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brady. bill: so many wicked things in the world. it is refreshing i think just to get a break . martha: have a great one everybody. "happening now" starts right now. jenna: we'll pick up where we left off there. uncertainty and chaos taking root across the middle east with the death of saudi arabia's king abdullah powerful american ally and resignation of yemen's government of the, another big story. welcome to "happening now." hope you're off to a great friday so far. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. president, prime and the cabinet all stepping down after armed shiite rebels took over the capital city, fighters that may have ties to iran. both saudi arabia and yemen have been huge u.s. allies for years in the fight against terror an al qaeda. how do these developments affect american security interests. john huddy joins us live from the middle east bureau in
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jerusalem. john? >> reporter: jon, the power for shiite rebels at this point is coming from the barrel of a gun and that does not bode well for the u.s. and its allies. because last night's yemen's president hadid his prime minister and cabinet resigned under pressure from the group huthis. they shelled the president's residence. they took government officials hostage. now yemen's president, as we know was allied with the u.s. and the fight against terror groups like al qaeda in the a arabian peninsula that operates out of yemen and also took responsibility for the attacks in paris. while the huge sympathies oppose -- huthis and opposed and fought with al qaeda in yemen they are said to be supported by iran so that again is a major concern for the united states and saudi arabia's well and saudi arabia's king abdullah,
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passed away had been a strong ally of the u.s. today his successor, king salman said, that saudi arabia will not change course and continue with its same policies including its alliance with the united states. but again, in yemen there is concern that iran will try to exert greater influence and that terror groups, like isis, like al qaeda will try to gain more power by using chaos and havoc to influence the already volatile and instability in that country. jon? jon: john huddy joining us from jerusalem. thank you. jenna: the other big story, the new king of saudi arabia pledging to stay the course after the death of his brother king abdullah. king salman joining for solidarity among arab nations. we're joined by robert jordan former u.s. ambassador to saudi arabia who took the post after 9/11 and worked with the king to promote a stronger
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relationship between the two countries. ambassador, great to have you on the program. initially what is your reaction to the death of king abdullah and the relationship with saudi arabia? >> jenna this is of an era and king abdullah he sat a path toward reform that has a long way to go but i have a lot of confidence salman will continue on that path and he also -- [inaudible]. in ways that think will even make a stronger ally for us. >> it is no secret thaw took the helm of the ambassadorship at a really difficult time, the month after 9/11 and no secret at all that 15 of the 19 hijackers were from saudi arabia and i'm curious about your relationship and how you see your relationship our relationship with saudi arabia from that point on. and how you feel the country will continue to help nervous
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our stated public goals of the war on terror? what do you think the new leadership means for that? >> first of all i think we had a really hard time after 9/11 accepting 15 of the 19 hijackers could have been saudi a arabians. we had to con begins them with some pretty direct evidence. once they saw that, they realized they had a problem in their midst but it took some bombings in the housing compound in riyadh in 2003 to get their full attention and by 2007, they had actually gotten rid pretty much of al qaeda throughout the kingdom. what we're seeing as a result of that, much of it, migrated to yemen. but i think king salman is a very savvy individual. he was governor of riyadh province for over four years. he is a great administrator. he is at his desk at 8:00 in the morning. he is very much known as a
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straight-shooter, very much like king abdullah. jenna: there are questions about saudis supporting terror groups, i make this disclaimer, a difference between the saudi government and big oil if you will inside of saudi arabia, supporting terror groups like isis because of the threat of iran and wanting to make sure that the game, the playing board is being played the right way in favor of the saudis. i'm just curious on that of how good of an ally you really think they are when it comes to american interests in the middle east? >> i think we're pretty well aligned with the saudis. the saudis believe isis treats them as a mortal enemy. isis stated their main objective is to take over the cities of mecca and medina in saudi arabia. and become the real custodians of islam. so i think -- saudi arabia. very much aligned with us in that regard. jenna: what about what is going
