notify us, i don't know what would have happened. jenna: everybody, including foxy got out safe. fox news, fox -- jon: that is great. good for him. we'll see you back here in an hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts now. >> de-flategate. patriots' coach bill belichick says he does not know how footballs became deflated during the afc title game that got his team to the super bowl but declining to answer questions at a news conference earlier today. he says the patriots' quarterback, tom brady, can talk about his preferences in football inflation, and sure enough brady is now expected to address reporters later today. we're being told 4 p.m. eastern. we will have more on these breaking developments on this in a moment. ♪ ♪ >> this is "outnumbered," i'm

andrea tantaros, and here with us today harris faulkner kimberly guilfoyle and today's *oneluckyguy, all rise, judge alex fresh out of miami, and he's "outnumbered." >> i love that. >> great to be back. >> we come to miami sometime? >> we layer too sometimes. >> when he does a show, he needs to have you do it, because that was an awesome slow. >> i could definitely have you as my bailiff. >> i was going to say -- [laughter] do i get a nightstick? handcuffs? nobody would ever leave the courtroom. >> and nobody would listen to me. [laughter] >> all right let's get to it. the foreign policy standoff between the president and congress n. a move that blindsided the white house, speaker of the house john

boehner inviting the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, to stand before congress and push for new sanctions against iran. he will speak in march as lawmakers on both sides are pushing for fresh penalties if there's no deal soon to prevent a nuclear-armed iran, a measure the president promises to veto. speaker boehner says his invite in no way breaches protocol. >> i did not consult with the white house. the congress can make this decision on its own. i don't believe i'm poking anyone in the eye. there is a serious threat that exists in the world. and the president last night kind of papered over it. >> well last night referring to the president's state of the union address. but a white house that was caught off guard appears to see this very differently. now, traveling on air force one with the president, press secretary josh earnest saying quote: this particular event seems to be a departure from that protocol.

but, again the president hasp spent more time and on -- has spent more time and on more occasions talked to prime minister netanyahu than any other world leader. >> okay, judge, i want to go to you first on this. this appears to be the biggest clash that we've seen between congress and the white house on the middle east. of course, the president talking about sanctions against iran saying i'm going to veto anything that imposes sanctions. if you look there actually is some democratic support. i believe 12 democrats are joining republicans and following mr. boehner's lead saying listen, we have to do manager. we've got to put together some legislation that could impose sanctions on iran and, judge, if they get those 12 democrats, they may be able to override a presidential veto. so this could be a really big deal. >> and it should be a really big deal, because this is not partisan politics. if iran gets a nuclear weapon what happened in paris wouldn't have been a few guys with

machine guns killing a handful, it could have been a dirty bomb going off and killing hundreds of thousands of people. that is a total game changer and netanyahu knows it. i think this is exactly the type of situation where democrats and republicans really have to put everything aside and override a presidential veto. the argument that this is a snub against the white house, a violation of protocol, seriously? i mean, the way the white house has treated netanyahu in the past? >> yeah. >> president obama, because he was angry that he wasn't making concessions on settlements, left netanyahu with staff and went to dinner with his wife? >> that's right. the white house has snubbed netanyahu on a number of occasions even when he was in israel, he snubbed visiting the knesset, so now the white house is saying they're violating protocol. how about how the president treats congress? >> i always like to look back at history.

by the way, the joint session speech is set for february 1 119th, just so we put it out there -- 11th. nancy pelosi went to meet with president basharal as sat despite bush administration objections. diplomatic registrations had broken down -- relations had broken down in the 1990s and president bush rejected it saying that's not what's going to work. why was it okay then but not okay now? i use history as the benchmark to inform us, why is it not okay? >> that's the reason why the public hates politics because it always comes down to a matter of who's ox is being gored. >> that's right. and at the time they told nancy pelosi they did not want her traveling to syria. this time they're saying they're blindsided, but what do you expect? he has flouted congress on so many issue, they're saying we've

