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boumediene. >> french national police warning more terror attacks could come in fact they are likely. thanks for watching. keep it here. well the hunt is on over there. the u.s. puts everyone on alert here. good morning. a travel warning urging americans to be on high alert. possible terror attacks and could be adding a big attack on travel. as the hunt goes on for the wife of a terrorist attacker whether she's in paris or france for that matter at all. the weird market response to all of it. the traders are scared. they have a funny way of showing it this week. first, to paris and rick. authorities scrambling to find
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this woman. neil, her name is hayat boumediene. she is the common law wife of one of the people. authorities broke in and killed her husband. she has algerian decent. she was radicalized by her husband coulibaly. in 2010 her husband inspired her to read books on religion and she was angered by killing of innocents or anyone americans sent bombers suggesting that the u.s. was the terror network. french police were hunting for the couple in connection of the murder of french policewoman. they took control of the grocery in east paris with the goal of killing jews and helping the
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kouachi brothers escape. they carried out the massacre. coulibaly said he would kill hostages unless they let the brothers go. now, there's still no sign of the 26-year-old boumediene who is unofficially france's most wanted woman. she is to be considered dangerous and armed. the terrorists have stopped and the bloodshed is over for now. there's a wide belief that the worst may be yet to come and there could be more attacks ahead. >> rim thank you. rick is in paris. al qaeda in yemen we are going to get to paris in 2000. with the deadly attack on "uss cole." what needs to be done to take these guys down? they are not, you know, shying
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away from responsibility. the commander said blessed be the raid in paris, the fill think french learned that infidelity results in an unsult from the profits. he praised boumediene and says it taught paris a lesson on the limit of speech. what do you think of that? >> most western nations, that the attacks are starting to come home and no longer fighting the war forward and we have to look at ways to get into the organizations and be able to penetrate them. when you look at what aqap on the arabian peninsula is doing in setting up the attacks we don't know what we don't know. there's a scramble to find out who they talked to. a french terrorist. what americans has he gotten in touch with? we are foregoing it because we have a drone program while
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effective is killing terrorist that is could be intelligence assets. >> the yemeni connection shouldn't surprise me, but it's a consistent footnote despite the air strikes and trying to get on top of it. what are we missing and doing wrong? >> you have a weak central government in yemen. they do not exercise the control they would like to have. consequently, the terrorists run free reign there. there's a lot of sympathy in the nation for the terrorists. sympathetic people in aiden when "uss cole" was attacked. we saw that that evening from watching them offshore. they have sympathy today. the government has proven time and again they are neither a trustworthy or reliable on the war on terror. that's why we continue to do drone strikes. we target the individuals
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again, every high level terrorist you kill is an intelligence asset we are choosing to forego. >> the progress made in yemen. it rings hollow now. >> it does ring hollow, neil. that's a great point. the president is talking to a political audience. when you talk to the folks in national security i have been in talks with folks at the pentagon and other branches of government, they are becoming more and more concerned. we no longer have a facility where we can bring people, interrogate them to get into the networks and learn how to penetrate them and how they are organizing the raids. where are we going to be able to head off the next one? they are all gone because we don't have the capability now. the investment in human intelligence is critical. i learned the hard way. we didn't have assets in aiden when al qaeda attacked "uss
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cole." here we are a decade later and haven't made the investment to put the assets in place to keep the nation safe. >> how do you reason? addressing the french they issued a tweet warning saying it is better to stop striking muslims so you can live in peace. if you only wish for war, rejoice. you will wage war on god and profits and fight muslims. whether you are fighting muslims or not they are on the attack. it's like he's lying to himself. >> well, when you have a religion that has been rye jacked for hate sake, it's not going to matter what you do or don't do. closing gitmo won't make a difference. stopping ties with israel won't make a difference. they are going to continue to target western christian and jewish interest throughout the world because they see them as
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infe dells and want to destroy them. we need to call it radical islam. it's been hijacked by them and twisted in a manner that justified the ability to kill. call it for what it is and start targeting them going after them capturing the high level people and lower the boom and kill the rest of them. they need to be taught there's a price to be paid if you want to come after our nation and our people and kill and hurt them. >> commander, thank you very, very much. >> thank you, neil. new worries, the terror cells are morphing. we find it more worrying. when they say morphing, what does that mean? >> the problem neil, is we in the west are very prone to putting all these goods into neat circles where they don't overlap and we can put them into one group, aqap isis or
