>> she might be working right now. >> she's producing our one for the road. >> we love you. we're so happy for you guys. he is so adorable. wow. >> congratulations. now the fun starts. >> see you tomorrow, everybody. thanks for watching. bill: there has been swifts and lethal retribution from jordan after isis cages and burns an air force pilot alive. what is next? i'm bill hemmer. martha: i'm martha maccallum. good morning. terrible stormy as isis terrorists release a brute allan elaborate -- a brutal and elaborate video showing this jordanian pilot led through the desert. placed into a cage and lit on

fire. we won't show you these violent images but we'll have more detail on what happens in that video in a moment. bill: pane iraqi womb and the terrorists were using as a bargaining chip was hanged. martha: a top republican lawmaker says he believes king abdullah will act in a way president obama has not. >> this president is not going to act. the only reason this is different than the american beheadings is king abdullah is not barack obama and he's going to act and take the fight to isis. he has shown that over and over. bill: how else is jordan expected to react? >> reporter: jordanian officials

are taking a hard firm stance against the fight against isis. a pro-government newspaper says there should be no truce no forgiveness of isis. the government will retaliate and be strong. but in addition to executing these two individuals. including sajida al-rihawi there is no word on what jordan will do. jordan inside the country there always lot of concern about getting drawn into a larger regional war. that doesn't only apply for jordan but a lot of other countries. they have stopped for about a month now on flights over isis.

bill: what more are we learn being the video today? >> reporter: jordanian officials said they believe this was in fact the execution of mu'ath al-kasaesbeh. they say it happened january 3 a month ago in large part because jordanian officials believed he was dead. they were testing isis when they were talking about a swap to see if they could get any evidence. they were holding out hope he was alive. the video was very sophisticated. it had been produced ear offing a long period time. there were a lot of edits. it was a sophisticated video. jordanians were convinced he was killed a long time ago but they hoped they were wrong. they suspected he was killed

january 3 and it was proved to be correct yesterday. bill there are connor, thank you. martha: that 22-minute video is very released is brutal and highly produced. at times it plays like a movie or bad video game rapt early than the senseless terror act it is. shepard smith broirkt down explaining how savage and sophisticated. >> first the flames touched the hostages pants and they catch fire. then it:mowsms and ignites his -- then it moves up and ignites his shirt. he begins to jump around in the cage. then soon he covers his face with his hands. he's on fire, every bit of him.

there is canadianed music and channeling in the background and -- there is canned music and chanting. the pilot starts to walk around the maul cage. every part of him is in fire. the video is edited in slow motion. eventually the pilot collapsed to his knees and he appears to grab the cage bars with his hands, then he collapses against the bars still into the cage bars in what i what best describe in a fetal position. the hostage is black in color and hardly moving. an announcer speaks in arabic. after an edit, a large yellowish sand colored front end leermd

arrives -- front end load early end loader arrives and races its load and crushes the cage and everything in it. martha: that is the brutality what we are dealing with in this enemy. bill: jordan's king was in washington yesterday. he returned to amanda. in that room, in that meeting the president said this about stopping isis at this point. >> i think it will redouble the vigilance and determination on

the part of a global coalition to make sure that they have degrade and you you will -- degrade and ultimately defeated. >> the president says we are going to double down. well, if you double down on empty words you still end up with nothing. martha: is this a turning floirnlts theturning pointsin the tactics that will be taken against isis. congressman adam kin aadam kinsinger will be with us. bill: also a major question for

a on carter, the president's nominee to be the next defense secretary facing confirmation hearings. will he bring a different perspective to the pentagon? we'll keep an eye on that and bring you the developments. watch the questions of lawmakers. oftentimes they are just as important as the answers. martha: in the meantime an investigation is underway today after a deadly train crash on one of our country's busiest railroads. a crowded commuter train collides with an suv during the busy rush hour. six people lost their lives. hundreds of others injured and scrambling for safety. >> there was an explosion. people were trapped inside.