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on in yemen today and the upheaval there just to south of saudi arabia's border? what do you think that means for saudi arabia and also what does it mean for us as well and our interests? >> there have been border skirmishes there for years and saudis have heavily involved in. they're looking building a wall across that border inaddition to the one across the iraqi border to stablize and solidify it. they have been fighting proxy wars with the tribes in and out of the huthi areas in yemen for a number of years and it is only getting worse at this point. jenna: ambassador jordan, great to have you. we'll have you back on the program hopefully next week to talk about the quote unquote great wall the saudis are building along their borders. the plan in place for many years, look like they're ramming that up in light of all upheaval in the region. ambassador, nice to have you. thank you for your time today. >> my pleasure. jon: right now new details about
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the progress of historic talks between the u.s. and cuba. we are awaiting comments from the assistant secretary of state and u.s. and leaders try to restore diplomatic relations after more than three decades. doug mckelway is live in washington keeping an eye on that. >> reporter: that's right, jon. this press conference should get underway momentarily. if it is similar to statements previously the two parties things will be moving very slowly. each also stated the existence of quote profound differences that lie in the way of full diplomatic relations. chief among them cuba is deeply troubled that the u.s. put it on the u.s. list of state sponsors terrorism. cuba's chief negotiator said yesterday, quote, would be difficult to say there is resumption of diplomatic relations while our country unjustly is included on u.s.'s list of state sponsors terrorism. president obama can take cuba off the list but must get
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congress's okay. many in congress are already skeptical of reset. on wednesday in fact, assistant secretary of state tony blanken was scolded by senator marco rubio, rubio reminding blanken during his confirmation hearing late last year he promised any cuba reset would be done in quote, full consultation with congress. in fact it was not. >> senator i regret that i did not live up to the standard i set during that hearing. report or the in a -- >> reporter: in a scene reminiscents of cold war days just as talks were getting underway this week in ha van a sophisticated russian surveillance ship docked in havana harbor. that as russian's defense minister that russia is interested in setting up new bases in cuba, and venezuela and nicaragua. jon? jon: doug mckelway in washington. thank you. don't miss a special "fox news reporting." bret baier takes us inside of the controversy as many wonder
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are we losing the last battle battle of the cold war? "fox news reporting" airs tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. on the fox news channel. jenna: charges that he is facing now that a grand jury has weighed. fireworks over the senate over the keystone pipeline. why we may see a whole lot more of this on capitol hill. i have great credit. how do you know? duh. try credit karma. it's free and you can see what your score is right now . i just got my free credit score! credit karma. really free.
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jenna: latest on a few crime stories. refusing to tell where the son is located. her son pictured here, has been missing for a month. she doesn't want to talk to anyone about it. veteran philadelphia homicide detective indicted by a grand jury facing charges for hiding his girlfriend and stashing her car while officers looked for her in connection with a search for killing of her
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husband. pooled from a canal north of state road 84 in florida authorities say dredgers found the car and no bodies were found inside. jon: tempers flare between republicans and democrats during the latest debate over the keystone pipeline. democrats accuse new majority leader of mitch mcconnell of political wrangling and obstruction. if tensions are already this high right out of the gate what can we expect down the road. we have chief congressional correspondent for the "washington examiner" susan fer very much yo. those who don't follow the senate and intricacies, explain what happened. they were voting on keystone pipeline late into the night and democrats are not happy with the way mitch mcconnell is running things. why? >> well basically democrats feel they should be allowed to offer as maniments as they would like to try to change the nature of the bill which would
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authorize the construction of the keystone pipeline project. jon: that is kind of ironic given the fact in the last congress under harry reid republicans were virtually never allowed to offer amendments on anything. >> that's right. remember both parties know that the public kind of, their eyes glaze over with all the stuff about amendments and procedure and house in the senate. i think what democrats are trying to do, we're trying to do last night is expand this to a message that they thought would resonate with voters. so what they did, they revived the whole argument that republicans are working in league with the koch brothers who are the billionaire businessmen who are proponents of keystone pipeline. that way they're trying to kind of make the whole process seem like republicans trying to appease the koch brothers. they said they cut off the amendment process so various republicans could skip out of town and rubble bows with the koch brothers at a conference they're response or --
