges. >> medical device tax, i'm with you there, but what i think that can be done is also purchasing insurance across state lines, tort reform. but also explaining things better. this is a man who became famous for the way that he talks and for his ideas. the state of the union coming up in a couple of weeks, and we're really going to see him shine there. >> great to have you both here. i'm going to be anxious to see during the state of the union if it's a conciliatory tone or here's another lighted match thrown into the gas tanging. it's going to be fun to watch. >> it will be. >> it will be.
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great to have you guys. happy new year to you. >> happy new year to you. while you were busy wrapping your christmas appropriates, the became administration gave some terrorists at gitmo a christmas present, they r he sent them home to after stachblt -- afghanistan. we'll talking about that when we come back. ♪
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30th. the number of prisoners left in gitmo are just 127. joining me now foxes news contributor and ceo of concerned veterans for america and pete was actually stationed at one time at gitmo. pete, welcome, it's good to have you here. >> that's for having me governor. >> let's talk about these guys that are being released from gitmo, who are they? >> at this point, we're releasing -- nobody is being released is low risk these are all medium or high risk detainee -- the nine that were released for the holidays again are being -- it's helpful to use a couple of examples on december 20, one of the four that was released his name is mohammad zahiri. he was a trafficker in stinger missiles, the type that takes down airliners. he was also found with a certain amount of nuclear material designed to build a nuclear device.
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he was an intelligence officer with connections to the high errs level of the taliban director rat, he's still in touch with a lot of folks in afghanistan today and that's exactly where we're sending him to with limited control. a second example is from december 30. abdell bin ahmed is his name. he was a senior advise store to bin laden in tora bora. once again connections to terrorist groups across the world, assessed as a high risk, he is being sent bag to kazakhstan, we're not sure how closely he'll be guarded or how much he'll be able to move. as you can tell, governor, these are are nasty folks with american blood on their hands that would seek to do more harm than they ---these are guys guys hauling around a stinger missile and some uranium, is
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clearly a threat to the united states and to peace across the world. you know i'm scratching my head, why are we letting these guys go? and what kind of explanation is the administration giving for the rationale of letting them go. >> you know, when i was there, there were 650 detainees in '04 and '05. anybody who was swept up in the battlefield is long since gone. the president knows that but he is on skeszed with closing guantanamo bay he thinks it's too big of a sin that we ever started it in the first place, he's not concerned about the ramifications of their release. 30% of these guys are returning to the battlefield. i guarantee that number will be higher amongst the hardcore jihadist all-stars that we're now releasing back into the population population. they will have special connections because of their long time spent at guantanamo bay. a lot of them are still in
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touchthrough their legaled a visds sorries because we give them tons of legal support still in touch with those in the fight today. they could plunge back very quickly. and that's the real fear here, is the president obsessed with closing it with no real plan of what to do with these guys expect to get them out of guantanamo bay. >> you were there serving. i went there in 2005, i was shocked at what an elaborate facility it is and how secure, how many billions of dollars we spent building it is there any reason other than politics that we would close gitmo do you think this has anything to do with the new relationships with cuba? >> nothing other than politics to do with this. anyone who's been to guantanamo bay see what is a professional facility we have. how careful the guards are to observe the islamic preferences of the detainees. clearly our president has never been there, he doesn't know what it's really like. he's with others that believe
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it's a goulog. these guys are well taken care of, great medical care, better medical care than some of those in the va. it has nothing to do with their situation and everything to do with politics. their new relations with cuba could be a part of this being a deal, a sweetener in the deal to normalize relations. maybe we close guantanamo bay bay all together. this president feels like it's a relative colonialism. he doesn't take the longview he looks at sins of the past, and is trying to do for whatever reason what he can. >> one of the things i remember the soldiers who are guarding those detainees, they weren't fed as well as the detainees and i don't think a lot of americans ungd ss understood that you point out, they're well taken care of. thanks for the update and good to see you, thank you, pete.
