it has been an honor to meet the family of chris kyle. go to facebook dot.com/hannity. thank you for being with us for this special edition. hope you have a great night. >> welcome to a kelly file special taking on terror is the name this evening. in the aftermath of jihadists going on a terror rampage with threat looming large in the united states there is one key question that has gone largely unanswered. what is america's strategy for fighting all of this.

>> it was on the rise around the world. how is america fighting back. that's the question. the next hour we will investigate this. how has the white house responded to this recent rash of terrorism. how are other countries around the world reacting to this and how are they handling it? what is the danger that exists of another attack here at home. we are going to be joined this evening by a retired four star general jack keenan larry corb ron derner and more. let's begin with trace gallagher on what america and the world is facing today. trace? >> they amplified their calls from lone wolves attacks from western targets. securi acknowledged they are becoming more rev vant and more difficult long before

the attacks against the french newspaper the terrorist killer were well-known to french authorities. the same authorities waited who couldn't watch them more closely it is the only breeding ground from radical sympathizers. canada was hit with two lone wolf attacks the first by 25-year-old man who used his car to rundown two canadian soldiers killing one. the suspect was a well-known radical muslim who posted islamic rants and the isis flag on his facebook page. days later another convert to islam with a criminal history shot and killed the ceremonial guard on canada's parliament hill. >> everybody was in shock. i couldn't believe that something like this could just happen to be real. it was beyond realism. >> the gunman then died in a shootout in the halls of

parliament with the canadian prime minister steven harper just one door away from the shooting. a day later a man pulled a hatchet on four rookie police officers striking one officer in the arm another in the back of the head. both officers arrived. both officers were shot and killed. facebook page had telling comments about his support for home grown terrorism saying quoting here helicopters, big military will be useless on their own soil. if you get wounded who cares if you surrender then the war will be over. home grown terror struck done under when a man who pledged his allegiance to abu bakar held several hostages and eventually killing a cafe manager. the same terrorists earlier sent

horrifying letters to the families of australian soldiers who were killed overseas. of course isis has told his followers to find his names and addresses of u.s. soldiers and kill them. >> trace, thank you. >> joining us now retired joint chief of staff and fox news military analyst general. good to have you here this evening. >> this is the big question that we want to answer. what is the united states strategy to take on this global threat that exists in all of these forms with a common purpose? >> sad to say we don't have a strategy and strategy. as you are leading up to and as implies in my belief this is radical islam is the global security challenge of our generation. much as fascism in the last 20-years and middle of last

century and communism was for 40 years in the latter part of the 20th century. this challenge with radical islam we have been at it now for 20-years. it began with the world trade center in the early 90's the u.s.s. cole two embassies dropped in africa 9-11 and all of the things that have been happening since. after 20-years the facts are that radical islam is on the rise. it has quadrupled four times over in the middle east and africa it is on the rise in asia and they are motivating sympathizers and radical islamists in western countries to attack their home populations and things of interest. >> some say that we created it that the wars in iraq and afghanistan and abu ghraib and other places is what prompted this radicalism. do you believe that? >> that is absolute rubbish. this is a geopolitical movement

what they tell us what their objectives are their objectives are to dominate and control muslim lands. caliphate is a good word for it. all muslim lands. eventually to dominate and control the world. the ideology and geopolitical vision are as great as communism. what is different about it is they use jihad or the ability to kill innocent or nonbelievers to accomplish those objectives. so the facts that 9-11 occurred and we responded to that somehow that has created this movement or grew this movement more rapidly makes no sense whatsoever. it is another failure to understand what is this geopolitical movement that is driven by radical islamist ideology. our leaders do not explain that to us. we do not get educated about what this is. therefore they are off the hook in terms of providing a

comprehensive strategy. >> you talk about communism and we remember gorbachev and margaret thatcher bringing that to an end and roosevelt and churchill and the buyinger theme to end it. doesn't seem like we have that tyned kind of leadership and understanding of a global threat with this current administration. >> those 17 deaths and the barbaric way they go about doing it and beheadings that have taken place in syria and 2000 deaths we have just observed outrageous observance in boko haram. this is what makes it so dangerous in the entire world it is a fact the treasures and information and exchanges they have we know one of the major

under begin minuteings is to acquire weapons of mass destruction. this if they were to get that they would use that to a maximum advantage in great population centers in the world. ? is a dangerous movement and it is growing and we don't have the kind of 20th century leadership exerciseed by america and dealing with this growing mess. >> thank you for being here. >> the summit on countering violence extremism is going to be the name of it. they focused on the summit on radical islamic extremism it will recover multiple types of extremism they are concerned

