dumpsters and couches. police made a handful of arrests, no injuries reported. jenna: spilled out of bars, i wonder if alcohol had anything to do with that? jon: might have been. [laughter] jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> this is "outnumbered," i'm andrea tantaros and here with us, harris faulkner host of the independent on our sister network, fox business' kennedy also from fox business, elizabeth macdonald and today's *oneluckyguy from fox business as well, charles payne, and he's "outnumbered," although i'm thinking with three fbn people, harris you and i are outnumbered. [laughter] >> yeah exactly. but in a fantastic way. >> you know how we like to do, we like hostile takeovers. >> okay. >> but you get paid though. >> you're wearing a flower, and that to me, is not the symbol of hostility. >> and you're a pretty nice guy, charles, no one considers you to

be hostile. >> i am. thank you i'm excited to be here. >> we've got a lot going on. >> yes, we do. speaking of that, we are awaiting more possible fallout after the white house admits a higher profile official should have attended sunday's unity march in france. the daily press briefing underway right now. as we know now, secretary of state john kerry and victoria nuland will head to paris later in the week, but they were not there when more than 40 world leaders joined a reported one million people in the streets of paris on sunday the united states only sending its ambassador to france. a piece in politico reporting this quote: white house aides were so caught off guard by the march's massive size and attention that they hadn't even asked president obama if he wanted to go. it isn't clear who made that decision, but here's press secretary josh earnest yesterday. >> i'm not suggesting that anybody bears respondent of this outside the -- responsibility outside the white house. the white house has to make a decision about who's going to

represent the administration and the american people at a march like this, and that's where that decision lies, and the white house should have made a different decision. >> now when asked if the president made the decision earnest said no, but he still wouldn't name the person who did. i don't know charles maybe it rhymes with valerie jarrett? [laughter] it's just a guess. i but i heard a couple different excuses now so i'm a bit skeptical. first we heard that he was watching football, and they didn't know how big it was going to be and then it was a security issue, and now he wasn't invited? >> listen, this doesn't define the administration. i think it exemplifies the administration because we're talking about a president who's been aloof and indifferent for so long that i'm not surprised. it's crazy, it's nuts, but by the same token, it's not surprising. and, of course, president obama ultimately makes the decision. is that what the white house is? even within the white house the buck doesn't stop at his desk. i mean i could see, you know, there were other presidents who

said if something happens in butte, montana, i'll take responsibility. he's saying even within the white house there's a lot of barriers between my desk and the ultimate responsibility. it always lands on his desk and it's his fault. >> they say they didn't ask him. is he the gimp? do they keep him in a box somewhere? [laughter] it's awful. this is the most politically castrated president i think i've ever seen. because this is a person who's incapable, apparently, of accessing his own information or making his own decisions. and -- >> when you surround yourself with sick copants, that's what happens. >> listen, the rally started the day of the murders. >> right. >> there were rallies pouring in with people coming in to public squares the day of the murders, and i thought this second term was supposed to be the foreign policy and national security. i'm surprised nobody did march. >> i'm skeptical, harris, and as a journalist, doesn't it strike you a little bit odd that you're getting all these different excuses? the white house never seems to be able to stick with one. they keep switching the story. which one is it? >> you know, it's so funny what

kennedy is saying not just humorous, but it's ironic. because this is a president who claims to be hands-on, type a micromanager, he likes to know what's going on, and we know he likes to watch television right? because he says he gets some of what he knows from the news. not all of it would be print, i would assume. but with regard to this -- and i double checked this with our brain room -- it was being widely reported that this was going to happen on sunday as early as the afternoon hours of january 8th, last thursday. in fact, in our own newsroom here on fox news we were talking about what asset ts we had journalistically to put in place on saturday ahead of the march so that we would be prepared. amy kellogg greg talcott rick leventhal. we had our assets our journalist assets talked about far ahead of this. we're not running the country. [laughter] so, i mean, i find it hard to believe, a that they didn't get an inkling of this and if they