there were multiple fatalities. >> a passenger ran past me. he had blood on his face, people were pulling the windows off. screaming, yelling it was total panic. martha: in valhalla, new york they are dealing with the aftermath and wake of this. what do we know about the cause of this accidents? >> this is just beginning to get under investigation. but all indications at this time suggest there was some factor of human error involved in this tragedy. behind me take a look, you can see the train what remains of it. the front be carriage is concealed by the buses here. you cannot actually see the incineration that took place. tals for the accident itself, the train was traveling north

when a black jeep suv came to a train crossing. the gates came down on top of the suv. the female driver that suv exited her vehicle. the driver of the vehicle behind the suv picks up the horrific details of the story the way he saw it. >> she looks confused and gets back in the car and pulls forward. the front of the car was on the track line. but when she pulled forward she pulled right in front of the train. >> reporter: the driver of the suv were killed as were the five people in the front of the train. one witness said the train carriage was burned and charred and it was miraculous that anyone was able to get out

alive. bill: any other day it would be big news. what a sight. a heart stopping moment, this plane barely make it off the runway when that happens. plus this ... martha: what an unbelievable scene, chants of at allahu across barring shout down jewish students. will it be jordan's king who leads the charge? >> we are going to continue to put pressure on isil. these acts bring into stark

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martha: at least 23 people are lead. this plane crashed in taiwan right after takeoff. it clips the edge of the bridge and splashed into a shallow river. these are pictures from the

scene. rescue teams are trying to locate the remaining 20 people on board after collecting 15 survivors from the water. investigators are trying to figure out what sent the plane down in the first place. bill: isis may have a stronger contender in the middle east as jordan vows revenge for the brutal execution of their 26-year-old pilot. we showed you still pictures from that and only selected ones. it later shows him being burned alive. >> this is a warrior king. this is a game changer. that execution and the way it was done. the knowledge of who that pilot was, and the fact that isis continue toad move forward and execute him in that manner says that we are ready for this fight. i think they have come to a man

who is willing to give it to them. bill: people say it's a game change, they said that before. is it? >> i would like to think so after the horrific video coming out of the jordanian pilot. but i think we need to be more pragmatic. as a result of what we have seen and as a result of the brutal slaying of this pilot everybody's emotions are up. they executed two individuals. but the reality on ought ground in jordan is a lot moral difficult. -- is a lot more difficult. they have been brutalizing arabs for years. first al qaeda now the islamic state. the woman executed blew up a wedding in amman in 2005.

that angered them as have thousands of others being killed in marketplaces in baghdad and afghanistan and the middle east including jordan. but it never resulted in this game changer that we are talking about. it hasn't happened. frankly, jordan -- king abdullah can't do it without our leadership. it's not going to happen no matter what his will may be. bill: the president said during the state of the union that we'll not chase headlines. this what is said yesterday in the oval office. >> i don't know the details of the confirmations but should this video can authentic d it's one more indication of the

viciousness and barbarity of this organization. bill: saying "this organization," what does mat mean? what does that say? >> he's tepid in his approach. no matter how horrible it is you have to have an operational game plan and strategy and stick with it and not allow yourself to rise and fall with however difficult a particular moment might be. i'm not sure what gets the president upset at this point. i think the public here in america and the middle east would have liked to have seen something to indicate that we are at the point where we are going to take charge. jordan with all its current will to do something about it can't act without our support and not just us provide something logistics. not just us providing money to

the japanese because they are upset about the killing of two of their citizens. if we continue on the path we are on, nothing is going to change. we won't get that happy moment where the arab countries rise up to defeat terrorism and extremism. bill: lawmakers have been on tv all morning talking about giving them more equipment to fight this battle. but ultimately you have to have a commander-in-chief who leads you to that point. mike baker, thank you. live in pittsburgh. we'll see you again. martha: an added bonus for immigrants given amnesty. >> the congressional policy is you don't reward those who come here undocumented. martha: but the critics say

