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the five had in fact attempted to return to terrorizing people. on friday night i asked the pentagon's spokesman how these killers had the ability to reach out to fellow terrorists when they were supposed to be under such close watch. and more importantly, what's going to happen when they are scot-free in three months. what we're being told they made contact with the haqqani network. if our protocols are so great, how did they make contact? >> i'm not at liberty to describe what the re-engagement system was. >> obviously there's a flaw in the system. >> actually, no megyn, it was the system in place the assurances and security measures we put in place that allowed us to discover the re-engagement activity. >> so we don't shut down the opportunity for these five guys to make contact with other terrorists. that's a little disconcerting. i mean should they be allowed to have this communication in the first place? >> well, obviously we don't want them to have communication with former taliban -- >> qatar's only going to watch

them for a year and that year is up in may and clearly they're interested in returning to terror. what are we going to do after may? >> again, i can't talk about the specific security arrangements with qatar. >> can they go back to afghanistan? >> again, i'm not -- they are not free to travel. >> even after the year? after the year in qatar are they free to travel out of qatar after the year? >> i can't go into the details -- >> why don't we get to know? joining me now republican senator lindsey graham, he has introduced legislation that would ban the transfer of medium and high risk prisoners out of guantanamo bay. senator, good to see you tonight. he wouldn't get specific about what happened, but he said the system worked. do you agree? >> no. the admiral is a fine man, and he's trying to tell the american people something that doesn't make sense. at the end of may they're going back to the fight. they have not been reformed. ask them tomorrow do you renounce the taliban, they're in

military prison in guantanamo bay because they collaborated with al qaeda to attack the homeland. they were in charge of the taliban government. they were senior taliban officials before 9/11. that's the reason they're in jail. and they're going back to the fight just as sure as night follows day. this makes absolutely no sense. >> he seemed to think that the system worked because clearly without getting specific about how we found out, we were monitoring them, we caught one guy, i guess, trying to make contact with terrorists, presumably taliban. and now we're on it. and we'll stay on it. >> well, these are the same people that administration told you al qaeda's been decimated and that isil is basically the jayvee team. the president of the united states is who i have a beef with, not admiral kirby. they put him in a box. >> he has to defend the pentagon, correct, that's what general keane said. >> he's a good man. but here's what i really do have a problem with. our president will not call this radical islam.

you know before world war ii people believed that they just gave hitler one more country or a german speaking portion of a country he would be fine. they never really understood that hitler wanted a master race. his goal was not to take part in the -- but dominate the world with an arian race and others would suffer and the jews destroyed. motivated by a religious doctrine that has no place for your eye, modern muslims or anyone else who disagree -- they want to master religion. >> he doesn't seem to dispute that, but he doesn't like describing it as radical islam. and he spoke to why just this past weekend in an interview with cnn. listen. >> there is an element growing out of muslim communities in certain parts of the world that have perverted the religion. i reject a notion that somehow

that creates a religious war. because the overwhelming majority of muslims reject that interpretation of islam. they don't even recognize it as being islam. >> your thoughts on that. >> well number one, mr. president, when you talk about closing gitmo, and you talk about -- if you close gitmo tomorrow and gave the palestinians everything they wanted, they would not stop radical islamists. radical islam is motivated by a religious doctrine that requires them to purify their religion. they can't be accommodated or appeased. >> his point is it's not all of islam, so why even bring islam into it. >> the biggest victims of radical islam are other people within the faith. if you don't understand what these people are trying to do you can't defeat them. clearly he doesn't understand that isil is no longer the jayvee team. he clearly doesn't understand that part of their charter is to

destroy israel and to come after us. if you really believe isil represented a threat to our homeland, would you be engaged in the strategy we are today? wouldn't you have some american ground forces working in the region to defeat these guys? when president bomb accuses john mccain and lindsey graham of wanting 250,000 troops to fight isil, he is basically mischaracterizing what we're saying to hide his weakness and his incompetence. the president of the united states is disconnected from what's going on in the mideast. his strategy is failing. and if you don't admit that we're at war with radical islam they're certainly at war with us, you can't defeat these people. you have to understand what they want and what motivates them to defeat -- >> that's what the general said last week which is why i was pressing the rear admiral kirby about it. senator lindsey graham, we appreciate it. >> thank you. we have new developments in the fight between washington and jerusalem. started when the prime minister