didn't ask the president, that shows a shortsighteddedness on the part of the people around him. president de gaulle came to this country when jfk was assassinated, so this is the type of high level decision okay? who made the decision to go to nelson mandela's funeral? i would assume it would be the president. >> this is our issue. this is free speech. >> right. >> this is freedom. and, you know, this is a war on terror that our country has declared, and you have two aspects of that story combined, you know, whichs has rattled france and western europe, our allies even more reason why the president or at least the vice president, at the very least, the vice president. >> yeah, but maybe he felt uncomfortable going because of what his press secretary at the time, jay carney, and what president obama said in front of the u.n. about free speech and charlie hebdo and slandering muhammad? i think it has to be one of three is, liz, it was either

intentional, a decision to not go by the white house, it has to be that he's so irrelevant that his staff doesn't even ask him or that they're just incompetent. at the white house and they're missing these really big things. although if that's it, though liz, they could have fixed it because they had holder in paris. somebody could have stopped and said, wait wait quick, send him over with the french officials that he was just meeting with. >> yeah, that's a good point. there's no response and there was no marching because -- >> liz, i have to cut in breaking news, we're going to break into this now. josh earnest is talking about this issue right now. let's watch. >> any additional information that we didn't already talk about yesterday. >> if i asked you was the paris embassy involved, were -- did you even, was it even brought up, the possibility of sending -- >> yeah. i'm just not going to get into all those discussions. okay, thank you. olivia? >> josh, has the president worked the close the detention facility in guantanamo bay, is the white house in a position to rule out the possibility that

40-50, just to put a number on it, hard core cases -- >> well, a missed opportunity there with the press corps right? he refused to answer the question, then how about a follow-up there rather than what's scripted on your pad? >> amen. [inaudible conversations] >> you know, the muslim world, they're not wilting flowers who will crumble under dialogue. it is better finish -- they're acting like it's so bad to march or show support even to have dialogue and that's somehow worse than drone strikes that indiscriminately kill muslims. so it would be better to have the dialogue and bring the issues out into the forefront why the islamic faith condones beheadings or the killing of children in peshawar or why the muslim faith says if you leave the muslim faith, you could be facing execution. have that dialogue instead of having aggressive action. there's no dialogue right now in washington, d.c. because they don't want to have the debate about it because they think the muslim world can't handle it.

>> which is a form of terrorism in its own right, it's intellectual terrorism. people are bullied to the point where they can't even address basic issues. >> real quickly josh earnest is there, and he was asked this question about what we were talking about, you know, the president, did he coordinate with the french embassy, who was he talking with, who was his group, his team talking with about potential travel for that march, did those conversations ever happen, and i said you missed an opportunity among the press corps to follow up. if somebody else in that room asks that question, and they very well could, we're watching it we're monoonmonitoring it. there are other journalists other than the person they just went to, so if it happens, we'll report it. >> probably no doubt, yeah. >> meanwhile, the satirical newspaper at the center of the attack is making a defiant return. charlie hebdo will feature the prophet muhammad on the cover of its issue the same sort of cartoon that appears to have prompted the deadly attack last

week. the prophet has a tear running down his cheek and is holding a sign reading "i am charlie," that's what that means in english. it's the viral message that's been all over everywhere as you know. written above him in french words, "all is forgiven." the paper plans to print at least a million copies, and of course today we learned they'll print up to three million if they need to. that is unprecedented. it typically prints about 60,000 copies. this, of course, is the first issue since last week's attack at the newspaper office. terroristses killed 12 people including 8 staff members. the four pictured here were the top cartoonists. one of egypt's top islamic leaders is warning charlie hebdo saying it's hatred. charles, your thoughts? >> you know what? i think it's a beautiful cover and i didn't know about the tower. i think it's very touching. they're more forgiving than i am, you know, and i think it speaks to probably people who

believe in free speech probably, you know, had great senses of humor, but also the things that bother -- because when you think of satire and great humor it always goes to what pains people in general. but it's a way of getting it out there. free speech and how to have discussions. and if you can't do it this way, then it's hard to have it any other way. i'm really happy i hope i can get myself one of those copies of the magazine, and i say keep going. i hope everyone keeps showing the pictures and stay defiant against all these threats. >> you know, liz i want to follow up on something you said you said this gives an opportunity for great discussion. there are media outlets who won't show that, and some of them have policies that say things like, you know, we've cited concerns about safety and staff members and the sensitivity about muslim audiences. i'm not going to all out all of the media outlets that have chosen not to show the picture but what are your thoughts? >> full disclosure, i worked at

