including an ma-82 rocket launcher and setting up boobytraps. we have the very latest from paris. >> reporter: neil, we are expecteding a huge march and ral toy show unity against extremism in the city center of paris tomorrow. we're told that 150,000 police and security personnel will secure the crowd expected to be at a million people or more and will also feature the leaders not just of france but also england, germany italy and spain. those leaders also expected to attend this rally here tomorrow in a city and country very much on edge. today key members of the french government held a two-hour meeting to discuss what measures might be take ton try and stop future attacks and three themes emerged. mobilization solidarity and vigilance. this nation remains on its highest state of alert with an ongorge intensive search by thousands of security forces for that woman believed to be an

accomplice. hayat boumediene. friends with the brother who slaughtered 12 people in that newspaper office wednesday. authorities say the couple was responsible for the murder of a french policewoman thursday while the brother was on the run and then friday when those brothers were surrounded in that printing plant near the airport. that's when boumediene's husband killed four people in that kosher grocery in east paris and took several others hostages. police think boumediene was in the kosher grocery with her hearse and think she may have escape pd in the confusion when they killed the man and freed the other hostages. the terrorist, by the way, also that they were influenced by al qaeda in yemen also known at al qaeda and the arabian peninsula. al qaeda and yemen threatened more attacks neil, against other western targets. so there is a very, very real sense of danger here in france and across the region but again the search continues for that woman. they are questioning the kouachi

brothers' wives because they've been in close contact with her in the part and hope perhaps they can help lead to her whereabouts. >> rick is there a fear she's already out of the country, though? >> well, certainly a possibility. i mean they're checking obviously every bus station every train station. she managed to vanish into the crowd somehow, even though it was surrounded by police office. there may be some sort of underground network that she can take advantage of to make her way out of the country. at this point, neil we simply don't know. >> rick, thank you very much. in a grocery store in paris, in an office cafe in paris. not long ago a marathon in boston. terrorists are targeting not so obvious what they call soft targets. and former secret service agent nypd detective saying we better take note of that now. what do you make of that? increasingly soft, not obvious targets?

>> well, neil you're seeing this evolution in terrorism from initially a forke is on hijacking, whether the akel ai aro, now sole proprietor terror model, where an isolated group of individuals with small arms can take over essentially an entire city. this is important. the coal mine was mumbai. i know as a secret service agent at the time, when i saw mumbai a small group of individuals with ak-47s and grenades take over an entire major global city, we knew terrorism was evolving. >> started in a hotel. >> that's right. that's right. that started in the hotel. absolutely right. >> so what do we have to do here? that would almost seem to include, well, almost everything here. >> well, neil we have to get out of this mind-set that security is solely the responsibility of the federal government. you know the federal government does a decent job at this, but these soft targets whether it

be your business and i don't mean to unnecessarily panic anyone. it's obvious the likelihood of being involved in a terrorist attack is small but the likelihood of getting hit by lightning is small too. you don't want out in a thunderstorm and invite it. people who own theaters and stadiums should be taking some responsibility for this. believe mere, you'll see more of this. no doubt about it. this kept me up at night in the secret service. >> when you hear that there's a reluctance to call it radical islam or whatever a reluctance even now in france to go into these so-called no-go zones, because you don't want to sygma tiz muslims or whatever the rationale was, are they just begging for more incidents? >> you know neil it's so beyond reason. you know everybody gets it that not all muslims are involved in this type of -- everybody understands that. the fact it needs to be said is silly. everybody gets it. the point is, when i was a federal investigators and a

police officer people leave bread crumbs. those bread crumbs eventually lead to whatever the motive may have been or to solve your crime. if one of the bread crumbs is a motivation for your act as some radical form of islam. to ignore it and take it out of the piece and say to the nypd as they did to pressure and say you can't go into our mosques, under surveillance if you think there's something going on. take that bread come away is national suicide. pure stupidity. >> i want to pick your brain on this girlfriend this hayat bowed boumediene. where do you think she is? >> they're very good at what they do. the first thing you want to choke out, egress routes. my guess they have a police

officer or some kind of a national law enforcement operator on just about every train, plane, boat, you name it. paddle boat out of town. every dock and looking for this woman who probably -- >> the argument was they thought all the hostage-takers including her were killed in this incident and so valuable time might have gone by when she had more than enough time to leave? >> well you know that is a good point, and you don't -- at this point, yeah, time is not your friend, as an agent, and if she escaped, then it doesn't do you any good to put a surveillance blanket on if they're already gone. time isn't your friend, you're right, and she maybe in the wind. i hope she's not. >> is she dangerous? >> oh, extremely dangerous, neil. you know the model for school shootings and terrorism change add decade ago where the idea was step back, set up a perimeter and negotiate with people like this. if god forbid she re-appeared. that model is over. the model now is unfortunately

you may have to accept some civilian casualties but you need to stop this person right away because their only interest neil, is death, carnage, destruction and immediate to get that image out there. they're not interested in negotiation and neither is she. >> dan, thank you. they do not know her whereabouts. keeping a close eye out. meanwhile, killing journalists for doing their job now. not only happened at a magazine it happened at "forbes" magazine. that's next. sheila! you see this ball control? you see this right? it's 80% confidence and 64% knee brace. that's more... shh... i know that's more than 100%. but that's what winners give. now bicycle kick your old 401(k) into an ira. i know, i know. listen, just get td ameritrade's rollover consultants on the horn. they'll guide you through the whole process. it's simple. even she could do it. whatever, janet. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this.