accepted an invitation to speak to congress without a green light or heads up to the white house. the administration then said it would not meet with mr. netanyahu during his visit because it was too close to the upcoming election and the president did not want to "influence the outcome." but my next guest says they may be doing just that. serves in the foreign affairs committee. sir, thank you very much for being here tonight. >> great to be here. >> do you believe that the white house, the administration, is interfering in the israeli election, how? >> well, senator ted cruz and i last week joined together calling for answers from the state department as to why u.s. tax dollars are being sent to a not for profit trying to overthrow the israeli government as far as netanyahu's regime. one voice, which is a u.s. taxpayer funded 501c3 not for profit has partnered with victory 15 in an effort to oust prime minister netanyahu.

one voice advertises on their website they are partners with the state department. they recently received two state department grants. v-15 and one voice are talking about merging, the plan is to merge prior to to the march election. and v-15 has entered into a contract of political consultant firm called 270 strategies, which has over a dozen individuals who are in leadership positions for obama's re-election and original election including jeremy bird who in 2012 was the national field director. >> let me ask you, one voice got that money from the state department prior to even the announcement that israel was going to have this election. so it's not like that money went to this specific cause. so who cares? >> well the second grant was recent. they just received the second grant just a couple months ago. i think it was around november 2014. and they are advertising on their website that they are partners with the state department. they clearly are merging with v-15 in their effort to oust the

prime minister. >> you think they should have to give back the money? even if it wasn't designated for this purpose that the money is in the same pot should they have to give back that money? >> i question their tax exempt status if they're engaging in those political -- we have a lot of great allies all across the entire world, but none more stronger than israel. which is a beacon of freedom and democracy and liberty in a region filled with radical islamic extremists and state-sponsored terrorism. so this president needs a refresher course on who our friends are and who our enemies are. he won't meet with the prime minister when he's coming to washington. his minions are racing overseas to topple -- >> joe said on the show last week they'd be doing that they didn't have to get the president's approval. that's what political operatives do. they move on to the next campaign.

>> one of a few things that are happening. when you add it all up it's kind of hard to explain the growing daylight between this president and netanyahu. it goes back to last summer when netanyahu decided enough was enough and he wanted to root out hamas from israel so his people wouldn't live in fear. instead of supporting our strongest ally the president was urging patience on the part of israelis while praising palestinian authority. >> we will continue to await a response from the state department to your letter. congressman, good to see you. breaking tonight, new controversies for possible presidential candidates. up next, how one question today caused a lot of pain for a couple of top candidates. plus the tale of two interviews. we'll show you nbc's super bowl chat with president obama and we'll compare it against fox news's sit-down last year. and then we'll detail the new theory on why the seahawks called the controversial play that gave the patriots a win. mark and arthur have some

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-- we think it's an important part of protecting their health and public health. i also think parents need to have some choice -- >> breaking tonight new political fallout after offhand remarks about vaccinations. first, governor chris christie of new jersey took flak for talking about a parents right to choose whether to vaccinate. then senator rand paul took it a step further not only arguing this is an issue of choice and freedom, but talking about how he has been told that some vaccinations led to "mental disorders." chris stirewalt is our digital politics editor and with me now. let's start with rand paul because we played the chris christie remarks but here's

what rand paul said in part. listen. >> i've heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. >> and so if we get him on stage in a presidential debate the follow-up will be from whom, jenny mccarthy? that's the problem. that type of allegation needs to be backed up by science. and the scientists who have studied now millions of children say that's not true. >> well, and he's a doctor. and it's part of his story about his work in the medical field and that is a very big part of his biography. so when he says that it's more than just when a candidate like i don't know barack obama in 2008 for example trots out some concerns. we have concerns we have worries, we should investigate more. it's one thing when a guy who's a state senator from illinois throws it out there, but a guy

who talks about being a doctor when he says it boom, that's a big boom. >> not only that then chris christie today talked about choice is important but said mary pat and i vaccinated our kids. but look what he said in 2009 when he was running for governor. many of these families affected by autism have expressed their concern over the new jersey -- i stand with them now and will stand with them as their governor in their fight for greater parental involvement in vaccination decisions. there shouldn't be choice governor candidates senators what the other side says -- we're not talking about as a human being, we're talking about going to school mandatory vaccinations. there shouldn't be because the science that led some to have concerns back then has been totally debunked. totally debunked. >> well, and beyond that here's the thing, any vaccination folks