got some power too, we're inviting him to speak, and they're doing him a favor. he doesn't seem to have a big stick on foreign policy. look, if you look at netanyahu standing up there, if you don't cooperate, look whose side we're on? >> well there hasn't been presidential leadership as it relates to to our relationship with israel, so you're seeing boehner and congress step this to fill the void in a very important area with respect to our national security, foreign policy and that of israel. we have really faltered as a country to really embrace them because of the direction of this leadership and their political ideology. i think this is crucial. he did not violate any constitutional laws. i'm happy to see this kind of stepping up to let the president know you will no longer act unilaterally. we represent the people of this great country, and this is the direction we need to go in. >> it's strategically smart on his part. even very conservative republicans like trey trey gowdy matt salmon in arizona their facebook pages and twitter and phone lines blew up when they

voted for boehner because the base wasn't sure he would be tough enough against obama. i think this shows that he's tough, i think it represents the will of the members of the house. i've talked to some of them, and they are mad about him coming into, you know, being welcomed into the well of the house and giving a campaign speech. >> rachel your husband is a member of the house, he's a congressman. quickly, do you sense this is a new tone that boehner's going to take, tough talk with the white house? >> i think he's going to get positive feedback, and that's going to encourage him to keep it up. >> well, if his weekly address was any indication he says if the president expects us to capitulate on this quote-unquote, hell no. all right, we're going to turn to the nfl scandal which is getting bigger. by 4:00 eastern, it could be huge. the accusations that the super bowl-bound patriots broke the rules by using underinflated footballs. some players say balls with less

area give them a better grip. makes sense especially in the nasty winter weather. head coach bill belichick this morning faced reporters for the first time since the scandal broke about concerns the patriots used lighter ballings earlier this season. -- balls earlier this season. he had this blunt denial: >> when i came in monday morning, i was shocked to learn of the news reports about the footballs. i had no knowledge whatsoever of this situation until monday morning. i've learned a lot more about this process in the last three days than i knew or had talked about it in the last 40 years that i've coached in this league. >> meanwhile a former patriot defending his old team believing new england is getting a bad rap because of past offenses. >> i do think that the patriots definitely don't get the benefit of the doubt whenever things like this arise. i think that ever since the spy,

so-called spygate issue back in 2007 had came came about and everyone started to question their super bowls, everybody started to question their wins, and they still do to this day. >> all right. he just mentioned spygate. that was when belichick got busted for spying on another team's defensive signals. he got fined a half million dollars. okay. i kind of want to set this up with the attorney and the judge and one of you pick the defense, and one of you be the prosecutor in all all this, okay? >> oh, god. [laughter] >> yeah. because, honestly, now it comes down to something that matters about the future. i mean do you look, do you look to do something about this game? do you kick belichick out? what do you do? >> well, if you're hoping i'm going to be the defense attorney, you've got another thing coming. [laughter] >> it's all on you, babe. >> first of all, i have to tell you as a matter of disclosure i'm a dolphins fan, okay? >> i'm sorry, by the way. >> yeah. not nearly as sorry as i am.

[laughter] but as far as the fought rots are concerned, this is now a pattern. he got the name, beli-cheat, because of the reputation for ding things like this. the spying incident happened from 2002-2007 where they were spying and videotaping signals from orr signals. for a head coach to get fined personally a half a million dollars -- >> yeah. >> -- and then to cam back with this? and they took away a first round draft pick. >> let me show you how good kimberly is. she's going to defend this team. >> i have to take off the white hat? all right. listen, they have to have some conclusive proof right? right now they're saying there were 11 out of 12 walls potentially de-- balls deflated. if they can prove this and put the ed -- evidence forward there's a wide range of options. another fine, taking away a

first round draft pick. there are also people calling more them to be disqualified. could it then, in fact change the outcome of the game? look, you've got tom brady. tom brady is one of best quarterbacks to play the game after my favorite, joe montana, from the 49ers. i think it's going to be tough to prove. >> aaron rodgers is pretty darn good too you're from wisconsin and you're looking at this from a fan. what are your thoughts on this? >> well, aaron rodgers says he likes his with a lot of air in it. from a mom perspective, football's supposed to be good clean fun you watch with your kids. i sit down to watch the nfl i have to talk about beyonce's stripper dance on halftime domestic violence, animal abuse, now io discuss cheating. can't they just -- nfl, get your stuff together and understand your market. it's families who want to sit down and watch good clean fun football. >> and the nfl better get it