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important news update. you will hear it first here and so stay an important news update here first. be my friend on facebook the links to go is mike huckabee.com. my next guest began researching isis for his latest book well before most of us had ever heard of isis. he's a former advisor to benjamin netanyahu he's also the author of the brand-new book the third target. joel, great having you here. this big is like a prophecy and i know that you're not pretending to be a prophet. but this is what i find amazing you were talking about isis in the book researching it thinking it's years away it kind of slipped up on everybody didn't it? this became the big story 2014. >> that's right when i began writing the third targets with
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researching and writing it last year, 2014 early in the year, it was just a year ago right now that president obama was saying isis was a jv team. not an important factor that al qaeda was pretty much defeated and diminished and we didn't really have to worry. my research and my reporting was different and i wanted to write a novel rather than an op-ed or a speech taking people inside that world. whaf isis got chemical weapons inside syria on top of the genocidal conditions they're already creating what mortgagee damage could they do. >> your novel is fiction based on facts like tom clancy, but it is like reading the front pages of the paper. when you were writing this, did you think that you were fictional story was going to become morelike the front-page of the "new york times" or the "washington post"? >> i hoped not.
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i mean i try to write novels, i think novels are taking you into a world that you would never hope to go into, but in my case i want to forewarn people what could be coming up over the horizon. i sat with the former cia director jim woolsey in the clinton years, i sat with director gosh, former cia director under president bush. i said what do you guys worry about? what keeps you up at night? four five ten years down the road. isis isis, isis. >> they were talking about this before we were hearing the word. >> they knew that al qaeda was morphing anything into something that the president has never seen, i thought isis was a five-year down the road big story, i thought, i'll write about it get out in front of it, it's much faster than killing christians slaughtering christians raping girls,
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enslaving people the genocidal conditions that have emerged in syria and iraq with chemical weapons, it's a horrific game changer. >> why did isis get so powerful so quickly, if you were thinking it was five years away and it pops up in a matter of months, what happened? >> the main thing that happened was president obama's massive mistake inside iraq, because he thought that al qaeda was on the wayne, that was being defeated because he thought that isis was a jv team he pulled all our forces out of iraq, everyone almost everyone was, including his own defense secretaries were saying don't do it. because you're going to create a vacuum, and iraq's military is just not ready for this. people told him, he didn't listen. and what we have got now is a system which the islamic state is being attacked verbally by al qaeda leaders as being too crazy, now, you know, there's a don't behead people.
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now when al qaeda lookslike the moderate, we have entered a bizarre situation, in which really a demonic system is pouring across the middle east and as somebody who loves the united states, loves israel, we have to stop isis, and that's sort of the cry of the book, what happens if you don't stop isis? >> the incredible role that jordan plays in a peaceful middle east, what happens if jordan falls apart. >> it's a nightmare scenario, i went to jordan i sat with the prime minister, with the foreign minister, with the interior minister and others. the interior minister said, is this going to be a clans si book, i hope? he said sit down and take notes. they're very worried, the prime
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minister they're worried, why? because -- they are going to take over and destroy one country after another. and i think given the problems we have in our southern border, it is not an unreasonable scenario, i don't write about it in the third target, but it's the beginning of a series. it's not an unusual scenario to imagine isis terrorists coming in from our southern border to attack here inside the united states. >> that is frightening. coming up, police make life-or-death decisions every day. but do you know how those decisions really affect them? up next we have a police officer who was voefdinvolved in a shooting in a death while he was on duty. he tells us what it's like to walk in his shoes, that's coming up. tells us what to do in she inspires
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hello, everyone. the last of two police officers murdered in new york city laid to rest today. the streets of brooklyn transformed into a sea of blue as thousands of officers from around the country paid tribute to winjian lu. his widow fighting back tears for the man she says was her hero. officer lu and rafael ramos were shot as they sat in their police car two weeks ago. frigid temperatures moving across the country, driving in some areas extremely hazardous due to icy highways a dip in the jet stream bringing cold air from canada. international falls minnesota dropping to 22 degrees below zero today. lows in hit 15 to 20 below zero. the windchill is the killer readings between minus 25 and 45 in some areas. i'm julie baderas, now back to huckabee.