"the wall street journal" when danny pearl was killed and also "forbes" magazine when paul clef any cover was assassinated in moscow. journalistic enterprises often protect their journalists. i say go for it. go full bore publish the cartoons, have the dialogue have the conversation because that is the way the peace. >> all right. well, as this story makes news, we'll come back to it, if necessary, this hour. for the first time since republicans took control of congress, they are sitting down with the president for a big meeting at the white house. this as the senate begins debate on a bill the president has already vowed to veto, the keystone pipeline. plus are women who speak up in the workplace seen as too aggressive? hmm, i guess those of us on the couch had best be silent. [laughter] on the outgoing pseudo. [laughter] the research on why women stay quiet at the office. stop saying you like that, charles. [laughter] >> right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web log on to foxnews.com/outnumbered, click on the "overtime" tab.

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." we have a big meeting going on right now at the white house.

president obama hosting congressional leaders in their first sit-down since republicans took control of congress in the midterms, and they arrived just about an hour ago, and one of the big issues on the table is the keystone pipeline. now, it cleared procedural hurdles in the senate last night. we had 11 democrats joining republicans and voting to begin debate on a bill which the president has already promised to veto. and that debate is expected to include a number of amendments from both sides to have aisle. now, here we got an amendment from bernie sanders andrea concern. [laughter] on climate change. and he's saying, essentially you know if you're going to deliver a vote, you've got to put where you stand on climate change. do you think that'll work? >> i don't. there's a number of democrats who are going to be in favor of this keystone pipeline bill. i believe that they need six. but president obama is part of that bernie sanders camp that makes everything about climate change, and that's what's stopping this whole process the environmentalists and fear of retaliation. they also dumped a lot of money

into those races -- >> right. >> -- this last election so president obama and the administration owes them despite the fact, liz, that his own epa said we can't see any environmental issues -- >> yeah, that's right. and to andrea's point the state department has gone back and forth on the climate change effects, even the state department. and the state department is already say ising you know what's even more environmentally friendly? it is the pipeline versus railroad. >> yeah. one or two more of those railroad crashes where they tip over and blow up and about 15 people die and they evacuate a whole town -- >> and smoke. >> yeah, yeah. these pipelines seem to be pretty steady. back to tom story who spent more money -- stier who spent more money in the midterms than anyone by far -- >> and made money off fossil fuel. >> well, the hypocrisy could be a whole special. [laughter] first of all bernie sanders you're a nut. get the hell out of here. are you kidding? you don't have to worry about my position. worry about the position of the american people, okay? why is gasoline right now so cheap?

why are people -- the only great news for almost every american in this country in the last six years has been gasoline going under $2 a gallon. why is that? the more than fracking miracle -- the american fracking miracle. keep it going keep it going. anyone denies that to the average american hates the poorest of the poor people. >> there's also that jobs issue, right, kennedy? i read the state department report. it's analytical malpractice. they don't give any analysis on how they arrive at just 35 jobs right? there's nothing in there. and by the way the other pipelines in the past have tossed off 13,000 jobs can -- >> unions are talking about maintenance, all that kind of thing. it's a job creator, and it -- >> i don't know why they'd be opposed to even one job being created. go ahead. >> that's what americans are more interested in, jobs, they love cheap gas and we've talked about the psychological impact of spending less to fill up your tank because even if it's $10 difference a week, that still means something every time you go to the pump, you know?

we may have too much oil. the fracking miracle may have flooded the market and it doesn't look -- >> that's a good point. >> -- the saudis are going to slow down but does that hurt the pipeline? >> that's a good point. >> it shouldn't. >> seeing the price go up but, harris, you know what really is missing in this debate i'm seeing is that look at all the solar energy subsidies from the u.s. government and the jobs collapse there right? >> yeah. >> there's no talk about how there was zero job creation, i would say when you do the math versus the job creation from the keystone pipeline. >> it is rather revisionist history. moving forward, i do think it's interesting what republicans are looking at now in the senate. because we saw senator hoeven of north dakota say yesterday that they feel like they have the votes to override any presidential veto. >> right. >> this is an opportunity for the president, though if they get those six democrats to vote, this is an opportunity -- >> before we wrap it up though -- >> -- bipartisan issue. >> we need the people watching to understand this is symbolic