right, because they're coming off that stinging rebuke about the ray rice punishment -- >> interesting how they keep just stepping in it. so to speak. [laughter] >> well, if they take away a first round draft pick, i don't think that's that big of a deal -- >> that's a big deal. >> oh, that's a big deal. >> wait. but, judge if teams thought they could cheat and get away with it, i'm sure a number of teams would say, fine we'll sacrifice -- >> my point is last time when they caught them cheating, they fined him $500,000 personally and took away a first round draft pick. if i'm sentencing somebody for burglarizing a home you better believe i take into consideration if they did it before and didn't learn their lesson. >> i thought that press conference was abysmal. he stood up there, he filibustered -- >> have you watched any of his press conferences? >> if you're going to call a press conference and invite the media, you have to answer their questions. he just kept saying i don't have

any information about the balls. >> actually, it was kind of how he always handles it. i didn't see anything that different. it was just single topic. >> the equivalent of taking the fifth. >> that's right. but he has to. >> no, no, no he took a knee. it's football. keep up. >> he actually pointed at tom brady and said, well ask him. >> 4 p.m. eastern, tom brady who, by the way has great hair even after he takes his helmet off. he'll be off, -- he'll be on, he'll -- >> way to be focused harris. >> i'm hungry, that's the answer. domino's has a message for the obama administration, the pizza giant says obamacare and a rule with it is forcing the restaurant chain to post calorie information, and it just won't work. and while it carries the possibility of jail time, it's impossible to comply with. so should they change it? plus one major retailer is announcing it'll carry plus-size clothing but only online and now that's sparking a civil

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♪ ♪ >> it's unworkable, that's what dominoes pizza is saying about the final obamacare regulation that is forcing restaurant chains to display calorie information. the executive vice president says the rule is too broad in expanding the definition of what qualifies as a menu. she tells the free beacon: we no longer know what a menu is. it's really or hard to interpret. essentially, they're saying anything a consumer can look at and make a potential ordering decision from is a menu. it could be an ad on the television. violaters could face a fine or jail time but only if they intentionally are misrepresent a product or its calorie content. when something is unbelievably confusing, we take it to the

judge. [laughter] oh, my goodness. pizza, pizza, pizza. >> well, first apparently today is the day of full disclosure. i represented domino's as a lawyer throughout most of florida, and they were a great company -- >> did you get free pizza? >> i did. [laughter] >> tell us. i'm a huge domino's fan i have to tell you. >> do you have to declare that on your -- oh, we won't go there. >> what are you thinking of? >> my thinking is that nobody's going to get arrested for this. they're concerned about we're going to get alet'sed -- >> jail time? >> no. i guarantee you there are no prosecutors out there, state or federal, who are saying, you know, i want the extra pepperoni on a pizza case. [laughter] nobody wants to do that. i am in favor of putting calories on all of the information, all the menus. i like the fact i think new york has that ordnance, don't they? >> yeah. >> i like that. i think people should be aware of what they're eating. but if a law is vague as you know, if the law's ambiguous

it's going to be unenforceable. it's not a comfort to somebody if they actually do get arrested. i think it should be a civil penalty, a fine. >> what about when i'm watching tv i'm starving and i see the domino's -- >> that has to be written, so that's not a menu. >> a diet coke on the side do they have to put it on there? am i going to think twice, pepperoni's 450 calories? >> absolutely. the question is did they write the statute narrowly enough, or is it too broad? if they're going to have to include it in the commercials that's never going to happen. >> that'll be the fine print at the -- >> what about those commercials that say if you've got an elbow that hurts take this. but don't take it -- and there's this long list of things. >> sure. domino's pizza meat special more calories than you could possibly eat in a week. >> the problem is it's written so broadly and so business owners are saying rather than focus on doing what we're supposed to be doing, which is