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sponsoring in in california. that is the argument they're making. in reality, fighting over amendments is nothing new. the party in the minority are arguing they're not getting enough florida time. that does not change. this is messaging war they try to make the stuff resonate with voters. take the argument of floor procedure to expand into larger issue to try to make republicans like they're not looking out for the american people. jon: republicans are pointing to the fact they say the senate voted on moore amendments in less than a month on 2015 then it did in all of 2014 under democratic control. do they have that right? and is that a point worth making? >> it's a point, a correct point. republicans are making that point. so democrats are countering today, we only got to vote on a fraction of the amendments we requested and, mitch mcconnell, the new majority leader promise ad wide open process returning to regular lard order that the previous majority leader harry reid, a democrat, did not follow. i contend that all of this will
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be lost on the public who barely pay attention to this stuff on a higher level. so i think that this is arguments and amendments we see this at beginning of segment. this is taste of what is to come in the new congress because this is messaging war about 2016. republicans have a firm control of both chambers about of congress right now. jon: yeah. >> president is in the white house. it will be a messaging battle because two parties are so far apart what they want to get done it will be a lot of gridlock. what else can you do but try to argue which side is making better point? jon: let's take a look at those two republican leaders of those two bodies, mitch mcconnell and john boehner. they are promising tohe president on a number of issues. they sat down with "60 minutes." it is going to run this sunday. we have a preview. watch. >> let me ask you, dead or alive, raise taxes on the wealthy? >> why would i want to raise taxes on people? there is no free lunch and, the
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president wants to raise taxes because he wants to increase washington spending. >> i will take that as a dead? >> dead, real dead. >> make community college free of charge? dead or alive? >> we added more debt during the obama years than all the presidents from george washington down to george bush. >> i will put that xown as dead as well. jon: so so much of what the president talked about in his state of the union, these republican leaders are vowing to oppose. are we getting anything done in the next two years susan? >> both sides want to do some kind of tax reform. republicans want to lower corporate tax rates and perhaps close some loopholes the president wants to close. the problem the president wants to do different things with tax cuts. he wants to pay for infrastructure. he wants to add more entitlement programs and $60 billion community college plan. republicans say the argument here if we lower the corporate tax rate it create as better economic environment.
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it expands job opportunities. what you're seeing here jon two sides want to accomplish one thing, by very different means. and so you heard the speaker of the house talk about maybe some areas of compromise. for example expanding childhood tax credit. both sides want to do something by different means. republicans want to broaden tax base. president wants to do it by raising taxes on higher income earners. there is not a lot of optimism on capitol hill because of differences they want to accomplish that goal. jon: one of those two sides will have to blink right? who will blink first? >> on tax reform probably neither side. what you will see happening with this issue, both sides will push their argument. republicans may pass legislation. president is likely to veto it. it will die and nothing will happen. jon: what about things like the minimum wage? the president talks a lot about raising minimum wage. any appetite for that? >> no, in the past republicans
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gone for minimum wage increases. they have stuck with their argument this time around. if it is a job killer in economy not quite up to speed yet. i don't think you will see a federal minimum wage increase. the stuff is argued at state level. states are agreeing to raise minimum wages. it is on referendums people voted on. i think republicans will leave it to states and not push it on federal level. i don't see that happening. jon: as chief congressional correspondent you are going to have a fascinating next two years, aren't you susan. >> absolutely. jon: susan fereccio from the washington examiner. >> thank you. jenna: police say a carjacker order ad victim into the trunk of her car at gunpoint and forced her to withdraw money. fortunately we have good news how this all ended. yemen's government collapsing amid worries the country could end up in civil war. we'll talk about what the united states should do. oh hey, neill, how are you?