of greater issues the ability to export crude oil, the ability to build factories that take natural gas turn it into liquid and sell it around the world. we're talking about trillions of dollars and economic freedom and security. >> and manufacturing jobs. >> absolutely. >> well, from the white house press secretary to the state department spokeswoman, the obama administration still will not refer to the attacks in paris as, quote islamic extreme itch. so why not -- extremism? so why not? we're going to discuss the possible reasons. and after the hacking of centcom's twitter and youtube account, one congressman is asking this: why is central command, why are they even on social media in the first place? >> that's a good question. >> we'll have more after the break. ♪topp ♪ h indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. fiber one streusel.

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." well, brand new video of the brothers responsible for the terrorist attacks in paris. in all, 17 people were killed over three day, yet the obama

administration still will not refer to the attacks in paris as islamic extremism. here's press secretary josh earnest yesterday. >> obviously, you know, the threat that we see from, you know violent extremism in which individuals invoke the name of islam, an otherwise peaceful religion, in, you know, as they carry out these attacks would certainly be, obviously a priority in the discussion. violent extremism is something we want to be focused on, and it's not just, it's not justice lammic violence -- islamic violent extremism. >> and the state department appears to be backing that up. listen to the deputy press secretary last night on "t the kelly file" why it's so hard to say those words. >> it's not hard to say but it's not the only kind of extremism we say. we're going to focus on all the different kinds of extremism with a heavy focus on people who do this in the name of islam, we

would say falsely, but there are other forms of extremism. >> but when asked to name those other forms of extremism, she was unable to do so. here's reaction from republican congressman adam kin singer of illinois. >> this is islamism islamic extremism that we are at war with. they've been at war with us for a long time. this is not declaring the whole religion of islamabad. >> okay. so in the a block, harris i asked it's got to be one of the is right? is it incompetence, intentional or they're so irrelevant they can't handle the problem? i think i've figured it out, it's intentional. >> she just told us it was. >> there's no way you can be that incompetent. >> she said we've chosen to look at this in the sense that it's all in one big basket, and they see different types. she just told -- they're not going to call it radical

islamists. they're not going to call them, you know, and i said to kennedy while she was talking what kind of extremism beside -- >> was she talking about base jumping? extreme sports? if you are going to say there are other forms of extremism that put our nation and the globe in peril, give us examples. what are they? i'd be very curious to know. the one unifying factor in all of these terror attacks seems to be whether it's lone wolves or well coordinated cells -- >> killing. >> it seems to be radical islam. >> but you know what she's thinking because we know what the department of homeland security did they pushed out memos saying everybody be on alert for right-wing extremism. that's what she was saying but she didn't say it. >> absurd. a pew poll found that the most muslim -- many people in muslim countries support stoning for adultery they support execution, death penalty if you leave the religion.

even saudi arabia supports beheadings for women for witchery and sourcely. that's still going on. we -- and sorcery. we heard more from fist lady laura bush than we do from this administration, and that is really telling. >> isn't it the pattern though charlie -- charles -- that's a cute nickname. >> yeah, you can call me that. >> i like charlie. isn't this a pattern by the administration? we've seen them speak up against "charlie hebdo", and when they talk about isis they refer to it as not really a problem, jv. this is their problem -- whether for your is, i would submit d, all of the above. and it's woeful and it's dangerous because it enables and emboldens. if you're sitting somewhere in this country and you don't see the administration saying what you're doing and what you believe in is evil wrong, must be crushed and destroyed, you actually feel emboldened. the things that president obama

and his crew don't like it's never about the individual. in other words, i don't kill you, the bullet in the gun killed you. i don't overeat, a fast food restaurant sold me too much food. >> yeah. >> but now the institution of a religion are it's not their fault, it's the individual. there's no cohesiveness with respect to how they break things down other than if we like something, then we'll protect it. if we don't like something -- >> i add one thing because i know you're going to talk about this later on the fox business network. the muslim mayor of the dutch city of rotterdam has said today, and i can't quote all of it -- although it was live on their tv -- he said those muslims who turn their back on freedom, quote pack your bags and [bleep] off. even within the muslim community, and this one particular mayor is calling them out, there needs to be this progression in the religion -- [inaudible conversations] >> you have to call this what it is before you can get there. >> right. >> and the administration by not separating radical islam from the rest of, you know moderate

