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we were told, at least naming the three that were involved the 18-year-old, all of them french nationals, all of them considered muslim consent. all we are told very angry and clearly, very aware of what they were doing and how they were going to do it much more on this on fbn at 8:00. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." western civilization is on notice, islamic extremists will kill us if we speak our minds and it offends them. including it's editor and two police officers. all three suspects are now on the run, french reports say the
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terrorists have been identified as two brothers both french nationals and a third who is homeless, ages 18, 32 and 34, the publication has a history of answering angry muslims with some of its cartoons. the last tweet sent out was a cartoon mocking the isis thug, al baghdadi saying, and they were taking a shot at him. dana, you point out that there was only an hour before the attack. >> they knew this was coming, they had heard about it. >> they have been bombed before. they had
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killed, look at the cartoons, they were up on our website right now, take a look at them print them out, send them to your friends, you cannot cave to these cave men, you've got to make sure that everybody sees that everybody accepts these insecure little heathens. think about the afterfront to their christianity to mormonism, for example. nobody does anything they don't behead anybody. >> we laugh. >> how insecure are you about your god, that this is what drys you to kill. if a cartoon offends you, imagine how weak you really are. >> will satire change, how clearly we're going to say, absolutely shouldn't will people be, will satirists be
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more -- >> especially i would like to see the media, especially. in hollywood, remember how brave hollywood was over the seth rogan movie, the interview. let's put it out there, let's play it for free. why don't you do that with the cartoons, stand up or shut u up show the cartoons i would love to see mass demonstrations from free speech from nonviolent muslims. where's care, stop putting out the press releases and get to the streets. >> dana, talk to us a little bit, there were some reports in the aftermath of these 12 people massacred that isis was tweeting celebratory tweets. >> at one point they said they were isis, at another point they said they were al qaeda. isis is al qaeda, it is the same thing. we have to keep that in mind, citizens are soft targets.
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people that bristled at the idea 69 you will find a place almost everywhere around the world, except maybe some islands in the south paskscific. though i can imagine, if you're an editor or a journalist, you can say, look is my life really worth this cartoon, the documentary, this youtube video. is it worth my life to risk that? i would hope that there's enough people that would say absolutely, we're going to continue to exercise our right to free speech because the right of each individual to have liberty, it's actually not given to you by your government, it is given to you by god and that's for everybody. that's what life is about, to have freedom is to have free speech is a very important part of that. >> people in france, it's kind of an open border policy, they
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have a lot, there are 5 million muslims in france, by far the largest in any -- >> what's the percentage of the population. >> 8% are muslim. >> this is the price in some way you pay for having an unrestricted immigration policy. they were put on notice that they had to allow these people in. they came in in droves. now you've got second and third generations of living in france. but what amazes me even more is has anybody heard one imom even one head of state? >> there was imom. -- >> not that one, but there was another one as well. k.g., so is they were warned, they had police presence there. they had a cop inside the border as well. these guys were clearly outgunning the cops. >> the problem when you have police officers in france that aren't even carrying weapons
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first of all to begin with. they ride up on their bikes, and then drive away, because they see there's shots being fired is an ongoing terrorist attack. so that's a problem right there. but when you look at it. this is a problem with an overall philosophy and foreign policy and appeasement and apology. and instead of fighting back against these individuals and making specific aims towards eliminating terror. you have people saying, no, no, let's not offend anybody. this is an act of terror that we condemn in the strongest possible terms. >> just 30 minutes ago, you called it a terrible act of violence as you just mentioned there. now you call it terror.
