responsible adults. this couple is an example of real parents. they have my respect. thanks to everyone who responded. >> we appreciate that. have a great day. it's wednesday. see you tomorrow at 5 a.m. >> "fox & friends" starts now. >> good morning. it's wednesday, diswran -- it is wednesday, january 7. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. congress is officially sworn in so it is time to get to work; right? wrong. >> this bill passes this congress; the president wouldn't sign it either. >> the white house and congress already on a collision course over the keystone pipeline but is there hypocrisy brewing over the president's veto threats? >> it was joe biden who stole the show at yesterday's events from a young girl rejecting joe biden's mushy kiss calling calling -- kiss to calling the senator by the wrong

name. coming up. >> it happens to me all the time. >> could everyone stand up and see if you're sitting on my phone. >> all right. you can be seated. >> who knew this moment could provide some sewers inspiration for one of -- provide some serious inspiration for one of our viewers. the invention that could change everyone's lives. because mornings are better with friends. >> what's really interesting is this program, in addition to informing you is also providing entrepreneurs with things to invent. how can you make brian's life easier by finding his phone? >> when it first started you were finding my phone and actually putting hostile text messages on my

phone. >> a friendly hack once in a while. >> i got a handwritten letter and i'll tell you shortly about it. but you saw -- you're going to hear about somebody watching our show and changing america. >> just like that. does america really need changing? >> certain times a day yes. >> it will be helpful for guys like you who lose your phone. >> they saw the problem you have been have each and every day and did something about it. entrepreneurial spirit. that and more happening overnight. heather nauert, good morning. you have all that for us. >> good morning. we start with a fox news alert. a major development in the airasia disaster. divers spotting the tail of flight 8501 11 days after it disappeared with 162 people on board. it is the first confirmed sighting of major pieces of that aircraft and a huge step in finding that all-important black box located in the back of the plane. dozen dozen of bodies and smaller wreckage have also been recovered.

it is not clear what caused that crash just yet but bad weather is believed to be a contributing factor. tense moments here at home at a texas v.a. clinic after a gunman opened fire leaving one person dead. that person is reportedly a doctor. the shooter turned himself -- excuse me -- turned the gun on himself. that clinic is near the fort bliss army base in texas. the base put on lockdown as swat teams rushed to find the shooter. >> all of a sudden all i hear is my friends texting me and telling me there is an active shooter in the building. helicopters and a lot of guns out there. >> that gunman is also dead. this is the same clinic that was in the spotlight last year after a federal audit showed it had some of the longest wait times in the nation for veterans looking to see a doctor. we'll keep following the story this morning. he was sent in on a mission; a violent gang testing out the security of a baltimore police station.

this man walking into a police station with a loaded gun telling police that he got quote, his orders by what he called the black guerrilla family gang. this puts police across the country on high alert and members of that gang posted threats against police. that man is facing weapons and also drug charges. history buffs rejoice. the nation's oldest time capsule has been opened. officials in massachusetts opening up a 220-year-old time capsule. it was buried back in 1855 by sam adams and paul revere. inside they found two dozen silver and copper coins a bronze medal of george washington, several newspapers and a silver plate made by paul revere himself. how neat is that? the items will be displayed at the museum of fine arts in boston before being placed back in the ground adding new artifacts of our

time. how about a decree of brian's book. >> why would you bury it again? good enough. 200-plus years. leave it out. >> throw an iphone in there? >> okay, put that in. >> i think it is okay just as is. >> the newspaper is the precursor to the boston herald. they were going to open it up -- they were afraid it was going to fall apart -- they were going to open it up and see what's in it. >> speaking of history, yesterday the 114th congress was sworn in. you know what? if you were a member of congress you were probably excited because suddenly it probably felt like after years and years of not being able to do anything spinning our wheels we're finally going to get something done. you know what? this is positive. the president of the united states himself congratulated the new congress and then through his spokesperson, his conduit josh earnest, he made it very clear hey congress, if you try to pass the keystone pipeline thing or change the

requirement on the affordable care act from 30 hours to 40 hours for a full work week, i'm going to veto it many i'm not kidding. right, josh? >> the fact is the legislation is not altogether different than legislation introduced in the last congress. we put out a statement of administration position indicating the president would have vetoed had that bill passed the previous congress. and i can confirm for you that if this bill passes this congress the president wouldn't sign it either. >> welcome to town. >> republicans projecting it could offer 40,000 jobs -- >> the president says 2,000 temporary jobs. >> he's not excited about this. remember when democrats offered up this bill to save mary landrieu's senate seat? remember this? it didn't seem as though the white house had a problem with that and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, he noted the hypocrisy. listen. >> he says it's interesting to note that the president declined to issue a veto

threat last month when a democrat senator was trying to save her job over the exact thing, keystone bill. once again the president is standing in the way of a shovel-ready jobs project that would help thousands of americans. >> you sound just like him. >> steve, it's very true, you do a great mitch mcconnell. >> thank you. >> this is a expoard bill by a -- cosponsored bill. you have 54 republicans going to vote for it 6 democrats. the question is do you get 67 votes to override the president's veto which technically could be a bad move. what does he specifically cite for the reasons to veto the pipeline? they are still studying and there is a court case on how it would or would not go through the state. easy to overcome. round one to you steve because yesterday i chose optimism that things would get done in the final two

years. >> thankfully somebody is watching and is creating an app. >> who else is watching? >> here's what's going on. it's really clear. think about this. the president of the united states is saying to the new congress, particularly he's talking to democrats, hey, democrats, i'm going to veto it so don't embarrass yourself. he's trying to brush them back. he's trying to get hundreds of 60 thresholds so it won't go forward so he won't have to actually sign it and look like the obstructionist that he has been for six years. charles krauthammer says with just two years left on the clock the president of the united states is unleashed. >> the guy is unleashed. he's in the fourth quarter. he's never running again. the reason he's doing x y, and z is not because he needs degrees or is working his way to the left or right. he doesn't need anybody. this is obama the way he really is. i've argued for six years this is a man on the left.

he's always been the most leftist american president in at least a century. but in the years in which he was still running again, he needed reelecting he maneuvered and he disguised. he doesn't disguise anything now. >> we're not going to get 850,000 barrels of oil, 42,000 jobs, even though 53% of democrats 85% of republicans and 69% of independents want this done. democrats have got to realize the president doesn't have their back. because the president is done in two years but they're not. senator schumer let everybody know a couple of weeks ago when he said we shouldn't have passed obamacare that maybe things aren't going to be business as usual. they're going to have an opportunity to show their spine. >> mcconnell called hypocrisy and charles krauthammer said don't be surprised. this is who we're dealing with. we're just seeing the true colors of the president now. there was a lot of going on yesterday that was historic and all that was happening in terms of the votes but

you know who was in the spotlight? it was joe biden. he had three selfies got one name wrong, and couldn't get over how boring the day was. watch. >> i'm gail. >> joanie? >> gail. >> man, this is boring boring boring. isn't this boring? how are you doing man? isn't this boring, boring boring? baby, how are you? i know, and i just swore in your grandson. all right. well it's nice -- i'm going to put him on the phone. here he is. nice talking to you. not enough time. thank you. thank you girls. hi emily how are you? thank god you look like

your mother. man, we both have something in common. both married up. >> joe biden. >> he is just original. >> he had something to say to a hundred different people. >> he got creative. >> some of it funny, some of it a little creepy. >> you can't even slow mo that. it would be too awkward. >> thanks for joining us on this very busy and very cold wednesday. >> by the way go on facebook, tell us what you think. is it really cool what the vice president is doing? or did it sound really crazy? cool or crazy? i want to give people out there the option. go to facebook -- >> or the combo. cool crazy or combo, or both. >> coming up straight ahead, the state department attempting to honor some american heroes killed by

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>> do you remember when president obama made this promise? spoil we help states like michigan build the fuel-efficient cars we need and we will get one million 150 mile per gallon plug-in hybrids on our roads made in america within six years' time. >> grand plan but the president fell short of delivering that promise. because not enough people want those cars, one of michigan's plants, the ford assembly plant in michigan temporarily closed today when the president is supposed to visit it and tout recovery. >> joining us, the host of making money on fox business, charles payne. let's go to the numbers because the president seems to be taking credit for recovery. he had a plan that laid off a bunch of people and they're out of work. >> it's interesting that they're still going to go

ahead with this. >> why couldn't he go to the solyndra plant instead >> here's the reality. we were in a panic time, we had money for stimulus and the president saw the opportunity for two things, push his environmental agenda and safe unions. that is what this auto bailout was. the majority of autos were being made in right to work south. in free markets there are companies that do go out of business but that's part of free market economics. >> did you see the news today regarding cars? mercedes benz u.s.a., their headquarters in new jersey, 1,000 jobs are moving from new jersey down south to atlanta. >> i've got relatives who work at auto companies all up and down alabama so it's been -- those it are right to work states. now michigan has joined the

thing. here's the thing guys. americans want the right to choose. because of government intervention it is getting harder and harder. there is a thing called cafe standards. the government tells the auto industry how much all of their fleet has to be able to get miles per gallon. so they're telling you -- not the customer, but the government, and it's so draconian that ford, which has the best-selling vehicle in history, that 150, they're taking the biggest gamble in the country's history to make it all aluminum so it is light enough to fit the cafe standard. >> light cars and trucks are up 5.9%. s.u.v.'s up almost 12%. when you see the hybrids and plug-ins, plug-ins down almost 22%. >> s.u.v.'s last month are up 29% year over year. the top three cars or vehicles the ford,

silverado and dodge ram. i'm in the market for one of those big trucks. >> ford didn't need to be saved. chrysler was given to an italian company. >> that failed miserably in america. >> not been fully examined. >> one of the great mysteries. >> let's see how many members of the mainstream media today say the president of the united states is in a plant in michigan that actually is closed today because of poor demand. >> you'll be able to count them on one finger. >> don't miss making money with charles payne on the fox business network. go to foxbusiness.com/channel finder. >> you heard about harry reid; right? he broke some ribs and some bones in his face in apparently a pretty bad exercise accident. this morning we're getting a look at how bad it was for harry who missed the festivities yesterday in washington. >> brand-new ad saying it's

okay to smoke pot as long as you do it safely like don't get high and drive but walking and skipping seem to be perfectly fine. is this the right message? our guest says people behind the ads are high. >> the state of colorado has an important new initiative, to educate people about pot. but pot and education really aren't a great mix, and to prove it we sent a camera crew to venice beach which is probably the marijuana mecca of l.a., to find out -- [applause] >> what pot smokers know and what they don't know and let's see how they did in tonight's pot quiz. >> name three supreme court justices. >> i'm sorry, i can't answer that question. i don't know. >> name three ways to smoke weed. >> you've got a bong, you've got a pipe gravity bong is one of my favorites. >> name two u.s. senators. >> i have no idea. >> name two flavors of