about. what are the names of them the state department could not label that. the larry koesh is here now defense secretary and epicenter for american progress. good to have you. good to see you p tonight. thank you for being here. >> you just heard general jack keen talk about what he sees as abysmal lack of leadership in terms of recognizing the global threat that exists and having a po he'sive strategy. >> first of all you are not going to win it militarily you have a ideology and what you have to do is convince people that what these radicals are preaching is not the future of muslims. that's why you have to engage leaders in the muslim world. militarily they are doing it correctly. the previous administration over reacted. al qaeda and iraq didn't exist until we went there.

right now when we are fighting isis in the middle east we have a great number of muslim allies including saudi arabia and united arab emirates. >> al qaeda iraq existed on september 11th. they are the group that attacked us. the argument that it didn't exist i don't understand, frankly. when you look at the threat that exists right now and ask yourself what the strategy is my question is what would you do specifically. what we are doing has not worked. it has been growing and growing and growing. >> again, i would disagree with you in terms of al qaeda. for example the leader of isis was somebody we captured in iraq puts in a prison and he became radicalized.

that helped spread the whole thing. >> we are creating all of these radicals who want to kill somebody? >> we are creating them by the things we have done. you mentioned it in talking about abu gray. we were correct going to afghanistan. everybody agreed with that. nato supported it the iranians supported us there when we went into afghanistan. iraq was something completely different. now if you are taking a look at what we are doing he was killed three years ago. bin laden was killed. you go after the leadership. >> we have thousands of people dying every day at the hands of boko haram, at the hands of all of these org anizationsorganizations. whatever we are doing it is clearly not working. >> we the united states are not threatened by all of these groups. we have to decide who threatens

us. we can't solve it by ourselves. we are doing it right now when we went into iraq we did it essentially by ourselves. >> thank you. i have to leave it there. good to have you tonight. >> we have warnings from a man who was once deep inside al qaeda before becoming a double agent. see why he thinks we are missing the point of these terrible attacks. >> he accused the american media of playing into the hands of the terrorists. up next the press, our pol lalitical leaders and the threat for american islam. >> the battle is against extremism. why is that so hard to say? >> it is not the only kind we face. >> what other forms of extremism are important and compelling to you right now?

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>> they have all said quite clearly the battle against islamic extremism why is that not hard to say? it is not hard to say but it is not the only time of extremism we face. we are going to focus on the different kinds of extremism with heavy focus on people who do this in the name of islam.

that was mary hart on the-- marie harf with an argument heard repeated repeatedly by the obama administration. not all who call themselves muslims is a twisted version of a peaceful face. even if they claim the murders are avengeing the prophet mohammed in the horrific tape from paris. [ inaudible ] >> she is muslim and the author of "in the land of invisible women." a book on what life is like for women in largely majority muslims. what is your thought on what you hear from those men on the a priest. >> they executed someone in the

holy name of mohammed. absolute tongue tied nature of u.s. discourse about this problem. i think i can explain this for us. i would use the word islamist to describe all these acts. islam i understand and agree with the administration does not advocate this kind of behavior. this borrows feels metaphors language from my religion and is explicit lie totalitarian does advocate the acts we have seen in france. in my opinion the mean stream muslims do not represent my belief claim to act in what they believe is a religion. this is politicized total carian ideology. the discomfort is they do not want to use the word islam or islamic. i understand and empathize with it but this radicalizational totalitarian ideology is distorted out of our beliefs.

you can say it is separate but it is not without a relationship. the two are together but interrelated and apart. we are living in complicated times and there are no simple answers to these complex questions. seeing the representative not being able to say or other deputy spokespersons not being able to say this makes you feel we can't even name the beast we are facing. >> when you listen to what they have said in egypt where he talks about how outraged he is about the destructive nature of what's going on in the name of islam and he called it out very clearly. i was also watching the mayor of rotterdam in the netherlands who is muslim. he had very strong language to talk about he said if you are not happy with freedom you need to go find another country. he was very outraged. they are so clear in how they are looking at it and what they are saying to people who are of the muslim faith who are peaceful that they need to react and they need to respond.

