job. our friend david clark tweeted this. saw it on tv. guess i couldn't work for that wyoming sheriff. >> looking good. >> another reason i like david clark. >> see you back here tomorrow. bill: a fox news alert. the national debate on vaccines is getting hotter by the day. now becoming a political football in the race for 2016 as officials battle 100 cases across the nation. welcome to america's newsroom. martha is at home today. how are you doing? heather: i'm heather childress filling in for her. it started with chris christie and rand paul both saying parents should have input on whether to vaccinate their children. >> i heard of many tragic cases of walking talking normal children who wound up with

profound mental disorders after vaccines. >> the parent needs some measure of choices. that's a battle the government has to decide. bill: peter doocy with the latest on the political backlash at the white house. what's the rest of the field saying about this vaccination controversy? >> reporter: governor christie is getting it from his left and his right and none of his rivals are hammering him about his trade trip to england. it's about the governor saying paints have the freedom to give their kids the shots or not. dr. ben carson a political rival says though i strongly believe in individual rights and the rights of parents to raise their children as they see fit i

realize public health and public safety are important in our society. secretary of state hillary clinton got her punches in tweeting the science is clear earth is round the sky is blue, and vaccines work. hashtag grand mothers know best. she did tell the action network that she was interested in investigating the causes of autism including whether vaccinations are involved. president obama says he thinks it's a major achievement of modern civilization that we can stop diseases today that in the past would have wiped out big chunks of the population. so president obama wants kids to get vaccinate and he's saying that. but in 2008 when he was candidate obama he took a', much

didn't position. >> we have seen a skyrocketing autism rate. nobody knows exactly why. some people are suspicious it's connected with vaccines and triggers, this person included. the science right now is inconclusive but we have to research' it. >> reporter: in 2008 he said the science is inconclusive and now he says the science is indisfewable. heather: 14 infants have been quarantined after a child at a daycare in california was diagnosed with the disease. >> reporter: this has been and issue in california long before the outbreak at disneyland. the problem is preventible. but valve allows kid to attend

public school without a vaccination for personal or religious reasons. 14 infants enrolled in a childcare center on a campus. it's a concern at the infant center because children younger than 12 months old are too young to have the vaccination. the first was a high school baseball coach. parents say they are worried. >> i want to say to the people who are anti-vaccination that there are consequences to your strong views, and i think -- i think people should think long and hard before they buck the regime. >> if you are not going to have them immunized. keep them home. if you are going to bring them

out into the public you need to be respectful to the rest of us. >> reporter: 14% of the kids in the santa monica district were not vaccinate but at some of the other districts in l.a. the number exceeds 50%. 48 states allow for the religious exemption. 18 for the personal belief exemption. 2 or 3 dom doctors very well known don't believe in the vaccine. there are 100 cases in the united states. 49 traced to disneyland. the latest outbreak included 14 people in south dakota which has been traced to a family gathering. that's the greatest number since measles was eliminated in

basically 2000. studies showing that it's related to autism have been discredited and not accurate. bill: we'll take a closer look at that next hour, to vaccinate oral not. we'll put the questions to dr. richard carmona. the battle over obamacare on capitol hill takes center stage. president obama works to shore up support for the lay as law makers get ready to vote on a bill to repeal obamacare. a hearing got heated when a democratic congressman took a

shot at a republican's home state. i don't know about your state which i think is a crazy state to begin with. >> that's a defamatory statement about my stays and i don't listen to it. >> then fine you don't have to listen. i told you what i think about texas. i wouldn't live there for all the tea in china. >> there is no reason at all to impugn the people and governor of a state of this country and i'll await the gentleman's afollowy. >> you will wait until hell freezes over for me to say anything in an apology. bill: i don't think they are budging. ing you what's the problem going opening in texas? >> it's the least favorite state because of the model of liquor i and self reliance.

people are moving from because that's where the jobs are. bill: which governors are taking the subsidy under obamacare and which are not. >> that's the debate whether the court will interpret obamacare as written or they are not. the law says if you are a state and you don't set up exchanges you don't get subjects does under obamacare. the court rules the way the law is written instead how they are interpreting it, it will be a major upheaval. bill: republicans are voting on what? >> they are voting to repeal obama carol. almost every republican to campaigned last year campaigned against this law and campaigned on repealing it, they won big victories in the house and senate.

they feel they need to keep faith with their voters even though if it gets'president's desk he will veto it. there is a question on whether they will get to vote on the under lying bill because democrats will do everything they can to filibuster or block a vote on that bill. bill: what will the path do? >> he's having an event with people enrolled in obamacare. this is the political advantage he has. it's written into law it's currently in law and there are millions of people who get their coverage through obamacare. which makes it important for republicans to not just talk about repeal, but to talk about replace. what is their system that will make it easier for people to get insurance and we see those conversations happening on capitol hill. bill: speaker boehner told bret

baier the republicans will have a plan. we'll see that sometime soon, i guess. >> don't mess with texas. heather: the other big fight funding the department of homeland security. the senate takes up the house-passed bill which funds dhs but cuts off money for the president's am snels i plan. the democrats say they will vote against it. president obama says the fight will affect thousands of workers. >> until they pass a funding bill it is the end of a paycheck for tens of thousands of front-line workers who will continue to get -- to have to work without getting paid. over 40,000 bored early patrol and customs agents. 50,000 tairmt screeners. 13,000 immigration officers.