sending people pizza especially now during the super bowl, we're trying to come buy with this ambiguous, vague law which by the way, has jail time. so if you don't comply, you can go to jail is. which has me wondering, let me get this straight we're releasing prisoners from gitmo, but we're trying to jail -- >> we're decriminalizing drugs. >> right. so you make a pizza, go to jail, and then you behead somebody go to prison, go out and have fun. >> i don't want to know the calorie count of every piece or pizza or cake that i order. what about the rights of people to not know? i think they should just have it on a web site. >> blissful ignorance? >> yeah. if you're that curious, go to the web site. you can do it on the phone. >> i'm a gap of that, i am. -- i'm a fan of that, i am. >> states do have the right to pass ordnances or laws that in their view protect governments, states and federal as well, that protect the publicment you may not want the know how fast you're driving but they still have a speed limit and they

still make people know what it is. >> but paying you to monitor the regulations makes my price of pizza go up. >> yes. [laughter] >> and i think about the mom and pop franchises too, because i think this applies to only those that have 20 or more employees. still, that's a small business -- >> i think it's 20 or more locations, yeah. >> but this hits them in kind of a score spot because you want -- sore spot because you want to make your product seem delicious. >> yes, that's true. but if you knew the calorie counts, i have an app that tells me the calorie count of all the stuff that i eat, and i refer to it when i feel guilty about how i've been eating and it's really depressing when you realize the stuff you like to eat has more calories than you should eat in a day. >> well, you're looking fine. >> oh yeah this group is saying this. >> well, hillary clinton's idea of shock and awe, the report that she's raising so much campaign cash, it could scare away the competition.

plus, city workers in a major u.s. capital told to shut it if they have anything bad to say about the olympics as their city bids to host the games. what happened to free speech, hmm? ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." former secretary of state hillary clinton is ramping up a possible 2016 campaign but at a paid speech last night she dodged a lot of questions on iran are -- iran sanctions. she said she takes the same position as president obama. she wouldn't say what she would do differently when it comes to working with congress, and on the controversial keystone pipeline she only offered this: >> you won't get me to talk

about keystone because i have steadily made clear that i'm not going to express an opinion. this is in our process and that's where it belongs. >> meantime, there are reports hillary is getting ready to launch the fundraising equivalent of, quote, shock and autoscare away -- awe to scare away any potential competition. what about that judge alex? that seems like a coronation, doesn't it? >> it always seem like a coronation when it comes to hillary -- >> or the democrats. >> that's actually true. >> i don't know who's going to give her a run for the money. i heard biden is considering jumping into the race, but i have a feeling that's just talk so he can get some secretary of state position to not become another challenger. the fact that she won't talk about topics is really just the same for every politician. whether republican or democrat they don't want the ruin their chances, so they just stay the

course and avoid all the hot topics until they have to. >> you know she really does need to put distance between herself and president obama rachel but she can't because last time she darted to the middle too soon and allowed that vehicle yule for president obama -- vacuum for pram president obama to come in. i bet she wishes she could endorse the pipeline or something so popular. >> well i think tactically it's smart. it's really early, there's no need for her to do it. but on the other hand, you know, get out there and lead. if you -- show your cards show where you stand. i think this cageginess shows weakness on her part. i think she should lay it all out there but -- >> can she though, cum bearly? -- kimberly? >> i mean, look, she's got to raise the money so she can really ward off elizabeth warren. biden, who knows? elizabeth warren was standing there salivating every

president was speaking. a lot of his pop list followers, the far left love her ideas. she's the fresh face she's the barack obama. hillary, we know. we've tried it. we've test drove the car, we know her record, she's got her fair share of scandals and problems, but mama's got cash. she can raise the money. and bill will be out there supporting her. sometimes america likes a bargain like that but do you want them? she's got 30 years as a politician. it's a lot of history, a lot of mistakes, a lot of gaffes and statements on the record -- >> i mean harris she's triangulated many times like her husband has. they have black belts in triangulation. she eventually is going to have to weigh in, but we talked about this yesterday. sheds really in a tricky position after the state of the union. >> well, you know what? she doesn't have to take a position until she says she's going to run. she really doesn't. she was practicing last year, and you play like your pass, so -- you practice so she decided she better not play because the practice was so dismal.