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the police controversies that led to the deaths of two black men in ferguson, missouri and staten island last summer and the consequence jury decisions not toe officers involved put a big spotlight on police making life and death decisions in the blink of an eye. than any governor in arkansas history. but i had weeks, even months to carefully review every page of the case file before i had to make the decision to order a life taken. that was the toughest decision i ever had to make because it was the only decision that i made that was absolutely irrevocable. but cops have to make that irrevocable decision in a split second, and if they choose wrong, they might end up dead or indict indicted. so what does it all look like from a cop's point of view they are the ones that are putting their lives on the line so they
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don't have to. keith bettinger is a new york city police officer, he was involved in a shooting that killed an armed suspect, and he joins me now. keith, this was early in your creek back in 1975, you faced an armed robber, he had a weapon, he had already used it shooting someone that day. what happened? >> we were two officers in separate cars the other officer rammed the truck, he had stolen the telephone company ruk, and we were in pursuit of him through a residential neighborhood, it stopped and it actually stalled the truck, and robert could not get the truck started again and he stuck the shotgun out the window at the other cop the other cop started shooting right there o'from there, and i shot from behind. >> so this suspect ended up he died as a result of that. what did you feel and what did you have to go through as a
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police officer involved in a fatal shooting? >> well, first of all, i wasn't even married two months, so it was a u new family experience for the two of us right then. it was hours of questioning, lots of paper work and the next day i was back out on the street again working. because the department just didn't know any newer way to deal with it at the time. >> it's been 40 years now. but looking back, was it good it a good idea to say go back to work the next day. but you had post-traumatic stress. >> at the time it was called post shooting trauma. >> how did it affect you? did you continue to have nightmares about it? continue to think about it. >> yeah, the nightmares i had two nights after the shooting, i was dreaming that friends were dying around me. not of the shooting so much.
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later on i had nightmares where the gun wouldn't go off, it would ngtd work in a similar situation, or the bullets would come out of the bashl and fall on the ground. >> we hear -- when you go after an officer's gun the officer is obliged to protect himself. then in the staten island case, the bring down of the suspect and he ended up dying from collapsing. i think what people fail to understand is, you didn't have time to hit the pause button and decide what level of force do we need too use. at that moment, your adrenaline is flowing, you're thinking about, i might get killed if i don't fake some action. what goes on in a cop's mind at that point? help us to understand what you're thinking during that
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moment? >> well, what you're trying to do, is the bad part of what they're talking about in a similar situation, say to staten island, is it's going to make cops in future incidents think is this going to happen again? am i going to be in trouble for this? what am i going to do? the hesitation is like you said the seven -- the short period of time to make a split second decision. it can happen again like that, they could hesitate. >> is it fair this we're seeing this backlash against police in this country? >> i think it's rabble rousing on the part of certain individuals to make a name for themselves. >> what training should a police officer have to prepare him for those moments that, you know, you don't go to work saying, oh today i'm going have a shoot-out, i better really be prepared for this. you think you're going to go and write some traffic tickets for
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speeding. but. >> one night i was at a party and a cop was saying i i did this and i did that, and i said i use -- little did i know 12 hours later i would be involved in this incident. >> i just don't think we appreciate what you have to do in the short amount of time that you have to do it. and i appreciate very much keith, your being here to remind us that this is not an easy job for the police officers and they're out there on our behalf. thank you, keith. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. a church sponsored summer music camp shut down because they charged a fee just for the costs. it sounds to me like a government -- but a church pastor is not backing down and she's here to tell us why when we come back. i'm mike and i'm very much alive. now my doctor recommends a bayer aspirin regimen to help