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a fox news alert. we're just learning this together. police officials say one journalist is dead. we understand there's been a shooting at a newspaper headquarters in paris. sadly, at least one journalist we know to be dead. three more or injured. police say there were several gunmen wearing masks and carrying machine guns. the newspaper is a french is a -- is a french satire paper. $26 billion, that is how much money the u.s. postal service lost over the last three years. the postmaster general

blaming it on congress and postal labor unions. $58 billion, how much money the new high speed bullet train in california will cost you. the project won't be completed until 2033. >> 181.5 billion, the total coast of regulations imposed by the obama administration in 2014 alone, the most expensive coming from the environmental protection agency. pay that bill. steve? >> the state of colorado moving away from discouraging drug use and now instead telling people how to legally and safely smoke weed. the state launching a $5.7 million taxpayer-paid campaign aimed at educating people on the laws regarding recreational pot use. our next guest says there's one big problem. it fails to address the jaingz -- address the dangers of marijuana.

he joins us today from denver. good morning bob. they're spending all this taxpayer money to say okay, use weed and here's how you do it legally and safely; right? >> our state is moving backwards. this is incredibly disappointing that we went from a campaign that said don't be a lab rat which started to educate youth and young adults about marijuana and not be a lab rat for the marijuana industry to this very weak new campaign. we know that the marijuana industry didn't like the initial campaign and in fact our state invited the marijuana industry to be part of the creation of this new campaign, which is completely outrageous. >> you say that this really is all about addiction. now that the -- i would imagine the state is making a lot of money on the taxes and now they're trying to get people hooked you say? >> look we know from commercialization of other drugs like tobacco that this is a money loser. the state is going to lose

money and the societal costs and the things we're seeing in colorado are huge. this campaign needs to address the growing problems in our state that do include that we're selling insanely potent marijuana that is harming a lot of people, including youth and young adults. >> sure. i remember awhile back on this program i said one of my worries about colorado is i said people were going to get all potted up and get behind the wheel and drive. as it turns out, that's one of the problems. we've got statistics on the impact of marijuana in colorado from 2008 until now. 16% increase in drugged-driving charges, an 82% spike in emergency room visits, about 10% more driving fatalities and colorado ranked fourth in the nation in youth marijuana use. one final one 32% jump in student suspension. that's all troubling. >> the list is long. and this is the message that's not getting out.

what's happening in colorado is it's harming a lot of different populations. we're seeing a lot of costs as you mentioned. we have more hospitalizations, more emergency room visits, auto fatalities. we have arapaho house, a substance abuse program here in colorado, saw a 66% increase in teen admissions for marijuana from 2011-2014. i met just a few weeks ago with her mom and her 19-year-old son who just finished drug treatment who talked about how incredibly potent and dangerous the marijuana is we're selling here in colorado. and the people of colorado are not seeing these stories. and here's our state partnering with the marijuana industry that is mass producing marijuana gummy bears cupcakes and soda, having them involved in a campaign that is supposed to be addressing youth use. it is insane. >> if it was just pot selling it. but if they're dressing it up like gummy bears,

cupcakes and soda like you said, what target audience would that be? sounds like kids. >> i've worked in tobacco prevention for more than 20 years, and this, i say, is the tobacco industry all over again. that's why i got involved in this issue. they were telling us joe camel for years wasn't about targeting kids. and the marijuana industry who was invited to be part of this campaign, has been spent the last year telling us that marijuana gummy bears, cupcakes and lollipops aren't about targeting our children. it's incredible. >> it is happening now in colorado. bob doyle thanks for getting up so early. >> thank you. >> what do you think? e-mail us friends@foxnews.com. the government is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to help illegal migrants get driver's licenses. but there's one problem. they can't pass the test. then what happens. imagine you just won $1 million in the lottery and

then the lottery tells you that is not a winning ticket. that is what happens to a retiree in new mexico. he joins us live straight ahead. first happy birthday john rich. he's 41. ♪ shrimp? who are you calling a shrimp? that, my friend, is a big shrimp. it's red lobster's big shrimp festival. i get to pick my perfect pair from six creations for just $15.99. so open wide for crispy jumbo tempura shrimp with soy ginger sauce, and make room for creamy shrimp scampi linguini. yeah, we're gonna need a bigger fork. unless i eat those spicy sriracha grilled shrimp right off the skewer. don't judge me. join me. but hurry, because the big shrimp festival ends soon.

a fox news alert on this wednesday morning. new information just in to "fox & friends" of a shooting at a newspaper in paris. various reports indicate multiple casualties after several masked men came into the building armed with machine guns and then reportedly opened fire. police confirming ten

people are dead and three police have been injured so far that we know. the attack happened at the offices of a weekly satire paper. it is the same publication that in 2006 was targeted for running a cartoon of the prophet muhammad. remember that? so far tended three cops -- so far ten dead, three cops hurt. we'll keep you update as the stories develops from paris. >> police arrested two men accused of shooting officers. one of the suspect a gun toting thug with a record of hating cops. >> ainsley earhardt has been following the story all night long. she joins us with new details. >> good morning. police say the stunning 35 second surveillance video showsathathathath uiu&y@÷+és=¥p!á

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the f.b.i. credits 29 tips from the public. one has been arrested three times in the past for illegally possessing knives. he ranted on-line of cops including a famous painting of tom sawyer but in his twisted version he writes bleep the cops. as for kemp, he is a career criminal a paroleee with ten arrests. both officers are recovering at the hospital. the good news is they're going to be okay. in a few hours the police commissioner bratton is going to meet with union leaders to talk about this growing divide here in new york city. mayor bill de blasio was not invited to that meeting. back to you. >> ainsley, thank you very much. it's something for families of both of cops who were shot to say that they did not appreciate the mayor showing up. >> it's incredible. >> unbelievable. but they feel that he does not have their back. >> that's what the dad said. >> all that and more, so much to bring you this morning. heather nauert joins us with that. >> good morning. other news to bring you

right now. california is now the tenth state in the united states to let illegal immigrants get driver's licenses but should they really be behind the wheel? news stats show two-thirds of the 46,000 illegals who just applied to get their license failed the written exam. you need to answer 38 out of 46 questions correctly. under the law, illegals can continue to retake that test at the d.m.v. until they eventually pass. one person absent from the first day of the new congress is the new senate minority leader harry reid. the nevada democrat revealing himself for the first time since he was seriously injured in a bizarre exercise accident on new year's day. he posted this youtube video showing him sporting a large bandage over his right eye. listen to this. >> i get this black eye by spurring with manny by

challenging mayweather. i didn't go bull riding. i wasn't riding a motorcycle. i was exercising in my new home. doctors have told me i better take it easy. >> no word on when reid will return to washington. it is a biblical epic without god. gods and kings was banned in morocco for featuring a scene between moses and god, but the movie just got the green light there because the clip was cut out of the movie. islamic faith forbids any visual of god. >> a tweet said rest in peace and was meant to honor captives killed by terrorist. but the problem is none of these people are dead. the state department apologized and then deleted that tweet. those are your headlines. see you back here in about 25 minutes.

>> thank you very much. >> where is maria with the weather? >> she's outside. how cold is it? >> current wind chill 9 degrees in new york city. it is cold out here and colder across parts of the northern plains. i want to take you to washington state and show you this video because it's crazy. it's a cabin that gets washed away into this flooded river and what happened here was on monday they received very heavy rain in washington state and that cabin was washed away by that flooded river. a lot of heavy rain out there, so incredible video. thankfully nobody was hurt because nobody was in the cabin. the homeowner was in eastern washington, so outside of that particular area. that is a little bit of good news but crazy video. otherwise, current wind chill temperatures. it currently feels like 41 degrees below zero in international falls and 29 degrees below zero in minneapolis. dangerous cold out there. there are a number of

advisories around warnings in place. chilly across texas and california. wind chills are in the 20's as well. we have advisories that stretch all the way down to parts of texas and portions of northern florida. lake-effect snow another big issue as well. several issues downwind of the great lakes. let's head back inside. >> maria, thank you very much. >> meanwhile do you remember when this happened to me? perhaps you didn't, so let's look back. >> everyone stand up and see if i am sitting on my phone. all right, you can be seated. >> that's it? >> thank you. >> if i find it, i'll shop on it. >> thank you very much. >> i lose my phone all the time. >> that was not uncommon. it happened to be caught that time you lost the phone, and the next day you actually offered some advice; right? >> this is the problem with having a phone when you

turn the ringer off. if you leave the ringer on, you can ring ring, ring. but because we on tv, you can't really have the ringer on. so somebody was watching and somebody had a golden state idea a light bulb over their head. >> kevin saw this. he's a contractor. and because of this came wup this brand-new app -- came up with this new app called ringer control. his quote from the letter is mr. kilmeade you unknowingly gave me -- steve, you read this. >> you unknowingly gave me inspiration that enabled a simple state to become a new american business. i am a general contractor and have zero experience with developing an app, but in america all things are possible and this is just one more shining example of why capitalism is the lifeblood of the economy. good job, kevin. >> you know what the idea is? it is called ringer control. it goes on a timer. it's an app for an an droid. let's say if i didn't do

the radio show i'd want my ringer it go on at 9:05 a.m. i'd set it every day and i would no longer have to worry about putting it back on. >> you could set it on sunday morning for it not to go off in church. >> exactly. read this. >> the best part of inventing r.c. is my kids will be able to get ahold of their mother after work because she never remembers to turning her ringer back on. >> kevin, if you're watching right now -- and i hope you are -- can you now work on this project? something that brian loses more than his phone is his wallet. >> that is true. >> how are you going to fix that? >> i've got to get a butler. >> i can only give him $20 a day for so long. >> i'm on a stipend. >> thank you for that true american entrepreneurial spirit. well done, sir. he broke the news right here on "fox & friends."

congressman louie gohmert is running for speaker of the house. he didn't win, so what now? the congressman is here next. >> imagine you just won half a million dollars in the lottery but then the lottery told you that ticket it's a misprint. the guy who didn't win will be here live and he's livid.