we were broke when we left the white house blah blah blah. i mean, yeah. she really doesn't have to say much, and she knows that. >> she's got to declare soon. >> use the discipline right? >> right. >> really what kimberly said is so true who's going to challenge her and have that much money? >> but who wants to give all the money to somebody who steps out as you say, on her practice run and is so bad? there's a double thing going on here. >> problem is the polling. she still is the one that beats all the republicans in the lineup thus far, but there's room -- >> the money will follow -- >> eventually she has to declare: she can't run the clock out for much longer. she can only plead the fifth for a couple more months. >> we'll see. you know so we're talking about zip it and that's what she's chosen to do. let's carry on that theme. if you work for the city of boston and you don't like the city bidding to host the 2024 olympics you better zip it. of that's because the city's mayor, martin walsh just signed a deal with the u.s. olympic committee that bans city workers

from bad mouthing the olympics. for his part, the mayor says no city employee will ever be punished if they speak out against the beantown bid. nevertheless, the decree is not sitting well with civil libertarians who are calling it unconstitutional. are they right? >> yes, probably they are. the reason is, you know the first amendment protects you against government action. if you criticize something you can't get arrested for it by the government. but it doesn't protect you against private action. you could get fired by your employer. but what happens when the government is your employer? that's where it starts getting really dicey, and the supreme court hasn't gone so far as to say you're protected, you know when you're an employee for the government, you can say whatever you want. they don't say that. but they look at what the speech is. if the speech is something they consider to be of public concern, then you have first amendment protections, and they apply a balancing test where they say, okay we're balancing your rights to speak about something that is a public concern against the government's right to keep an efficient workplace as an employer.

and they make a determination whether or not it violates that. this being -- this is not something that's going to be enforced. >> well, he's already said he's not going to -- >> the mayor made it clear. >> so is that a breach of contract since he said he would? can the olympics just say no? >> the olympic committee requires every city to tell their employees this, don't criticize the olympics. >> rachel i'm curious though what if your objection is we don't have enough parking spaces? what if there's a legitimate reason why you wouldn't want to have it? >> or could there be a slippery slope, judge? because he put that in you can't say anything bad about the mayor? >> no. what i was saying was, yes, this would probably be unconstitutional -- >> okay. >> -- because the olympics would be a matter of public concern. so the employee would have a right to criticize them, and that's probably why he's saying we're not enforcing it. this is something that would not hold up if he tried to enforce it. >> why is he putting it in there? >> he's required to by the

olympic committee. >> bottom line is if you have a meeting in the ladies' room and you want to talk about, whoa, this is going to be horrendous there's going to be no talking at the mall if the olympics come, you could -- >> i hate to tell you, the worst thing to do is tell people of boston they can't talk about it -- [laughter] i'll show you! >> although if they're city workers and they're complaining about having to do additional work because of the olympics, i'm wondering if they're good employees to begin with. they're probably the ones who are taking those extra bathroom breaks -- [laughter] >> good of you to point that out because that's where it starts becoming hairy. if somebody's complaining about the extra hours they might get fired, and it might get upheld. >> because it maybe does point to a laziness issue. >> well, for the record, we love the olympics. if we didn't, i guess we wouldn't say it? i don't know. president obama is standing by his promise to close guantanamo bay. he mentioned it during his state of the union address tuesday.

many of the remaining prisoners are considered too dangerous to release. we know that. so what should the u.s. do with those people? and target igniting a debate whether overweight people should be a protected class after the retailer moved to sell plus sizes of new clothing online only. keep your big self a secret, i guess? hmm. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> a move by target is sparking debate over civil rights and overweight people. the retail chain recently announcing one of the clothing lines it will carry will only offer plus sizes online. critics say it treats overweight people like second class customers. target i saying, quote: we're offering plus sizes on target.com because target.com gives us an opportunity to try different things. it affords us the opportunity to be flexible in terms of air --

assortment and keep anything the mind the last time we offered plus sizes in a de seen it didn't work. judge, there's been years of discussion about that. where do you see that idea going in the law, and should it happen with something like this? >> i think we're pretty much there. >> yeah. >> i mean michigan is the only state that has protection against overbought people being discriminated against in the workplace, but there are several cities across the country that have ordnances and laws city wide about that. but it really doesn't make that much of a difference because i mean i'm against discriminating against anybody and overweight people very often have insecurity issues and problems, you know they suffer a lot from trying to deal with their weight. the last thing you need to pile on top of that is losing your job because your boss doesn't want to hire an overweight person. that being said we're at a point now where the ada was