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what changed? >> it's still something we're looking into, i know that the french president has called this an act of terror. it does seem to be this is exactly what this is. >> president obama said we stand with the french comment. >> i want to express my deepest sich thinks to the people of paris, the people of france -- >> for us to see the kind of cowley people attacks that took 4r5is today, that re-enforces once again why it's so important for us to stand in solidarity with them, just as they stand in solidarity to us. >> they sought out the cartoonist and then yelled the profit has been avenged, why is it so hard for the obama administration to say it? >> they don't have the stomach
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for it. they have been unbelievably consistent in that regard, and you have seen it applied here in terror teks in the united states. workplace violence, it's unbelievable. i don't understand why they can't call it what it is. that's the first step in addressing it islam? a religion of peace, you've got call out these jihadists and these fundingmentalists. >> secretary of state kerry actually mentioned the imam who put a kabosh on the terror attacks, yet, they will not link it to islam, they'll mention an imam, but will not link the terrorist attacks. 6. >> i think there's something about president obama who was raised with muslims. i don't know when he stands up and starts to rattle the chains
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and think lit change anything. >>. >> i don't see by using the words automatically going to do something about this. >> i think the larger issue is look, you can't say the president isn't -- doesn't find this repulsive and disgusting. it's an act of terror. when that is married to another piece that says, but you still really shouldn't make fun of what he's saying is you shouldn't upset them. how is that any different from saying kimberly when you go out at night, you shouldn't be wearing revealing clothes, but that is an argument that would get you fired when it comes to rhetoric and idealogy that's okay. you really shouldn't upset them. >> couldn't he point his finger at radical islam and that's the
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target and we all, not just americans should unite against them and put a face to the enemy? >> we don't have the kinds of responsibilities or the intel that he has. and i'm going to defend josh ernest, so he was already booked to be on television at 7:30 this morning when this story breaks. he's not in a position as he's sitting in there on live television. because there might be information we have at the white house that he doesn't know yet. in between 7:30 and 9:30. when it comes to the president, i'm not talking about president obama, just last week at the u.n. security council. he voted for a resolutiona would have in many people's eyes empoweredal hamas. this is an organization that prohibits free speech and it harasses foreign journalists, and in his mind at a 70% approval rating they're trying to deal with the problem in france, where they have a huge
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muslim population. if he thought they were going to apiece french muslims by voting for these u.n. security council resolution. that is not going to help. i do think that however president obama leaders around the world, even muslim leaders they have to deal with the fact, that there is a growing anti-muslim sentiment in europe. it is dangerous, and it is something that we don't have responsibility to deal with but they do. so i think that in some ways when they pick their words kind of carefully, they have a longer view. i don't think it will necessarily match up with my longer view. i also don't have the kind of responsibility that they do. >> there's going to be a breakout of violence here, there's no question in my mind, in london and paris between -- go ahead. >> but before that, we saw polling in france that was
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proisis. >> right. >> i mean when we -- we're jumping ahead to the backlash, without observing the front lash, which is the fact that there is a population when you poll, might actually enjoy this and that's what worries me. the next poll, how are they going to feel about this attack on these editors if they find it's situation appealing. what might they think of this, that that is deserved. we're asking for it. >> and you have the prime minister of turkey who actually suggested, blame the victim, that the newspaper was stupid for having run it in the first place. >> financial times have blamed them. >> jay carney in 2012 also make a reference that maybe we shouldn't be using provocative picture pictures? >> this has been long coming, this has been a problem that we have seen in europe, in england in france and they have had challenging issues with communities and religions that
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are very distinct and desperate. that's the whole idea of this multiculturalism being tipped around it look at what they have now in europe. they have really an untenable problem. >> >> bob doesn't that breed more of this? is somebody going to finally reef the conclusion that muslims generally don't like the west. they're not going to assimilate, they tried everything they could to try to bring them together. they don't want to be in their neighborhoods. in this country, in detroit, muslims gather in large numbers around the u.s. that's okay irish gather, same place, puerto ricans generally gather in the same place.
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>> one thing is we haven't talked about the medium that is fueling this, and that is we're dealing with a situation, an insurgency that is now worldwide because they can communicate by social media. they narrow it down so much that you're assimilating, actually only with people that agree with you or fuel your instincts on social media. and then we have a worldwide movement to try to curtail what governments can do to try to the find them. and so there's things like the counter extremism project, that try to help governments to try to pin point them, but at this point, we are dealing with -- it might be ever thus. >> nice. >> and it's also when you look at the ap winning the pulitzer
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for exposing the police who were investigating mosques or watching mosques. now that is considered wrong to be able to find valuable intel on things that will happen the same ap that will like sensor these car too oftens. weird. >> going to leave it right there, we have got a lot more to cover on the terror attacks in paris from today, stay tuned. ubzs s
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. the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam. president obama said that two years ago at the u.n., and what a prophet he was. 12 futures no longer belong. of course we condemn such barbarism, condemnation after the fact is what the timid always do. who are we to champion our free expression in shame to our tolerance. which raises the contradiction, today bigotry in the united states is totally rejected. but if intolerance is international, but it's culturally off limits.