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martha: the irs is offering extra tax refunds to illegal immigrants. people granted amnesty under president obama's executive actions would be able to get

retroactive refund. it's for the money they earned while working illegally and it's for returns they filed during those years. byron, it's good to have you here. what's your take. what does this add up to to you? >> november 20, the president announces his executive action on immigration. he says if you are willing to pay your fair share of taxes you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. anage listener would hear that and think the illegal immigrants would pay taxes. but in fact the president meant they would be eligible for the earned income tax credit which is a government grant to work families up to $5,000 a year. it's essentially what is called a refundable tax credit but it's a government grant.

what we learned yesterday is that there are illegal immigrants affected by the president's edict will not only be eligible for those tax credits going forward but three years retroactively. they will be able to collect quite a bit of money from the treasury. martha: there are two evenings to -- there aretwo edges to this story. they have been paying taxes but not receiving the benefits that regular taxpayers receive is that right? >> that is right. the irs for a good while issued taxpayer identification numbers to people here in the united states illegally but are work. so they are paying taxes. there has been a long debate over whether these people should be eligible for government benefits. if you go back to the passage of obamacare, one of the arguments

the president and democrats made in favor. passing obama care was they promised that illegal immigrants would not be eligible for subsidies under obamacare. they are not right now. so the question of what government benefits if any illegal immigrants should be eligible for has been a hot question for a while. now under the president's edict they are eligible for the earned income tax credit and something called additional child tax credit going back for three years. bill: in a few moment we'll take you up to washington. ' the senate committee will start the hearings for ashton carter. what will he say about battling extremism. martha: what would ashton carter do differently as jordan plans

its next step against isis, does this change anything? >> jordan has long been pane important member of the coalition. i don't think there is any question, we have not been holding back on our efforts to degrade and defeat isil and i suspect that will continue. man: thanks, captain obvious. captain obvious: i'd get a deal for tonight with deals for tonight from hotels.com. and you might want to get that pipe fixed.

bill: a confirmation hearing getting underway for defense secretary ashton carter. john mccain's opening statement a day after the atrocity that shook headlines around the world. >> ... will be sending a letter to the administration on this issue showing our concern. there was a consensus on both sides after the meeting with

king abdullah that we would send a letter this morning. for your perusal and signature we'll get that letter out as soon as position and i thank all members of the comittee for their cooperation. if legislation is required in order to achieve the goals king abdullah articulated to us yesterday as absolutely necessary to defend his nation, we'll be considering that legislation as well as soon as possible and i thank all members. the senate armed services committee meets today to consider the nomination of ashton b. carter to be secretary of defense. i would like to express my sincere thanks to chuck hagel for his service. bill: we are waiting for ashton

carter's opening statement. it will be intriguing and interesting to hear what he has to say. >> we expect ashton carter will tell lawmakers if confirmed to be the next secretary of defense, he will make sure president obama selves the best candid military advice. but the bigger issue is if the commander-in-chief and his political advisers don't want that advice. ashton carter has a strong reputation with the armed services committee but the concern is he may lack influence at the white house which has been a familiar complaint. bill: here is martha. martha: the brutal execution of

a jordanian pilot as he is caged and burned alive. u.s. lawmakers who met with the jordanian king say they believe retribution will be ruthless. >> i think here is what has happened here. isis is going to regret this. king abdullah is not barack obama. they will increase their air sorties and increase people on the ground and hopefully they will lead from the front and they will crush isis. martha: dr. walid faris is a fox news analyst. good to have you here this morning. welcome. when you look at this video it'sing a long video that shows the savage burning of this pilot. but the whole intro duck section

lays out the united states and its muslim partners in the war against isis. lots of images of the jordanian soldiers the u.s. soldiers, the flags of both countries all of this interwoven to make the case against jordan. how do you think this event changed that dynamic if at all? >> many people have been discussing the issue of of a turning point. some say it is happening, others say it's not happening. what is a turning point? you have a large segment of arab sunni arab society in cairo, egypt, and saudi who are turning against the jihad its. who did the king of jordan execute this morning or a few hours ago not members of isis, these are members of al qaeda. it's a turning point against the