peaceful, wonderful muslims does a great disservice to the religion. you have to have some sort of demarcation -- >> but we know they can target people when they want to. >> absolutely. >> they targeted hobby lobby -- >> absolutely. >> they can target and fight people if they want to. >> very good. the u.s. military central command is back up after its twitter and youtube accounts were hacked, replacing their profile images with images from the cyber caliphate. centcom maintains there was no operational impact to the agency but republican congressman duncan hunter of california is wondering why centcom is even on social media in the first place. here he is on last night's "on the record." >> the big question should be why does centcom have their own twitter and youtube pages? why aren't they out there fighting the the war and focusing on that and not the social editorializing that's your job frankly, not their

job? youtube and twitter though are the ones that had the servers, they had to be hacked for this to happen, not the u.s. military. >> all right. and centcom put out a statement saying we use social media platforms to provide information to various u.s. and international audiences. social media provides a unique method to communicate to people around the world -- [laughter] it also allows us to be responsive to comments and questions about centcom's activity thes -- >> tell them to get a box outside of their headquarters, you know a suggestion box. that's good enough for a u.s. intelligence agency. we don't need you being warm and fuzzy with the rest of the world, hey, how you like us? can you retweet this for me? >> we're on social media centcom's on snapchat. andrea, is this necessary? >> i don't think it is for them to have a twitter account but you didn't keep reading because it said "and selfies." [laughter] yeah. i think this is pretty embarrassing. >> oh, man. >> it really is embarrassing.

and it's on heels of another embarrassing misstep which was missing paris. >> yeah. >> and missing that march. it just -- i know these things are intentional when it comes to radical islam, however, this kind of thing just makes us -- >> i like, i would like a government job where you just sit and tweet all day and put stuff up on pinterest or instagram, that'd be a fun job. >> for centcom? does sexy stuff happen there? >> i don't know if you guys caught it last night but she had this tech expert ted kennedy -- >> any relation? >> david kennedy. >> and if your husband had married and taken your name -- anyway, let's move on. what he said was the terror groups are campaigning for people that have good expertise expertise -- big tarring itsgetstargets. you're going to see a lot of terrorist groups have more capabilities than you're seeing

today and it could be disastrous disastrous. we look at the sony situation and the hackers that the f.b.i. determined came from -- somehow dispatched by north korea. they hit sony but it's practice and everybody in the hate game is paying attention to see, can we get good at it too? >> the irony here is that the president was talking about cyber security and this hack occurred while -- and you know what the administration response is, we need to get companies to disclose to customers that they've been hacked within 30 days. what about the health exchanges getting hacked? are we going to get disclosures from the government within 30 day snz >> what about the government spying on its own citizens? are they going to give themeir drag nets are taking massive amounts of information? >> identity theft in the exchange. is that what you're saying? >> no. >> by the way, i thought about that when this thing happened. all of the resources that we use to spy on someone calling their grandmother from you know bismarck north dakota to

buffalo, new york and these guys are walking around there's a lot of people that come back from syria, iraq and other places and they're plotting. >> focus resources there. you're absolutely right. >> kennedy has said there's so much information being collected that how do you extrapolate what you need? >> you can't possibly. >> it's difficult. >> there's not a big enough budget in the world. >> don't waste it on stuff that's dumb. >> focus it. that's right. >> this was the country's response after the pair ace tack doubled down on surveillance. right? this is interesting. >> very good. battle over immigration is heating up on capitol hill. new republican controlled house is charging ahead to fight the president's executive action. the bill that could stop the president's plan and the fraternity at the center of a rolling stone article is now back on campus. they're back in action. what a police investigation found and did not find after fraternity members were accused of rape. and right after the show, you have to head to the web for