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jon: police releasing new surveillance video from a violent abduction and carjacking. arlington, texas police say a gunman robbed a woman outside of her bank and drives the victim to several atms, ordering here to withdraw money. she was able to escape while the car was stopped at one location. she ran to nearby store for help. the suspect described as black male early 20s about 5'6", seen wearing a gray jacket, winter hat and jeans. if you recognize him, call crimestoppers, 817-469-tips. >> new information on the potential for an all-out civil war in yemen. [explosion] jenna: explosions at yemen's presidential palace as rebels
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backed by iran forced resignation of the president and cabinet. those same rebels face a fight with al qaeda-backed sunnis. what does it all mean for the u.s. in the war on terror? we have the director of counterterrorism and intelligence at the washington institute for near east policy. great to have you back on the program. "the new york times" puts it this way. resignation of the president prime minister and cabinet took american officials by surprise and hiding the risk that yemen would become even more after breeding ground for al qaeda. how precarious of a time is this? >> very, jenna. pleasure to be back on the show. yemen is split between areas of country controlled by shia rebels tied to iran and other parts of the country, that are dominated by extremists of sunni persuasion which includes al qaeda in the arabian peninsula which just reasserted itself most recently in the paris attacks. the former government in yemen was a good counterterrorism partner for us. we were able to do things there.
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u.s. officials are saying type of military activities may have to change but our energy towards the ct problem there, won't change at all. i don't know what that means. this is a big problem for us. jon: what is the worst case scenario in. >> the worst-case scenario the country becomes safe haven for both sides of extremists of the country has a history of being split between north and south yemen this the past. shia in control of north through the capitol and sunnis in other parts of the country radical sunnis. we have sunni jihad by space between al qaeda and isis. we also have a problem in terms of iran flexing its muscles throughout the region. not only supporting huthi shia rebels in yemen and in bahrain this year. we've seen over the past few years what they have done in syria and of course now more recently in iraq as isis taken over territory there and iran has come in helping to fund and
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build shia militias on the ground to back up shia led government in iraq. jenna: this is very much becoming not only in yemen but look at broader region even more after proxy war between the saudis and iranians? >> what is happening in the region is multiple things at once. there is a proxy war between states. there is also a sectarian battle between sunnis and shia and states that represent those populations, the gulf sunni states in particular and iran, the major shia state on the other side. this has ramifications across the board across the region. both in terms of the sectarian nature which really drives people and is vicious radicalizing problem. and in terms of this more state to state, vying for influence throughout the region and yemen is just the latest place where this is happening. >> if you look both extremes inside of yemen, whether it is huthis or sunnis, al qaeda branch, if you will, both of those groups are not pro-america, right? matthew, when you look at those
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two side drawing the lines, as far this having any sort of ally in the government, as was described the latest president do we have any hope of that? >> it is unclear what kind of hope we can have because we're not looking for allies within the shia huthi rebels or within the al qaeda elements in yemen. jenna: of course. >> we had them in the government. it is not at all clear if that government the elements that supported it will be able to remain in power. the president has stepped out. there are explosions at the palace. this has huge ramifications for saudi arabia just to the north which is going through its own issues right now in terms of the death of the king and it's succession with a 91-year-old succeeded by a 79-year-old and saudis are very concerned about the huthis who are right along their border now controlling all the way down to the capital. jenna: if we are indeed allies with saudi arabia and big picture we don't want iran gaining more power in the middle east, what should we do
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right now? what should be our role in yemen if any? >> this is very difficult region. we have issues in terms of trying to contain and roll back iran's support for terrorism and mill tannery throughout the region. we also have a distinct interest in constraining operating environment for groups like al qaeda in the a arabian peninsula in yemen and isis more broadly. complicated look at iraq by defacto, we and iran appear to be on same side and some things we and iran is not on the same side. putting things in pretty little boxes in the middle east certainly doesn't work. jenna: certainly doesn't. matthew, good discussion and hopefully good solutions to come out of those discussions. thank you for the time. appreciate it as always. >> always. jon: as matthew just mentioned the world's biggest oil producer saudi arabia, now has a new leader. how his decisions might impact the worldwide price of oil. plus president obama turns to some stars of youtube for his