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hezbollah, whatever. the problem is you can be in one group one morning and the other the same afternoon. these groups morph meaning they co-mingle, they exchange weapons, ideas, personnel. they morph into new groups within weeks. that basically, totally confuses western intelligence. we are not up to the notion of how these groups basically transition into new organizations within weeks. that's why we lose track of them. that's why they go off the grid, then we say why did we not track them? why didn't we infiltrate them? that's what happened to the kouachi brothers. they went off the grid morphed. why didn't the french do surveillance on them 24 hours a day? >> it takes time. they argued they don't have the resources to follow them. even when we sent warnings that two of them had been following
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them. we gave them that information. we told the french of the yemeni connection. one going to yemen, the other planning a trip to syria. just on the no-fly list alone, there are 1,000 in question in france alone. we can't keep track of them. what do you make of that? >> you are right. you know how many agents it takes to do 24 hour a day surveillance? 20 to 40 agents 24 hours a day. you know, if you multiply it by 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 suspected terrorists you come up with intelligence agents that don't exist. then you have to make priorities. the priorities that have been made are who are likely to carry out attacks in the most intimate timetable as possible. they went off the grid. they went on the u.s. watch list but that watch list
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comprises hundreds of thousands of people. it does not mean everybody on that list is a suspected terrorist who is going to carry out an attack. they have the potential. being on the watch list only means they can't fly into the u.s. in the end we have to realize that there's a much larger umbrella here and these groups can flow from one group to another group. so when we sort of pigeon hole them we have to be careful we don't constantly keep them in those circles of groups and realize they can form their own organization. as this group basically did. this was a cell within france that was basically alluded french intelligence for several years while they plotted these attacks. >> this woman is -- before we go where do you think she is?
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where do you think she is? is she a danger? >> well, i don't know if she's a danger. i mean, you know, just you know it's my own personal opinion. she's probably not a danger but a repository of an incredible amount of intelligence. it's important to capture her. the bottom line is, these guys, their tinicles go to britain. we are going to be bracing for a series of attacks that are certainly going to happen here in britain and the united states. that was an unprecedented statement for mi-5 and something we need to take more serious in the u.s. >> thank you very very much steve. what's scary are terrorists.
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the weirdest thing of the week terror fear is up stocks are not. the reason may not be a good one. gary b., there's either a disconnect here or the markets aren't focused on this. what do you think? >> i think there's two reasons, neil. one, nimby, not many my backyard. we say if it happened over there, it's not our problem. number two is the fed. from 2009 until now, the fed has not been on the brakes at all, it's been the opposite. put the scenario around. we have a terrorist attack in
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october at a world series game and the fed is starting tightening. you are not going to see the dow 18,000, you are going to see dow 8,000. >> they have indicated -- >> i think absolutely because it has a chilling effect on economies around the world. for now, it looks relatively isolated. the market is so fix sated on the fed. what we saw friday is reaction to the jobs reports. the surface looked good but wages fell. hourly wages fell. that's incredible. we are seeing more and more bad part time jobs and people aren't making money. it's not keeping up with inflation. that was the story friday. >> i'm going to disagree with melissa on this. i don't think they ignored this. the market was down 170 points. it was initially down 200, came back and then fell off the
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cliff. one interesting thing, i believe, is when you have bad news economic news like wages not growing. the fed is unlikely to raise interest rates. the market should have took that bit of news and interpreted it as a positive. i don't think it did because of what happened in paris. this sell off was terrorism related to a certain extent. >> everyone worries about it. it could be terror or things that come out of nowhere. if this were to spread and this looks like it's not just paris and other western civilizations, western capital, then what? >> well then if it spreads, i tell you what, we are in big trouble. we panicked when we thought we were going to have some ebola threat. that turned out not killing a lot of people. now terrorists are killing lot of people. the problem is, we don't have an