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it's a diversion fabric. instead of blaming intolerance, we blame ourselves. we are a neigh who's leaders are quick to condemn islamophobia, but if reaction to evil is a phobia, then only the same would be phonebic. remember on -- >> you're saying islamo phobia is not a real then? >> we have to -- >> it's gross, it's racist. >> we have to be able to criticize bad ideas. >> but why -- is the mother lode of bad ideas. >> jesus. that's just a fact.
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it's the only religion that acts like the mafia that will kill you if you say the wrong thing, draw the wrong picture or write the wrong book. >> it's affleck's mentally, a moral blingdness. a expect a dumb ass actor to present it, but not a president. >> i know dana that ben affleck's response to what happened in france is saying it's awful, but worrying about the backlash, that all seems to be the kind of equation that -- islamo phobia is worst than islam islamoviolence. >> i can understand that especially if you are in government. we were actually on air when there were all the riots in france, night after might.
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and that was fueled by angry mud limb -- that didn't have economic opportunity. their schools are not good enough. it's actually what they seem to be looking for, and those riots was better economic mobility. the terrorists today we're looking for was revenge and i think that those two things can be separated out. and i don't know how a government is actually going to thread that needle. to use one of your banned phrases. >> eric, we were always told for i don't know how many years that it was things like gitmo, and what was going on in comitgitmo, torture, waterboarding that leads to this kind of violent display. it's cartoons that got them killed. it's not all the things that the hanging of saddam hussein was going to be a backlash. >> hey is that cartoon offends
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our religion. the reality is jesus moses, mohammad and ---muslims believe mohammad wasn't to be idolized by picturing him, by drawing a picture of him. it would create more of a god atmosphere around him they thought that was bad. was that enough to kill people? obviously not. they still don't believe if jesus is pictured or mowsses is pictured. why wouldn't muslims now say that was then, it's part of over history, look, we're 2015, we're globalized right now, we're around the globe. >> that would be nice -- >> it's never going to happen. >> there's a.
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>> i do not get it unless they're so frightened of these people. if you're a muslim leader around the world, you're watching your religion being ripped apart because of these fools. >> you helped crush them. >> to put money and weapons and intelligence committed to it. >> all i can say is they're scared of their cowards. >> they should be leading the charge. >> you think at the united nations, i know they got a lot on their 34r5e9.plates. their main agenda item is global terrorism. but nato is an entity that could help share intelligence about these types of attacks, hopefully to prevent them from occurring. >> kimberly i want to just play this, jay johnson talking about the idea of lone wolves and i
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want to ask you if that still applies. >> there's more adherence to core terror organizations and loan wolf actors, actors that may lurk within our society, that could strike with little notice commit an act of violence because they have been inspired by things they see on the internet, social media. >> is the term lone wolf essentially irrelevant now that everyone's connected? >> it's like my 1969 encyclopedia britains canca. they're not going to sit there with a calling card, hi, i've been radicalized. they're acting on their beliefs and religious beliefs in carrying out these attacks. it really shows that they don't
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have an understanding of this problem by saying lone wolf. any of these acts since 9/11, in canada, in the united states whatever we have seen recently and now this here in paris, same thing. >> it always seems like the people are ahead of the government in identifying threats. >> that sounds comforts. >> the country's biggest problem, revealed by dana parino, it's me. next. >>hump day! hummmp daaay! it's hump day! >>yeah! >>hey mike! mike mike mike mike mike! >>mike mike mike mike mike. hey! he knows! hey! guess what day it is! hey! camel! guess what day it is! >>it's not even wednesday. let it go, phil. if you're a camel, you put up with this all the time. it's what you do. (sigh) if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ok... hello... i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it.