expanded effective i think, 2009, the adaaa expanded the definition of disabled people to the point where it pretty much doesn't make a difference. i mean, it's so much easier to be declared disabled now that if you have high blood pressure, something that a lot of overweight people have, you can be considered disabled. if you have, you know, diabetes, which a lot of overweight people have, you can be considered disabled. so you have -- and if an employer considers you impaired in some way because of your weight then you satisfy the requirements of the adaa -- >> so there are current protections under the law. >> they're pretty much there. they're pretty much there. now, the reality is also that with the united states being headed towards the highest number of obese individuals that we've ever had this our history, going to get to the point where everybody that lives in this country -- >> that was kind of my question are you doing anybody a favor by doing this when you have such huge rates of obesity? >> yeah. >> and you're not really

protected. >> what it reminds me of is there's a protection that when judges are picking a jury, they're prohibited from doing it based on a racial -- >> right. >> -- reason okay? well, that has been expanded by courts over and over again to where you couldn't do it based on somebody being african-american, you couldn't do it based on them being a female, based on religion, and then eventually they said white is a protected class. so then what's the protection? [laughter] >> sooner or later, overweight is no longer going to be protected. >> judge, this is whether or not, this isn't whether or not target should hire plus-sized people, it's should they be able or could they be able to sell whatever they want to sell. and so they're stay saying look, we're going to sell it, we're just going to sell it online. i actually think they should be allowed to sell whatever they want. lawsuits of people coming in going i can't find, you know my plus size yoga pants i'm suing. >> yeah. i think they should be able to sell whatever they want online the question i was asked is

should overweight people be considered a protected class. should they be able to sell the clothes online? of course, that's a business decision. but i'm surprised because with so many people being overweight i'm surprised that they don't want to stock their stores with it. >> they said they tried to collaborate, and it didn't work. >> that's a business decision. >> well, that's their right. they don't have an obligation to provide all the sideses. how many times you go to the score, your size is gone. go online, go to another store. >> it's hard to shop online. you buy eight different things, and you have to send it back. again, i don't understand. there's this huge overweight population -- >> i know. you could think -- >> why would they do that? >> if a store does not cater to you, that does not mean you're being discriminated against. >> that's right. >> that means you discriminate against them and move on! >> that's right. that's what i'm saying. keep the government out of it but i think overweight people should be mad. and there's a lot of specialty stores, and there's so many opportunities for free shipping online, it's just the gift that

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more "outnumbered" in just a moment but first, to jenna lee with what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> the president speaking right now in kansas continuing to push his economic agenda announced this tuesday night's state of the union. among the themes, of course, income inequality. we have a great live report on that. and chris wallace will weigh in. also some diplomatic frostiness today with the white house announcing the president will not meet with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu when he comes to visit on the invitation of house speaker john boehner. and we get word the europeans will launch a massive stimulus to try and you a slow-growing economy in the e.u. also today oil trading lower and you have two big american companies with layoff announcements by the thousands, ebay and american express.

we'll get into that as well. >> all right. thanks jenna. everyone knows that being a parent means changing diapers, staying home with the kids and shelling out a lot of money, so when couples choose to have children, do they have a right to complain about it? not according to one blogger who says she's sick of hearing people whine about how hard it is to be a parent. she says they knew when they had kids about all these responsibilities, so they shouldn't complain about a job that they chose to have. andrea, as the only non-mom on this -- >> yeah. >> do i get to complain about other people's kids -- >> i think i quaff. >> i should say nonapartment. -- nonparent. >> some of the people i've sent the prison have called me mother in some way. [laughter] >> this blogger referred to herself in this blog as a nonbreeder. do you think she has a chip on her shoulder? >> what does that mean? >> as a current nonbreeder -- [laughter] yeah, look if you're going to