are a powerful lobby, they are passionate and feel children's health has been at stake or damaged. they'll work hard for candidates who they think are on their side. and candidates have, and i wsay pandered necessarily because i don't know the condition of their hearts but have definitely reached out in ways to accommodate these folks and often have found themselves usinguse ing weasel words as president obama did in 2008. paul seems to be a true believer. >> even today. chris, great to see you. >> you bet. >> joining me with his take judge andrew napolitano. so i think you could defend those comments in 2009 2008 because even -- somebody who had a child in 2009. >> right. >> i remember saying wait, i'm hearing this stuff, is it true? my pediatrician set me straight we've had all three of our children vaccinated on time as prescribed by the doctor. but today the science is uniform. >> but the choice must be -- and this is what i think senator paul was saying and this is what

i think governor christie was saying though he backed off it. i think he used the word balance in inadvertently. they were both arguing the default position is parental, not governmental. half the states in the union allow parents to opt out -- >> for philosophical reasons. >> yes. not religious reasons. >> but -- >> that's the rand paul -- >> finish the sentence. they allow to opt out for philosophical reasons and then send them to public schools. >> that's the problem. that's the only government involvement we're talking about. none of these states says you must vaccinate your children period. no one's doing that. it's in order for them to go to school. >> only mississippi says that. >> and west virginia. >> right. so they're out of this equation. but if you don't vaccinate the child, and the child is ill and you know it and you send the child to school you commit a crime.

you could be indicted for that. >> but these candidates are going to get pressed -- so chris christie lives in a tough state. new jersey is a state that doesn't allow for the philosophical exception. if you don't get your kid vaccinated, your kid's not going to school. all these candidates are going to be forced to take a position. i ask you whether they're going to stand on the side of science which as i've said studied millions of children pediatrics, all reputable journals have come out and said there's no link between vaccines and autisms. based on a 1998 study by a guy in the uk who has now lost his medical license and a fraud and all have had to take it back and renounce it. >> couple points here. one, chris stirewalt, as usual, is right. there is a huge group in the republic -- conservative republican base that votes in republican primaries that does not accept the science as you've described it. and they vote. two, and i'm waiting for rand paul to say this, this is not a federal issue. this is not in the constitution. he's not running for governor of

new jersey or governor of kentucky. >> good point. >> this is for each individual state to decide because the states are in charge -- >> he's got an out clause. >> yes. >> and he apparently didn't see it because he talked about it and talked about it a lot. >> i hope he's watching. >> well governor christie's in a different position. he runs a state and talked about it. he's getting hit today because people are the one who say you locked up -- locked up kacih kaci kaci kaci hicoks. running -- he wanted those votes. he did not govern the way he said he would in 2009 once he became the governor. he enforces, better or worse whatever you think of this new jersey's vaccination laws to the letter. >> as written. here's another question.

jenny mccarthy is so much at the heart of this, she's a beautiful woman, has a huge microphone. she got out there and jacked up people's fears. i'm not saying she didn't legitimately fear what happened with her son was autism linked to the vaccines but the science says it wasn't. can anything be done about her, judge? in all the claims she's made and has failed to walk back. >> you know, the answer to defective speech is more speech. criticizing her just as you're doing. but in fairness to her, she represents the views of what a lot of people think. and let's face it, most fear is irrational. >> but things evolve. in 2015 it is clear they have failed to prove any link between vaccinations and autism. >> we're going to find opt mall gists that agree with them. >> good to see you, judge. there's breaking news tonight on whitney houston's daughter as bobbi kristina's