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residential district. now the church's pastor is in a legal battle. all right, pastor, this blows my mind. you've got a glee camp for kids that's good for them, it's helpful, keeps them off the street gives them something positive to do, they pay a little bit of a fee, not everything that it costs to just help out with the expenses, were you shocked when the city of ah burn came and said oh, you're running a commercial operation here? >> dumb founded, absolutely dumbfounded. >> and if this were to stand if you weren't willing to fight it every church in america would be subject to saying they're running a commercial enterprise if they took money to send their kids to summer camp. >> it would set legal precedent, which we can't that's why we're fighting it, partly because we want to make sure that we can continue our own ministry, but also the implications could be
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national. >> what hack theory action of your church family? >> the largeer community is majorly support ty just really support tiff of us. jeremy, from a legal perspective, if this were to stand, what happens across the country, it does touch them whatever they live if there were to stand. >> city government should never be sensoring out, or using their zoning laws to filter out community service. frankly we're seeing too much of this throughout the country, where city officials are using these laws to somehow bully churches into submission so they can't just worship god and serve their community as they would like to do. you can read about several cases we have going on right now from churches to synagogues, that we see daily and we'll see more of as the years go by here. the laws are clear, citizen in
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this country are engaged in act -- worship god and serve their community. >> now when the city says you can't do it, they shut you down, did that mean you had to cease having the glee camp? >> we did it. i mean how could we shut it down. >> so you kept on going. >> we kept on going and figured we would just talk with our lawyer, we have another one in addition to liberty institute. and, you know, just went ahead and started the process, meeting with the city. >> if you lose this case, i don't think you will, but if you were to, i'm thinking even something as simple as having a church dinner and saying everybody pay two bucks to cover the cost of the food, would that be a commercial enterprise with that kind of thing. >> i would imagine that somebody could think something like that. >> jeremy, when a church is confronted with this kind of situation, where their basic
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religious libertyies are threatening, like the first church of auburn. >> they need to understand that not only discuss the constitution protect their fundingmental right to be able to engage in religious liberty, but there was a law passed in 2000, it's the religious land use and institutionalized persons act. that allows churches to -- city officials can not zone out community service and acts of worship. if this city is permitted to zone out this act of community service on auburn's first presbyterian church in auburn's property, they're going to be saying you can't have the christmas and easter -- churches around this country have ever right to use their property to engage in acts of service and worship. >> pastor, i'm going to say thank you for having the courage to stand up for your
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congregation and for your community and for the people. because if you didn't if you were just to say i don't want a bunch of trouble then you could say this happens across america so so we all owe you a debt of gratitude for the courage that you exhibited here and i wish you the best. thank you. >> coming up i'll be joining one of the hottest new acts in country music, the swan brothers, u they'll be performing one of their new hits. that's coming up right after this. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? hey insurance companies, news flash. nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.
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>> they are brothers from oklahoma who used to share the stage with carry underwood and they're brothers from oklahoma and made it to the top of the popular tv series "the voice." ♪ ♪ ♪ an american girl ♪ ♪ ♪ >> and their self titled debut album is called the swan brothers. please welcome zack and colton swan. thank you for being here. you guys had a remarkable debut with being on the voice.
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blake shelton was your team leader. so when he pulled you aside and whispered some advice, what did he tell you? >> most of the time it wasn't advice. if he was whispering something in our ear, all the advice you see on camera, if he was whispering something, it was either making fun of his hair the first thing blake said to me and this is how i knew we were going to get along. he said, man, your little brother has one of those faces i just want to punch. i was like, you know what? we're going to make a great team. >> you and blake against poor colton, that's just wrong there's just something wrong about that, this album has a song on it. we're going to do it today and it's called pray for you. tell me about the inspiration of the song and what it's about. >> when we heard this song, we knew we had to be part of it it just said something different, and what you hear on radio right now, it all starts out alike. and we're like we got to be a
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part of this. it's just a song of hope, which is great in today's world i think, to hear and we related to it, and hopefully a lot of people relate to it. we get messages and tweets all the time about this song and how it helps certain people through situations, so that's good news to us. >> it's great news it's a great songm is terrific. i hope people will buy it on i-tunes or amazon. you can get a little piece of it. >> >>. ♪ i've been where you've been my friend ♪ ♪ i've felt the rainfall sideways ♪ ♪ i've been down the crooked