have the kids, you probably shouldn't be complaining about them all the time, but listen, everyone has the right to vent a little bit. i think it's important. i'm guessing for moms to be able to vent to other moms and i feel your pain kind of thing probably good to get it out. as long as i get to complain about everybody el's kids. >> kimberly, do parents really know what they're getting into? [laughter] i mean, i didn't. now i do at seven, but number one -- >> sometimes you do, but i'm going to object to the nonbreeder. she must not be a pert' ca breeder. >> sitting there by yourself. you're practically breeding. you're like, 90% -- [laughter] that's all i've got to say. sometimes you plan of children sometimes you don't in that exact moment in time. but nevertheless, it's a blessing whenever it happens in your life, and maybe someday she's going to become a mom, and she's going to flip on the blogger's side and write about it. i don't mind hearing about people's kids. i have one. listen, i should take the bow

for you. you are unbelievable with the amount of children you have and everything, and you seem -- >> i'm a breeder. >> you are a soup orer duper breeder, rachel. those are your seven children right there. [laughter] you never complain about them in the green room. >> she has a good attitude. >> and harris, you don't, kimberly -- i don't hear any of you complaining. >> you'll hear me and harris -- >> we'll complain a little bit. >> yeah. there's a lot of planning and logistics -- >> yeah that's the word we use planning. >> why would she complain? her family's a baseball team. >> delegate responsibilities. you know what? my single friends complain to me all the time about stuff. we commiserate together. i thought that was friendship. you share the good times and the -- >> nobody likes to hear a lot of complaining, but i think i've told you before when we talked about this topic on a separate segment, when i stayed home that one time that my wife was sick -- >> oh, i remember that. >> i have never -- [laughter] >> that one time. >> -- wanted to run away as much in my life.

>> why? >> it was like one was going in one direction, the other -- it was nonstop stop. i remember going to her and saying you really want to stay home and do this all the time? >> see that's what drives me crazy when people say i work outside the home. i'm like no, no, no, if you're a mom, you work no matter what the zip code is. you're always working. >> you're never off. >> even right now. >> look, we're complaining! [laughter] >> we're sharing. >> sharing. >> and i want to reserve the right to one day when i do have babies be able to complain. >> free babysitting i volunteer. >> i am going to take you up on that. >> she's very good with kids. >> who, me? >> yeah. >> i do. i have nephews and a niece. all right, how do you get out of a bad date? i'm also an expert on this. [laughter] you could say you have a migraine. what about falking your own death? -- faking your own death? one woman did it. ♪ ♪

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>> ♪ >> well, we've all been there oh, yes, making up an excuse to get out of a bad date. he would not give up. and she tell its the daily

mirror when they could go out again. she decided to poses her sister and said she was in the hospital seriously ill. he insisted on visiting her. i will let you be when they are allowing friendlieds. can i tell you what ward she is in. i am sorry to tell you but we lied last night. desperate time call for desperate measures. have you done that. >> i hid in a closest inside of my apartment. i was afraid he would hear me breathing and. like a tornado lowest point in your house. >> like a horror film. >> you would have had to meet him. >> i thought women wont handle it this way. >> girls are behaving more like

guys. >> i have faked not my own death. >> it is the the beauty of tv on the date and going poorly oh, my gosh, hanity just called and breaking news. who cares, you have had lied. >> i to the bath rom and snuck out through the kitchen and my friend came and picked me up. and he was like where did she go? >> wow. >> you are making us guys look pretty good. >> and wow. that is inventive. >> and what we want, judge a girl to say hey. and guys think girls don't want feelings hurt and they let them down easy and they are pigs for lying. listen, it is not working out.

>> what if they are acting like a complete fool and ineberated. >> you crawl out. >> i am looking for someone. >> and look if you don't like somebody and you can say i am not feeling well. >> kimberly pulled a ham string. >> and a double, double ham string and something went wrong in the spray tan machine. there is a host of them. >> guys all over america are taking notes so they know when they are blown off. >> she used that on me. >> and get as charged, judge. and thank you, judge. >> we are staying here for outnumbered over time.

and catch more. and click the ot tab. we'll be back tomorrow at noon same time, same place. "happening now" now with jenna and john starts now. >> we begin with a fox news alert. the next campaign for the white house and taking center stage. republicans are embracing their own ideas for are embracing a strong and middle-class. >> we have worked responsibly to cut the population of gitmo in half. >> president obama stepping up his quest to close gitmo but 122 dangerous inmates still remain. >> i will not relent in my determination to shut it down. >> how should the united states