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taught at the state-funded university of illinois for years. he's not alone. one lawmaker is trying to put a stop to that. trace gallagher live with the details. trace. >> megyn, the man behind the bill says if sex offenders are not allowed to teach young people, why should terrorists be allowed? illinois republican state lawmaker char lie meyer says the legislation would ban any convicted of a crime related to terrorism from serving as a teacher at any state university or college that accepts taxpayer dollars. he says the bill is important because the university of illinois's system has a very bad habit of hiring terrorists, like james kilgore member of the sudanese kidnapped patti hearst. kilgore spent nearly 30 years hiding in south africa before being extradited back to the u.s. and served six years in

prison. after his release the university of illinois thought he'd make a fine history teacher. this is the same university system that as you said hired bill ayers founder of the weather underground, the communist revolution air group that in the 1970s conducted a series of bombings at banks the u.s. capitol and pentagon. ayers never apologized and yet he taught for 23 years. representative meyer thinks that's a bad lesson. listen. >> our military forces are dying everyday to fight for our freedom here. and it seems like we're just slapping the military in the face when we hire a terrorist to teach our youth. >> meier adds hiring terrorists cost the university millions in donations. the university of illinois would only say the bill is being reviewed. megyn. >> trace, thank you. mitt romney's decision to not run for president brought a lot of attention to the rest of the field, including one candidate who is suddenly getting a lot of

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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. for the seventh straight year president obama gives a live pregame super bowl interview. this year nbc's savannah guthrie

got the chance to ask the tough questions of the commander in chief before 100 million viewers. she did so in the white house kitchen. >> i don't know if this makes it into your presidential briefing books, but have you been following deflategate. people notice you have pep in your step. you were confident. your critics say maybe a little cocky. your party lost in november but you went in with such swagger. should you have been more conciliatory? quick game of either/or? football or basketball? offense or defense? wings or chips and guac? >> compare that to some of the questions you saw on the fox news channel last year. >> was it the biggest mistake of your presidency to tell the nation over and over if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance? you testified on the day the ambassador was murdered and three other americans he told secretary panetta it was a terrorist attack.

did he tell you secretary panetta, it was a terrorist attack? i got to get to the irs. you're saying no corruption? >> not even a smidgen was the answer. howard kurts is host of media buzz. savannah guthrie went on this morning to air her pre-taped interview with barack obama and was a fair interview. she pressed him on some significant issues like isis and then he gave her an answer she pressed him again and she didn't let his answer stand. but talk about a missed opportunity with the viewership of the super bowl watching the one we just showed the clip of. >> you took the words right out of my mouth because this was a massive audience biggest tv show in history. it it was kind of like infotainment. wings or chips? particular when she asked the president was his state of the union speech like an end zone dance? he denied it.

there weren't very many questions where she tried to pin him down on much of anything. it was more of a casual chat. >> is that a decision? in my experience of people that work worked at nbc news and work there now, managed by the highest level. this isn't savannah deciding how she's going to do this, this is nbc brass saying this is exactly how it's going down, go do it. >> oh, yeah. do we want to air the serious questions in the morning on "today" show. she's not freelancing. you have a rare opportunity with the super bowl and the president and i could have done without some of the fluffier stuff because it just gives barack obama a chance to be funny but doesn't hold him accountable. >> is that the point? >> well you know, maybe the thoughts of nbc it's super bowl sunday and everybody's partying and we don't want to get too serious. but still, it's an opportunity and you can do it in a way, savannah guthrie shouldn't try to be bill o'reilly. they have very different styles.

but you can do it in a way that doesn't seem like an inquisition. >> like she did this morning on "today" show. >> exactly. she knows how to do it. >> what did you make of the fact he made a flub about george washington living in the white house which of course wasn't built when he was president. and nobody. >> we make beer. first president since george washington to make some booze in the white house. >> mainstream media would have done with that if george w. bush had said it? >> i'll tell you why the pundits didn't hold him accountable on that, because they're all at home drinking beer watching the game. it slipped by. >> i think it would have been a different story if that had been george w. bush. let's talk about some of the controversies from the ad. now, the nationwide ad is getting hammered. here's a clip. >> i'll never learn to ride a bike. or get kissed. i'll never learn to fly or

travel the world with my best friend. and i won't ever get married. i couldn't grow up. because i died from an accident. >> good gracious. >> this was a bigger outrage than seattle throwing the ball on the 1 yard line with a minute left. lots of kids including mine were upset. for a company to use a child's death, we had to say nobody really died, to peddle insurance. and nationwide's attempts to justify it afterwards were pathetic. did nobody at the company understand how offensive this would be with so many kids in the audience? >> have they won though? because now we've mentioned their company name and shown the ad here? >> no, you don't want this kind of publicity. everybody online and on twitter is hammering nationwide for it's insensitivity. i think they're losers. >> what did you make of we had the typical kim kardashian with the selfies and the katy perry came out with the full you know, she wasn't like janet jackson wardrobe malfunction but she had it going on. what did you make of the