40,000 men and women in the crying *. of -- -- in the coast guard. heather: the republicans disagree. bill: there is back lark over the president's $4 trillion budget proposal. >> there are so many things he could have done rather than sending in another tax and spend manifesto. bill: we talk to a leading in the member of the house ways and means committee. heather: digging in or digging out. an ice storm causing problems across the northeast with ripple effects across the country. comparing isis to nazis lindsey graham says there is a

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night. he went to a church asking for help. when the church didn't know month he was they bought him a bus ticket. lee is accused of murdering five people including his wife and family members. bodies were discovered in georgia saturday. >> number one priority for the members of congress and the executive branch is to keep america safe. we call on the president to tell us what the mission is, tell us the strategy and we'll fashion a budget to fit that strategy. what the president wants to us do is find a budget and cram the mission into it. bill: lawmakers in both chambers start poring over the $4 million budget proposal. '. based on what you know right now, what do you support in a $4

trillion propose tall? >> honestly, let me be clear. this is a political document. it's hard to see where the president's plan is going work. he historically proposed more spending thinking it will work. he wants tax reform. can we agree how to approach that so we are not just focusing on businesses. also is he interested in trade making sure we can get trade agreements so we can help our economy grow. bill: he and the white house call it middle class economics and he says it's fully paid for. i guess it is if you get the taxes in the response. >> it's not fully paid for.

it operates at a deficit of $470 trillion. in is no plan to pay down our debt. plus he increases taxes in a way that will hurt our economy not help it grow. bill: paul ryan called it envy economics. >> this president divides by class. he pits people against each other. i reconcile the fact that this guy is not going to be that guy. all he's going do is push people against other people. what we need to do is be responsible. we have to put forward a vision so we can get a leader that wants to solve a lot of the problems. i talk to people who are frustrated and they are missing paycheck to paycheck and they know these budget won't give us any results. bill: $18 trillion in debt and

it's not going down. it's going higher and higher. the national conversation from a few years ago moved away entirely from this. why did that happen? >> his whole legacy is going to be the debt and how he's tripled this country and what he's done on national security. i'm concerned about the next two years. republicans have a big job in front of us as a member of the ways and means committee. we need to restore the american dream that gives people hope for the future. bill: you remember the whole bat wind chill sequester. >> yes i do. bill: the president said this about that two years ago. >> if the sequester is allowed to go forward, thousands of americans who work in fields like national security, education or clean energy are

likely to be laid off. bill: apparently it did not happen. when it comes to the defense budget there is room for negotiations? >> sequester is not the perfect way to reduce our spending. people are learning to get by with less. washington needs to do the same. i would rather do that through targeted cuts. our world this turmoil. we have more and more threats every day. we need to keep our men and women armed trained, ready to go to keep us safe. heather: a double shot of extreme weather causing major problems for people all across the northeast and beyond. first, it was the blizzard that blasted the region and now frigid temperatures turning that snow into ice. we are live with the latest. plus this. >> whether it's warm out oral

just absolutely freezing. that's a great time. patriots fans braving the cold. sunday's game is making history and we'll tell you why. >> 1963. long time. it's like a dream i have been living.

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bill: sunday's super bowl was the most watched program in u.s. history. it grew to 114 million viewers from 2 million from last year's game. 7 of the top 8 highest rated tv shows are the super bowl.

katy perry's performance the high yet rated halftime show. heather: i watched every minute of it at home. you were there in person. at the end of the day did people realize what had happened? bill: it was very fast. if you go to the super bowl don't get lost in your smartphone. that was so quick and brady scores and here comes seattle the juggled ball and then the interception. they should give him the key to the city tomorrow when they hold the parade. the corner brak from western alabama division 2 came from a small school.

you don't expect to see something like that. brady was the mvp. he got the truck. heather: he did. it was a great game, absolutely. people down under watching it due in part to this major storm. people wake up to bitter cold and icy conditions. take a look at this time lapse the snow piling up north of new york city. more than a foot of snow by the was new england getting the brunt of that snow. the snow may be over at least for now. dangerous subzero withs. how is it feeling there? report what a continues a day makes. don't expect these giant piles to be melting today. it's frigidly cold.

single digits in some areas. but we can see the roadways today. we have got payment you can see. it's you to talk. your mouth starts to freeze. we are seeing a lot of traffic. the bad news. the old subway system suffering major problems. the third rail actually froze at one place and things are a mess trying to get people from place to place. the big mound of snow are tough to see around. one woman was killed by a snow plow at her apartment complex. a piece of of good news, you guys were talking about the super bowls. the new england patriots managed to make it home from the southwest. but the cheers will tomorrow come downtown boston 11:00 a.m.

tomorrow the new england patriots fans will be able to cheer on that team and welcome them home more officially. heather: thanks, molly. bill there are meantime you feel bad for seattle. heather: i was going for seattle. bill: there is more backlash over the president's plan to close gitmo. senator lindsey graham slamming it -- graham slamming it as a huge mistake and putting americans at risk. heather: pounding the pavement may be jut as harmful as sitting on your couch.

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center shutting down after a child contracted measles. 14 other kid under a 3-week quarantine. the battle over obamacare will be in the spotlight. the president has vowed to veto any repeal bill. staples and office depot considering a mega merger. heather: new fallout over the president's plan to close gitmo. senator lindsey graham says we need to keep them locked up so they don't return to the fight. >> before world war ii people believed if they just gave hitler one more country or a

portion after country he would be fine. they never realized he wanted a master race. the radical islamists want a master religion. they don't want a master race. heather: bill o'reilly echoing the same thoughts in last night's talking point. bill: what is the continues between isis, al qaeda, the taliban which recently slaughtered 123 children. and the nazis? what's the difference? there is no difference. slaughter for no reason whatsoever. heather: john bolton joins us with more insight. thank you for joining us. do you think it is a fair comparison? what are your thoughts comparing radical islam to the nazis.