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here on "fox & friends," majority rules to keep john boehner in power. so where do conservatives go from here? joining us is texas congressman louie gohmert. good morning sir. thanks for being here. i know the largest defection in the past century here, a big day for

you all. boehner walked away with 216 votes, but 25 votes -- over two dozen -- were placed against him. one of those were yours. you ran against him stepped up to do so. where do we go from here? you go from having strong words against him to trying to work together. how does that work? >> you've got to be able to put aside, you know, problems and work through them and work together. once the battle is over then we've got to work together. and then elisabeth, right after we had just said okay, this is the way it is, we've got to work together to try to achieve our goals. as i said from the beginning, it was never about me. that's why i urged ted to get in. that's why i urged daniel webster to get in and was urging a couple others that didn't. but i don't think the speaker's staff realizes just how close they came to having a different boss. and it wouldn't have been me, but any way right after

that happens we find out webster and nugent are kicked off of rules committee. that's a really rough assignment to be on rules. but we're going to talk about it. but, you know just after we were going to work together after the battle was over, then we're told it's not over. we're going to screw you over. it's one thing when you get hurt on your own exercise equipment but it's another when your own speaker does it to you. >> are you concerned? "politico" is pointing out more punishment is likely to come. are you worried about your own future there? >> if i woke up someday and was told you're out, your party turned against you so you lost the election, i would literally be able to say thank you, god. i thought i was going to have to keep doing this job. i don't have a problem with that, but by golly, when -- and another thing, elisabeth, we need to find out was this from the speaker or was this from

the speaker's staff? i've heard more than one in the inner circle say something we can work together is getting the speaker back in control and taking authority away from his staff. it is something dan lund lundregan talked about when he was in congress and came back he said i couldn't believe how much members lost control. >> the g.o.p. has the largest majority in six decades. we're hoping for great work to be done. congressman gohmert thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much elisabeth. >> we're glad to have you here. thank you, sir. this coming up, first they ban cupcakes and cookies. now chick-fil-a. the health department ordering a school shutdown because the food isn't

healthy. imagine this. you just won half a million dollars in the lottery but then they tell you hold up, it isn't even a winning ticket. that's exactly what happened to a man in new mexico. he is joining us live to

get this our next guest says this was his ticket to a good retirement. a winning lotto scratch-off worth a half million dollars. but when he went to turn it in, he was turned away because officials say it was a misprint. look at it even closer as we

bring in john wise from albuquerque, new mexico. it looks to me as though we got a perfect match. but john, what did you find out about that so-called perfect match? >> they said it was a misprint. there was some smudges behind the numbers and they said those were different numbers. well, i was really disaimportanted in the fact that they said it wasn't the ticket. >> if the ones match, you win $500,000 right? >> it was actually a little more on the total winning. >> the minute you scratch this off, you go in. who tells that you this isn't real and this is a misprint? >> i went back to the gas station and she has a scanner and it says this ticket is not a winner. i said how could that not be? they said it must be a misprint, you'll have to contact the

lottery office. >> did you? >> i contacted the lottery absolutely. i couldn't do it 'til monday morning. actually i communicated with a lady and she said that she wanted to see the ticket. i sent her a picture of the ticket. she came back later and said, we reconstructed and said it's not a winner. i kept asking her, how can you say that when the numbers are there to show it is? >> wow. >> we went around and around for a couple of days and finally i actually gave up until last week. >> they said they're going to send you 100 bucks. here is what the e-mail said. we found a flu in the particular -- flaw in the particular stack of tickets. i did complete a reconstruction of your ticket and it was not a winner. you're not going to sue. but it's the principle of it. they made the mistake. technically you feel like you won over $500,000. what's the right thing they should do, in your mind? >> on my part? >> what's the right thing for you, if you were the lottery,

what would be the right thing to do? >> if i was the lottery, i think they should pay. it's their ticket. i did not print the ticket. i mean it goes along with anything else. if you make a mistake you pay for it. they obviously made mistake and should pay for it. >> just help you in retirement. when you're in business you did the hornable thing and you want them to do the same thing. sorry it didn't work out. maybe they're going to watch this segment and turn around and give tough the 500,000. let us know if that happens. appreciate it. >> well, i surely will. but i don't think that's going to happen. >> thanks a lot. steve, elisabeth? >> thank you. coming up, a fox news alert. 11 people dead after a masked man opened fire with a machine gun at a better race newspaper the same newspaper that ran a cartoon about mohammed in 2006. we are live on the scene with the breaking developments coming up next. and president obama attending the phoenix arizona

to push his state of the union agenda. but he isn't even visiting the v.a. hospital at the center of the scandal. pete hegseth is fired up about it and he joins us next

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good morning. today is wednesday, january 7. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. breaking right now, it's being called a terrorist attack. 11 people shot dead as masked gunmen with machine guns shoot up a newspaper in paris. we are live on the scene. meanwhile, john boehner wins another term as house speaker. but he doesn't have the entire party's support. >> just after we were going to work together after the battle was over, then we're told it's not over. we're going to screw you over. >> so where do the conservatives who dissented go from here? we're going to try to figure it out. >> they're going to have their head handed to them. and president obama is heading to phoenix arizona to push the

state of the union agenda on january 11. but he isn't visiting the v.a. hospital at the center of the v.a. treatment scandal. pete hegseth on deck to sound off. on a lighter note mornings are better with friends. >> welcome to "fox & friends," hour two. we start with breaking news. there has been a massacre absolute carnage at a newspaper in paris. this is a live look at the scene where 11 people dead after a masked gunman opened fire with machine guns. apparently they got away. grn reporter melissa joins us live on the phone from paris with the latest. what can you tell us? >> reporter: we've learned half an hour ago there has been this attack. it was about 11:30 paris time.

the headquarters, the new headquarters from this weekly newspaper, two men have been attacking there and we know that 11 people currently pronounced dead. four other people severely wounded and in hospital and the french president has been visiting the site and just giving a speech five minutes ago. he recognized that this is a terrorist attack and that now we are going in the maximum security plan after what has probably constituted the worst attack since the 1995 attack in paris. >> do you get the sense this could be an islamic extremist because of the history with this paper, having a cartoon of mohammed years ago? >> so this is very difficult to say. there is no sign of who they

were. but they were obviously heavily weaponed and the attack, as you said, the weekly magazine after another attack they were threatening for publishing characters about islam. but it might also be someone using that crazy atmosphere we have now in paris where it's very tense around the different communities. so the president has been very careful and not accusing anyone and asking the society to become united. but of course, it's on many people's mind that it is a terrorist attack and we don't know where it's coming from. obviously from a side -- >> you know what? it could be just a simple coincidence that that is the same newspaper that published the mohammed cartoon a number of years ago. however, the very latest tweet

that the newspaper tweeted out was a cartoon of al bagdadi ho is the leader of isis. so is it a coincidence? it could be. but the president of france has said this was a terrorist attack. >> he went on to say several terrorist attacks were thwarted in recent weeks. >> are there any accounts there of words that were spoken by these attackers, melissa? >> no, not at all. so it was a very -- two person wearing black, very covering clothes and painted faces, came in with heavy weapon and used them against people and now the 40 about people working this under protection. but we don't have any more idea about who they could be. some people in the streets they report that they heard them and they might have been speaking a foreign language or a form of

french. just random quotation from people. >> shear what the daily telegraph says. they reportedly escaped in a black car wounding a police officer, then knocking over and wounding several pedestrians. they moved towards the 19th arraignsment before getting another vehicle and leaving central paris metro station. >> we know that they've been escaping with a car, as you mentioned. i'm seeing pictures of the site. it's an area where you have other weekly magazines and lots of journalists were around, so they posted some pictures online and on twitter. effectively the car the attackers used has been pushing people around and pushing the crowd and causing panic. now the neighborhood is completely empty. one of my fellow journalists said on french radio that it was

deadly empty. it was shock and everyone went home. >> absolutely. we thank you very much for the very latest. once again, paris on high alert at this hour. the worst terrorist attack on paris since the 1990s. the president there calls it a terrorist attack. 11 killed, at least three police officers wound as well. one journalist refers to it as total carnage inside the newspaper, which is also responsible for that mohammed cartoon a number of years ago and the latest tweet was a cartoon of a guy who runs isis. is it a coincidence is this. >> they were reviewing a new novel that contains a book of islam and they think that might have had something to do with it. >> we'll stay on this for you. we're turning to heather nauert for more happening this morning. >> lot of other news going on. it is a major development.