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and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. jon: right now a quick look what is still to come this hour of "happening now." the suspects charged with kidnapping and murdering tennessee nursing student holly bobo are sitting in jail. now after nearly a year their attorneys want to see the analysis of hundreds of pieces
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of evidence against their client. plus a dramatic rescue on the frigid ocean off scotland. the coast guard comes to the aid of fisherman as their boat sinks to the bottom. latest revelations on those underweight, underinflated footballs used in the new england patriots playoff win. reaction to quarterback tom brady's claim that he didn't notice anything wrong. jenna: the death of saudi arabia's king abdullah leaving worldwide markets guessing about a possible shift in the country's oil policy but we're hearing king abdullah's successor vows to maintain the same approach. what does it mean for the price of oil? phil flynn, price futures group senior market analyst and fox business contributor. what is briefly the impact of the saudi king's death? why didn't we see markets move? >> we see because of uncertainty, because when it was first announced late yesterday the markets were very worried there would be a change in policy because what has been
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happening in global oil markets has been in part saudi arabia oil policy. alley naimi who was the oil minister of saudi arabia, basically declared a price war on the united states and drove down the cost of oil. and king abdullah, backed that oil min sister in his move. in fact one of the last things he said to his subjects from his sick bed, when he told the people of saudi arabia, you know, that they were going to withstand these lower prices. that he had commitment to that and saudi arabia would come out better and more secure in the future. so i thought it was kind of interesting that when there was a change of power, it created that fear. now after these assurances, the markets actually calmed down. we saw oil prices rally after word of the death became confirmed. rises have settled down a little bit. but i still think the marketse on edge here. they really don't know if the new contending, king saud, will
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have power king abdullah had. on top of that you have increased geopolitical risk in the region with yemen and all other issues going on in the middle east and markets are really unsure whether he is going to be able to handle it and keep a lid on dissent as well as king abdullah had. jenna: there are so many facts going on. we underscored that on our show today. one of the things we talked about saudis keeping price of oil where it is, at least production where it is, that certainly impacts their enemy iran but also impacts the shale production here in the united states. what is your sense of it? with the new change of leadership, do you think there is opportunity where there is a, a change of policy despite the stated, stated goal that there won't be? >> i think there is. i mean, believe it or not even the biggest critics of this policy have kind of joined on board with it because it has had success. we've seen a dramatic historic
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drop in u.s. oil rig counts. we've seen a dramatic cutback in capital expenditures in the u.s. energy industry. so even folks against the policy are now for the policy. but overthe long run it is going to be more difficult. we know that king abdullah spent a lot of money to keep people happy in saudi arabia. he really worked to keep his subjects very happy. spent a lot of money, a lot of that oil money to keep them going. now with the oil money drying up is the new king going to be able to do the same type of expenditures to keep people happy? and the new king, of course has not been tested with some of the same geopolitical risk situations that the king had. so the market will be watching very carefully how he reacts to some of these events that are continuing to unfold even today. jenna: it is so interesting. impacts all of us, gas prices here at home and it is also important to note that
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saudi arabia didn't go through the same upheaval in the arab spring in part because of subsidies the government was giving to the people to keep peace, if you will in that country. so it is fascinating. thank you so much for the time. we appreciate it as always. >> thanks jenna. jon: talk a little domestic politics now. president obama has long tried to get out his message through none traditional channels like local media. even comedians and now a trio of youtube stars. some of the reporters that cover the white house today want to know why aren't they getting that one-on-one? talk about with judy miller, pulitzer-prize-winning investigative reporter and all the thor and fox news contributor and lynn sweet, "chicago sun-times." weltalked about this before. this president particularly likes to dodge the white house press corps whose job to cover him day in, day out, the most recent example this hour-long
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interview he gave to a bunch of people from youtube who didn't seem to know much about the operation of the white house. lynn, what do you think about it? >> i think president is entitled to give interviews who he wants. the issue as we talked about ignore white house reporters. i think the more interesting thing is that these white house, the youtube interviewers seemed like they didn't put much preparation into what they were doing, even to ask a friendly question that just might have plowed some new ground. here it is, these are people that seemed to be very web and imbalanced. wasn't asked in friendly way, what apps do you have? they went over ground which every question, there was an answer to already known. jon: yeah. i don't know. maybe i'm a little old-fashioned but some of the questioning of the president of the united states, most powerful man in the world made my skin crawl judy. >> well we're all old-fashioned