>> i think the context in the middle east is similar to the rise of communism in europe. that's what's happening all over the middle east today. radical islamists are declaring caliphates countries are coming apart in iraq and syria where isis destroyed the national boundary all the way to boko haram inning in *. -- -- in nigeria. this is not based on poverty or oppression, this is an ideology that derives from a religion. heather: how do you defeat that when it's an ideology that

derives from religion. >> you to recognize the threat and understand its nature and decide what your objective is. the president says he's opposed to what he calls violent extremism but let's take the example of isis. he says our objective is to degrade and ultimately destroy isis. ultimately is a long time away and degrading it you can do by bits and pieces or you can get serious about it. the problem is the statement of the president's objective is wrong. to return to the post world war i analogy candle said we should have strangled bolshevism in its cradle. before boko haram takes over huge territory in northern

africa. we need american leadership here to help the arab states and other friendly countries in the region defend themselves against this threat and right now we are not providing any leadership. if we don't define the objective you can hardy have a strategy. heather: do i -- do you think the president doesn't understand it or he doesn't want to and wants to buy time so the next administration has to deal with it. >> i think the most harmful aspect of the president's view is he thinks american involvement would make the situation worse. that somehow our participation would create more radical threats than we see today. i think the exact opposite is true. states like israel, the arab countries, enter ski need outside assistance against this

threat. the reason it unless our toinlt provide that leadership is if the radicals take over more and more countries if they get control of the oil producing regions along the persian gulf, if you see iran which has been the central anchor of terrorism get more weapons the threat will metastasize. sadly the costlier it will be for us in terms of human lives. >> when you say outside assistance, in what form? >> i think there is a lot we can do but it requires mobilizing the arab states to help defend themselves. it may rural american forces on the ground. but that's why it's important in understanding this debate. the first question out of the news reporters isn't you fave american boots on the ground, you have to look at this in a

broad national interest context and we need to be able to state what our grand grand strategy is and i don't think we have done that. the president doesn't recognize the nature of the threat. it's not just that he won't use the magic word radical islam. i don't think he understands it. if he is he isn't willing to do what he need to do. if the president and the opposition party both say america faces a threat from radical islam we'll stand up to it. but if we don't have leadership from wash it's no surprise that people go about their daily business. heather: ambassador john bolton, thank you for joining us. bill: we are flying now the dow up 152 points. there is news out there about a slight increase in home prices month to month.

office depot considering a merger with staples. that's moving the markets too on the big board thus far. 22 minutes before the hour. it's being called a mix between resumebetweenrumba and r2d2. heather: governor scott walker emerge as a top choice for workers in a critical state. what does that mean for the field? >> there will be a broader pool of people drawn into the caucasus because there will be more candidates. the interesting thing is not where everybody is, but that there was so much movement between october and today for scott walker.

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heather: dramatic moments as a passenger boat catches fire in china. the fire broke pout while the boat was sailing. 53 passengers and 7 sailors are brought safety. the cause of the fire still under investigation. >> the top down government knows best it's a tired old approach that hasn't tbhorktd past and i don't think will work in future. people are looking for something new and fresh and dynamic instead of the top down government knows best approach we want something built up with big, bold ideas. bill: wisconsin governor scott walker pushing the need for new ideas in washington.

that could be why he's leading in the the pack of potential candidates in the state of iowa. mitt romney is out of the race. karl rove the former deputy chief of staff for president bush. walker has a record as governor. blue state. when it comes to iowa he's evangelical as well. mike huckabee shows that tbhorkd 2008. >> to top it off he was at 4% in october and now he's at 15%. the difference is he gave a speech that was way above expectations at the was -- at the iowa forum. it was delivered without notes. it caught everybody's attention was discussed on radio and i'm

sure was the topic of conversation at a lot of coffee shops across the state of iowa for several days. bill: rush limbaugh says people like him because he fights back. how do you see that? >> we need to take this news with a little bit of caution. we shouldn't get a case of prema tiewrl surveyitis -- a case of prematureitis. at this point john mccain was ahead of the pack of 13. in 2011, huckabee led. he didn't even run. now they are number 11 with 2% with rick santorum who ended up winning with an eyelash over

romney. it means something but we have got to be careful because iowans pay a lot of attention to the candidates so there is a lot more expectation. we'll see a lot of movement and the leader is not likely -- rarely is the leader later. bill: jep bush apparently long profile in the boston globe. went to a private school as a teenager in the northeast and admits to smoking pot and having a great time and being shall we say irresponsible. what is the strategy behind doing an interview like that? and what's the effect of something like that later? >> well, you are right it's a

long piece it's 4,000 word. it my have been the "post" said i want to write a story about you and andover. jeb bush was very forthcoming. he said i was irresponsible. but the key part of the story is he goes on a work study program in mexico, meets at the age of 17 his future wife to be and turns around his life. and rather than be almost kicked out because of bad grades he ends up being on the honor roll in his latter years and wins a prize and has been married to the girl he met on that mexican work study program for 44 years. when you have got stuff in your

background like this get out and put it in bestway possible then it becomes polled news by the time the election comes out. bill: obama did that in the book he wrote "dreams of my father." you have had five days to think. did you want to add one more thing? >> what happens when you are a teenager doesn't matter unless that same behavior is present in your behavior as an adult. i was young and irresponsible washes it out. bill: mitt romney. what's the impact of him dropping out? >> it makes the field even more fluid and puts up for grabs a lot of donors, a lot of talent and a lot of voters. the next 6 7 8 months are going to be spent by a lot of people pursuing those people and hoaive is dwroat make up their mind and there are plenty of

them. the thing i take away from the early polls is the on test is more volatile with one out of every two republicans saying i'm undecided and others saying i'm weakly linked to the choice you forced me to express. heather: the cdc the mates 2 million people a year leave the hospital with an infection they did not have going in. there is a new device hoping to fix that. bill: going out for a jog, a good way to keep your health healthy. a new study on what you should do with that run.