air asia disaster, divers spotting the tail of flight 8501, 11 days after it disappeared with 162 people on board. this is considered a huge step in finding the black boxes located at the back of the plane. we'll keep you posted on anything new that comes of it. a shooting at a v.a. clinic in texas leaving at least one person dead this morning. that person reportedly a doctor. the shooter then turned the gun on himself killing himself. the clinic is near the fort bliss army base in texas. that base now put on lockdown as watt teams rush in to find the shooter. >> all of a sudden, all i hear is my friends saying there is an active shooter in the building. helicopters and a lot of guns out there. >> reporter: the clinic was in spotlight last year after a federal audit showed that it had some of the longest wait times in the nation for veterans who were look to see a doctor. a new plot to tell but involving the house that was made famous by the movie

"mrs. doubtfire." >> i'm here. (scream). >> this time the flames all too real. arson is now suspected in two fires at the house in san francisco. police believe it was targeted because the current owner is a plastic surgeon who specializes in transgendered patients. they say a disgruntled patient may be to blame for that. those are your headlines. >> all right. thank you. next up, on president obama's agenda, a pit stop in phoenix to tout the economy and its growth. >> that's right. the president is set to speak less than a mile away from the troubled phoenix v.a. remember that? that's where dozens of veterans were put on secret waiting lists to hide very lengthy health care delays. >> who can forget that? but visiting the hospital is not on his schedule. here to react is ceo of concerned veterans for america captain pete hegseth.

are you concerned that the president is missing an opportunity? >> to say the least. it's not as if -- that's why we're calling on him to go to the v.a. it's not as if we're calling on him to fly there. he's already doing that. he's got a speech there tomorrow morning. all he has to do is go one extra mile to go to the facility and demonstrate that the v.a. and this scandal is still a priority for him. we haven't forgotten what happened at phoenix. we haven't forgotten what happened in april. we haven't forgotten that there are still veterans waiting on list, like secret lists across this nation. the v.a. is not fixed and it takes leadership from the very top to demonstrator our priorities are in order and that's what the president could do by simply going there. the problem is, you know he's more likely to go to play golf than the phoenix v.a. >> what message does it send to the veterans? as you said, too many times did someone not come to their rescue, too many times did someone pass them over and not get back to them. now you have the commander in chief right here really giving them just not even a walk by,

not even a visit. >> they feel like what they get is a lot of rhetoric, a lot of promises, a lot of talk. one press briefing in washington, d.c ed henry asked a fantastic question yesterday of josh earnest about why he isn't going to phoenix and he rehashed how things are getting fixed and they're better. all they hear are words and promises. they want to see a leader, a commander in chief who stands up and says this is a priority and we really care about this. we're going to fix this because they haven't seen the changes yet. >> the president is also going to go to michigan to stand inside a ford plant that is closed that particular day because there is such little demand for the particular car ford is making and he's going to be in phoenix as well. pete, a mile away at a high school he could go over, but then the mainstream media would start looking at, well, how are things at the v.a. now? and as you just said, they're not fixed yet. >> that's right. and he is entirely tone deaf to this. i don't know if he's in a bubble, not recognizing that these things don't -- you don't

wave a magic wand and things change the bureaucracies where they try to stifle real reform. if their mind, they washed their hands of it. a piece of legislation was passed, except the choice cards that were promised are not going out on time and are not being implemented properly. the director of the v.a. facility had 210 days of administrative paid leave before she was finally fired and not even for the scandal. it was for something else. this bureaucracy is continuing to not deliver properly. this president could literally walk, walk a mile to go to this phoenix v.a., but he won't. and as a result, our veterans know this is good on campaign day to make promise. but delivering quality health care in a timely manner, it appears not to be the kind of priority it could be. this is an easy one for the president. ally-up. we would congratulate him and thank him if he just went there put a stake in the ground demonstrated this is a true priority for him. >> maybe he's watching and will change his itinerary today. >> we hope so. >> it's one mile. >> just go that extra mile, mr.

president. >> for the vets. pete, thank you very much. >> thank you. it's 7:11 now here in new york city. coming up our top story once again, 11 people shot dead as masked gunmen with machine guns shoot up a newspaper in paris. we just learned brand-new details about the shooters. we will share them with you next. then congress and the white house on a collision course over the keystone pipeline. the bill has bipartisan support. so why is the president going to veto it? that next with the two co-sponsors.

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breaking news on the massacre at the newspaper headquarters in paris, word that the newspaper had received threats and was under police protection before this morning's massacre that left 11 people dead, four others in critical condition. also apparently the gunmen before they started shooting with their machine guns asked people their names. so perhaps certain people were targeted. also previously isis videos had called on french citizens to carry out lone wolf attacks. was this one? so far we don't know. >> increasing security at other houses of worship and stores as well as precaution, of course. >> now we understand according to the daily telegraph, and we quote, three policemen arrived

by push bike but left after the gunmen were armed. after a few minutes the gunmen shouted in the street. there was a lot of gun fire and we understand that this is local police and for the most part, they can carry guns. but for the most part they choose not to carry guns. so they were helpless. >> and the associated press is reporting it was in the last 30 seconds of france's reinforced security at houses of worship, store, media offices and transportation. we'll have further details as they become available. let's change gears. the new congress officially sworn in this week. one of the top priorities passing the keystone pipeline. why bother? the white house made it clear yesterday the president will just veto it. >> the fact is this piece of legislation is not all together different than legislation that was introduced in the last congress. you will recall that we put out a statement of administration

position indicating that the president would have vetoed had it passed the other congress. i can confirm if this passes this congress the president wouldn't sign it either. >> but this is a bipartisan bill. the american public say they want this done. democrats and republicans and independents. why is the administration so against it? joining us right now are two senators likely baffled themselves, leading the push to pass it, republican senator john heaven of north dakota and democratic senator joe manchin from west virginia. senators, thanks for doing this. thanks for co-sponsoring this. and senator hoven, what's your reaction to the president making it clear he's not going to pass it if you give it to him? >> i'm not particularly surprised. he held it up for six years. actions speak louder than words. all along i anticipated we would have to deal with a veto. but 70% of the american people support this project. we're gog wait on the merits. >> senator manchin they say you have 63 votes. you might have to get more democrats to overcome like yourself, the president's veto

up to 67. they cite, well the nebraska thing is still in the courts and we are still waiting for the state department to give a final conclusion. your reaction? >> brian, the nebraska situation that they're talk being has already been taken care of. in the bill, we've allowed for that. adjustment to be made. and also the congress people, the representatives of nebraska said there is no problem. we can work around this depending on whatever the court decision is. i'm very disappointed. i was hoping we had the chance of an open process which is what the republican leadership has given us and as a democrat, i'm anxious to do that. we had a chance to improve the bill if we saw areas are we thought needed to be improved. we had other senators talking about good amendments they wanted to put on and the republicans were going to put on of the you would have thought at least the white house and president would say let's go through this process and let that play out and at the end of the day, i'll tell i couldn't or why i do not support it. >> senators, do you have a sense, can you overcome the veto and get the 67 votes that would bring 850,000-barrels of oil a day to the gulf coast?

>> remember, this is moving both canadian oil and u.s. oil from the black area and montana region. that's about energy and jobs, economic growth, national security. we're building a bipartisan coalition. we're going to continue to do that. look, this bill isn't just about good energy policy. it's about an open process, restoring regular order in the senate, working to get things done. the president needs to get on board here. we're going to work in a bipartisan way to get it done. >> basically what i would say strategically, it's the most important thing we could do for our country is be energy independent. if we do that, we see the strength of having energy independence, makes our country makes more secure. that's what we're fighting for and also the jobs to have that kind of control is the most important thing. we're hoping to pick up those extra four with a good process, good amendments, people that sign on and let's see if we can do it. >> senators, a lot of people in america are happy a democrat and republic are standing together on a policy. they're upset what it will mean.

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more on our lead story on this wednesday. a massacre at a newspaper headquarters in paris. word that the newspaper had received threats and was under police protection before this morning's massacre that has left 11 people dead. there are nine journalists from the paper, two police officers are dead. joining us is with with walid phares. he already called it a terrorist attack.

and if they were yelling allahu akbar, they were terrorists. >> this is much bigger than calling it terrorism. this is a benchmark for france. france is now at war with the jihaddists. there has been a number of incidents before as we all know, individual incidents here and there the terror alert was already high. there was a deployment very soft deployment of security. but this is an attack. forget about charlie abdo having published the image of the prophet or anything else. this is a military unit going inside a newspaper's news room with machine gun and killing 11 individuals. france now is at war with the jihaddists. >> their cops tonight's seem to be armed and certainly doesn't seem to be terror precautions taken. we understand that manage was burned to the ground because of the publishing of a cartoon prior. we understand the latest tweet was mocking el bagdadi. but yet, they seem to have paid the price with this attack. you also bring up the style of

weapons that really you find stunning. >> i have never seen and i'm sure other experts in terrorism will tell you and military experts that all attacks so far have been with guns and pistols and attempts with machine guns on both sides, dan and the united states -- canada and the united states. car bomb. but to have a military unit style like the isis style, al-qaeda penetrating a building killing with machine guns, systematically and using antitank rpg is something the world has crossed a new benchmark. >> we hear a lot about lone wolf attacks. what is your assessment here? what can you deduce based on this weaponry and the capacity of those that went in with this attack? >> you know, i have been arguing that there are no absolute lone wolves. every lone wolf has connections, has some validation. we don't know much about the

perpetrators, but we can say now, we can detect this is a group that has been trained to work together to remove first -- the others will move in. the french will tell us much more detail. this is not normal. this is a military cell of jihaddist inside france and i'm very concerned about copycats around the world. >> right. i understand there has been other attacks thwarted in the last few days. has france a country that people think is under proper security because of the islamic threat as we know it. >> of course. the french has been experiencing this for years. you remember in october, november of 2005, there were tens of thousands of militants on the streets burning 10,000 cars and at the time i said very important to observe who are the cadre moving these people to burn cars because a car that is burned, meaning possibly some individuals could be killed in the next wave. now we have it, a few years