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in that respect because these weren't reporters. glows sell is a -- glows cell is a comedienne she is very popular comedienne. he didn't want to talk to ed henry and ask questions he wants glozell to tell him how wonderful he is and gush and give presents for his wife and his kid. that is exactly what he wants. it is great politics. it plays well with a new young generation of voters who may not be watching news and the president excels at this kind of outreach and i think republicans should take a look at it. jon: you think republicans should do this kind of thing? >> actually judy is on to something there. if you want new audiences talk to people on youtube. the fact that you're reaching out to new people to interview you, that is just how life is. we've known for years that political figures go on entertainment shows but i think,
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judy, you're on to something. just as speaker boehner and leader mcconnell spoke to "60 minutes" and scott pelley let them go on and do something. i guess my wish, why you don't have to fawn if you have an interview. i think that is where the inexperience of these youtube interviewers, whether or not you're a comedienne, you can still do an interview, discussion and fawning, i don't think you have to do it. have the interview. >> right. jon: judy, this president has said he acknowledges that part of the role of president involves showmanship and he has said, you know, he doesn't do the showmanship part of it very well. but this, this interview with glozell green the woman who sat in a bathtub full of from the loops i think it was, and ate them, howard kurtz says the network the interview was beneath the dignity of the office. think about vladmir putin, he puts himself out there shirtless
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and wrest link tigers and all that kind of thing. what does this kind of thing do to enhance the stature of a man who is more powerful than vladmir putin? >> it doesn't do anything to enhance your stature. but he doesn't care about that now. he has run two campaigns. he won them. he doesn't have anymore. he is going to the is the stage for 2016 reach out to new voters. rick grenell who is writing for fox news, pointed out that the line now is, is not is this kind of guy you would like to have a beer with or woman but is this the person who does a really funny youtube video or a good selfie? the world is changing and president obama is very attuned to that new world. i may not like it as a quote serious journalist is interested in foreign policy, but you know, a lot of people are going to watch the glozell interview with him, many more that would watch
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traditional media. i don't like it but happens to be the way the world is going. jon: all right. >> if i could say, i have a slightly different thing. i just think he should also do the more traditional interviews. i think that is the issue. not that he is receiving out. >> right. jon: he seems to be hiding from the press corps that knows him best put it that way. >> yes, he is. he is doing that very effectively. jon: judy miller, lynn sweet thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: we may be closer to learning more about the murder of 20-year-old holly bobo. the tennessee nursing student disappeared near her home back in 2011, made big news of course. investigators completing analysis of hundreds of pieces of evidence in this case. what's next though? what is the controversy? our legal panel will take that up. more denials from the new england patriots. players claiming they didn't know they used underinflated footballs in the afc championship victory. a live report on the growing scandal.
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jon: let's take a quick peek what is coming up on "outnumbered" at top of the hour. >> we're awaiting developments overseas with massive implication for u.s. and its war on terror. >> plus busted with prostitutes. outrageous parties and more bad behavior. big problems going back at least two decades for key got agency with little being done to fix it all. >> and big shocker on center court. a young tennis sensation asked to do something that a male athlete would never do. so wait until you see this. >> all that plus our #oneluckyguy. "outnumbered" at top of the hour. back to a man we know and love, jon scott. jon: thank you harris. see you at the top of the hour. the prosecution is set to reveal new details in the holly bobo case. you might remember it, we talked about it for years. she was 20-year-old nursing student kidnapped in april of 2011. years later among the suspects
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zachary adams indicted in 2014. then jason autry indict ad month later. both pleaded not guilty to bobo's murder. last september two men find human remains in the woods. later that month, john dylan adams was charged with tammering with evidence. he was later indicted on two counts of rape in connection with the case. just yesterday analysis of 460 pieces of evidence it was announced has been completed. as defense attorneys demand to see any proof that their clients were involved in bobo's murder. joining us now, eric guster criminal defense attorney and tom kenniff former prosecutor. welcome to both of you. this is such a strange case. you got the guys sitting in jail. they have been there in some cases nearly a year. but the attorneys have not been shown any evidence against them. is that, first of all, does it pass constitutional muster, eric? >> it absolutely does not.