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effect i have quote unquote cdc that could contain it. it could pop up anytime. the holland tunnel goes dark. the dow is down. at a super bowl or world series -- >> i reduce it to the market. it's a tragedy. ty play in the market. i think that this is the excuse. if it spreads, the fed will not raise rates it may do qe 4 or 5. >> if it spreads -- >> i don't think so. >> they may be considering it. >> investors who this was noise out there for them but among the other noise, it was just noise. >> a lot of people are talking about oil. that's something i covered for a very long time. if you look at the collapse we have seen in oil, it is about
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more than supply. it is dwindling demand elsewhere around the world. we have bigger economic problems than we know. we are not feeling it in the u.s. a company like caterpillar that sells 70% of product overseas, we are going feel it. the drop off in oil, that is the canary in the coal mine. more than we have seen in the ten year and the decline the oil is the thing that should have tipped us off to a slowdown. it's a problem. >> that is what's driving it. look at what alan greenspan did after 9/11. the market after getting crushed came back. the fed is so focused on certain things including terrorism they will infuse this market. like i said i hate to reduce it to a market play but it could be positive if there's more. >> we are not going to
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appreciate this for awhile. the french weren't going to stores or malls they stayed in their homes. that comes up in the economic numbers. that's a reminder, isolated events affect 20 people. >> absolutely. and we talk about if it spreads. it already has. you look at what happened in canada. look at australia. you know, it has spread. you look at the way it's catching on through social media to radicalize and inspire people to go out and commit the horrific acts. it could and will happen anyone. that's the lesson that is scary. >> this is bad for the economy. people don't go out and spend. that is what terrorism is about. gary knows this. the fed will help. >> fair enough. >> mitt romney said he is considering another run. how serious is he? you are about to hear from a guy
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the moment is now, you say -- >> neil i'm not running. >> at this point neil we have no plans. >> i'm not running, i'm not planning on running. >> they keep telling me mitt romney telling a big group of donors the answer may be yes. a huge fund-raiser last go round. did he say he'll consider it? >> it was supposed to be private and seconds later 50 journalists were calling. >> they knew about the meeting? >> probably. i think he is serious.
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if you look at the poll numbers, he has the highest name recognition justifiably. the issue is can he get the momentum back from governor bush who is moving quickly. >> the latest poll did not feature romney, this is one that showed jeb bush leading the field. now, i want you to look at the month before. with romney in the group, look at that. he leads. >> he's got the name recognition and leads in new hampshire. i think he's got the team in place. i think he could reorganize a team. what's at issue let's not overly split the party. my prediction is establishment guys are probably going to have money in both parts of the campaign if you will. >> if both were in the race? >> i don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with it. last time, we had so many
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characters in the race, it decimated romney coming out in the primaries. out of the primaries, he had no money, got labeled over the summer. i don't think the party wants that to happen. >> they are going to have a lot of people running, right? >> there's poll position. no pun intended. you have jeb. >> jeb is the mainstream. leader of the mainstream. romney i don't see governor christie in that pack. >> you don't? >> i don't. >> what do the other money guys say? >> some new york and new jersey guys are interested in governor christie, if he thinks about running. at the end of the day, jeb bush -- >> destroyed it for christie. >> i don't want to comment. that sweater got thrown out last week in my closet. >> he's going to the green bay game. >> and wearing that same
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sweater. the poll numbers -- >> you think romney will eventually run with jeb bush? >> i think he wants to. at issue is will he be able to galvanize the donor committee. >> in the room, was the sentiment go ahead? >> governor romney is an unbelievable guy. you know that. you know ann romney. you know governor romney. the question is he had two turns with it. are we going number three with him? he would say yes. ronald reagan never won the nomination. he lost in '68 and '72. >> nixon got it? >> governor romney, looking at the poll numbers i would be surprised if he doesn't run. look at the polls?
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do you want to be president? if you wanted to be president and you saw the poll numbers, what would you do? i think it will make a great campaign. i love jeb bush as well. for me i want to be there and help the republicans win. i'm a loyal republican. like i'm a loyal jeb fan and met fan and they never win. >> there are certain things about you. all right. in the meantime phil donahue isn't exactly saying the french journalists had it coming, but newspapers should think of what and how they are criticizing. joe says it ain't so. that's next. >> by choosing the most pornographic obscene pictures of mohammad for the intent of insult insulting, you are going to get a response.
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>> when you depict him as victim of canal sex unless there is something wrong with you, that is pushing the envelope.
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