show. thanks to my panel and all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot. hope to see you right here next week. i'm arthel neville. time now for "sunday house call." >> joining us as always is dr. mark siegle, professor of medicine at nyu and also author of "unlocking the secret code of sickness and health." >> and dr. david, chairman and professor of urology and chief of row bobotics surgery. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> we start here because the so-called happiest place on earth, right now is not so happy. a measles outbreak that started last month at disneyland in california has morphed into the worst outbreak the state has

seen in 15 years. >> yeah. >> this is a huge deal. i'll start with you here. how does something like this happen? >> it starts off with someone, arthel, not having the measles and mumps vaccine, mmr vaccine, which gives you between 95% and 99% immunity. that's how good it is. and it's supposed to last for a lifetime. but someone goes to disneyland where people are totally crowded together, and they're not vaccinated, and they didn't know they had measles because it can incubate for one to two weeks. they don't know it, and they start spreading it to other people. now, i want to warn people out there that infants under the age of 1 are not vaccinated at all. because you can't give this live virus vaccine to someone till they're 1 year old. and you know something? that puts our most precious at risk. also, kids that go into school, get the second, the booster, right before they go to school. david brought up a good point. should people be allowed to go to school if they don't get the booster? you know what? maybe you're worried your child

is somehow going to have a side effect of the vaccine which has never been shown. there's been no association shown whatsoever between the mmr vaccine and autism. but let's say for religious reasons or some other reason you don't want to have it. you're putting all the other kids at school at risk. this is a public health hazard because measles is 90% contagious compared to the flu that we've been talking about, only 25%. so in other words, if eric has the flu, the chances of him spreading it to arthel is one in four. the chances of eric spreading measles to arthel would be 90%. >> i thought that measles was basically stamped out in our country. >> well, that's actually true. and that's part of the conversation we're having. for a decade nobody was talking about measles. and now last career and this year, the numbers are on the rise. >> do we know why? >> i think 90% of it is because of unvaccinated kids. that's the reason what's going on. some of it is because of the fear of perhaps it's connected to autism. and the science has not shown -- and again, the science has not

shown that getting the mmr vaccine can cause autism. i know jenny mccarthy disagrees with what i'm saying. she's been a big voice about what she saw with her kids. and then later on, this autism went away. i think the reason behind autism is probably something genetic. where it's genes or some external force that's causing this. it could be our diet. >> talk about chemicals. >> chemicals, but also, eric, we are also better in diagnosing autism now. we understand the disease maybe a little bit better. we still have a long way to go. but to scare people to say that this vaccine can cause autism, that's a mistake. and people want to know. the other thing is maybe through the borders, we have a lot of kids that are coming from other countries that are not vaccinated. and certainly from south america, there are a lot of kids coming. in europe, the number of vaccinations has gone down. >> the kids, when they come over the border, course, covered that story extensively. are they examined by the cdc? are the state health authorities

in texas and arizona? >> not to the extent that we will know all of their vaccination records. nobody goes through their whole vaccination. >> so do you think that's a public health problem? >> of course it is. >> essentially? >> absolutely and that's a huge concern. now, i'm not going to get into the politics of this from i ahealth standpoint when you have a lot of unvaccinated kids that are coming in, your child and my child and his child are in danger. so what they need to get, at the age of 12 months to 15 months, they get the first dose. the booster is two to four years right before kindergarten. side effects of this is fever and maybe rash. now, to recognize this, and mark will get into this, you will have the runny nose, cough. very much like flu symptoms four days after you have a very typical rash. telltale or this velvety rash. >> is it over your face? i had it and i'll never forget it. it's prickly and hurts. >> eric mentioned he had it. so once you have it, can you get it again? and also, once you have the

shot, can you get it? >> if you've had it, it's a lifetime immunity. if you've had both shots with the booster, it's about 98% to 99% lifetime immunity. but you sometimes may have to have that checked because in some cases, it wears off. now, it can wear off. so what i do is if someone's going to travel to disneyland right now, for example, and i can prove that they're immune. now, to eric's point about the border camps, eric, by the time you recognize measles, it may be too late because the first symptoms as david was saying, fever, fatigue, runny nose. you know what that sounds like? the flu. but you get these red eyes. red eyes are very characteristic. inside your mouth, you have white spots with a red halo around them. that's somebody like us, a doctor who would diagnose it that way. to david's point about autism and generalmy jenny mccarthy, l this. dying from the measles, about 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 2,000 cases.