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highway ♪ ♪ i've been through that perfect storm ♪ ♪ my heart was wrecked ♪ ♪ and i know i know know ♪ ♪ i know i know i know. sometimes you need more than this ♪ ♪ sometimes it just won't do. i ability going to judge you ♪ ♪ i'm just going to love you. tonight i'm going to pray for ♪ ♪ your mama's cried, your daddy's tried, your friends have all but left you ♪ ♪ you had an angel in your arms but you let her go, i bet you ♪ ♪ i tried my best to numb the hurt, sometimes you can't find
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peace on earth ♪ ♪ but i know i know, i know ♪ ♪ i know i know i know ♪ ♪ sometimes you need more than whiskey ♪ ♪ sometimes wisdom just won't do ♪ ♪ well i ain't gonna judge you, i'm just gonna love you ♪ ♪ tonight i'm gonna play for you ♪ ♪ i know i know i know somebody pray for me ♪ ♪ and i know, i know, i know that heaven's listening ♪ ♪ and i know i know i know that
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♪ yeah ♪ ♪ i'm gonna pray, and i'm gonna pray ♪ ♪ and i'm gonna pray and i'm gonna pray for you ♪ ♪ pray for you ♪ ♪ (applause) >> the swon brothers. i hope you will get their music. you are going to love all of the cuts on the album. so delighted to have them here. we will be right back after this. album. we're so delighted to have them
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this is the last edition of "huckabee" on the fox news channel. for the past 6 and a half years i felt honored to come into your home each week and bring a variety of news, politics entertainment, music and great stories of amazing people. it has been the ride of a lifetime. and i have never had so much fun in my life. i have met people i never dreamed i would meet and i played music with legends in the music business. but i also realized god hasn't put me on earth just to have a good time or to make a good living. rather god put me on earth to try to make a good life. there has been a great deal of speculation as to whether i would run for president. if i were willing to absolutely rule that out i could keep doing that show. i can't make such a declaration. i am not going to make a decision about running until late in the spring of 2015. but the continued chatter has put fox news into a position
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that just isn't fair to them. nor is it possible for me to openly determine political and financial support to justify a race. the honorable thing to do at this point is to end my tenure here at fox. as much as i love doing the show, i cannot bring myself to rule out another presidential run. be clear i am not making that announcement right now and my timetable is still just as it was before, later this spring. i agree with fox this is the right thing and now askis the right time. part of walking away from a generous paycheck from fox is leading some of the most incredible people i have ever worked with. as i say in my soon to be released book gods, guns grits and grain roger the ceo of the fox news channel really is the smartest guy in the room. it doesn't matter who else is in the room. roger understands the success of
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an organization is that people in the organization feel bonded by a common goal. they share in a sweet accord and each member of the peopleteam builds each other up. the critics of fox news will never understand that. but being here has given me the opportunity to serve with the professional people in the business without a doubt the nicest people in the business. from my extraordinary crew who run cameras run audio and lighting manage the stage, direct the show and edit it to the people who work in the make upwork and custodial staff there is truly an enviable comeamaraderie in the fox family. a special heartfelt word of thanks to my staff who each week work their hearts out to help put together what has been the highest rated weekend show on the network each week since we launched. they deserve far more credit than me for the show's success. i love every one of them and i
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consider myself to be blessed beyond description to have worked with them every week. i am not going to disappear and i will probably make guest appearances on fox, i hope so but no longer as a member of the staff. i will keep you updated on my whereabouts and plans on my web site at mike huckabee.com i want to thank roger ailes for the past 6 and a half years of support. thank you to you for your loyal viewer ship of the though. i trusted me each week and i try to never violate that trust. i hope never will. that is it for the huckabee show. i say good-bye but as we say in television stay tuned. there's more to come. good night.
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>> good evening and well kwomcome to a "kelly files" special the baby lissing mystery. lisa irwin captured the nation's attention. how could an infant disappear from her crib in the middle of the night? the images of lisa with her big blue eyes were splashed all over national media. three years later there is still no trace of her. there are suspicions most of them involving lisa's mother deborah who was at home that night and says she was sleeping. fox news said
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