jihadjihadists. >> it's our understanding the coalition partners have been trying to find these groups to hit them where they can. but it doesn't seem to be working. >> we have a consensus by all experts as long as we don't have an area in syria or iraq and from the jordanian borders on where you will have a free syrian army against isis covered by an air force this is not going to happen. isis will continue their strike. you can take some positions isis but this won't change the strategic balance of power with isis. who is going to put the boots on the ground to find where these people are training and where they are holding hostages. there is more of this to come as we all know. >> there is a slow gradual

formation of arab countries jordan, saudi arabia and uae and egypt. but without leadership from washington to lead that force against isis, as long as we don't have that in washington, it's not going to be successful on the ground. martha: i don't think we are going to get that, do you? >> they may increase some more sorties. martha: if you are isis you are not worried because you know the united states isn't going to commit to putting boots on the ground and that will be the thing that prevents a true coalition of fighting forces of muslim nations who might want to fight back. >> the two forces we are contending against isis only one hand both know that before 201 there is no major strategic damage in washington unless

something big happens. jut they are on the offensive. both isis in syria and iraq and iran across the region. martha: it sound like you are saying it won't being with militarily it won't be. >> it is a turning point for jordan. it will take time. it may take them a few months. it will take them two years for us to have a change of policy here. martha: the burning of this pilot is significant in the muslim religion because they do not believe in cremation. that is one of the sort of base details that makes this so many worse in so many ways. >> in hundreds of years we have seen cal face the way before isis, the burning thing was against the law. there were some burnings but this is against the law.

bar * 22 minutes before the hour, there are new details from the actor from the power rangers admitting to killing his roommate. martha: you are hearing shouts of allahu akbar as a jewish student group tries to keep their college from boycotting israel. >> the positive we are going to get from this, people will see on a national stage that anti-semitism on college campuses is a serious issue. it's something that's happening right here on our college campuses.

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that device exploded, injuring a young boy. the boy saw a plastic bought on the basketball court and touched it. it explode and he suffered minor injuries. bill: the israeli supporters shouted down by pro palestinian protesters with shouts of "allahu akbar." watch. the people you see smog out of that room are the jewish group students leaving losing that vote 8-2. alan colmes and brad blakeman. wow! brad, freedom of speech, yes? first amendment yes? is this right? >> it is not right.

and freedom of speech is not without qualification. when others seek to chill or intimidate others' rights to freedom of speech, the cool has to move in. what are they going to wait for somebody to be injured or hurt? this group as i understand it alines itself with hamas which is a known terrorist organization. schools that are too liberal in their approach to freedom of speech are going to hurt themselves because they are going to invite terrorist acts on their campuses if this keeps up. >> it's despicable anti-semitism. it's possible to have a view against israel. you had a despicable act at the texas state capitol where you had muslims singing the stars

bangled banner and a self-identified christian group calling them indianaies. but to say this is septemberive either group ... bill: you have got two swastikas showing up on the side of a jewish fraternity two days later. >> it's incumbent on the admin surprised do something about it. to just allow this to occur and say it's just freedom of speech on both sides it's not. it's one side trying to intimidate the others' rights. bill: a spokesperson from u.c. davis. statements by individuals do not reflect the position of the university community as a whole. u.c. davis is built on a foundation of tolerance and inclusion and we have an obligation to teach -- to treat each

other with respect. >> they should prosecute the defacing of a building with a swastika. but free speech is free speech. the first amendment exists to protect free speech that's difficult and controversial. the school made a proper statement. >> no way. when others seek intimidator put a chill on another's freedom of speech that's where theirs ends. for the school to have a blanket policy that does not acknowledge the problem that is festering on that campus is a danger and it will only embolden those who seek to do harm to do something. >> you meet free speech with addition spall free speech. >> this wasn't free speech, that's the problem. bill: the board of regentle manage all investments -- the

board of regents manage all the investments and the students don't have a say in that. are the students yelling allahu akbar, are they protesting on campus when this jordanian pilot is burned to death? are they making and taking a stand on that? >> they have a right to protest what they choose to protest. they have a right to pick their causes. despicable as that act is as well, they have their cause and they have a right to express themselves on the causes they are passionate about. everybody has a right ... bill: were these tude protesting when this jordanian pilot was burned to death? were they out there making a statement after the beheadings went around the world?