encephalit encephalitis, brain swelling, major complications, bronchitis, pneumonia, severe complications, 2 in 1,000. that's way, way more than the 1 in 1 million or 1 in 5 million risk you're taking with that vaccine. >> there's no evidence-based medicine to prove that these can cause autism. this is the third time we're saying it and i hope it gets through. i also want to make sure that even though we mentioned disneyland twice, this has nothing to do with disneyland. it is safe. anywhere that you will find kids, you'll have this kind of problem. whether it's in school or not, some moms certainly in ohio, in colorado where the numbers are going up, they're against immunization. they think that the kids are getting too much of this viral load quickly. we can have a debate about this, but i think you jeopardize other kids in the public environment. >> so what if your child had the measles, they got the measles, right, and then you decided i want to get the shot? can you do that? >> yeah. you certainly can, but again, the child is already immune at that point. >> ah. >> i also want people to know,

you can spread this. the most common way to spread this is cough or sneeze, and that can travel about five feet. it also lives on surfaces for about two hours. so the point, and to david's point about disney, david's point about disneyland, it's the close crowds that's the issue. that could be in a school, a church, a synagogue, or it could be in a place like disneyland where everybody's crowded, close together on a ride. >> the most important part of this whole thing is it's the most contagious virus. with ebola, we had no vaccine. with this, we have. and it could easily be stopped. so encourage and educate and get the vaccine. that's really important. >> the most contagious virus known to man is measles. >> like we said last week with the flu, wash your hands. wash your hands a lot, right? >> wash your hands, but get the vaccine for your kids. >> absolutely, before they go to school. >> i love that, eric, about washing hands. >> it's the best way. >> i'm all for it. >> go to a restaurant, someone doesn't wash their hands. that's one message we can bring here. i think that's important.

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and back now on "sunday housecall." january is thyroid awareness month, a time dedicateded t spreading awareness of thyroid disease which currently affects about 20 million americans. doctor, what is thyroid disease, first of all, and how do you know if you've got it? >> that's a great point. starting with the endocrine

organ that looks like a butterfly that sits on our neck. and believe it or not, it's responsible for all of our metabolism, the rate of metabolism is all coordinated by the thyroid. it affects your brain. it affects your heart, your digestive system, can affect your skin and everything else. and that's why it's a big secret and it's good to know about this. now, you talk about thyroid disease, that's a big term. what exactly are we talking about? the hormone thyroid that's coming from pituitary from the brain is responsible for this. if you have low thyroid, that's called hypothyroid, all the symptoms you talked about, fatigue, tired, you're gaining weight, losing your hair, constipation, all of that. and who doesn't have that? so we talk about nutrition, weight loss, but meanwhile your thyroid may be low. i want people to know this. check your tsh. it's the hormone you should check. >> what? >> tsh, thyroid stimulating hormone and t3. by the way, all of this information -- >> t3 or t4?

what's that? >> your thyroid hormones. >> animals can have that, too, low thyroid. >> absolutely. so now what happens if you have too much of it? thank you. good point. >> my cat, i remember she died from that. i'm sorry. >> if you have too much thyroid, you would be hyperthyroid. as a result, you'd be anxious. your engine is running way faster than what it should. you lose weight despite the fact that you eat a lot, you sometimes may have diarrhea. your digestive system is not working well. one other thing is an inflammation process. it's says inflammation of the thyroid. your immune system attacks your thyroid. that's another thyroid disease. and one more, thyroid cancer, which we see a lot of it. it could be any other thing. and the way you do it is to do a good exam. >> is it women as well as men? because you hear about it in

women. >> ten times more in women. around 50 million are underdiagnosed. and i think it's important to know how you found this. how do you diagnose -- >> can i say something? i know a woman, it's not me because i would tell you, but another woman, she was having trouble getting pregnant. >> that's right. >> everything. everything. they finally checked her thyroid levels. they corrected it. she got pregnant. >> it affects the menstrual cycle in a big way. it really affects your whole body. maybe you can -- >> in terms of pregnant women, i'll start with that hugely important that every woman trying to get pregnant or is pregnant get checked for thyroid. five times more men than women have thyroid disease. 10 million of those 15 million are low thyroid. 10 million are low thyroid. low thyroid we talked about. constipation, hair loss, fatigue. the number one symptom i see is depression. people that are very sluggish. they can't tolerate the cold. i'm looking for thyroid right out of the chute. and both with hashimoto's.

with grave's disease, it's high thyroid. you feel anxious. you're sweating. you're flushed. your eyes are popping out. in that case, it's due to also antibodies. both times it's thyroid. one more thing i want to add. at the beginning of the segment, you showed a real wimp on there trying to examine the thyroid. i'm going to take my life in my hands here now and examine a very prominent surgeon. but i want to tell you, it's about not being wimpy like that guy that we showed. the thyroid exists down here. when david swallows, it comes up into the range where i can feel it. the doctor has got to stand behind you. swallow, david. and then i feel his thyroid coming up into the notch. he does not have any nodules. normally i would tell him to take his tie off but this is the way it's done. if you want to do it yourself, arthel, you drink a glass of water. >> you can do it.