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bill: french police saying man with a knife attacked three soldiers on an anti-terror patrol. the two people with him are still on the run. it happened in nice, a resort town in southern france. more than 10,000 soldiers positioned around the cub tritrying to protect sensitive locations including major shopping areas. more information on this. heather: new technology in the war on germs. the cdc estimates 2 million people get a hospital infection he year. but germ-fighting robots are helping reduce those numbers

dramatically. so how effective are these robots perhaps against measles? >> reporter: they are so effective they kill those germs though measles is a virus typically spread through the air but they can survive on hospital bets for a couple hours. but surface bacteria and spores is what the robots aim to attack. they are made by companies and they emit uv3 rays into the room hitting all the surfaces in the room. and uv3 rays are typically reflected by the earth's rays.

they kill 100% of ebola bird flu, norovirus even the super bugs all in about an hour. >> nationwide it is an issue. it cost us billions of dollars every year for hospital acquired infections. the battle we have is to insure whatever is brought into the hospital is not passed to the next patient. bill:patient.bill. >> reporter: they run about $100 per but that's about $100:per patient day in the hospital. bill: a word to the wise before laying up your running shoes. new research suggests too much jogging could be harmful to your health and as harmful as doing

nothing as all. hard-core runners are just as likely to die as people who don't exercise. the experts present not pounding the pavement more than three times a week. now you have an excuse. the head of the irs about to get grilled on the hill. the irs warning tax season will be plagued by refund delays and customer service cuts. how is he going to defend that? heather: the vaccine debate exploding as more cases of the measles are exploding. surgeon general is here.

>> brand new hour here and the head of the i.v.s.r.s. getting ready

to be grilled today after his agency threatened a miserable tax season for hard working americans. there will be delays in refunds, cuts from customer service, oh joy. new hour of america's news room. martha is a bit under the weather today. >> she is. >> hope she gets feeling better very soon. how are you heather? >> nice to be here. commissioner appearing for the first time before the new congress. where republicans now control the senate. today's hearing we'll look at president obama's call to boost the i.r.s. budget by billions at a time when the agency faces major questions of wasteful spending and scandal. chief congressional correspondent is live on capitol hill for us so mike what about the i.r.s. crying poor? >> well heather, good morning. i.r.s. did take a $346 million cut this fiscal year and since then, i.r.s. commissioner has been warning that about half of the $100 hun00 -- 100 million or so

calls to the agency may get answered. those who get through wait a half hour or more and he's talked about closing the tax collection agency for two days late this fiscal year to make the budget shortfall. since then president obama proposed an 18% increase in the tax collection agency funding which a key republican senator says is ridiculous. >> you look at the fact that the i.r.s. has the power of intimidation. they're coming in and saying we're going to delay your tax returns because we can't get our act together. and the president's response is? let's give the mess more money. you get more money you get bigger mess. that's a major problem. >> with republicans controlling both the house and the senate at this point of all the president's proposals from yesterday's budget, the idea of giving the i.r.s. 18% more funding seems to be deader than dead. >> what about the missing i.r.s.

emails? where does that stand? >> you'll recall former official lois lerner's emails have been missing much she refused to testify on capitol hill twice taking the fifth. a computer crash was blamed for her emails and many others disappearing and since then there's been forensic analysis trying to go to backup tapes, trying to find those missing communications. there may be news on that front. we wait for the hearing in a half hour or so for any revelations related to missing emails. >> mike thank you. so if we are hearing this right, the i.r.s. says it needs more money. as mike reported president obama asking to raise the agency budget by 18% to nearly $13 billion. steven is the senior writer and fox news contributor. how are you, steve in >> good morning, bill. >> more money for the i.r.s. and not just a little bit of money. i mean a lot. how is that going to go over? >> it is pretty remarkable. when you look at the way that

some i think, big government activists or advocates of big government look at the way that government functions, they look at the agencies and the departments that are doing the least effective work and want to throw more money at them as if that will suddenly make them perform a lot better. i think the better argument here is one you're going to hear from republicans which is, if the i.r.s. isn't functioning well either eliminate it or dramatically scale it down. that's one way to ensure it's more effective and more efficient. give it fewer duties fewer responsibilities and by all means, give it less money. >> buffett tax we went over that in 2008 2012 limit itemized deductions for the wealthy. mitt romney loop hole. these are boiler plate democratic ideas. >> right. i think they're very good for the president of the united states to go out examine make a case. he sees this budget as a political document. i think he's correct in seeing

it as a political document and in some ways he's in front of republicans. the president is using this to make a political argument. it is envy politics as paul ryan suggested over the weekend but he's making his case. you know, it's consistent with what he argued in the state of the union. he's continuing it now with his budget. he's campaigning around the country making these arguments and obviously there's a certain segment of the population that's open to these kind of arguments. he was reelected in 2012 by making these arguments. what's been a little surprising to me is that you haven't heard a consistent compelling argument from republicans making the opposite point. you had in the senate three weeks on keystone pipeline votes. you haven't had a isn't message out of the house. republicans are behind in this debate. >> so on that point here's mitch mcconnell arguing precisely what you're talking about on the floor of the senate. >> he could have proposed a budget that was balanced. he could have challenged us with

