i'm arthel neville. time now for "sunday housecall." >> and i'm eric shawn. joining us dr. marc siegel, from nyu medical center. he's also author of unlocking the secret code of sickness and health. >> also dr. david samadi at lennox hill hospital and chief of robotic surgery. >> great to see you. >> you know, turning up the volume on the tv screen or cranking up those head phones it all could lead to the troubling epidemic of hearing loss. dr. siegel sat down with a fellow physician to describe just how much damage we could be doing to our ears. >> now you can imagine a loud

noise coming in to the inner ear. that's like a tsunami coming in there. and that causes those hair cells to die. if there's no hair cells the nerve is no longer being stimulated and you can't hear. >> so how big a problem is this and how widespread? dr. siegel, when you walk down the street you can hear the music from someone else's head phones it's so loud. >> that's a huge part of the problem. we're talking 40 million people are affected now. but with baby boomers, age-related hearing loss and hearing loss from those head phones, and from medications that people have taken for diseases we're looking at i much, much bigger problem going forward. i want to explain why that is. he talked about the hair cells in the inner ear. here's what this is about. there's three parts to the ear. outer, middle and inner. the eardrum is right there. you guys can see. you know about the eardrum because you've been hearing about it since you were little. the inner ear is that snail thing that you can see in the picture, in the demonstration. way on the inside of the ear and

it has inside of it tiny, tiny hairs which vibrate and they transmit to the brain hearing sounds. they die with that tsunami he's coming in talking about. they die from aging. they die from medication. and humans cannot regenerate them. animals can. humans can't. so what do we do? we use hearing aids a $10 billion industry. nobody's ever happy with the way their hearing aids work. nobody. they don't like how they work, they don't like the stigma, they don't like that they can't separate the crowd noise. we have cochlear implants where we replace that snail that's in the inner ear. that no one's totally satisfied with. now along is coming a new treatment a genetic therapy where they take a harmless virus, novartis is working on this, and put a gene on it, and they inject it right into the inner ear and regrow the hair cells. it's worked in animals. it looks like it's going to work in humans. to answer your question, five years, one of the final point i want to make, the problem with that treatment is it washes out of your ear.

you can't keep it for long. and critics say fine it will work for two weeks but then what? another company autonomy, has come up with a gel that will allow that treatment to stay in the ear. simple injection. >> you can get that right now? >> no. no. it's five years away. five years before you're going to be able to go to your doctor and get it instead of a hearing aid. >> if it's that far away dr. samadi and currently it's irreversible, is that a workaround, a way to try to prevent it? >> that's a very good point. i think one of the main reasons for hearing loss is this noise induced hearing loss. so you want to make sure that you keep the noise level below the 85 decibels. that's the number that you want to remember. 85 decibels -- >> you can tell us how loud that is. >> if you can hear your music in the elevator we have a huge problem. that's just too loud. i think we're getting older so the wear and tear on those hairs that we have, hair cells are important. and i also want to talk about something called meniere's

disease. meniere's someone they always ask about this on facebook, what is meniere's disease. hearing loss is part of the syndrome but they would have also vertigo, they would have sometimes nausea or vomiting, visual loss that goes along with it. usually you see meniere's within 40 to 50-year-olds but can you see it in children. and it's really devastating. it's fluid that marc just showed in the inner ear and the imbalance of that. sometimes taking too much salt, maybe genetic, maybe some imbalance of the fluid for whatever reason can cause that. so there are some treatments. i think wearing ear plugs if you're in a night club. making sure that you put an ear plug. see your doctor. you should check your hearing aid every year and make sure that you're in the right plan, and stay away from the noise. that's really like the way to go. because some of this damage to the -- these cells are permanent. now the genetic testing that is being done, i think we have a long way to go and i'm not sure how it's going to pan out. but it's a good attempt.

>> what should we do? if you go some place and it's too loud, just walk out? >> i bring ear phones. i bring ear plugs. >> the first thing is for people to be conscious of it. i want to make one comment about david's point about meniere's disease. in that case, that treatment i talked about with that gel might be available in one year. one to two years where they can take a steroid and inject it in there and the gel will keep it in there. might help meniere's disease. might help recurrent infections. we got a lot of things happening. >> the reason why this may work is because the gel that they're putting in, it's very thick. because if you put something in the middle ear in order to stay there, you have to not swallow for about 30 minutes and it has to really keep it it there in order for this steroid to work. so that is what this company otonomy is working on. we're living longer. you need your hearing for many more years. this is obviously a huge social problem because when you can't hear everybody else gets affected. they get irritated. it affects the whole family.