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so this country's faced a lot of problems in the last year. what was the most important one to americans. well, for the first time in gallup's polling history, they named the government as the top one, including, the president and congress. the economy dropped down to number two in 2014 after seven years after americans top kern s
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concerns. greg do you think this is a good development? >> basically you're saying government is number one, number two, number three, number four. overregulation, and the overtaxization and the intrusiveness in all areas of your life. in a sense, this poll says is pleading with the government to get behind us not to get in front of us. not to block our path, but to push us forward. >> are you surprised at all, eric, that the messaging that i don't think -- if you just 4ru6r7 the economy and the jobs here you're up to 32%. the interesting part of the
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survey, something we talk a lot about, race is only 3%. it's near the bottom. terrorism is only 2%. yet we talk a lot about those too. health care came in fourth or so, this year or the employer mandate kicks in by the end of this year, that's going to have an affect on jobs and the economy. >> bob if you are planning a presidential campaign for a democrat, and you look at this type of a poll and you're thinking of longer terms with a bigger picture, i think this is a seminole point of 2015. who's going to run a campaign that says i think the government should do less? >> if i could indulge you all and just have 30 seconds without having to argue -- >> you're on the clock. >> if there is one thing, -- since ronald reagan said the problem is government has made the anti-government theme their theme. i grant you the government's too big, it's too overrated, but the government is absolutely
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essential. and the idea to make your political party built around a message, that's destructive to this country when you look all around, everybody benefits, a lot of people don't benefit. >> that's your 30 seconds is complete. >> please know that the government can work better. the government is a problem. no? it was 30 seconds kimberly you take your 30 seconds. >> i think the candidate in 2016, regardless of whether it's a ben or a democrat has to get back on top and say america is great. believe in american exceptional i. however let's try to do it better let's do it smarter, let's not burden businesses middle class, people are trying to get ahead. why would we try to put hand can cuffs on them by overregulating overtaxing, there is a strong art to be made a sensible
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argument to be made for smaller for efficient government. why would that be a bad thing to say? we know the government helps people. but it has to get back on track to help people with the -- you know, a helping hand versus just a hand out. that's what we need to get back to. >> i'm sorry, go ahead. >> no, go ahead. >> i think that actually is really at the heart of this. anxiety is about america's standing in the world, what do you think? >> i was going to cede my many things to bob. liberals like bob, believe that most answers can come from the
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government, therefore the government should be -- and the government is there when you really, really need it so therefore the government must be smaller. this argument will never go away, the public will address the government, as well as they will the government. when the government's bad, it's bad, they're always going to want to have a government, the same way they're always going to wanting to have weather. >> no one's saying we don't have government, come on, there's a certain role and a function. but it has to be checks and balances on it. otherwise it's going to continue to grow. ronald reagan's infamous, the problem is government. >> that's about the best -- you're a regular rich little, bob. >> it's not all about the
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government's too big, and too bad. >> let's think of what government's supposed to be. you were a farmer. you were a lawyer. >> >> >> is government out of control? is it run away government. >> absolutely yes. >> we promise to let you know, with bob rocking back in his chair as irresponsible as that is going to cause an accident during the break. coming up more on the terror attack. dole. stay tuned. we come by almost every day to deliver your mail so if you have any packages you want to return you should just give them to us i mean, we're going to be there anyway
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first fairy tales and now fun. yesterday we told you about our concerns about letting kids watch movies like the lion king. now there's a push to stop them from doing things too dparns. and also jumping on tamprampolines after the american academy of pediatrics -- we have become a nation of safety no dodgeball, no trampolines, no scary movies, no good? >> if -- by age 15 you don't have a scar somewhere, you're not truly a human being. it's true. and by the way trampolines, you probably know this, were designed to thin the herd it was part of a 1940s experiment. they were delivered to homes across the united states. and trying to get the stupid
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kids to get on there and jump and fall and that would kind of create a more -- it's easy to make judgment calls on that stuff, so you're shifting away from the real problems that you're seeing in our culture. you can no longer condemn the abandoned family unit because that is politically correct. therefore you can go after the intact family for spanking, for diet, and those things. those are simple. you can get self righteous over that, but you can't go after a man who leaves his wife and leaves the kids. you can't do that. the single mother is a hero. >> i did all those things except for the snap bracelets that's one of the things in here, snap bracelets i didn't have. one of the things that it suggests kids can't do anymore is keep score.
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>> i can jump on a trampoline, very, very well. >> some liberals are refusing to tie the terror to islam, but bob's going to set them straight next. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees from the bank where no branches equals great rates. patented sonic technology with up to 27% more brush movements.