what's your take on that? >> i am so glad you brought that up. the president's invitation to the religious scholars was to distract this ideology that contaminated islam but does originate and get leg miezed byler ricks all over the world. i have written about this in tomorrow morning's spectator called "let there be light" article. it is time to examine this type of ideology to islam. that is something we are shying away from in the united states because of our administration's lead. >> i questioned the state department spokeswoman on the thread that exists between all of these horrific can acts when you look at hamas and boko haram when you look at the organizations and what they have done are we making a mistake when we don't see a thread in their motivations? >> it is a direct approach. i would disagree. the common threat is not the

nationality or geography or method of assault on secular pluralisticues it is the i don't do idealing which is islamism. important for our viewers to understand it can be violent exactly as we see. charlie hebdo was the most explicit war on specular values we have seen to date. it is attacking the core of freedom of speech self ex tropical depressionpregs and vocal identity. the ideology they have inspired is very similar and have to be named if we are going to approach it. >> thank you very much. we will look for your article as it comes out. good to seek with you. we need to have more of this conversation. >> it is a difficult and radioactive discussion most people don't want to approach. >> good to have you here. >> we also have new developments on the controversy of closing guantanamo bay. they could soon come back to

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. so the obama adm >> the obama administration is under efforts to close down guantanamo bay detention center. more detainees has been released since mid term elections in the last three years combined. listen to what he had to say last week on the kelly files. >> the detainees released by the administration many dez knighted high risk. that means high risk for reengagement of terrorism. that is where the focus needs to be not in the president trying to fulfill a campaign promise. >> joining me now is andrew mccarthy. >> she is right?

>> absolutely right. what obama is doing is trying to fulfill the promise he made in the first day of the administration which is guantanamo bacon gres won't let him do it through the front door so he is letting the terrorists out the back door. >> there were a number that said the recidivism rate waudz in the single digits which is surprising when the numbers in the past have been close to 30 something percent. >> i found this to be a foolish endeavor that they do with reindividualvism. let's say the reindividualvism rate is 45 percent for terrorists it is 20 percent which is what they used to say like 1 in 5. terrorists and mass murders. it's not like if they get out they are going to kill the people. the fact of the matter is in the places where these guys go back we don't have good intelligence. unless you encounter someone on the battlefield or have certain

knowledge of what he is actually doing which we often don't we don't know who has gone back to jihadist activity and who hasn't. >> if it is 6 percent or 2 percent it doesn't really matter. the kinds of acts are so heinous in nature. >> in terms of the legality and how it works with congress can you do it and work with attrition to close down guantanamo bay. >> enemy combatants in war time they can't prevent you from doing it by making it illegal doto do it. it remedies the constitution to suggest to places they don't want to go. >> they were released by bowe bergdahl.

it was pretty losey goosey. >> they replenished the enemy in war times while they have defensive terrorist against soldiers and people. >> are there a ton of people in the country who will be so excited to say the 120 in guantanamo bay has been released? >> i think it's a major issue in if the country they not be released and major issue of obama's base that they be released. they are the people they listen to. so they p aren't the only ones talking about future attacks. morris lambist terrorists who abandoned his faith and went to work for a double agent. >> i am talking about the united states.

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>> live from america's news headquarters i am kelly wright. pope fran tess live in the vatican after capping off his trip to the philippines. estimated 6 billion people were there for the pope speech. recounting experience of a 12-year-old girl where she reportedly cried in his arms. the young girl was living on the streets before a church foundation took her in. the pope dedicating today's mass to the children. two possible republicans at the white house at the tea party convention in south carolina. ted cruz calling for a more conservative candidate. someone like mitt romney will keep many voters home in 2016. many spoke out calling the usa a

welfare state. many americans are locked in poverty. i am kelly wright now back to "a kelly file special." >> a new warning on the spread of so-called al qaeda sleeper cells after the recent attacks we have seen in france. a former al qaeda insider who later became a double agent is suggesting this problem could get a whole lot worse. morton storm grew up in den mar. after a teenage life filled with crime he discovered a new identity in islam. he tried to join us with fellow jihadists. his mission was eventual lay canceled. he later discovered serious contradictions in the koran he wound up renouncing his faith becoming a double agent with intelligence intelligence services and

working with the cia as well. he was tasked with finding him a wife. listen to this message from awlaki to his would be wife in which he me thinks a trusted brother who was in fact double agent. >> the whole thing is done specifically for sister at her request. the brother who is carrying this recording is a trust worthy brother. >> amazing right. a his true identity was discovered in an isis video last year. the cia neither confirmed or denied his work as an informant. the secret recording he made reveals the true extent of his mission. >> i am talking about the united states. oo . but he knows about your work.