>> i haven't seen any protests by muslim groups on college campuses. of course this is fresh news. but let's see if they rise up against the hijacking of their religion by a super minority of terrorists in the name of islam. i want to see if there are organized protests on campuses like we have seen against jews on campuses. >> when they do like they did in texas they are shouted down by groups calling them nazis. bill: there is a lot of colleges from which to choose. 12 minutes now before the hour. martha: have you heard about this? it's being called the dawn of the three parent baby. creating a child using the dna from three people is now a reality.

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martha: new england patriots getting a hero's welcome in boston. there they are getting off the planes as the city gets ready for its fourth super bowl victory parade even as it digs out from a record three-plus

feet of snow. rick leventhal is reporting live from boston. so rick, it's cold, no doubt. how is everybody doing up there? >> reporter: the fans are arriving but slowly. not nearly as many as in years past. this is actually theth championship parade since 2001. the pled sox had three and the patriots four. boston got 40 inches of snow in 7 days. that's the most ever and the city has been struggling to clear this route. we are on boylston street. it's barely enough room for people to stand two deep. the mayor also asking people to

dress in layer because it's 25 degree with the with of 15 degree. at some point maybe we'll gave look up boylston street. the team will be coming down this route on 25 duck boats the world war ii amphibious boats popular with tourists. there are no speeches scheduled for the end of this parade because the conditions are so challenging. martha: did they consider waiting until it's a nicer game? >> reporter: they thought about it but they said everybody would be on vacation by the even of this week. so they have to do it now. martha: one happy malcolm butler

on the duck boat. nobody knew his name before that amazing play. what an incredible plate was and a great great great super bowl. what a moment. bill already butler should be in the lead duck. he should be driving the truck. he could put that chevy truck in 4-wheel drive. martha: brady gave him the truck which they gave him which was nice. bill: stunning footage. a plane in its final moments airborne before a final crash. watch. the investigation into why the plane lost power only minutes after takeoff. that's remarkable. martha: jordan hits back today

after the lieutenant was brutally murder on video. how jordan plans to attack now.

>> i want to get straight to the heart of the testimony by ashton carter. let's listen. >> there is leadership. and this makes me proud and hopeful for determined to grab hold of the bright opportunities in front of us. as well as to counter the very real dangers we face. these dangers that the chairman has noted include continuing turmoil in the middle east and north africa and the malignant and saverage terrorism in the regions. ongoing war in afghanistan. the reversion to old-style security thinking in parts of europe. the long standing tension from

the past and rapid changes in asia and the continuing need for the stabalizing role of the united states in that region which is so important to the future. the continuing imperative to counter the use of weapons of mass destruction. and new dangers in new domains like cyber as noted by senator harry reid. strategy needs to keep all of these problems into perspective and craft lasting approaches to each of them. i have promised president obama that if i am confirmed i am furnish him my most candid strategic advise. in formulating that advice i

plan to work with experts and foreign partners and this committee so when the president makes a decision i will make sthur sure the department of defense implements it. i will make sure they receive candid professional military advice as well. this is not only confidant with the law as written in this committee but with good sense since our military leaders produce wide and deep expertise. the law explains the chain of command as well and if i am confirmed secretary of defense i will be a sticklar -- stickler for the chain of command.

>> secretary carter speaking there. he is raising questions about how he would do it differently than chuck hagel. he added about the malignant and savage terrorism that is iminating from -- iminateing there. and two convicted terrorist were executed at dawn as jordan realitates for the murder of one of their own at the hands of isis. a young tyrant was forced into a cage and burned alive. welcome, everybody, to a new hour of america's newsroom. i am martha maccallum. >> and i will bill hemmer. jordan fighting about the terrorist group executing a woman whose release isis

demanded. a fox news expert told us isis made a huge mistake and the tide he believes is turning against them. >> you have arabs, sunniss and muslims fighting who are turning against the jihadist. note who did the king of jordan execute this morning or two hours ago. not members of isis. these were members of al-qaeda. there is a turning point against the jihadist movement. it will take a long time put the turning point happened >> it will be a big question seeing if it changed. kathleen heritage is here this morning. >> reporter: jordan is launching new bombing raids on key isis positions in syria.