so these are good treatments that are coming up, but we still have a way to go. stay away from the noise. that's the bottom line which is exactly what you're doing. check your hearing at least once a year with your doctor. >> quickly, they're telling us to wrap. you see the commercials for the vitamins and things over the counter for tinnitus and stuff does that work? >> no, no. none of them works. in addition to what david was saying staying with the loud point, be prepared if you're a baby boomer this may happen to you. i mean we can't prevent that hearing loss just from living longer. >> let me just also say that some of the surgeries work well and i never really promote anybody but my own brother is a surgeon and does a lot of these cochlear implants for kids and they have like really good results when everything else fails, surgery is a great option for some of these children. >> i hear he's a big supporter of your campaign? >> yes, i'm working on it. >> what campaign is that? >> they should go to facebook, david samadi facebook. we're going to announce a run for president. >> oh, boy. here we go. >> the whole samadi family taken

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these kinds of decisions are decisions that should be made by parents, because ultimately when we're talking about vaccinations we're typically talking about vaccinations that are given to children. but the science on this is our public health professionals would be happy to tell you the science on this is really clear. >> that was white house press secretary josh earnest earlier this week weighing in on the ongoing debate over the measles vaccine amid glowing concerns about the increasing number of

americans opting to forego the measles shot. dr. samadi, a couple of questions off the top. should you pass on getting the measles shot? what if you had the measles shot some 40 years ago, do you need to get it again? >> these are very good questions. and we can certainly check your antibodies to see if you're immune for measles or not. so that's the easy part. and if you are not we can always give you a booster or if you've ever had the disease you're probably covered for this. this whole concept of why we have this uprise of measles after 16 years after completely eradicating the disease from the u.s. is a huge problem. and i think that, you know, they're not making any kind of sense at this point. because they're saying about the parents if they don't want to give the shots they're free to do it. but it's affecting the entire society. it's affecting everybody else. now, why are people not getting the measles? either they just don't want to get the vaccine because they're afraid of the side effects. or the vaccine doesn't work. or we have a whole flow of

people that are unvaccinated. we know that this disease is 90% contagious. it's one of the most contagious virus we have. the vaccine works also 90% plus, 95%. and so, we -- this is completely foolish. and if you look at the pockets of people that are coming with measles, it's only few states either from religious reasons or maybe they've seen the side effects that cause autism which we already have put this to rest already and it's enough of debate, and i'm sure a lot of people may not like it. but this is a safe vaccine. now 1 in 500,000 you may have a side effect. you may have a bad side effect. if you don't get this, one out of 1,000 are going to get encephalitis and this kind of thing. the other important part you is may have absolutely no symptoms. meaning that you may have -- you may be contagious before you start having the symptoms. like a day before. we talk about the rash, this rash may show up way down at the time when you're contagious,

you're already contaminated so many other kids. so is it fair for me to say i'm not going to get this vaccine and put your kids in danger? that's what the government, that's what the cdc needs to do and they need to make a call. >> it's a huge issue especially dealing with some parents who don't want to vaccinate their children. dr. siegel wrote about this in "the wall street journal" this past week writing quote, 2014 saw the worst u.s. meetles outbreak in two decades. what else happened last year? more than 13,000 parents nationwide claimed on forms that vaccinating their children from preventable diseases like measles violated their personal beliefs. you've got 20% in some schools not vaccinated. a california man whose son had leukemia demanding the school board not allow unvaccinated children into the school. is this a crisis from parents refusing to vaccinate their children? >> absolutely. and 145,000 kids died around the world last year of measles. 145,000. this is not a disease that's been eradicated around the

world. and people travel here from countries that have measles. and if you're not vaccinated you're at risk. you know who are reallyat risk? immunocompromised kids. our precious kids. kids under the age of 1 year old that can't be vaccinated yet are going to start getting measles. some of the complications, pneumonia, ear infections, brain swelling, death in one out of 1,000 to two out of 1,000. we can't risk that. we eradicated this disease in the united states in 2000. it's very simple. be afraid of measles. measles is very, very risky. don't be afraid of the vaccine. it's a safe, safe vaccine. >> let's say you have your child in school like 20% of the kids in the class aren't vaccinated. should you send your child to school -- >> well, he should be able to send his kid to any school he wants. the question is, should the ones that are not vaccinated to come and contaminate his kids. and that's the big debate -- >> let me ask you marc a medical question because i think this is

also big deal. people are saying some of the ones that got measles, they had the vaccine. so what's the answer to that? >> and why should i get this? >> that's a great question, david and that makes the answer even more to the point. 10% of the time we can't even be sure that the vaccine is going to give you a permanent immunity. so even if you had the vaccine, there's a small chance your kid is going to be at risk if someone unvaccinated is paraded into the school. >> so this say numbers game. >> immunocompromised can't get the vaccine. we can't give it to somebody with hiv. >> so it's not 100% guarantee just because you got the vaccine but it works in 95% of the time. >> exactly. >> is there anything new that you want to say about autism? because i know some celebrities said they got the vaccine, they saw you aism and with diet change autism went away which is focused to me as a doctor. >> i think they're parading off of the fear again that there's vaccine injury which has not been proven. studies on autism again and again and again. in 2002 there was a huge study in pediatric that looked at over