later. >> we just got a sad update. now the official death toll is listed at 12. ten members of the newspaper staff and two police officers as well. if they selected this particular location for this terrorist attack this satirical newspaper in paris what's the message they're trying to send? >> not just france. i think the free world now has seen what is ahead of us because we have been so late in fighting terrorism, both in the region because we have been letting down our guards across the atlantic. it's not just in france but also here because we have not actually addressed the ideology and radicalization. what we have now within our own societies are not maybe dozens, but hundreds of individuals who are determined to attack our free press. this is very serious. it's not about abdo. this is about every media in the west that bears challenging the ideology of the jihaddists in

this case. >> paris, france, right now is on high alert, as i'm sure many capitols around the world are. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> we'll have more on this. this has become the number one story in the world. >> security has been reinforced there for many areas in france. up next, continuing coverage of this fox news alert. we are live on the scene where masked gunmen opened fire on a newspaper office in france. 12 people now confirmed dead. stay with us

terror in paris. breaking new developments in the massacre at a newspaper in paris. at least 12 people are dead ten journalists, two police officers, after masked men opened fire inside. at 11:30 paris time they walked

in carrying pump action shotguns and other weapons. after the shooting, they stole a car. they are still on the loose. france has just raised its terror alert to the highest level. meanwhile, grn reporter katherine field joins us live on the phone from paris. katherine, there are reports that some in the french media have video where you can hear fun shots and you can also hear somebody screaming allahu akbar. what do we know about that? >> reporter: what we know is that charlie abdo, the office where this took place, is in a building where there are other media organization there. some of the other journalists in the building had this video going. they had seen these masked men come into the building and started videoing it. it's exactly that which say on the video we hear them saying god is great, and we hear them also saying, we are avenging the prophet. >> in what language? >> they said allahu akbar. so they said in in arabic.

and we haven't seen the rest of it, but the rest is we are avenging the prophet. >> how would you characterize what you know about the paris security, especially over a lightning rod satirical paper like this? >> reporter: this particular paper was already under police protection. it had police protection in front of that building since 2011 when it was petrol bombed after they ran a special edition of their magazine this they said was edited by the prophet mohammed. they changed the name of that. so it had already been under police protection. that police protection had been increased because all newspaper office have been really had security tightened in the last couple of months. there were a loft extra police in the area but some of them once they seen how armed these attackers were, had had to pull back just for a couple of minutes. >> katherine, french president said that there were several,

five terrorist attacks have been foiled in recent weeks. what do we know about any specific there is, if at all? >> reporter: that's all we know. i'm surprised he said that we -- we were under the impression there had been at least a dozen terrorist attacks in the last couple of months that french police had foiled. they had been telling media. they had been telling people in charge of transport to be alert to constantly be alert. do not let your guard down. so it's been widely known that france has been on alert because they do have a very large muslim population in france and they're well aware that a lot of their youngsters have gone out to the middle east, to syria, to iraq and have joined up and are fighting alongside isis. >> sure. >> do you have a handle on how many gunmen there were? >> well, not specifically as yet, no. we know that there were a couple. there could be more. at the moment, very fluid situation. >> how did they get away? >> they got away on stolen motor

bikes. they rode cars. they are still on the loose. they have not been able to capture them despite the fact that the city is virtually on lockdown. >> there is a report, spokesman for the police union has told reporters that three attackers got into a get away car driven by a fourth man on fleeing the building and drove to northeast paris where they abandoned the first car and hijacked a second, turning the driver out on the road. also, have you heard a report that apparently there also is video that shows the execution of a police officer who was wounded? >> reporter: i haven't seen it. i've seen the reports but i can't confirm that particular video at this time. >> katherine field, thank you so much. you gave us a lot of information there. let's move on. 24 minutes before the hour. >> we'll bring in senior fellow with the council on foreign relations. thank you for being with us today. what is your assessment of this

horrific terrorist attack? 12 dead in a newspaper office in paris. >> this is a real gun battle. this is very far from being lone gunmen who walked in someplace. this is obviously a coordinated attack and i hope very much that when french capture these people, they don't get killed or killed themselves in a gun battle because it would be very important to find out how many of them there are, to find out exactly how large a plot this is. this is really something new. i would call it censorship by murder. that's really what's happening here. it's an effort to show at least in europe, that you can not criticize the terrorist groups. you can not criticize isis. you can not criticize islam. >> and for folks who are just joining us right now we should point out that this particular headquarters of the newspaper charlie abdo, it was a number of years ago, they famously

published that cartoon of the prophet mohammed. eventually somebody blew up the office in 2011 with a gas bomb. their most recent tweet was a cartoon of al bagdadi, the guy who runs isis. clearly they're trying to send a message, if this is related. >> right. i don't think it's necessarily related to bagdadi or isis. that's why we need to find out exactly who these guys are. and how large a plot this is. you were just reporting that it might have been three people. well, when it's not a lone gunman, when it's three, you have to ask yourselves where did they get the guns? there is a report they had a rocket launcher. where did they get that? where are they hiding out? who is helping them? who is going to try to help them escape from paris and from france? so this could be a much larger operation. i'm sure that's something the french are looking into right now. you just reported correctly that

there were about a dozen other plots in the last couple of month or two. i doubt these were all the same people. so the french really is a very significant terrorism concern now. they have a very good internal security service, but it's going to be very busy. >> one of the reports from the daily telegraph said that two officers came up on pushbike, saw that these assailants were armed and left. does that mean to some degree that these -- some of these officers, unlike here in new york and other major cities and almost every place around the country, are choosing not to be armed in a time like this? >> well, i think we don't know to say that yet. they may have gone to get help. they have pretty good counterterrorism squads in france. it maybe if these are local cops, they have been told, go for reinforcements before you engage in people that are much better armed than you are. >> we've been talking about some of the video that shows these guys, came in pump action

shotguns. the video -- we're uploading it number the video of the terrorists coming from paris clearly indicates these were not amateurs. these are people who knew what they were doing. >> is that what concerns you the most? >> it concerns me a lot because i think what you may have here is not one or two people, because group of people that is part of a really well-armed effort here to commit this massive act of terrorism right down. this is in the middle of paris. so the french services, the intelligence services and the police services are really going to have to turn a corner here. i think it's going to see what's the impact on french politics? frenchmen ask, what is our government doing to protect us? >> you served in the bush administration for policy positions and the reagan

administration for policy positions. this whole terror activity and the challenges, anything but new to you. as of as we look at france, you can't look at paris and not think if they're going to hit paris, how vulnerable are we here in new york? who what are your thoughts about that? >> well, one thought. we need to make sure that the morale of our own police and our own intelligence services remains very, very high. we want them to be on the highest alert. the french have a problem we don't have. because of the european union rules, once you get in to any country in the european union, the borders are open. so god knows where these people actually entered europe and where they came from. in the u.s., we are able to exercise more stringent immigration controls. but i think one of the things we will see happening in washington today, tomorrow next week is people from the counterterrorism elements of the u.s. government. local police in a place like new york and washington, plus the

f.b.i. sitting down together to say, how do we stop this from happening in our capitols? >> well, paris is on high alert. they're pretty much on lockdown and you got to figure that authorities are worried all around the world about some sort of copycat. elliott abrams, we thank you very much. he's with the council on foreign relations. thank you. >> you're welcome. we're staying on our top story. breaking news, terrorist attack on a newspaper in paris. at least 12 dead. three critical. masked gunmen still on the loose. we're live with the breaking details coming up. and congress is officially sworn in. so it's time to get to work, you would think. right? wrong. >> this bill passes this congress. the president wouldn't sign it either. >> the white house and congress already on a collision course over the keystone pipeline. but is there a hypocrisy brewing over the president's veto threats? we report. you decide

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breaking news out of paris right now. the massacre at a newspaper headquarters in paris that left 12 people dead. word that the newspaper has been under attack since its launch as far back as the 1960s. you probably haven't heard about that. peter johnson has been doing research and joins us live. >> good morning. charlie hebdo, charlie weekly started in 1969. charlie based on charles degaulle and also charlie brown of the peanuts cartoon. and they've been known as an equal opportunity parodist and offender. they call themselves a left wing organization.

they've offended catholics. they've offended muslims. they've offended jews around the world. they've been sued as a result of their february 9, 2006 edition in which they -- under the title, mohammed overwhelmed by fundamentalists, the front page showed a cartoon of a weeping prophet mohammed saying it's hard being loved by jerks. so the grand mosque various islamic organizations in france sued the organization, sued the editor. future president at that point sarkozy, spoke out on behalf of the magazine expressing its support for satire, for parody, for the ability of a free press, and the executive editor of that newspaper was acquitted in that trial. there have been subsequent lawsuits for anti-semitism. there is a fire bombing going back to 2011 as well of their headquarters. >> we're just getting brand-new

video. it's screen right of some of the images of outside the headquarters of charlie hebdo. you mentioned the prophet mohammed cartoon, there is a report that the cartoonist cherub, is in critical condition right now. he was placed on al-qaeda's most wanted list back in i believe 2011 for that cartoon. >> in 2011, the attacks were presumed linked to sharia hebdo with the islamic prophet mohammed listed as the editor in chief of that magazine at that point. we saw out on social media now, i guess about two hours ago, the last tweet sent out by charlie hebdo showing the leader of isis -- >> al bagdadi. >> yeah. with the salutation seasons greetings, by the way. >> they had an islamic extremist issue. they tried to petition and paris

refused. they said it's not going to happen. >> incredibly, they've also come under attack by the french government, back in -- >> equal opportunity offender. >> the french government criticized them in 2012 for being too tough on the muslim community, on the islamic community, saying there should be freedom of expression, but you're awakening strong emotions in certain muslim countries. so they've been attacked by the french government as well for speaking out. >> you hear dozens of attacks thwarted and plots thwarted in recent weeks here from the president himself saying that. >> this is a new war, the war on the media. >> peter, thanks so much for the perspective. >> okay. we're covering this terrorist attack. so stick around. breaking story of a temporary of a newspaper in paris. we just gave you some history and context. the gunmen still on the loose. 12 people now confirmed dead.