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it is interesting in different jurisdictions you have rules of evidence and you have local rules. for example, in birmingham, alabama, this would not pass constitutional muster. this case would be thrown out long before it got to because if the prosecution does not give evidence to a person to show why they have been charged to hold them in jail like these guys are being held, then the judge would dismiss at that case. jon: tom, do you see it differently? >> unfortunately i see it differently. what i would say i agree with eric in the sense, no, this should not pass constitutional muster but reality is, it often does. at federal level and many, many states and local jurisdictions across the country, the burden on the prosecution to disclose their case doesn't occur until the eve of trial and some circumstances during the trial itself. these guys were indicted by grand jury. the grand jury process itself a secret proceeding run by the prosecution. jon: they get to see the
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evidence. >> eventually they see the evidence. jon: grand jury. >> grand jurors do. transcripts after grand jury are held under seal. defense usually doesn't get them until day of trial very often in some jurisdiction. >> in most federal courts you have only 90 days to go to trial. that evidence is often given as far as jurisdictions where i practice criminal defense is given early on. you know what evidence to fight for a trial. these people are facing life without parole. this is long time where they need to know what has been charged. jon: sure look at her family. this was by all accounts, a bright dedicated, loving young woman who is gone now. for a while they weren't even sure she was dead until recently they found her skull in the woods and it became a murder case absolutely. but her family wants to be sure that everything is done right in this case. if you have to take your time to do it right isn't it worth, you know, the expense?
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>> well not necessarily if you're the person who is languishing in prison. that is what the defense attorney is saying in this case. look, there is no doubt there is a awful tragedy here and the investigation of this case has been long and tortuous. i think there was tremendous pressure on local prosecutors once the dna did occur, they did find the body, remains of the body to go out an make an arrest to get an indictment. if they got, if they got the right guys, that's great. if you have the wrong guys and you're representing them and maintaining their innocence it's a different situation. >> that is a huge tragedy when someone is in prison, in jail for something they didn't do. i've seen cases where a person has been in jail two three four years. then all of sudden the case is dismissed. jon: all right. we'll keep an eye on this one. biggest case in the history of the tennessee bureau of investigation. thank you both. jenna? jenna: the scare of a lifetime for five men involved had this boat rescue caught on camera. more of this video coming up. in his own words what new
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jenna: patriots quarterback tom brady addressing allegations his team used underinflated footballs during the afc championship. brady is inma takenning he has no knowledge of any wrongdoing what has become known as "deflate-gate." i mean here we are "deflate-gate," "deflate-gate," chief correspondent jonathan hunt on the story. >> reporter: fascinating news conference. tom brady spent 30 minutes fielding every conceivable question how the footballs he chose to play with somehow became deflated below the league minimum of 12.5-pound per square inch. he was generally calm and measured and occasionally bemused but insisted he had no idea how it could have happened. >> i have no knowledge of
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anything. i have no knowledge of any wrongdoing of any -- >> nobody did anything wrong? >> very comfortable saying that. i'm very comfortable saying that. as far as i know. i don't know everything. >> the nfl says it is investigating what happened yet brady dropped something of a bombshell when he said he so obviously a central figure in the controversy, had not yet even been interviewed by any nfl officials. >> no, but you know, they may, they may. i think that's their i think that's obviously their choice. >> reporter: that is raising questions once again about the leadership of nfl commissioner roger goodell after a scandal-tainted season and many of those questions center on his close relationship with the owner of the patriots, robert kraft. goodell spent the evening before the afc championship at a party at kraft's home. as you can see in this photo tweeted from patriots official account. obviously the commissioner spends a lot of time one-on-one with each of the 32 nfl owners
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but it is worth noting that the patriots owner was one of the first to offer unqualified support for goodell when he faced withering criticism of his handling of the ray rice domestic violence incident last year. and robert kraft has remain ad steadfast supporter. so just one more layer of intrigue in this very bizarre story. jenna: you know, it is always important to book relevant guests when doing a segment like this jonathan. we have a special guest during the 1:00 p.m. hour "happening now." my father will join us. >> reporter: how did you get that one? jenna: my dad played in a few super bowls as a quarterback. he will weigh in. our viewers are giving us questions to ask my dad. it will be interesting to hear what he will have to say. jon: my favorite brady quote, i have no knowledge of anything. that's what he said. >> that is my line. jon: some brand new stories we're working to bring you in the next hour of "happening now," besides jenna's dad. florida support marco rubio
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