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>> you're watching "outnumbered" and we're glad you are. the university of virginia is reinstating the fraternity at the center of a disputed rolling stone article. they suspended after the magazine detailed a horrific gang rape at one of the parties and the school briefly suspend all fraternities. the fraternity's reinstatement comes after a police investigation failed to find any substantial evidence to confirm that rolling stone report about the gang rape. shortly after the november publication of that "the washington post" looked at it and found discrepancies in the article. friends of the accuser also came

forward to contest part of the woman's account. rolling stone has since apologized and commissioned an investigation into the report. they went to university students who haven't graduated actually with a degree yet journalism students to see if their news gathering skills are up to par. that's probably where you want to be vetted right? >> if you're a rolling stone that's a step up. man, these guys got a little bit of skin in the game. look at them. >> they want to get a degree. >> this is rolling stones jason blair, janet cook and steve en glass and there's other news happening. the original reporter she's rereporting the story. and she's trying to you know, fill in the credibility crack here with another possible story. this is like asking the pilot who just crashed a plane to go fly another 747. >> and, you know for her, she is putting a crashed one back together. but for her in particular she had come out with statements after all of this made headlines

saying, well i reached out to some of the stake holders in the story but their website wasn't up to date at the university so on and so forth so it's interesting. she's going to get back in the game, she's going to try to rewrite this. rolling stone, you're with mtv, okay kennedy? rolling stone had a reputation. >> thank you. >> what is it now? >> i think it's really damaged their brand and certainly this journalist and i'm surprised that their managing editor is allowing her to go back out. >> we don't know where she's going to put it but she's out there rereporting the story and one of the women at the college, the reporter called her a hookup queen. she said i'm not a hookup queen. you called me that in the story. what are you talking about? >> there are so many levels of irresponsibility here and i think it damages rolling stone and i worry about the university and all of the fraternities and sororities all suspended because of this story. >> ultimately there's a giant group of institutions and

individuals whose power is ir reflt by pushing the nar narrative. they're out to get you and you're a victim and they keep pushing and pushing and we see it all the time with other areas but -- >> you see it in the face and what's going on in administration and yeah, the victim narrative is poisoned. >> what about the boys in the fraternity? are they victims, too? their fraternity was reinstated but they haven't been tried. they haven't had their day. >> they were tried in the public. >> they were tried in the public opinion but what about their reputations? u.v.a. is a state school. i would imagine there's a lot of due process violations here. i think that they probably have a pretty good case that they can say to u.v.a., you need to tell us why you took our fraternity off campus and why you trashed our reputation. >> most of them just want this to go away. >> there's more too, with regard to the fraternity situation. now that it's been reinat a timed and all the fraternities are back online and operating,

there are new rules. i'm confused about the new rules if there's no evidence that anything actually happened. >> yeah. to your point to what andrea is saying instead of the fraternity saying we were slandered, our reputation was harmed, they now have new rules saying that they have to have contacts, any alleged assaulters who are creating trouble and they have to have security in the fraternity and people with keys to access to each room. >> i'm sure on the u.v.a. campus, the boys that have not been rectified or had their names cleared, they're probably pointed at on campus. this is a pretty big reputational management issue for them. >> their names were not in print but many of the attorneys have said surrounding the case that well there may have been enough information to try to figure out some of the guys. we'll move on. >> how easy is it to -- >> interesting.

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>> more "outnumbered" in a moment but first to jenna lee for the second hour of "raphappening now. >> we just watched a successful landing of a delta flight. it was unclear what was wrong with the plane but the crew reported a problem after a takeoff from l.a.x. and we'll get you the details as soon as we get them. also today the president meeting with republican and democratic congressional leaders at the white house. the president says he hopes the two sides can find common ground. so far there's fights underway over the keystone pipeline immigration and the financial overhaul and also stocks having

a better day today. dow up more than 130 points at this hour, oil prices continue to fall. we'll talk more about that and we're watching your money. that's all ahead on "happening now." >> i saw charles do this and you delivered that news. thank you so much. >> high powered women tend to small softer and less at meetings than their chief male counterparts do. one study cited shows, when male employees contribute ideas that brought in new revenue, they got significantly higher performance evaluations but female employees who spoke up with equally valuable ideas did not improve their manager's perception of their performance and the more that men spoke up the more helpful the managers believed them to be. when women spoke up more, there was no increase in their perceived helplessness. the whole piece started out as high profiled women. i get the idea is that no matter how high women rise in the