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you know, the satirical attack on charlie hebdo magazine, they if new firsthand the editor of "forbes," gunned down outside of moscow offices in 2004 reporting on alleged corrupt russian -- and steve forbes, how to keep journalists

safe. especially now. >> the fact of the matter, there are cases where you really can't. that attack on paul totally un unanticipated. he knew there were dangers, spoke russian fluently and knew the country well but decided the risk was worth taking and when he was murdered we had to make the decision do we continue with our partnership or shut the enterprise down because journalists are stale fair game in russia and none of the assassins are brought to justice. we made the decision along with the people on the ground to continue do it and you have to weigh these things carefully. keep in mind since the earl 1990s, when we began to keep statistics, the committee to protect journalists found around the world 1,100 journalists have been murdered in the line of duty. only about one-third, a little more a third in the war zone and others for politics and other reasons. this can be a dangerous distinction. >> and what your russian editor

went through and those at this magazine using satire cartoons -- >> let's face facts. these fanatics these murderous islamic fanatics will use any excuse. that was proximate cause a novel that got this novelist rushdie on death row for some time. they'll find any excuse. the fact of the matter, they want domination. if you're passive they see that as a sign they're winning. yes, step up surveillance here. starting to get a little laxed because something big hadn't happened in a while. overseas cutting out of northern nigeria as a base like the al qaeda used to have in afghanistan. same in syria and iraq with isis and so we've got to stop this semipassive approach and realizes we've got a war on our hands and fight the war. >> you talk about semipassive approach, does it allow people

journalists, of all types whether using satsatires, drawings editorial, investigative pieces like a decade ago to just subliminally pull their punches? >> you take care. you don't go blindly out any more than you go in a bad neighborhood. you take precautions and figure how do you get the story and create conditions where you can do it? and one of the things that the committee for protecting journalists and other doss is get the word out there. once you get publicity, once you shine the light on this thing, which these people have bloodily done in paris then countermeasures can be taken. the idea that there's nothing we can do is preposterous. surveillance works mehta data works. >> going in the neighborhood the so-called no-go zones? get the data? >> france will have to re-exam re-examine that. >> they're not yet. kind of reluctant, even now.

>> this is where we have to take the lead. we make a lot of rhetoric and don't really follow through on it, and then have been pulling back since that snowden incident in terms of pufting together sensible mehta data basis. >> you think we'll revis the stuff we were shying away from the nsa stuff and all that, we haven't found the balance yet? >> i think public opinion in this case is ahead of the political establishment, that we've got a thing on our hands. doesn't mean we're police state at all, but sensible. common sense things and realizing we have to take the war to these people. whatever you may think of george w. bush, he did recognize you don't wait for another attack and try to prevent it. yes, you try to prevent the attack, but you also go on offense. you go after their bases. you do more intelligence, as we started to do after 9/11. more cooperation among intelligence agencies. and so i think in the case of france, i think there you have a highly unpopular president. i think their public opinion is now ahead of the political establishment.

>> and quickly, your thoughts on the markets? they've been large ignoring paris. focusing on more things like the fed, earnings, employment report, soft wages, that sort of thing, but not this? >> because they don't see it yet at something that fundamentally threatens the security of the west, like obviously a world war would, but over time, yes, it will have an acidic affect because it affects economic activity. we saw that. >> a little too cocky? >> i think what they're anticipating is that we will respond properly. if we take another passive approach and say we must not offend these poor folks, yes it will over time -- it's going to hurt everything. it hurts civilization. you don't have a mark without civilization. >> well put. steve forbes. meantime mitt romney dropping a bomb on gop hopefuls in 2016. frank lutz says already very real palpable fallout. daughter: do you and mom still have money with that broker? dad: yeah, 20 something years now. thinking about what you want to do