serious, innovative reforms aimed at getting spending under control or effective ideas to create jobs and opportunities. there's so many positive things he could have done instead of phoning in another tired tax and spend manifesto. we basically see the same thing every year. >> what about that steve? >> i think mitch mcconnell is exactly right on all of his particulars but republicans have tried that argument. they tried that in 2012. think back. it was a referendum on president obama. mitt romney didn't put out much of his own plan and to the extent he put out his own plan it wasn't something that you could say what is mitt romney's tax reform plan? republicans, if they want to be success informal my view have to do that. you have to provide an alternative plan. if there's ever going to be a politically opportune moment to do that, it's right now on the heels of the i.r.s. abuses when you're talking about excessive taxation, when you have a president whose answer to every

question seems to be to feed the government more money, republicans should be driving a contrast by putting out their own reform proposals. i understand those are coming. that's certainly the case that paul ryan's ways and means committee are going to be putting those out. i just think that's a little late. >> what do you call it? envy politics? good to have you back. >> meanwhile, the state of ohio trying to simplify things taking new steps toward eliminating income taxes altogether. the governor proposing the tax cuts in his new budget proposal. the republican has long said that his ultimate goal is to make the state the eighth in the nation with no income tax to make up for the lost revenue, he's proposed boosting the state sales tax and cigarette tax. >> very interesting, whether it succeeds or not. he could be in the running for 2016, too. we'll have that argument and that topic. six minutes past the hour.

>> and we have a hearing just getting underway on capitol hill about the greatest threat facing america. leaders from the intelligence community testifying on isis al qaeda and more. chief intelligence correspondent katherine harris joins us live from washington with the latest. katherine? >> heather, a short time ago the hearing began before the house armed services committee bringing together some of the most senior military intelligence officers including the new hid of the defense intelligence agency, lieutenant general vincent stewart. annual worldwide hearings provide the most detailed public assessments from the core leadership in pakistan its affiliate in syria as well as isis and this year's countries once hailed as victories including yemen, will be under the microscope with the government's recent collapse. republican chairman whom you see there said recently quote the threat from islamic extremism is clearly on the rise and all of us including our allies must

understand the stakes. we can't just look nation by nation but bust develop a strategy that addresses the broader underlying threats including terrorism. these hearings are used to justify the budget request for fiscal year 2016. >> and what are we expecting to hear on isis? >> well this morning it's really key to watch for the military intelligence community's assessment of isis and whether it is in step with the president's recent statement his policies are rolling back the terror group. since august when military strikes began against isis reporting from pro syrian opposition groups indicates isis controls more territory, controls here is twinned where the taxes supply services are the only armed operatives on the ground. in recent testimony, a former secretary of state warned against repeating past mistakes. >> we should not let this conflict with isis slide intu the pattern of the previous

boards which start with support and after awhile, they generate into a debate about withdrawal. >> the question of withdrawal or boots on the ground but again, the key piece is going to be isis, the military intelligence community's assessment and whether it stands in line or in contrast to what we're hearing from the white house. >> thank you. >> criticism of the fight against isis taking direct aim at the commander in chief. >> it's a global discourage scurge. the global leader is the united states of america. the commander in chief is president obama. lead. >> that's the former homeland security secretary slamming administration's policy. is the white house getting the right or wrong? that plus this. >> the measles breaking out and people are worried about it.

my take is that every school district in the country should require immunization for measles. if you don't have it your child can't go. period. but this is now political thing. >> the growing measles outbreak now breaking out as a potential issue in the 2016 campaign. how did the politics match up to the medical reality? we will talk about a former surgeon general. >> looking forward to talking to him. also up, up and away. the team behind a history making balloon flight are here live to tell us how they did it.

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>> we mentioned this 30 minutes ago, keeping an eye on a developing story in nice, france. a man with a knife has attacked three french soldiers on anti-terror patrol. suspect said to be in custody. two people were with him are still apparently on the run. not accounted for. we don't know how badly the soldiers' injuries could be but france, you know has upped the security presence. it's been on high alert since islamic extremists attacked a newspaper in paris two weeks ago. we're watching that story when we get more we'll bring it to you. >> there's new criticism for the white house and the fight against isis. top intelligence officials testifying right now on capitol hill about the greatest threats

facing america, including the rise of the terrorist army. this comes as former homeland security secretary tom ridge blasts the president's stated strategy of containing the threat. >> containment is not a strategy. takenment means we're going to continue the status quo, continue to wreak havoc in syria and iraq so the notion that continuing to do everything we're doing now without accelerating military involvement, group our allies' troops on the ground because containment gets us nowhere. >> jack keen is a retired four star general chairman of the institute for the study of war and a fox news military analyst. thank you for joining us. >> go ahead morning heather. >> so general, we heard katherine harris reference the worldwide threat hearing going on right now on capitol hill. what is the greatest threat that

is facing america and is this administration prepared to do what it takes to counter it? >> well there are significant security challenges that is facing the united states and the they're only comparable to global communist but the number one challenge is radical islam that is spreading throughout the region and it's exponentially growing four fold in five years in terms of al qaeda and its affiliates and then you also have iranian radical islam that's seeking regional control and influence a number of countries in the region. so that's the number one threat that we're dealing with and as we've said before there's no strategy, you know, to cope with that. >> you know, and that's interesting because back in 2012, president obama repeatedly