rankings of society and corporate america, they're still told to be quiet and shut up? do you think that's a message here, kennedy? >> i guess so charles. >> by the way -- >> actually, in the article -- >> great evaluation. there you go kid. >> what it talked about, and i so want to meet cheryl. i think she's fascinating, some stuff she writes about, particularly with the idea that's in the article with the fact that as women rose in the ranks, they learned that their silence had power because when they did speak up people listened so not only are we going sort of silenced along the way. when we do speak up at least we have some power. who can stay silent? i can't even do it now. >> is it just shut up? in other words you're going to be seen as annoying, problematic, no one is taking you seriously. isn't that more the gist of this? >> i think it's more that women fear they'll be laled the b word or be labelled a diva or something else so they try to

keep their thoughts in. i agree with harris, though. that was my tactic in my 20's. a lot of political campaigns were mostly men. i was the only woman at the table and i gained more credibility by watching the guys do what they wanted to do and then fall on their face. i would make my suggestion but then they would come around and i would offer my suggestion after theirs had failed or after i offered the first suggestion which we should have done. sometimes you do speak very loudly in your silence. however, most women who are truly successful are never afraid to open their mouth and i'm one of them but i don't do it all the time. when i do do it you know i mean it. >> the shrinking violet. >> i have nothing to say about this one. i'm kidding. it's really about what drives women. women are about consensus building. men are driven by fear and power. i talked to a guy that said we were always coming up to girls on the schoolright? we were always used to getting rejected when they were 10 11 12 years old.

women didn't have to put themselves out there to do things like that so women are not used to doing that. >> fear of rejection. >> just not used to behaving as boisterous growing up. >> men have to take risks from a revolutionary perspective. >> on wall street as a broker it felt like the women had a harder time because they weren't used to getting a lot of rejection. bob, i'm beating down on wall street. send me some money. >> that contradicts the argument of the feminist rights where women were always told no. i think that women, that's where cheryl saying these things i never bought it because someone like cheryl -- >> really? >> you can't have it both ways. >> beyonce, these are women who don't care if they're called bossy. if you're going to be a

successful, strong woman, they don't matter to you. >> be bossy and speak up, right? all right. >> you can't lead from the crowd, right? >> can being separated from your phone make you feel sick? there's new research that might surprise you on this one.

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♪ >> don't go! so glad you are back. ever misplaced your phone. i have. panic ensues and you get sweaty. you are not alone. people separated from their smart phones can suffer serious psychological affects. researchers can place their phones further away and when users were not able to answer the phone heart rate and blood pressure shot up and performance decreased. charles, you are a man with your mind on the money and your money is buried inside of your smart phone? >> that is truth to it. >> can you live without your phone?

>> how long? >> two days say a weekend? >> how many weekdays can i live without it? that would be tough. hours or minutes. i can go a weekend but once monday morning starts, i need. it >> i am feeling guilty. one of my girlfriends had a break down because she couldn't find her phone. and i owe her an apology. >> i didn't call her name. but she said you don't understand. her head started to it spin. >> did she not have a pass code on. it it was on silent. and you should leave it on vibrate. >> we have a stronger relationship with our phone than significant other. i think men froek out more than women. >> i think that women do. my wife is on the phone more than i am for fun pleasure

stuff. i am sitting next to her like what's up? >> and what do dudes have on their phone? >> before i learned how, nothing. and now you don't want to know. >> ken eddy you freaked out in the commercial break when you couldn't find your phone. and they are in other rooms. and electronic equipment. and that is great and fun. it is a live show. >> and leonardo dicaprio. and this is just a dichotemmy. and psychologist say we need to unplug. >> that is true. we are in information overload. how dow do both? >> i like to unplug when i choose. >> we'll be staying here for

outnumber over time. and we'll be here and we'll be back on tv at noon eastern. "happening now" starts right now. >> we begin with a fox news alert. a new arrest in the paris terrorist attacks but it doesn't come in france? >> authorities are searching for half dozen suspected terrorist. we are covering all of the news, "happening now". the terrorist attacks. sa yed kouachi and ala wacky teamed up. and hundreds of others trained there, to including some americans. oil prices nearing a six year low, easing the pain at the pump. how long will this