two al-qaeda prisoners have been executed in jordan before dawn. this is them leaving after the execution by hanging. one of them was alleged to be a senior member in iraq and a former top aid to the group's leader who was killed by u.s. forces. the female suicide bomber was part of the 206 plot that killed 60 at a jordanian hotel. her vest failed to go off and she was captured. this is the person they said they will swap for the two japanese pilots. isis played the 22 minute ofvideo of the man being alived on strong hold projectors with some of the crowd chanting god is great. analyst who reviewed this

believe the suspect was doused in an agent. >> you have remarkable footage of this. what more are we learning? >> reporter: fox news is reviewing these tweets that claim the jordan pilot was paraded through the stronghold of syria in a cage in late december and then executed. it is clear the jordanians are on and that is why it insisted on this before it could happen. it is clearly part of a carefully orchestrated rollout. look at this image released by isis eight days ago showing the japanese hostage who was executed is holding a photo of the pilot in the same spot as he

was burned today. the anger is spreading and there is little doubt the stakes are being raised for one hostage including one american. >> the president is using all of the available resources we have to locate anybody, particulary particularyparticulary being americans. >> president obama condemning the murder of the pilot saying it will only serve to redouble coalition efforts to defeat the terrorist group. there he is in the statement he made. but the white house continues to avoid labelling this brutally as radical islamic behavior. >> we have concerned about the radicalization efforts that are being targeted at the muslim

community. and the muslim children in particular are at great risk. they are not the only ones at risk. we talked about other violent extremist who are not muslim and carry out acts of violence and why interested in countering them as well. >> chris sty wall is the fox politics editor. you listened to the statement of him saying this is a bad thing and we will redouble our efforts. a lot of people felt his reaction was lacking when you look at the nature of the crime. and you look at josh ernest here. >> it is good they are being careful because the stakes are high but the political demand from the people they said they

serve is for order passion, feeling, for a need to express, not just the outrage because who cares what you say, it matters what you do but an implicit promise to the commander and chief to the electorate that this will be dealt with. and saying there is lots of extremism and the president was about to say the radical islam or islamic militancy and he stopped himself and said well whatever idology it is it is abrupt. when you are self-editing yourself to not say words you know you are looking through the looking glass. >> looking back at the king of

jordan's reaction to this and he said it will inspire the other nations to backlash against his element of radical islam but they need to have the leadership from the united states because the military capability in these places isn't what it needs to be. if there are no boots on the ground to find the strikes and call them in from the air the mission is too impossible without the capabilities working together. but there doesn't seem to be any evidence the administration is changing their tactics. >> no we have the promise of slow burn approach to russia we thought was going to be fine and yesterday the administration said it isn't fine and they miscalculated about that threat

to the united states and now they may have to escalate. and promise you the president all of this playing cool will be dragged, as it gets worse and as he has been time and time again the problem is when he is dragged in he doesn't stay. he does what is political nes necessary and walks away. >> we have already lost two host hostages and there are others. >> some lawmakers are calling for justice after the pilot is murdered. >> this chose the barbaric nature of the animal we are fighting. jordan has more middle east justice to come. it will be nice to see.

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>> canadian police arrested three men in charged with terrorism. >> for each charge related and each arrest we make we send a message that illustrates our strong resolve to root out terrorist threats. >> police stressed there was no immediate threat to the public and the efforts were focused on oversea activities. canada was hit in november by two terrorist attacks. jordan hanging two people in response to the brutal killing of one of their pilots.