>> okay. >> so the right people know your contributions. >> yeah. >> and for that we are thankful. >> yeah. >> coauthor of "agent storm" a member war as he was a double agent in al qaeda in yemen. morton storm good to have you with us tonight. >> welcome. >> thank you very much. >> your story is extraordinary. you have insight very few people can bring to the table. as you look at what happened over the course of this last week what has toit told you about what could be coming next? >> well, it looks very, very pessimistic to me. we have seen them waking up now there are no threats out there. absolutely al qaeda and isis threatened us now and they have seen claimed responsibility in

yemen. their threats are not just threats any more they are a reality. it happens and it will continue. >> you talk about the fact that akab and isis were combined in this particular attack. the man who did the attack at the supermarket left isis and the other two. how huge is that and what does it signal? >> it is a bad thing. it is a worse case scenario. these two groups despite their differences you know where they are in spite of having those differences they are able to incorporate in the missions with unfortunately horrific attack you know. >> you talk about your connection to alabamawlaki and the

kouachi brothers revered him. the outreach since he was born in if the united states to so many operatives that spoke english and had passports but it took years. he was killed in 2011 it took years for them to actually carry this out. they are patient and they have long term plans do they not? >> yes of course. these people will be very patient to achieve the goals. that terms they are ready to give up the whole life. this is an enemy who will give up so they managed to be sleeping all this time until the preparations have been made with the weapons and you see what happened in france. not only that to attack the freedom of speech. >> i want to play for you a bit of the sound from the news conference at the state department that deals with how easy it is to move around the

world with a passport regardless of your affiliations. listen to this, please. >> to go on a watch list you don't necessarily lose your passport but it doesn't -- sinl pli being a member of a designated terrorist organization isn't grounds. >> doesn't ought mat lee clean you are revoked. >> doesn't mean if you are a member of al qaeda or isis you lose your passport. >> correct. >> what do you any about that? >> i agree with the gentlemen. if there are strong suspicions that these people are affiliated with terrorists either inside the country or afraud the citizenships or passports would be great for them. >> when you look at these young men the could youkouachi brothers

somebody who is educated but hasn't been able to make it and wanted to be a rapper i thought about the boston marathon bomber who was a boxer and ended up going to chechnya and pulling this off in boston what worries you about this profile and how many of you out who would be susceptible to them being sucked in. >> that is the problem many think you will only become an isis member by joining the ranks. it is an ideology. it is a way of practicing islam and that we can have many individuals, moneys of them thousands of them in our own countries. some don't want all of the people to know the hidden agenda. you have seen that other places in europe. >> martin storm thank you very

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a new threat from isis calling followers to "rise up >> isis telling police officers soldiers and civilians they are naming the united states, france australia and canada as their targets. trace gallagher reports. trace? >> it is very clear the internet and social media helped to create a lone wolf terror problem in the u.s. and other countries. some republican lawmakers would strip passport and citizenship from americans who join or train in the terrorist organization. experts say equally pressing concern deals with radicalized followers who never leave the u.s. just this week in ohio an isis social media follower was arrested for plotting to attack the u.s. capital. the 20-year-old suspect wanted to set off a series of bombs and then shoot lawmakers as they fled their offices.

officials say the man not only posted statements rather videos pledging support for icy but did recognizanceulding zahns as-- recognizance. here is deputy police commissioner john miller. >> civilians but mrs. police officers intelligence officers and soldiers were all legitimate targets according to isil. they were asking their followers whenever they were to carry out those threats with whatever means they had available. >> federal authorities are having random searchs for carry-on bags after the latest issue of al qaeda inspired magazine provided details guys for making bombs to get through security saying the bombs could be made of stuff that is already

in your mom's kitchen. >> thanks trace. israel's prime minister visit the kosher supermarket in paris where four jewish customers were shot in the french terror attacks. he shared a warning with the world saying quote the terrorist strikes we experience here will grow to dimensions people do not yet understand. joining me now is israel's ambassador to the united states ron dermer. you are saying this is an indeed much broader struggle, correct? >> absolutely. most important thing in fighting islam it is militant islam. the most important thing in fighting is understanding it. all of these groups that understand the grievance they are all connected they are fired the same fanaticism. it doesn't matter if it is bow co har boko haram or not. i can only tell you how my prime minister sees the issue.