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three islamic terrorists killed 12 people in%. during their escape, the jihadists were caught on tape. >> regrettably, there are some on my side of the aisle who seem to be afraid to talk about what these people are about. s are on the right this attack is clearly the act of muslim terrorists. and howard dean has got something he wants to say on this. >> they're as muslim as i am they have no respect for anybody else's life, that's not what the koran says. and europe has an enormous radical problem, i think isis is a cult, not an islamic cult. i do not think that we should
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accord them anymore religious respect. clearly it's a twisted cultish mind. >> wow. >> the idea that suggests this is a cult like a bob jones kind of cult, that somehow is peripheral to the absolutely ridiculous. if we haven't learned yet, the people being quiet are muslims, who are afraid to start to speak out. the government heads who are muslim, are afraid to speak out. and care, that great o in the united states -- >> okay, bob, what about ft. hood and al asam. was that a muslim and was that a terrorist eattack by extremists? >> i can't get into their minds. i can't say? >> apparently, it's the left mentality. >> i don't think that -- i know a lot of people on the left who have the same feeling about that. >> i know a whole lot on the
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left that have the exact same feeling i did. >> the guy who is almost surprising, you have a grooish who was the attorney general, who have a fear of calling -- >> can you name some of your boys from kentucky said about it? >> dana win of the keys to distinguishing inging between isis and a cult, which you mentioned the bob jones cult is financing. and we know from intelligence services, that a lot of the financing for al qaeda which is isis comes from very wealthy muslim people. that's one of the keys. and so i think that being honest about that is important. >> yes, that's the problem. >> jim jones, not bob jones.
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>> well, we're focusing on a word cult when you're talking about jim jones, it was 900 people i believe he killed. >> bob jones is a sausage. >> it's also a university. the point is. >> jimmy dean is a sausage. >> howard dean is right. howard dean is right, it is a cult and we have to admit that trgs a cult. it is a death cult. also he came out in a weird way howard dean said this as well. france as powerful gun control laws. >> he just came out against gun control. >> that was cloor. >> he said gun control didn't stop them from getting -- that's quite a statement.
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so you remember this, chris christie hugging out out with -- this is the type of owner i'll be looking to hug after the packers on sunday. good tweet governor walker. and then chris christie, delivered this self dep indicating treat. >> okay so, we had something exciting happen on new year's eve but i couldn't tell you because he was on his honeymoon. jack wright our audio technician here on the five was married to his new wife on new year's eve. we want to wish them many years of marital bliss. >> we love jook. >> very good all right craig you're up. >> jack has seen a lot of stuff
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here. >> he has. >> if he wants to write a book, he will make millions. >> all right, it's time for -- greg's sports corner. all right, one of my favorite sports is hedge hog tubing. it took off today, the international. let's take a look. this is spiky mcfurbag. aggressively mounting an attack that shocked the vice. everybody there was overwhelmed at how we took this. he was able to get his 20 ounce body inside that tube. he didn't quite make it there. u you get the picture. if you're ever interested in hedge hog tubing come by my house, i have a whole setup in my basement nothing but hedges hogs and toilet paper tubes. >> that's paper towel. >> you're up. >> i have a lot of paper towels. >> okay five some great news that we want to celebrate here in new york city about people coming together because the steven siler tunnel two towers
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foundation, they have reached their goals, suprassed it in fact. so that's taken care of. $800,000. taken care of so the widows and they were on hand today to present it. won't have to worry about that which is really incredible just in two weeks time to be able to do that. so god bless them for that. >> all right bob you're up up. >> first of all, i want to thank that most of you have known that i have some back problems. many of you sent in some remedies, some of which worked some of which i'm still recovering from. the number of contacts actually wishes i didn't have a back operation. he's the good news i found out yesterday because of a team of very good doctors who finally agree that i do not have to have back surgery and the number of people in the country who get back surgery who don't need it, i'm learning more and more about it, so i'm going to share it with you. >> does that mean you don't need
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your percocet? >> what did they say about the tramp lean? >> the trampoline caused the back pain. >> terror in paris. masked gunmen attack a french newspaper, massacring a dozen people and sending warning shots across the globe. this is special report. >> the city is light is seeing dparkness tonight not seen since world war ii. paris is on high alert follow an stault on a satirical newspaper. we have fox team coverage tonight. we
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