video of the pilots death hit the internet and the pentagon is calling it a grim reminder of why we keep up the fight. >> these brutal murders -- i cannot. there is no way i could figure out how to justify it in your brain. it is so twisted. it certainly isn't -- we are not the acts of them. >> illinois congressman with me from the hill. good morning to you. we have been asking a question all morning about whether a lot of people have said this is a game-changer. maybe it is. maybe it isn't. what do you think? >> well i think it is possible. i think we are missing an opportunity, and the president is if he doesn't see it as a game-changer and take the allies

in the middle east and unite them with the and crushing of isis with the first and foremost goal. i think what the president hasn't articulated is the strategy in syria. that is not the process of how you destroy the cancer in syria. we see this terrible burning of this pilot being done in syria, we believe, and this is going to continue. >> you know what he said at the state of the union? he said he doesn't chase headlines. if that is his case and his position, why would you expect anything to change? >> that is the problem. i don't think he is chasing isis either. maybe this is the thing. maybe seeing this brutality.

i hoped the president watched the video. i watched it. it brings home the satanic nature of the individual we are dealing with. my concern is the president said i am going to manage this problem for the next two years and let the next person which in. but it is going to be dealt with in a big way and the president needs to compare the american people for this inevitability. >> we are seeing the outrage in jordan, what if they burned an american in a cage? what then and what would the response be? can you imagine the anger in this country if that happened? they would have to be ready to respond. >> we don't know how many people they have captured or will capture in the future, and if they are willing to burn a man

alive who is aware of the fact he is alive, they would do this to anyone. this is a flavor of islamic jihadism that the entire moderate muslim company ought to be standing up against. and muslims should say this doesn't represent what we believe. this maybe the point where isis overstepped >> the king of jordan was meeting with the house and some of the senate met up with him. do you know what he is asking for or what we can do now if he is going to take the lead in some aspect? >> i am sure the king and i didn't hear him say this wants the united states to step up and take a leadership role. we are the most powerful country in the world.

i know we are tired but we have unique capabilities. it doesn't mean we need 200,000 troops on the ground. but we have to bring them together to create a fierce alliance. isis can't stand from troops on the ground and american war power. >> republican from illinois thank you. a couple moments ago ashton carter asked the question what is the strategy against isis. we will play his answer for you which i think you will find interesting and get ralph peter peter's response. >> also, conceiving a child from possibly three parents.

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moments ago, the nominee for the defense secretary, was asked what our strategy is to beat isis. here is what he said: >> i believe understand our strategy at this time mr. chairman, i also have the intention, again, if confirmed, to make it my first priority to go there to talk to our leaders and military leaders. >> what do you under the strategy to be? >> i think the strategy connects

ends and means and our ends with respect to isil need to be its lasting defeat. i say lasting because it is important when they get defeated they stay defeated. and that is why it is important that we have those on the ground there who will ensure they stay defeated. >> that was his answer to what our strategy is. we will break it down with colonel ralph peters. and lawmakers of england are now moving to allowing the creation of babies using the dna from three different adults. we have a doctor here to discuss

this from nyu. more about the medicine ethics and religion involved. where are you on this? >> i don't consider this to be three parents. i want that clear. i think it is two parents. they are using the nucleus, the brain of the cell, let's talk about that as the brain. the brain is staying intact. if i transplanted bill hemmer's brain into someone else it would still be bill. they are replacing the heart here. the miotor is faulty in the cell and they are replacing the motor with a new motor they are getting from someone else. but the motor or heart -- when dick cheney got a heart transplant it is still dick cheney. i say two parents with faulty machinery in the cell. it is dicy if you make the

repair it will work for succeeding generations. that is a new thing with it never being done. in other words, if i fix the cell the children of that person is not going to have that problem. i am against designer babebies.ies. i don't want to alter hair or eye color change. >> when you mention designer babies -- is that what you are doing? >> no we are fixing a tragedy. this kid looks so weak. a terrible life. if we can fix it medically i am for it. it is right on the line of what i think it is ethically okay. we are fixing stuff not changing the nature of life. >> you spoke to a well-known

doctor today. what did he say? >> he started doing this in 2003 and he was blocked. but since that time it has worked in primates/monkies and he is endorsing what the british is doing. they said it might not be safe back then but it is looking like it is safe. >> what do you say about the catholic church and the other organizations against it? >> i say i respect their opinion if it went half a step further i would be against it. i am a religious person. but in this case it is science not religion. >> interesting topic. they still have to pass this so we will see if that happens. >> the brutality of the latest

isis video making it crystal clear they need to be stopped. >> what they did to that jordanian pilot, who just gave their life for the country, is grotesque we should not allow that to happen. we have got to figure out, and we talked about a bunch of things to try to do but the first thing is to declare what we are fighting. >> will this evil act be a game-changer? that is the big point of discussion and what is our strategy. and cool story here. history on ice. a dare devil climbing up an iconic landmark. >> i am an ice climber. i travel all over the world and climb frozen water falls. i just climbed the biggest one in the whole world.