>> you can examine your own thyroid? >> absolutely. examine your own thyroid by putting your finger in that notch and swallowing. >> what are you looking to feel for? >> for a nodule. >> you look for any lumps or bumps. then you can get an ultrasound and get a biopsy. i think this is a great opportunity for dr. siegle. he's been waiting for four years to choke me. >> i was thinking that. this could go wrong, very wrong. sf >> one more thing. here's the good news that eric is looking for. this is so treatable. if p you hayou have low thyroid give you something. it just replaces the tie reside and you're back to normal. it's a great medication. >> how long do you have to stay it? >> well, usually for life. >> also, you have to monitor it. >> absolutely. >> because sometimes the doctors end up overshooting and then you can go from low thyroid. this is quite important. you can go from high thyroid to hyperthyroid and many studies have shown it can cause osteoporosis. >> bottom line, think of thyroid disease. >> if something is wrong in your

system, think thyroid disease because it affects your whole entire system. >> and i just passed the test here. i did not feel like choking the doctor. but i didn't find anything wrong with him either. >> by the way, we post all of these, what's normal on my facebook and we'll let you know what all the data is. >> and we'll send you a bill. >> yes. and i have to get over this choking business. >> i'm looking for a little more action myself. >> next week. >> ooh. >> as the only girl in the room, i'm going to ignore all of these guys and stay focused. and here we come. should you worry about not taking your vitamins? there is a virtual sea of supplements out there. the doctors are here to navigate that straight ahead.

>> time now for should i worry, our weekly segment about everything that worries us. this viewer is asking, i don't take any vitamins or any other supplements. should i worry? dr. samadi, should he or she worry? >> i think taking vitamins is important for people who really don't have a complete baseline and they are not getting their minerals and nutrients. if you are always on the go, if you are under a lot of stress, if you are not sleeping well, if you don't have time to eat healthy food then i think it is a good idea to get supplements. i think part of the problem is sometimes we think more ismerier, we overdo with it the vitamins and that's a huge mistake because they can change the rhythm and the cells' communications and you can create cancers. for example, we said vitamin e is great for you, then later on we found out too much causes

prostate cancer. vitamin a is great for your eyes, too much in smokers can cause problems. i think this is a very fine line as to how much you take and how much you don't take. given the fact our food has a lot of fat, sugar, and salt, then i think you need to be careful about having a good nutritionist, having a good dietician. if you are getting adequate foods and vegetables and 45 foods, you are okay. but if you are not, then i think having a multivitamin, that's a balance, with pinpoint vitamins. for example, let's say i'm worried about my losing my hair. i want to add biotin to my supplements. so individualized care is the best plan. that's what i would do. >> you talk about a nutritionist. people can't afford that. so how dune? >> as an internist i check for certain vitamin deficientese he is in every patient. vitamin d is huge. it's more of a who mon than a

vitamin. and most people in the northern climate are vitamin derks d deficient. they should take d 3, 1 to 2,000 units a day. another is folate. >> even if you are not pregnant. >> eve if you are not pregnant, there has been information it may help reduce the risk of heart disease and cancers. vitamin b-12, incredible epidemic of it going on in people, they lose the ability to absorb it a while. and for vegetarians, it's in meat only. b-12 you have to take it under your tongue for it to be absorbed properly, it won't be absorbed through your stomach. those are the ones that i look for. >> or if you have taking antacid medication. >> what i like to do is everybody has a balanced diet. fruits, vegetables, whole grains, nuts, healthy oils. that's the diet we recommend. the other thing i want to add is vitamin k i worry about for people on blood thinners. vitamin k is in most of the

multivitami multivitamins. >> spinach, vitamin k? >> right. >> you do get a lot from there. >> but if you have on a blood thinner you have to watch out for that. >> you said sometimes you take potassium. >> yeah. >> for example, people taking die your ethics or water pills that's a good way to adjust the potassium. but you can't just take it because your best friend is taking -- that's what's going on, a neighbor look at the other and says i'm taking a vitamin, you should be taking. it talk to someone, look at your only whole panel. >> and talk to the pharmacist because if you are taking medications prescribed by the doctors -- >> everyone should be look at individually. one at a time. you may need some, but you may not need them all. >> and a lot of these studies are still being studied. >> i'm still taking my flintstones. >> and also washing hands again. >> physicians are showing an

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>> of course. now they say that eating oatmeal could be a key a. study shows that people who eat whole grains lower their risk of cardiovascular death by 15%. dr. siegel. >> i'm going to post oatmeal recipes on my facebook this week. it's my first tool for my patients to lower cholesterol. it has four grams of feicker, which are terrific for digestion. if you have oatmeal, maybe you won't eat all the bad stuff, is the bacon and the omlette. the one thing about oatmeal, it has a lot of carbohydrates, 27 grams of carbs, and 150 calories. if you are on a low carb diet it might have to be your only carbon of the day. >> i like it because it gives you balance, you have fiber so it balances the sugar.

you don't go through spikes, don't have the crave. vitamins and niacin. and it reduces the death from cardiovascular tide and disease. start your day with oatmeal, that's a good one. and blueberries. >> fox news alert now, a drive by shooting outside the home of vice president joe biden. i'm harris faulkner. multiple shots fired outside the secret service security zone as they call it. bullets racing past the biden residence in delaware. peter duesy is near that scene of the shooting live in wilmington, delaware. peter, we are going to go to you now with the tlatest on this. >> reporter: harris, this is where it all went down lat the middle east night at about 8:30 p.m. a car raced done barley mill road in the vicinity of the vice president's house and fired multiple gunshots out the window of those gunshots were heard by secret s