300,000 kids. found no increase of encephalitis which is brain swelling. no increase of autism whatsoever in the population that received the mmr vaccine. put that away. >> and finally you think -- what do you think about whether the cdc or government should intervene and make this into a mandate? that's a big question that comes from you guys who cover all of this. >> it's going to be a big issue especially if you have a potentially ill child going to a school where kids are not vaccinated. i guess the -- >> become a health crisis. >> one thing that states have started to do to david's point, making it a lot harder to get a deferment on this. come on. because then people get put at risk like in california. >> switching gears now you know today is super bowl sunday and a few hours away the game will have kickoff. some tips coming up from the doctors on how to make your super bowl party fun and more healthy. next.

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super bowl kickoff about five hours away. enjoying the game doesn't have to come at the expense of your waistline. i'm not giving up my nachos. i'm not. >> you can have your nachos, but not a lot of meat and fatty food in it. every year, we come up with a whole list of things you should be eating or drinking. i think that you should be drinking water now. prepare yourself for a real impact which is about four hours from now. so drink a lot of fluids. make sure during the game you always move around. you don't want to sit around for four hours and not do anything.

when the opposite team actually scores, the other people have to do pushups and run around. >> awesome. >> yeah. >> i'm not coming to your house to watch. >> eric, ten pushups, you can do it. >> i love this. start drinking water now so you can drink the margaritas later. >> also, we have all these hand sanitizers everywhere. >> no double dipping. >> that's another one and keep warm. when it comes to drinking, i'm okay with having some beer or whatever it is, but don't mix it and stay away from sugary drinks. the average number of calories during super bowl, almost a thousand calories after the first quarter. >> you have the chips on the table. everyone's putting their hands in. just grabbing everything. >> that's a great point. second point, 11 million pounds of chips are sold every super

bowl. third point, we give you great advice every year, no one ever listens to us. so don't get depressed tomorrow if you didn't listen to us. how about baking your chicken wings. you lemon and vodka and bake them. how about light beer? one last tip. at halftime, instead of watching katy perry, get out there and play a touch football game. >> that's where you lost me. i like everything you said, but i'm all about watching the halftime. >> those commercials are the key. i think we should all have a great time. we shouldn't stick to a lot of the boring stuff. if you want your burger, have it, it's fine. but have a turkey burger. >> all about them wings, about them wings. >> wake those wings. >> i'm frying them.

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a new study showing that drinking a glass of red wine is just as good as spending an hour at the gym. but how can that be? dr. siegel, i need the deets. >> do you drink red wine? >> i prefer white, but i do drink red for the properties. >> it's been studied mainly in animals, but i think it improves heart function, it may even decrease certain kinds of cancer. but it's also found in peanut butter, blueberries. >> but i like to drink the wine. >> and you should. but you shouldn't do it in my opinion instead of exercise. i'm not a fan of this study because exercise is very different. you go to the gym every morning. you don't want to eat after that. you drink water. it changes the hunger hormones

in the brain. exercise has been well studded and decreases your risk of heart disease and cancer. >> i agree. >> or you can have both. you can have red wine and you can exercise at the same time. there are a lot of -- >> at the same time? >> he means like you do -- >> it doesn't have to be either or. so basically there are a lot of studies that shows that it can actually sensitize the insulin receptors and studies that it may reduce the instance of diabetes. now a lot of these are in animal labs. the question is, how much red wine do i need to be drinking? in order for this to work, you got to have gallons and gallons of red wine which is going to effect your liver and it doesn't work. i think one glass a night socially is perfectly fine if you don't have liver disease, if

you're not taking any other medications that can effect your liver, that's perfectly line. peels and vitamins, there are a lot of variable ingredients that are not effective. >> so i don't have to take them? >> so should you have a glass of red win instead of the bills? >> yes. because it's very different than the supplement. >> i want to emphasize a point that david just mentioned here which is watch out what the study shows. you might want to look on the internet now, suddenly headlines, red wine is better than exercise or as good, but they forget to mention you have to use gallons and gallons and -- >> at one time? >> over a short period of time which is not possible. so it's not a good study. >> the anti objection dants that you have in dark chocolate, wine, all are good. if you add exercise to it, you're going to look healthy like this.

>> dark chocolate. >> my incentive on the treadmill is to burn enough calories to consume wine. >> watch the super bowl while you're on the treadmill. >> one glass for you arthel. big game today. take care. a fox news a letter. isis once again defies the world and really any sense of human decency. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. >> and the horror and condemnation coming in from around the world. this appears to show the murder of that second japanese hostage, kenji goto. still unknown, the fate of a jordanian hostage. jordan is renewing its offer to swap an al qaeda prisoner for the release of its fighter pilot. hello, connor. >> well, kenji goto was a renowned japanese journalist.