said that al qaeda was quote on the path to defeat but you just mentioned, and as you testified yourself on capitol hill last week it's grown four fold in just the last five years. so wouldn't you think that the administration would at least be making an effort to create a strategy and what should that be? >> well, given the fact that it's a global problem from western africa all the way to the sub indian continent of south asia you know log you given a scale of a problem like, that the only way you can resolve it is bring all the interested parties together and those in europe obviously also have a vested interest, though not directly involved in the region and let's put together a strategy and the resources to get after this thing. and most of the countries in the region would be doing the heavy lifting. it's not that the united states would be going to every one of those red spots on the map there with troops where we would be helping others to do it

effectively and take a comprehensive approach. >> can you explain this to us? this is something that you presented on capitol hill. explain what we're looking at here in terms of the growth of the radical islam. >> well when you look at the map, the al qaeda and affiliates are in red. the dark red is where they are physically located and the lighter red is where they operate inside that country or a krs the border. the green, dark green is iran and the light countries are the areas they're influencing. it's iraq with a capital of baghdad, now yemen and obviously always as it has been it supports hamas in israel and so clearly, iran is also on the march and they want to acquire nuclear weapons and all we're talking about with the iranians although it's significant to have the discussion, is nuclear weapons. we don't talk about the fact

they have proxies and their prosecutes proxies have been killing us. >> troops on the ground? president obama says no. >> i don't think the answer to that scale of problem is just american troops. i mean it's not just a kinetic solution. it's most of the countries in the region with our assistance but we must counter the narrative, take their funding away and frankly, in long term solutions, we have to deal with the countries in the region who have created some of the conditions that are sparring this movement. in other words, there's political reform and social justice needed in these countries. there's no democracies out there other than israel and that's part of the problem here and these countries have to admit that there are some things that they're doing that is helping to create this. that's a long term answer. the short-term answer obviously is mostly military and it's also

undermining the ideology count of the narrative and taking the money. >> and recognize that the problem does exist. thank you so much. >> good talking to you, heather. >> about 20 minutes past the hour now. there's a spending showdown that will affect every american democrats vowing to stop a spending bill that would defund the president's amnesty program but that could leave some federal workers on the job with no pay. so then, who blinks first? >> and what do you get when a truck full of frozen chickens hits a truck full of beans? your daughter has a brilliant idea for her science project. and you could make it happen. right? wrong. because you're not you you're a cancer hospital and your daughter... she's a team of leading researchers... and that brilliant idea is a breakthrough in patient treatment that could save thousands of lives. which means you need a diverse team of advisors helping you. from research data analytics

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full of frozen chicken hits a truck full of beans and then burst into flames. look at this. the chicken truck losing control, crashing in arizona, 25,000 pounds of chicken spilling out on the side of the road catching fire. the other truck pulls over but bees escape in a swarm and drivers shutting their windows in a hurry. luckily we can have some fun with it because there's no one hurt. some that far -- some of that chicken coming from the super bowl, no doubt. >> a mother charged with the death of her 5-year-old son. lacy spears accused of putting toxic levels of salt into a feeding tube. david lee miller following this now. what do you expect to hear today on this case? >> bill the opening statements were supposed to begin about one hour ago. there's been a delay here at the

courthouse but we do expect that the prosecution in its opening statement is going to say that soon after her son was born, lacy spears allegedly convinced doctors to implant a feeding tube in her infant son because he could not keep food down. we expect the prosecution to further claim they used the feeding tube to give her son lethal doses of sodium. now, all the while lacy spears claimed to be a loving mother. she reportedly used a social media site to post pictures of her son as well as messages when he was less than one year old and hospitalized she posted on a myspace page many pictures of her son and the following message had to spend christmas in the hospital. see his i.v.? he was a sick little man. had him all hooked up. poor baby boy. she repeatedly used the internet

to try to win sympathy from friends and family about her plight but the prosecution, bill, is expected to say she also used the internet to research how to use salt to cause injury. >> what a case this is. what's the defense saying, david lee? >> the defense signalled it's not going to make any argument here for mental illness. just a few moments ago i talked briefly with the defense attorneys. they said they were not going to outline their strategy against in the courtroom itself but the defense has said in the past that lacy spear welcomes her day in court. interestingly, she apparently does have family members here to support her and one other thing of note bill, the prosecution reportedly has listed in legal papers that lacy spears during the last few days after her son's arrest researched using insulin for the purpose of

committing suicide. >> david lee miller from a case in white plains new york. 26 past the hour now. >> first the deep freeze and now a flash freeze making problems even worse. >> yeah. we thought we were getting off easy this winter because we haven't had much snow. all of a sudden the big blizzard and then this. once it starts happening like this, you settle in and get ready for it. >> people in the northeast can't catch a break as millions face major problems with temperatures in the teens and wind chills below zero. >> i think they call that winter. >> yeah. exactly. it is february. >> should the government require your child to get a vaccination? potential rivals for the white house weighing in on this. we'll talk to the former surgeon general about his view on this. >> i also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in things as well so that's the balance that the government has to decide. reat if hiring plumbers, carpenters

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>> a flash freeze following a snowstorm in the northeast creating dangerously cold and icy conditions snarling air traffic nationwide. thousands of flights have been cancelled over the past two days with hundreds more today. rick leventhal joins us live from new york city's la guardia airport. are things better at all there today? >> yeah. vastly improved today from yesterday with two out of every flee flights cancelled here in la guardia yesterday. enough on time arrivals to make people smile here. 83% success rate at la guardia today. it's better, actually than most other airports. 579 cans lag -- cancellations nationwide. it's been another rough start to people here as they try to get

off the ground. 7,000 flights grounded since sunday. good news, major carriers allowing turnovers. the longest lines were customer assistance yesterday and today the longest lines are at security check point but they're not even that bad. not a bad day to fly. >> what about driving? the roads, are they still dangerous? >> yeah. the roads are bad. i want to take you outside just to give you a sense of how -- well, you can't feel how cold it is but it's 17 degrees at last check in new york with a wind chill of four and that freezing rain and mix that came down last night did freeze over on the roads and it's a situation you call it the flash freeze. it's too cold for the road salt to even work in some spots so the roads are icy. they're talking about black ice in a lot of spots and we have video from philadelphia where they had problems there as well. the roads icing up.