entertainment both in the commercials and super bowl halftime show? >> well, i've studied kim kardashian about 20 times. >> you're an excellent researcher. >> yeah. i think that was a spoof. she was mocking her image. i thought it was okay but my focus group, my 5-year-old looked at her and said that's inappropriate. i don't think boys should see that. i think a lot of boys were seeing that. i didn't think katy perry was out of line when it comes to what she was wearing. but the sharks that she was dancing with didn't have any bite. she has a great voice but she's not much of a dancer. just seemed so overproduced and a theatrical production that i wish i could fast forward. >> that left shark really got hammered -- nice james. for not knowing his moves. he was like a last-minute fill-in, was that the deal? >> we need to find out the identity of that shark because he screwed the thing up. >> the one on the left. they're giving him a hard time. cue up the tape. let's see. he's a little off. >> let's go to the slow-mo.

>> you can see he could do a little better. >> i think so. >> i think he's making it up as he goes along. he's doing no routine. he's like i'm at the super bowl. >> maybe he was drinking some of that white house beer. >> look at him with the arms up. big finish. big finish. all right, howie, good to see you. the other big decision was the game and the final seconds of the game. >> second and goal. goldman steps up on the left. play clock at five. pass is intercepted at the goal line by malcolm butler! unreal! >> and now tonight a new theory about why that happened is getting a lot of attention. arthur, new york trial attorney, fox news legal analyst and huge giants fan. mike eiglarsh dolphins

loyalist. sorry, both of your teams have not made it. >> my team beat the patriots twice in the super bowl. thank you. >> they're the super bowl champions. deal with it. so the theory is what, arthur? that the coach -- you walk us through. >> actually, megyn there's two conspiracy theories going on right now. one is that the patriots couldn't win. they could not be allowed to win because of goodell's relationship with the patriots because the patriots had gotten so beaten up about being cheated that they needed to win. but the other theory, which is more compelling and more believable is that pete carroll was almost instructed -- >> pete carroll's the coach of the -- >> seattle seahawks. that the running back who mocked the media, who mocked the system the whole week could not be the star of the game could not be the mvp. so they're running back, if they would have handed off the ball and he scored that touchdown -- >> because they're like goal and half a yard. half yard to go in. this guy's a star running back.

give him the ball. it's a no-brainer, seahawks win the super bowl. but they chose to pass. >> because they wanted wilson, the quarterback to be the mvp. he's the guy they wanted to say i'm going to disney world. >> come on. >> he's the guy they want to stand next to roger goodell. he's the pr prince, as opposed to lynch the running back. >> what about that, mark? they say even a high school football coach would never have called that play. >> i am no fan of that play. a colossal failure. but arthur and those who buy into this drank a gallon of gullible at their super bowl party and they're still hungover. why stop there? pete carroll and the seahawks i think, candidly helped elvis fake his death. and we all nose oswald didn't act alone. come on arthur. >> you need to keep in mind what people are saying in the locker room apparently megyn, some of the players are saying they didn't want to let the running back be the star. >> right. >> they didn't want to give him the mvp trophy --

>> marshawn lynch all around the super bowl i don't want to talk to the media media sucks, forget you. >> let's clarify something. let's clarify something for your viewers. the lynch that we're talking about was the guy who ran the play that got the ball down to the 1 yard line. >> aha. >> so let's think about that for a moment. as soon as he hits the 1 yard line, just then pete carroll and company said we're now going to come up with a play that's less effective to deny this guy the opportunity -- >> why would they give lynch the ball on first down, arthur if they didn't want him to score? >> they weren't on the 1 yard line, megyn. they were 10 yard or not nearly that close. >> they just knew he wouldn't get there. they knew the future hall of famer could not get there. they were banking on the tackle. >> i could tell you this if you're roger goodell who do you want standing next to you on that podium? >> objection. >> wilson who are is polished. >> come on. >> who is articulate.