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breaking news right now on the massacre at a newspaper headquarters in paris that left 12 people dead. ten are journalists, two are police officers. the gunmen either three or four in number, still on the loose. france's president saying this is a terrorist attack. joining us is fox news

contributor and fox news national security analyst k.t. mcfarland. the president of the united states has come out and condemned the shooting. >> that's great, but i think we need to understand that this is the new normal. this is radical muslim extremists who are going to attack civilians in the united states, britain and france and other countries in europe and they'll do it randomly or for alleged insults to their religion and in the name of religion. it's not just terrorism. but let's call it what it is. let's take the political correctness away and call it what it is because once we do that it's easier to find, track and follow people and hopefully prevent this. >> it's amazing, too, is that we understand what's significant about this is how armed and trained at least two gunmen, maybe more seemed to be. not only did they have an attack plan, but seemed to have an escape plan. what else stands out that makes this attack different? >> i think because it's in

france and france where they have had -- they have a really strict gun control policy, for example, they've had a very politically correct stand. they don't want to insult anybody or call this religion. they want to call it something else. these are all crazy people who launch attacks. >> and yet here it is happening in france. i think that a couple of things have happened in the last several months that we need to take note of. one, we need to have a different approach. and we have the new technologies that allow us instead of treating everybody the same start looking for terrorist behavior patterns. big data can analyze meta data, look for anomalies. we have other techniques that can look for patterns of behavior and look at social media and look and see who looks like they might potentially be going down -- >> go ahead, i'm sorry. >> i'm hearing drawing a conclusion here and obviously the world is on alert. france is on high alert right now. when you hear about not painting everybody with the same brush,

not treating everybody differently. i'm thinking about new york city police morale. they're painted by a racist brush by our own mayor here. so how are officials supposed to be on high alert and getting specific looking at individuals without taking a step back in terms of security? >> i think it's an attitude that has to start from the very top, that the united states is under attack not by some country not by some organized group but often bipartisan an ideology. the same way we fought communism burks now we have to understand its radical thoughts. you know when is getting it right? the president of egypt. he talked to the imams and said it's up to you because the people are attacking in the name of religion. >> he told islam to get their act together and told the leaders to do so. i wish someone else here had the same courage. k.t., great point, thanks so much for your insight. >> thank you. you're looking at live pictures from paris. 12 people dead. four in critical condition. continuing coverage of the

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received threats and was already under police protection. >> now more from london. what is the very latest? >> reporter: good morning. french police have confirmed that 12 people are known have to have died so far. two of those are policemen. the other ten are journalists working at the offices of charlie hebdo. as you mentioned, there are believed to be a number of attackers. it's mentioned there have been four attackers they wore masks carrying heavy automatic weapons. they fled the scene in different cars. they are currently on the run. france is now on its highest terror alert everywhere. the city on lockdown with protection now in all public areas of the city. of course, this particular office has been targeted and threatened in the past in 2011 and 2006 because of the controversial nature of the cartoons it's published. interesting to note the leader of islamic state shortly before this attack.

>> he published a cartoon of himself? >> that's right. france is on high alert for a number of weeks now. there have been several other incidents in past weeks. of course none as serious as this. but it's interesting to note as well that several french citizens, i would say many french citizens, have gone out to fight with the islamic state in both iraq and syria. so authorities have been on alert. but this is everybody's worst nightmare. >> from the best you know of the city, how hard is it to shut down the arteries of anyone who wanted to escape? are there systems in place to do just that? >> certainly french police have been preparing for something like this. they've been on guard, on alert for something like this. but this attack seems to have been well thought through professionally planned, if you like. hard to know how much longer these men could go on the run. but i think obviously the fear on everyone's mind is there could be another attack in the planning, as long as these men are on the loose.

>> surely. katie logan stand by. we should point out that today was press data particular newspaper. that's the important day, all the parent staff members are there. according to the big newspaper in paris, two of their famous cartoons, who were involved in that famous mohammed cartoon back in 2006, they are reported dead. joining us now for more analysis is fox news military analyst lieutenant general tom mcen they are knee. what do you think? >> classical islamic attack, steve, and political correctness is killing us. this is a prime example. until we hold the arab world and the muslim world accountable for letting this radical islamic ideology, which as i have said before is as evil as naziism, fascism and communism, it is not a religion until we hold these people accountable and in their own environment as general al

sisi of egypt said a few days ago when he chastised the imams for preaching this kind of radical ideology. so the west, the entire world must hold islam and the muslims accountable. >> we're watching some of the footage now of the gunmen, seemingly we can hear the shooting. these are automatic weapons and clearly the cops outmanned. i'm getting a lot of tweets from paris who say most cops choose not to carry a gun. that thankfully is not the case in new york. >> thankfully. but with the current leadership in new york, and i'm referring to the mayor the communist mayor you have up there that may change. so i think that the world better wake up. we've been doing this for over 13-plus years after 9-11 and it's time that people remove the political correctness and hold the people accountable with global public opinion.

challenge them. >> general, what do we know specifically about the growth of radical islam in france? >> say that again. >> what do you know about the growth, specifically in france of radical islam or cells? >> well, france has got approaching 20% of a muslim population. when you get there, they pervert the culture of the nation that they are in and they want the nation to adopt. that's where the political correctness comes. so that's the danger elisabeth. they become much more assertive and they do these kind of things. now, not all muslims are there. what is it, 5%, 3%, it doesn't matter. these were two gunmen. but it's until that society themselves oust these people, they must out them. we quote as infidels, cannot do that. but we've -- look, our own

president says that the islamic state in iraq and syria is not islamic. please. the political correctness is killing us. >> you know what the message here is, general and that is you attacked this cartoon office this satirical, they're trying to edit the message getting out to the people and the world. >> exactly, steve. there are a lot of different ways that this can be done and i think satire is one of the most important. where is the satire if you kill 200 innocent women and children and you go to heaven and get 72 virgins? >> can i ask you a question general? the weaponry that was used here seemed advanced. what does that indicate to you? >> well, it was planned, elisabeth. they have been planning to do this for quite some time. they knew it. it's very elaborate program. they're missing now. the french will find them.

but the fact is it shows they knew exactly what they wanted to do. they wanted to get the max killing power and they got 12 at least from the initial reports. so they knew exactly what they wanted to do and it was very well planned. >> thank you very much. we were supposed to talk about something else, but sadly, we have to talk about an islamic extremist attack in another major city. thank you for joining us. >> thanks. >> the president of the united states has come out in the last ten minutes the white house has condemned this, stands in solidarity of the families of those who are lost. 12 dead so far that we know of. we should point out it was about 11:30 this morning paris type that, an unknown number -- it is thought to be between three and four gunmen -- masked, entered the offices of charlie hebdo in downtown paris with pump action shotguns and other weapons. apparently there is one report that apparently they asked

people their names and then shortly thereafter, there was some shooting downstairs. a number of the employees were able to make it to the roof. then there was a shootout on the roof. the guys eventually got away. we understand that at least -- there is a report that apparently a couple of the very famous cartoonists have been killed. and children have been evacuated from schools in the area. >> prime minister david cameron condemned the attack as well. >> the president of france says we will be chasing them as long as necessary. they have to be stopped. they'll be brought before judges. he quote, said this is a terrorist attack and quickly scrambled to the scene. meanwhile, we have video in that brings us right to the moment when the shooting took place. let's listen together. (shots fired).

>> allahu akbar! >> so you can clearly hear gun shots. you can also, at the beginning of that, hear somebody, and we don't know if it's somebody on the street or somebody in the office or somebody on the roof yelling allahu akbar. to orient you where this particular newspaper is located, if you've ever gone to paris if you know where notre dame cathedral is, it's just to the north and to the east. it's east of the eiffel tower. then after that, what they did was after they attacked, they headed toward the port metro station, which is to the north and to the east of the newspaper headquarters. it's all to the north of the river seine. right now at this hour, even though police were able to give chase, they did not capture anybody, at least we tonight know of them. we don't know of anybody in custody regarding this so far. >> just a reminder of the tweet

by charlie hebdo before the attack began, character coo during of al bagdadi. >> key were masked and were dressed in black. it's probably not a coincidence that that's the uniform of the islamic state. coming up straight ahead, we'll be covering this story wall to wall. not only the attack itself the safety of the people and the number of people that have passed away and those still clinging to their lives in critical condition, that number right now is four. we're also going to be covering additional security and measures that take place here because one thing about major cities in america, we have learned to respond as if you hit us there we understand exactly how it's related here especially in new york. >> our hearts are with the families of those ho lost their lives. 12 people dead at this paris newspaper this morning. >> you're watching continuing coverage, terrorist attack in paris.

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welcome back. we're continuing to follow the terrorist attack that took place in paris a short time ago. we've just got a new piece of video in. we'll let go to full sound t. appears you're going to be seeing two gunmen dressed in all black getting into what i believe is their get away car. let's listen.