they had to delay schools and cancel hundreds of schools around the area because of the ice on the roadway. and we also had more than a foot of snowfall in parts of new york state and the northeast yesterday. in fact, we had some time lapse video where you can see how the landscape changed over time during yesterday into last night. much of the northeast blanketed. boston getting a foot and a half. they got another foot to two feet last week so rough conditions on the roads and semi rough conditions in the skies. >> all right. rick leventhal live for us thank you. >> they're looking for 95% of the community to be comboun to protect all of us and it's starting to get below that number even on something like measles that is airborne. >> right but if you've been vaccinated, you should not panic. >> you could get it but a milder form they say. >> almost like a cold. but the 10% can't go to school unless you get vaccinated. >> this is going to be a big

issue for politicians going forward. it's about big brother but on the other hand, some things involve some involvement of big brother. >> interesting conversation last night, agreeing the government should be involved in the measles outbreak the vaccination aspect of it. health official are battling more than 100 cases around the country. 14 infants said to be under quarantine in the state of california. i want to bring in the doctor that served as the 17th u.s. surgeon general and also professor at the university of arizona. with us from tucson welcome back. >> happy to be with you, bill. >> this is an active debate and both sides argue for and against. it doesn't matter, republican or democrat. let's be basic about this for the sake of our conversation now. question, why should we blef the science? >> the science is overwhelming. it's been tested over half a century. if you go back pre-1957 almost every child got measles and it was a challenge. there were a lot of complications, pneumonias, moms who were pregnant getting

infected, lots of problems. today we virtually wiped out measles because of immunization and they've been proven to be very safe and no major major complications. sometimes there are slight complications but the overwhelming evidence says this is a good practice and it saves our country a lot of money and reduces mortaility. >> but you know there are doubters and you've heard them before. why do people doubt the science, doctor? >> there's a lot of emotion and many people, when i was in office as surgeon general, many people that challenged us were talking about emotion. you know they had a child who sometime after getting immunized was diagnosed, for instance with autism and they blamed it on the vaccination. during my tenure we had several studies we looked at.was no evidence. since that time more evidences have evolved that there's no relationship. it's hard to fight the emotional response with the science. but the science is clear. all children should be immunized. not only to protect themselves and family but to protect our nation and keep health care costs down.

>> okay. you know, rand paul was asked about this. he's a doctor an ophthalmologist and by all accounts, a pretty good one, too, in his former life in kentucky. chris christie talked about, it hill kri clinton talked about it. here is rand paul specifically giving a bit more information for his position. >> i've heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. i'm not arguing vaccines are a bad idea. i think they're a good thing but i think the parent should have some input. the state doesn't own your children. parents own the children and it is an issue of freedom. >> what he said was, he did not want his kids to line up to get the vaccinations one after the other. as a doctor now, he recommended staggering these vaccinations. is that a resolution? >> it's not a resolution, bill, because already the vaccinations are actually staggered over many years depending on the

vaccination they get just for that purpose. we don't want to overwhelm the child. but the current vaccination standards are ones that are approved by the c.d.c. other organizations and the american pediatric association who study this information and the staggering is one that all the scientists have agreed on. i think, again, the challenge is becoming the individual right versus the collective right of society and clearly every mother and father should be able to weigh in ask questions and get informed consent about the risk benefits. >> that was senator paul's point. i think the parents should have the input. the state doesn't own the children. final question. what is an impact on a topic like this when national politicians get involved? >> well i hope that the national politicians speak with their surgeon general's, health directors, medical directors and get the right information. often the public gets confused because they hear public statements answering a scientific challenge. and that becomes very confusing as it was with ebola and it's starting to be confusing now.

all children should be immunized. we hope that parents would be educated and take that step on their own but the government does have a compelling interest to keep society healthy and safe and if necessary, to keep our nation safe and secure >> thank you for coming bab. it's a debate that will continue as you well know. >> it will. thank you, bill. i appreciate it. >> a lot of emotion, too. appreciate you coming back. thank you, sir. coming back very soon. >> a man put down his wallet in wal-mart and then a crook picks it up and puts in her purse and walks out. police in bakersfield, california pulled these images from surveillance cameras posting them online and go figure hours later the woman shows up at the victim's front door returns the wallet with everything still inside. >> just mentioned that she had seen herself on the media or on social media so maybe some

embarrassment or peer pressure. i can't remember a time that it's led to us -- to somebody returning the wallet, returning the lost. >> police say she's unlikely to face charges now that the wallet has been returned. >> cool. >> power of social media and perhaps a guilty conscience. >> could be. maybe number two. a major funding fight now coming to a head in washington. it might leave the men and women who protect our borders without a paycheck. >> and getting a drone's eye view of some of the most beautiful homes on the west coast.