we see the groups connected. doesn't mean they are sitting in the same war planning an attack. hamas and gaza isis and iraq and syria hezbollah and lebanon they times fight each other but they hate jews and christians and america. in their vision of the world there is no place for any of us. the muslims are the greatest victims of military islam. >> when you look at what israel has known for so many years and that so many of us sort of grew up a whole generation watching that and feeling for the people of israel do you believe that the rest of us are about to live in a world where we have to get used to or get real about experiencing similar attacks like that? >> absolutely. it is one thing to have all of

these radical preachers in suburbs of london and paris and brussel. it is quite fwhoeranother thing to have them come back setting upper or cells. there are so many soft targets in europe and the united states. they have to find the right balance between protecting civil liberties which is the heart of democracy but also securing citizens. we have to find that balance. i think we have done a good job of doing that for the last 66 years of our state living with threats like noner but living -- >> we are going to be in a world if we don't do something very dramatically quickly where we have these kind of attacks where we have to seal ourselves against going to the supermarket as we saw from the people at charlie hebdo and those on 9-11 as well. what advice tough to make it as

livable as possible if this is the direction we are going. i hope not but what if? >> first of all identify the danger. you have to have effective policing you have to have effective intelligence. you have to have laws that will effectively deal with the problem. you also have to wage a moral batted el. the single most important thing in fighting terrorism is moral clarity. you have to take a stand against terrorists. the last couple days people were talking about who wasn't at a valley. you know what concerned knee a couple of people who were in a rally. i saw president abbas standing in a rally in paris. he's in a rally in paris against terrorism yet he is in a government of hamas. i saw the prime minister of turkey at the rally and yet hamas an organization terror organization whose charter calls for the murder of jews worldwide they had their military headquarters in turkey. no one speaks out against it. if we are going to win the battle we have to stand

together. >> some people say they were there. they were there and that says something. we do have muslim leaders in the netherlands as well as in egypt starting to stand up and point the finger back at these militant islamists in their own ranks. wouldn't it have helped if president obama had been at the march. he could have turned around to all of the leaders you just mentioned and say i was there. you were there. we marched together. what did we march for when we marched together and hold them to accounted. >> the united states is leading the whole world in confronting al qaeda and leading the world in confronting isis. i have no doubt whatsoever where the united states spans in the struggle. i have no doubt where the president of egypt stands who spoke out in a courageous way against fundamentalism and something that hasn't been that widely reported here in the united states. i have big doubts about where president abbas stands. he has to be against terror even

when jews were the ones being killed. get out of the lines you have made with hamas. i have big lines about turkey. turkey having terrorists and military headquarters in turkey. they were standing with the united states and the rest of the world confronting terrorism. united states, canada, france germany, israel, australia all of us have to stand together to win this. >> thank you so much. good to have you here tonight. >> the new focus on isis and al qaeda may be distracting from another brutal army we have seen before. up next the disturbing new messages coming from boko haram and how their leader is trying to steal the spotlight after the attacks in paris. all the way until... the am. new aleve pm the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour strength

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so while the world focuses attention on al qaeda isis and the terror attacks in paris, another barbaric radical islamic army boko haram is also causing a lot of heartbreak. jennifer griffin joins us now with the latest. >> martha, with all eyes on terrorists, the head of boko haram tried to steal the spotlight praising the attack in france in a new video after slaughtering up to 2,000 people last week and capturing a key military base causing some to ask why after i am charlie the world is not saying i am baga. >> we are the american university of nigeria and we are situated in ground zero where all of this is taking place. we are essentially in boko haram's backyard. and we have a lot of american who is actually live there and teach there and have their

families there. and so you cannot just leave us stranded like that. >> dr. lionel rollins has been invited to president obama's extremism next month. the nigh jeern terrorists who kidnapped 200 schoolgirls last april has been on the move capturing 12 towns in the past six months. boko haram now controls more territory than isis. >> president obama has been able to draw forces into the iraq and syrian region to be able to confront isis boko haram and spread in northern nigeria across the northern part of the continent of africa is equally equally a threat. >> competing for attention with isis and al qaeda, boko haram sent a 10-year-old female suicide bomber into a market killing 16 people. >> we haven't seen boko haram focus beyond the region. >> they do not have the desire to come to the united states or

to attack the united states yet. but just like everything else it starts regional and it's like a like a cancer it spreads. >> the nigerian government meanwhile canceled a u.s. counter-terrorism training program last month and senior u.s. officials confirmed it has not asked for u.s. drones to take off in search of the kidnapped girls for some time. martha? >> thank you, jennifer. we will be right back. try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief. [container door opening] ♪

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