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well, no quit in mitt. the former presidential candidate telling people he may run again. who he stoldtold is quite revealing. money guys, wasn't it? >> that's important. mitt romney raised more money

than any other republican dmnd history. in the conversations i've had over the past 12 hours they're basically split into thirds. one-third want to stay with him and hope he does run again. one-third want to choose and are already choosing towards choosing somebody else and the lead there is jeb bush with chris christie in second and a third trying to decide what they want to do. neil, they have to ask mitt romney three questions. number one what makes you think you'll win again when you lost in an electoral landslide. second, how will you do better this time, when you had a president with a disapproveal rating of had an economy that was shattered, and you had people who thought their future was going to be worth than the present. and number three what will you do that's different? will you defend your brilliant record as governor your strong

record in private equity? because mitt romney didn't do any of that. those three are legitimate questions. make no mistake, they still believe they used the most qualified candidate. one of the most qualified ever. but they're going to have to ask these questions. >> do you think he has, has the rearview mirror look? people saying he was right about vladimir putin, he was right about the health care law. they might treat him a little differently now? >> yes absolutely. i think he has the potential to be a strong candidate. but not until he answers those three questions. and the issue for republicans is that they do occasionally look backward. richard nixon failed to in 1960 but they nominated him in 1968. ronald reagan failed in '76 but he won the nomination in 1980. george w. bush lost in 1980 but came back in 1988. so the -- and mitt romney in

2008/2012. so the history is on mitt romney's side. but so is the frustration of many republicans who felt he should have run a better campaign and frankly he should have won that campaign. >> jeb bush is trying to make himself look better to probably that same group of folks. >> i'm told, some people are going to attend his events suddenly have backed away or they're attending but they're not going to make any commitments. that said, you now have three candidates fighting over literally, neil, hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign cash. and they're all going to the same place. they're going to greenwich, connecticut, westchester county new york, they're going to l.a., they're going to mike. >> bush, romney and i guess christie? >> and christie. and everybody else is in a different place. >> what about for the green

bay/dallas game? picked up tab himself? i don't know if he's going to do the hug thing again. does that hurt him? >> nobody carings. why shouldn't the governor enjoy a great football game? why shouldn't they enjoy america's past time? >> he's a new jersey governor and he's rooting for a dallas team. >> this is what i think is unique about chris christie. he'll say things you would normally thing are really tough to hear. but when you hear them, you actually say, you know what, he's right, if he's truthful, and dallas is his team he's not going to get hurt because he happens to like dallas. people will respect him for telling the truth. remember when hillary clinton -- >> philadelphia fan, that's a big market, southern jersey. doesn't he have a habit of just digging deeper ditches? >> he also has a habit of telling the truth. neil hillary clinton tried to pretend she was a fan of new york teams and nobody

believed it. it's just refreshing. this is different. i give him credit for this. he's willing to take the heat and just be who he is. >> but i think you're so smart, you're missing the obvious point that who he is looks like a goofl goofball. >> it looks like somebody who loves their football team. somebody who loves the game. and somebody who wants to -- >> -- dallas cowboys, with jerry jones, this is a man hug that scares me. >> neil, then maybe you need to do a couple more of those man hugs to make you feel more comfortable. i'll tell you what when i'm on set with you, which will probably happen next week you and i will do a man hug. it will make you feel at ease. >> there we go, i'll bring the sweater. thank you very very much. all right now, we're getting some new information on this terror suspect still on the run. a lot of folks say, well, she's not dangerous. i don't know about that.

all right, back to rick levinle that in paris on the search for this woman. rick. >> there are some conflicting reports now about the whereabouts of hayat bomeddiene, the 26-year-old believed to be involved with the terrorists that carried out the wham ofv wave of attacks across paris. there are now reports that bomeddiene may have fled to syria and may have been out of this country as early as january 2 which means she would not have been an accomplice to the fatal shooting of that french policewoman on thursday and would not have been on that grocery store on friday with her common law husband, as had been previously reported by authorities here who said they thought she might have escaped that attack on thatter erkosher deli on friday in the confusion when police rushed in and her

common law husband and freed the hostages. what we're now hearing from a french newspaper is that a woman with hayat bomeddiene's name left madrid on january 2nd and was at the syrian border on january 8th, which would mean that she might be in syria and may not be in france after all. again, this is a report by a french newspaper. we don't have this confirmed from french authorities who are still, as far as we know are involved in a massive search for this woman who they consider a terrorist involved certainly with the terrorists who carried out this series of attacks across the country. we learned a bit more about bomeddiene. that she met her common law husband back in 2009, had a religious ceremony marrying him, in july of that year. wasn't recognized by the french because it wasn't a civil ceremony. she comes from an algerian background and a large family of seven. her mother died early in 1984. raised mostly by her father after that.

at some point after she met the man police believe responsible for that kosher attack amedy coulibaly, shortly after she met him, she was radicalized and adopted whatever religious beliefs he had and followed him in this series of attacks. but again neil hearing she may not have been on location here in france here in paris, when those a tacks took place, so police are trying to check those out. >> amazing rick levinthal, thank you. 1 million strong leaders of all the european nations expected to be there, we're told for the first time since the death of princess diana back in 1987. more fox now. the hunt is on in france. a massive search is under way for the most wanted woman in the nation. the common law wife of one of the suspects behind a wave of

deadly attacks. she's considered armed and dangerous and possibly the key to unlocking a terrorist network. i'm doug mckelway in washington. >> and i'm uma pej rajumen pemmaraju. the fallout now felt across the globe, with alert levels raised in many countries and with the u.s. at this hour issuing a global travel