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foot sailboat 120 miles off shore. helicopter crews able to lift all five people to safety as you see right there. nicely done. they are all a-okay. >> homeland security showdown on capitol hill. senate republicans moving to block the president's executive action on immigration, including amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. the budget fight coming to a head today as democrats threaten a filibuster. david webb is a radio talk show host and columnist for the hill and leslie marshall is a syndicated talk show host both fox news contributors. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, ladies. >> good morning. >> who wins the showdown? >> i think the american people lose if the g.o.p. doesn't care about and put the best interest of america, their security and their safety before politics and a vendetta if you will, over immigration. this goes far beyond immigration. how can we ask men and women

putting their lives on the line literally on that borderline as border patrol agents and also with a party that says we need more agents we need to secure the border? how do we do that with less funding and no paychecks to the people? this is not what america elected our politicians, left or right, to do. >> and republicans on the other hand, would say that this is not about security or d.h.s. funding, this is about overreach from the president. listen to what john boehner had to say moments ago in a news conference. >> well, i don't think anyone wants to shut down the department of homeland security. what we want to do is we want to block the president's executive actions that were beyond the law and beyond his ability to make it. >> david is this the right strategy? >> yes, it is. and this is the -- leslie wants to go to the obvious which is talk about the d.h.s. workers. republicans want to fund them

and have put proposals forward to fund d.h.s. what we don't want to do is fund obama's defacto amnesty and another 600,000 dreamers. when you look at this administration and the release of federal documents in a recent request by the center for immigration studies, this president and his administration has given work permits in some form to over 5.4 million, lifrn to that number people who come here since 2009 and over 900,000 illegals. so we've got to stop his agenda which is basically to play to his base over the interests of the american people which is security on the border, not telling our agents they should use bean balinggs against bullets but how about enforcing law and at the same time, doing the job

of the federal government which is to handle immigration safely and sanely? >> and leslie how do you justify those numbers when you talk about 5.4 million work permits for non immigrant foreigners? >> well, one of the things david does and what we do with numbers is we give the numbers that help to support our argument, right? i love you, david but let's talk about numbers of those deported, that the president is criticized by many not just on the left but in the hispanic community for. immigration has been down in this country. it's been down over -- it was immigration numbers have been down over the years. not up david. >> tell me the number. >> in addition to that in addition to that david -- >> tell me the number. you said numbers. >> when you lock at enforcing the laws on the book the federal laws on the book i agree with you. the problem is there are people in this country for longer than i've been in this country and i was born here illegally and no

politician left or right did anything about it never went after the corporations dangling the carrot of opportunity in the form of a job. so this is not by the president. this is to push congress for immigration reform which is necessary. it will be political suicide to the right if they don't address it but for the time being -- >> what about current law? >> we have a growing body of terrorists called isis and al qaeda trying to -- this is not the time to defund. >> you go the final word here. >> it's a god strategy for the american people, this matters to american security. leslie talks numbers. then she goes off into ideology. the numbers matter here. the president and this administration also count anyone turned around at the border as, quote, deported that is not actually a deportation. the numbers are fudged on that side and the reason leslie can't provide them, they don't exist

to support her argument. we have to deal with laws written and updated in 2006 2007 and have been ignored by this administration that refuses to take security as a key issue. >> have to wrap it there. thank you for joining us. vote expected in the senate tonight. we'll see what happens. thank you. >> jenna lee next on "happening now." jenna: hearing palooza in congress. we're looking at a hearing on worldwide threats and a hearing into the i.r.s. we just learned of a document dump as well so we'll get intu that. the president sent to champion the benefits of the affordable care acts at house gets set to repeal obamacare yet again plus the state trooper who helped deliver a baby that was in quite a rush on the side of the road. >> nice. >> he has good hands good catch. >> good way to start. thanks, jenna. two pilots making history. what they did that makes them in the record books and they're here to tell us how they did it

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a historic flight across the pacific in a helium filled balloon. it was a growluelling adventure starting in japan. a 30 -- sorry, 137 hour flight. record set back in 1978. it also shattered the long distance record travelling 7,000 miles ending in mexico and fewer than seven days. wow. a russian and an american, the pilots of the two eagles team and with me now out of alburquerque new mexico which is the spot for this gentlemen, congratulations and welcome here. we have a little delay here and he's getting a little bit of the russian translation off screen. i want to start with you. what do you fear when you make a journey like this? >> well the fear is real

because you're traversing a very large ocean and there's dangers involved. however, we mitigate a lot of those risks by the preparations that are involved. the balloon was built to survive going through any weather and also if we were to have to land at sea, the capsule does float and we show that it did work in that case on our landing. so we wait for the right weather pattern and that's what takes so long on a project like this. we were sitting in japan for three weeks before we finally got the right weather to launch. >> you picked the right time. what does it mean? because i've seen troy other people make long distance flights with balloons. but what's so special and different about this? >> you certainly have. yes. as a matter of fact, you know, it's already been done with the around the world with steve fossett. the difference is we're going the old school way of the gas

blown with sand bags. this is straight gas ballooning just like a kid's party balloon magnified thousands of times with sand bags. we have sand and gas. once we run out of either we're done with the flight. so it's a more challenging type of flight. >> i'll bet it is. and on that challenge, go ahead and let you answer that. what was the biggest challenge about doing something like this up in the air like that for seven day snz -- days? we'll wait for the translation from russia to english. >> the challenge was to find a weather pattern. which gave us the possibility of flight across pacific and

rather big challenge was a long duration time in japan day by day the weather forecast and prepare our needs to take off and -- >> and it worked and you guys are now in the record books to we'll see what happens. >> and ready to take off. >> complen excellent. congratulations to both men. well done. troy, thanks to you as well. thank you, man. >> thank you. >> big thanks. >> you're most welcome. heather? >> more than a dozen children in quarantine in a daycare shut down over measles. plus the renewed debate over vaccines in the wake of the dangerous outbreak. om is ready, ya know what salesman

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