>> standby, or this guy. watch. >> all right. i'm just here to i don't get fined so y'all can sit here and ask me all the questions you want to. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm just here so i won't get fined. >> megyn, listen, lincoln and douglas he is not. but to take the vertical leap and suggest that the coach then called a play that was of lesser assurance to get them in the end zone to deny him the opportunity is ridiculous. >> mark, i'm going to help you out, quick megyn. >> help me out. >> in research, five times this season they gave him the ball on the 1 yard line he only got it one time. >> mark was going to look at that research we sent you with but he was watching kim kardashian commercial.

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her remarks stood apart in new and appealing ways, that people warmed to her message. some say she gave "the perfect speech." so is carly fiorina the dark horse in this gop race? the former ceo of hue lit packard. it's somebody we hadn't considered. it's a woman. the gop field, it's like sarah palin. and that was it. and you popped up. what are your chances? >> well, i don't know. we'll see. but it is something that i'm giving very serious consideration to. and you know megyn, i think there are a lot of people out there who know that politics is desperately importantly. but who also feel as though politicians stopped talking to them a long time ago and who believe as i do that our federal government really needs fundamental reform now.

and that perhaps citizens and leaders can make that happen. >> what do you think -- in this world if you were to get this nomination you would potentially be going up against hillary clinton some believe. been first lady, u.s. senator, something to the effect of i've traveled more miles than any secretary of state. you have an interesting retort. >> well, what i said is like mrs. clinton i too have traveled hundreds of thousands of miles. but flying and traveling is an activity, it's not an accomplishment. and unfortunately she didn't accomplish anything as secretary of state. and unlike mrs. clinton i know there's a huge difference between terrorists purposely attacking our embassy in libya on the anniversary of september 11th murdering an ambassador and three other americans and a demonstration goes bad. and here we have only one person arrested more than a year later. and it sends a signal to every

terrorist around this world and all of our enemies which is that we're weak and it's open season. >> now your potential problem is name recognition even though you're extremely well known in business circles and have accomplished a lot when you look at the polls in name recognition you're down towards the bottom. >> of course. >> and you're getting a late start if you're starting now and going to go for it. how would you turn that around? >> well, first of all, i'm not sure it's a late start. i think many candidates are at the point now where we're start k to assess political support and financial support, build a team. i am doing all those things as well. certainly my name recognition isn't what the other candidates is because i haven't been in politics all my life. the way is to get out and meet people, go to iowa new hampshire, the early states. make sure people understand what you believe in and who you are and what you want to accomplish. so as i continue to consider this, that's what i'm going to continue to do. >> a lot of folks have mentioned

you as a potential darling vice presidential candidate because you would bring diversity both in terms of business experience and gender. but if you wound up being tapped by somebody for a vice presidential role, would any of these people who are potentially vying for the top spot be acceptable to you? in other words, would you run with any of these folks including sarah palin who i just mentioned? >> first of all i don't think you run for the vide presidency. there's only one job you can run for and that's the vice president. we have a broad, well-qualified slate of candidates that are considering this. and i think that's a very good thing. because i think we must win in 2016. i think our country is at a point where we need to make serious changes. i don't think this country can endure four years of hillary clinton or elizabeth warren.

so i think primary voters with whom this decision is played primary voters need to look at the field very carefully and very seriously consider all of the candidates. >> be very interesting to hear your messaging which we've heard already in some of your stump speeches but in a debate like equal pay. it's very difficult sometimes for republican men to go up against a woman and make these arguments. it's much different when you have a ceo, female ceo like you who's lived it. carly, thanks for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me megyn, great to be with you. >> we have breaking news on whitney houston's daughter as she fights tonight for her life after an incident in a bathtub that is eerily fami shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list now it is. we've made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. buy their services directly at angieslist.com

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the scanner also referring to it being domestic related but no sign of any struggle. she was found in the tub by her husband who performed cpr until paramedics arrive. her father has been said to be inconsolable and by her side the entire time. she is fighting for her life and surrounded by immediate family. as her father already stated we are asking you to honor our request for privacy during this difficult time. bobbi kristina was carried out on a stretcher reportedly because of alcohol and sedatives. we know whitney houston died almost exactly three years ago in a bathtub, her death was attributed to a heart problem and cocaine. megyn. >> trace, thanks. we'll be right back.

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