>> after that, police gave chase. a spokesperson for the police union told reporters that three attackers got into the get away car. we only saw two in the video. but as you can see, the doors are open on the street. so apparently one or two were already in t there. then they fled in that car to a subway stop in northeast paris where they abandoned the car and hijacked a second, turning the driver out into the road. >> that's right. our next guest says this all signs are point to go a terrorist attack. joining us is fox news contributor and former massachusetts senator, scott brown. senator, thanks for being with us. a devastating morning for the families of those 12 dead, now confirmed in paris. what is your assessment of this

situation? >> first of all, our hearts go out not family and friends and loved ones of those ho have been murdered by radical islamic terrorists. what does that mean for the united states when you're dealing with this issue in a local manner? what would happen with the senators and members of congress? they would ask to get briefed by the appropriate personnel to get updates. i'm presuming the terror level will be raised here in the united states. always good to be on guard certain low. the problem is that you have people who want to change our way of life. they are trying to instill fear and instill terror and change our way of life. so you have to either hit it one of two ways. ignore it and say i'm going to continue to march regardless into our -- ignore it, but be pro-active. >> are we doing enough here to protect ourselves in the united states? >> well, gosh, i pray every night that we stay safe and secure. i know we have some fantastic

men and women in our law enforcement. the difference now -- here is what we've had this conversation before about the patriot act. on one happened, we are giving up some rights potentially trying to find that balance and structure to keep us safe and also by keeping our rights and freedoms. how do you strike that balance, because you need information. you need to be pro-active. you need to have the agencies working together so they can communicate from the highest level all the way down to the local law enforcement. so gosh, i hope so. this is a wake-up call not only for our country, but every other country around the world that they need to be more pro-active. >> you know something about that. you served on the homeland committee in congress. and there are certain targets here in the united states that are hardened. when you is a newspaper office. this is a soft target. there are so many soft targets out there. they're impossible to keep

secure. >> that's true. that's the nature of terrorism. they want you to be on guard. they want to change your way of life. movie theater, shopping malls airports. we could go on forever as to the soft targets. the key is to be vigilant and diligent when it comes to observing. if you see something that looks out of the ordinary, you have to get involved and let people know what you've seen and hopefully you'll be the next person to stop something terrible happening. but right now, obviously we have to get more information. i'm hopeful that these people will be caught and tried to the fullest extent of the law. >> senator, in the big picture not only is this attack on a major city in a major western power and always mimic if you have paris, you think of new york and los angeles and other major cities here. the other thing is this is appear attack on the freedom of the press. you make a cartoon mock ago certain religion if do you it on catholics and jews, it's okay. do you it on muslims. when who is going to put that cartoon in the paper tomorrow? if no one does, don't they win? >> yes, that's a good point. absolutely good point.

you can criticize everything and everyone except islam and the prophet mohammed. so listen, freedom of the press is certainly something we respect and treasure here in our country. but it's not like that around the rest of the world. the choice is we're going to be intimidated and call it how we see it. i hope we continue to call it how we see it. >> senator scott brown, thank you very much for joining us today. the president of france says france is in a state of shock and you can understand why. number is likely to climb sadly, but there is at least 12 dead. it looks like when we started this story, there were to assailants. we know this, at this hour, they're all on the loose. >> we just ran that video, what looks like the attackers entering it. >> you can see one door is open there. so there could be one or two people if inn there. the other guy gets in. they speed off. police were in pursuit. they chased them to a subway

stop. a metro stop that is to say in northeast paris. then they hijacked another car and took off. >> steve, there was a plan. a get away plan. this wasn't a suicide mission. >> these are not amateurs. these are professionals and they are terrorists and paris this morning is on high alert. >> that's right. 12 dead there. that is the death count thus far. up next continuing coverage of this fox news alert. we saw the video of the gunmen run in paris after shooting that we just ran there. 12 people's lives are gone. our next guest saying it could happen again and it could even happen here

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you're looking live at paris. it is 2:23 in the afternoon there. if you're just joining us, 11:30 this morning, paris time gunmen with masks and machine guns and pump action shotguns went into the headquarters of charlie hebdo, which is a satirical newspaper and magazine, famously back in 2006, they published that picture of mohammed. there was a brouhaha over that. then their latest tweet showed al bagdadi the guy who runs isis. so far 12 dead that we know of. four in critical. a number of the key personnel there dead. >> it seems as though all those cartoons and their mission statement of that magazine, which is it seems to be an equal opportunity offender, has offended -- seems to have offended the muslim community ho have evidently targeted this country and this building before. basically leveling it in 2011. this morning we get up to find out at least two gunmen go into a building. they open fire.

we now believe it is three gunmen, at least 12 are dead. four remain in critical condition and we've been advised that that number is looking to climb. >> that's right. we have new video in to us showing gun fire and sound coming from what seems to be the attackers there and also their escape route. going to watch this first with the gun fire. >> allahu akbar! (shots fired). >> we don't know if anyone is returning fire. all we know right now is that we did get a report from the daily telegraph that cops pulled up on bicycles and pulled out right away when they saw the assailants were armed. >> some witnesses also reporting that they did hear the gunmen shout allahu akbar. >> somebody did on the street or elsewhere. meanwhile, there you can see them get in the get away car apparently shots were exchanged with police.

according to the daily beast the editor of charlie hebdo was not afraid. he said, quote if the extremists are not amused by our cartoons, they don't need to buy them. >> wow. >> joining us is the senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracy. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> terrible pictures and images we're getting out of paris. you think that the rise of social media may have something to do with this. >> it certainly has something to do with the prevalence of jihaddist inspired attacks that we've seen over the course of the past year. i think there is two factors that have been driving this spike in attacks, one which have is foreign fighters going to iraq and syria. the bigger one is the social media dynamics. studies that have been done show they can deepen much faster than relationships in a nonvirtual world, in part because when you subscribe to a ideology, you can

get right to what you stand for right away. there is much more of a cost when you're dealing with people face-to-face to doing so. normally terrorism is a group thing. but you've seen much more lone wolf attacks that have been inspired specifically by isis during the course of 2014 than you normally see. i think part of the reason is because social media can stand in and serve as that group dynamic. >> how do you keep up? i'm thinking this broad reach that isis has and terrorists have in terms of recruitment on line, how do we keep up with that in terms of security? >> it's difficult to do. one thing is that someone -- social media proceed filing, what they're doing openly on twitter, that's public information. there is very little in privacy because people are choose to go publish that online. one thing intelligence services are looking at is how do you determine whether someone is a radicalization risk? secondly, especially when someone might be a lone wolf attacker, how is it that you have a legal solution because when you have a group, there can

be a conspiracy even if they happen to take an act that's otherwise illegal. for an individual, you can't conspire with yourself. >> here is what stands out. here are the counterterrorism expert and one of the best in the country. these guys seemed to be organized. we assume they're men. they are wearing the same thing and there was an escape plan. much different than a suicide bomber. >> absolutely. this was organized in advance. it's a fairly sophisticated attack and one that was quite successful in its execution. it's indicative of a number of things, including that they knew the turf pretty well. i that i when all is said and done and we're able to review what happened, they'll probably have cased this and done something equivalent to a dry run, at least once, just judging from the early coordination of the attack. although let me couch that by saying early reports on attacks even when we have video like we do here, almost always contain a few things that are little out of place. >> we do have a lot of video because in addition to this particular newspaper, there were also a number of other media

outlets in that same building. we thank you very much for joining us live. apparently the families of those who were involved in this are being held in the building next door at this hour by police in paris. >> we're surrounding the story. jonathan gilliam is here, he's not only a navy seal, but security expert. we also have judith miller here. if anyone understands the global war on terror it is judith miller. >> without a doubt. our hearts are with the families there who lost their loved ones. 12 people dead at a paris newspaper. we will bring you more on our top story right here on fox. >> gunmen still at large i'm louis, and i quit smoking with chantix. i told myself for so long that i needed to quit smoking. i would quit then i'd go right back to it. chantix absolutely helped me quit smoking. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix helped reduce my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix.

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cameras catching the moment gunmen opened fire. >> allahu akbar! (shots fired). >> allahu akbar! (shots fired). >> the masked men dressed in black shouting allegedly allahu akbar as they storm the offices of charlie hebdo. at least 12 people are dead. listen. >> there they go. the cops did chase them, but later near a metro stop in paris, they hijacked another car and got away. gunmen are still on the loose. new video shows two guys getting

into a black car driving offment joining us is jonathan gilliam who knows a thing or with about terrorism. this was a well-planned attack. they hit that tack newspaper in the -- attack newspaper in the middle of a weekly conference with all the important staff there. this is the newspaper famous for that cartoon on mohammed and -- >> more than one. >> and their most talented cartoonists -- >> what do you see when you see those men, you hear the gun fire, you see their weaponry and you look at their escape vehicle, what do you assess? >> what i'm looking at there have individuals dressed alike that the biggest thing that stood out when i was listening to it is the fact that they weren't just praying and spraying. not just throwing rounds down range. these were very targeted assassinations of people. the next thing the fact that they had the -- the car was staged there. they went right back to the car. they're not looking panicked right there. they're going right back to it.

what i'm seeing are people that are trained. then the fact that they're yelling the familiar phrase allahu akbar. all these things show me that we're dealing with people that most likely were trained. >> when you see something like that happen, from what we assess, it's still early, do you say that will never happen here or boy that could happen here? >> so the next thing we look at now is the fact that it happened on a regular day at a place that was known to have a high threat to it and it just shows that first off, you can't secure everything 100%. and if this place is being targeted, they have to take more precautions and to throw everybody in there that's responsible for these cartoon. >> obviously it wasn't enough. bad guys blew up the building in 2011. they had been under some sort of surveillance by the police today supposedly, and yet this happened. >> right. see, cops can't do everything. here is where the terrorists always have -- let's just say

the attackers the. let's take the word terrorist out. this is a terrorist strike, but also this was a very focused strategic attack. >> were they more military than -- >> it looks like assassination. it will spread terror, but i think the main goal was to get the people and get revenge to those people. >> what do you think about the machinery that was used, the weaponry used? what does that say to you? >> they're long guns, but it looks -- i don't know what weapons they are, but the way that they utilize them, i see training. the way they're moving with them back to the car, they have some muzzle discipline. but what we need to start looking at right here, that's the third thing we need to look at real quick is that this just happened over here coordinated attacks do happen in multiple countries. we need to start look, instead of raising our awareness of the nypd, we need to shut times square down to traffic. >> right now, you would prefer that times square be shut down in response to what's happening in paris?

>> i just drove through there in a cab. >> and it bothers you it's not? >> terrifies me. >> that it's not? >> that it's not. the ease of doing what they just did, but literally taking out ten times that amount of people this afternoon, that easily. >> you think we should be on high alert? >> i believe so. >> from the security perspective, isn't that giving the terrorists what they want. get three guys together and paralyze every western city? >> our ability to act quickly by doing these things and having plans to do it we're not in a day where we can just say we can't give the bad guys a leg up. we need to start looking at ourselves as somebody who is a victim to it and actually defending or setting up proper defenses. >> we've been listening to jonathan gilliam, joining us live here in the studio former f.b.i. special act and he's going to stay with us. meanwhile, let's include judy miller, fox news contributor. she spent a lot of time in europe. your observation regarding this terrorist attack?

>> well, i understand why jonathan says what he says about america, but i think that if you start closing down your major streets, your major buildings you start saying to newspapers, maybe you don't want to publish that cartoon the terrorists win. >> i'll tell you that, is certainly going to be the message that the terrorists want you to take and many will take. grab the christians doesn't matter. don't worry about make fun of the jews. keep mohammed out of this. that's the message with this attack. >> i lived in paris and we weathered the first round of extremist attacks. now we're seeing -- >> when was that? >> in the mid '80s. but i have to point out that france may be vulnerable in a way that the united states is not. >> why? >> france has 5 to 6 million muslims, many of whom, 2 million of whom are is said to be previouses and -- >> believers in? >> followers. and the others who are maybe muslim in name only. but the french have had a

long-standing problem because of their algerian war because of their actions in the middle east, because of their support for american policy. and they have a very strong police presence that has been worried about their muslima long, long time the french police are very, very good. and what terrify me about what's happening is that this -- if this could happen with perhaps police protection, we don't know near a major throw father -- >> tell me about that area. it's very heavily trafficked and the french police may have been there. we believe they were. look, this charlie hebdo has been under threat for as long as i can remember. let's remember how this whole thing begins. it begins militant islamic threat begins with salamon rushdie, something he wrote that offended and it results in a fat goes ah. this has always been their m.o. you don't have to be an extremist muslim to be sensitive

about what's said about you. look at egypt, for example, had is now in the hands of a military man who was elected president. he banned exodus because he didn't like a movie that said that the jews helped build the here amends. muslims are enormously sensitive to what they perceive as slights. charlie hebdo has never taken prisoners. they always go after the tyrants, those who hate those who spread extremist. they were a natural target. they would have had protection. >> do you believe that they will carry on? >> i think they will certainly carry on of the they have been around since the 18th century. they made fun of charles degaulle, who was the top leader ever and the most controversial. they will carry on. >> unfortunately, according to the news reports out of france, it sounds like some of the top cartoonists in that country have been murdered this morning. >> absolutely. and this is a terrible price the price one pays when one fights islamic extremism. but we cannot abandon this fight

and i think it reinforces the need to take this struggle to the places where isis lives. >> jonathan, let me ask you this. isis videos have called on french citizens to carry out lone wolf attacks. does video like this showing the get away, showing the shots, showing the allahu akbar what does that do for the jihad? >> just like when i was young and training to go into the seal teams, i used to watch videos that motivated me so i would run ten miles a day training to go in there. that's what it does. when they see these type of things and somebody is on that cusp of new religion or they've been there for a while and all of a sudden inspired and they're on that cusp, these types of videos embolden those people, inspires -- >> makes them say what? >> i want to be a hero like this guy. >> and in bulk. right now the new frontier of the recruitment is the internet and it's broader. >> that's right. it magnifies it. but the problem is the extraordinary sensitivity to,

quote, perceived attacks on the prophet. and in the modern 21st century world, we can not allow this to happen. >> being more sensitive is not the answer. >> it's not the answer. >> we identified a large target in this world, which is the media, whether it's the thing with sony in north korea. now this. we did not really have this issue before this last year. >> great point. i want to you stay right there. because we want your instant analysis and more video to review and judith, if you would stick around. >> thank you. terrorist attack in paris, at least 12 dead. continuing coverage right here on the fox news channel

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in paris. joining us now on the phone for the american islamic forum for democracy is dr. jasser. right now we know that 12 innocents have been killed. we're looking at four others in critical condition. what stands out to you about this terrorist attack in the heart of paris? >> our prayers go to all of those killed. it reminds us at the front line in this battle against radical islam is free speech. our journalist, those willing to push the line to protect them and stand for it. the fact that we won't back down. this newspaper was fire bombed in 2011. we know that our military has been on the front lines as we saw in fort hood. and our parliaments in canada and now we're reminded that our media are also sticking their necks out. we're also reminded i've heard in symptom coverage that they had 24/7 protection at this newspaper since 2011 and they just pulled it back a few weeks

ago. so makes you just -- your heart breaks that this happens right after that. >> it does. globally, things just seem to be getting worse. >> they really are. and because our leadership in the west has not been willing to face the problem of political islam and its lack of modernity you see movements which had demonstrations in germany of 10 to 20,000 europeans saying we won't take this anymore. we want to stand for our nationalism, our country needs to be protected from this radicalism and unfortunately, that may not be the solution. but they don't know what to do because the leadership is not providing a strategy. >> so you're saying in germany, the leadership there has pushed back against those who want to rise up against the wave of new islamic immigrants coming into their country. correct? >> yeah. i mean, the chancellor there rejected that movement as being phobic, which it may have some elements to it.

but that's not the way to respond to it. you're seeing basically violence act out as we saw in australia and elsewhere and they're not addressing the problem and the people are taking it into their own hands, which is creating these violent breakouts. >> absolutely. of course, this is making headlines around the world with at least a dozen people murdered in cold blood. you were telling one of our producers about how things are heating up throughout europe and you cited a mosque being attacked in sweden that we hadn't even heard about. >> yeah. there was a fire bomb, a mosque no one was injured. we're not sure what the sources of that were yet. it just happened a few days ago. and this is a sign of the fact that again, this doesn't in any way legit maze any of this type of horrific act, but we have to remember that as long as our leadership doesn't address the radicalization of groups like

isis and individuals who can no longer go to syria because of the prevention of their travel and now they are acting out in their homeland, as we see in france and australia and elsewhere, and the response from citizen when is their governments don't act is going to be to march, as we've seen in this movement, and unfortunately, some are also going to act out as we saw in sweden. >> are you saying that political correctness is putting us at greater risk globally? >> it is because if you can't discuss the problem publicly and say, what is it about isis, what is it about these jihaddists that's making them hate the west if you can't address that then the problem will fester and boil like a pressure cooker and explode. >> are you a muslim? >> yeah, i'm a drought muslim. that's why we formed our forum was to fight against the ideology that fuel these radicals. >> have you been targeted because you say the things you say? >> we have. that's the other thing i'm reminded is this attack against the media, we are seeing the

same thing as these brave journalists in that we want to be able to criticize those leaders in our faith, those imams who don't believe in western society and our freedom. >> we thank you very much for joining us. as you're looking, brand-new images, as you can see emergency personnel taking to the hospital some of the survivors. we do know that at least 12 people have been murdered. four are in critical condition. as you can see in the heart of paris. >> steve, as you brought up four of the nation's leading cartoonists are among the 12 dead. coming up, our next guest, a ranking democrat in the national security subcommittee, joins us with what congress has on the agenda now to make sure an attack like this does not happen here i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000

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we will have new breaking details and get brand-new reaction directly from the white house at the top of the hour. a terrorist attack underway in paris. these killers are on the loose and they are armed and dangerous. we're going to have live coverage of the active manhunt. our top terror experts and reporters on the scene will be joining bill and i as we join you at the top of the hour. now back to you in the studio. brian, elisabeth and steve. >> all right. fox news alert. 12 dead in paris, france where gunmen stormed a satirical newspaper office. joining us is congressman walter jones and steven lynch from massachusetts who is the ranking democrat on the national security subcommittee. congressman lynch, any newspaper in america if armed gunmen with machine guns walked into it, they'd get into it. there are a lot of soft targets in this country. what can we do here? >> you're absolutely right. this attack is an attack on the

essence of democracy and freedom of the press. so it certain israeli alarming. we have resourced to local state and national law enforcement the ability to deal with some of these issues. but obviously the nature of this attack is so brutal and so targeted and apparently very professional that it's something we definitely need to be concerned about. but again, i think congress has already resourced a lot of those operations and now we'll work with our counter parties, executives and see if there are gaps that need to be filled, we'll try to fill those. but i think the department of homeland security and the affiliated agencies have already anticipated this teach attack. >> are you indicating there that that process will be expedited to be more by law to keep the united states safe congressman

jones? >> i don't want to see that it would be expedited because this has been an ongoing, deep concern of the united states congress of how we're going to protect the american people from these terrorists. so i would say that at this event that's happening in france will continue to encourage the congress to do everything possible, to give the resources so that we can do what is necessary to protect the american people. >> sure. congressmen, we thank you very much. we were going to talk about something else, but given the terrorist attack in paris, we thank you very much for your time and expertise. >> thank you. >> we'll have you both back to talk about that as soon as things settle down and we get more facts about this. continuing coverage of our top story. >> 12 people dead. many more hurt as islamic gunmen storm a newspaper. gun fire spill into the streets. could this happen here in the united states? former f.b.i. special agent jonathan gilliam will join us. we'll be right back

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we're now on some of this video in the after the show show. we'll see you back here tomorrow >> we continue breaking news coveraged. gunman on the loose if paris. at least a dozen are dead when masked men armed with automatic weapons storm a satirical newspaper that published cartoons of the prophet mohammed. this is part of eyewitness records we've seen sew far here. [gunfire] david: i'm bill. bill: he calls it a terror