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the strategy connects ends and means. and our ends with respect to isil needs to be its lasting defeat. i say lasting because it is important when they get defeated they stay defeated. and that is why it is important that we have those on the ground there who would ensure they stay defeated once defeated. >> got it? that is the strategy. according to ashton carter the defense secretary nominee, who explained his answer to the question: what is our strategy for defending isis. his conformation is underway and the head of the committee, the chairman, after giving the

answer john mccain said something like that answer was long and rambling and all over the place but we hope we will get more specifics about your take, ashton carter, on what our strategy to defeat isis is. job peters is here -- ralph -- and you listened to the answer to the question. what did you make of it? >> the secretary's answer respected obama's strategy well. it was unfocused, rambling confused and not effective. i think there is hope for carter but they can't say the word kill even. we face enemies who burned that young pilot alive behead people massacre people by the hundreds, behead children for watching a soccer match and we

cannot utter the four letter word -- kill. unless you are willing to kill and exterminate the hard core extremist you lose >> i have to wonder what carter's answer would have been a few days ago in a private setting. he is appearing in that answer and he has two more hours and we'll play any more answers to this question but every time whether it is a press briefing or whatever any member is tongue tied when asked the question about how we will go about it except the former dia head who is now no longer with the administration who seemed clear on the matter. here he is in an interview with charley rose. >> you have to define the enemy or you cannot defeat it.

he is facing an islamic religious extremist organization and isis is a part of this. this is broader than that. much broader and more dangerous than al-qaeda. far more dancegerous. call it like it. islamic extremist -- >> no matter how many times he is pressed he has the same answer. >> i have known mike flint for 30 years. he has paid more dues than every member of the auto member in history. he has seen the devil first hand and he was pushed out of the dia was he would not play the administration's game. he fought for what is right and the obama's answer was to sideline the guy. it is bigger than any one

individual. when you heard ash carter and other members of the administration trying to describe the problem but the reason they can't describe the strategy is because the president doesn't have a strategy. we just want to get through 2016. a strategy looks at the years ahead and the alternatives. it is a serious business and this isn't a serious administration. i am tired of hearing the president, and all of the president's men and women, saying the islamic state is bankrupt. we are bankrupt not them. >> what do you think about carter's position? how do you think he is going to

fair when he tells them what he thinks? >> ash carter is going it to be confirmed because everybody on the hill realizes he is the best. before being nominated, others turned it down because they knew obama would look over them. no one wants a do-nothing job. but it means a lot to carter. when i listen to the hog wash in the town -- they are saying the burning of that young man is a turning point. it might have been for the president's regime but the thrown wasn't -- throne -- that strong. fox news alert. news from overseas. dozens are dead or missing after

a plane crash in taiwan. a crash that was recorded on dashcam video. this is a transasian flight with 58 passengers and crews on board. loosing power, turning on its side hitting a taxi with its left ring, crashing into a river and landing upside down. david piper is reporting from bangkok. how did this happen? what are the clues? >> reporter: that amazing video captured there by the dashcam is showing us. it was all over in a split second with the plane veering across this elevated highway. when you look closer you can see they hit a taxi and the side of a bridge and parts of the plane were left on top of that elevated highway. perhaps the most amazing thing is perhaps more than a dozen

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there was a train crash in northern new york yesterday evening where six people were killed on a commuter train colliding with a jeep on the tracks. we are waiting to hear why and how this happened. in a matter of minutes. locals call us the party of the big business but they continue to increase the burden and complexity of taxes and regulations so only the big and powerful and the wealthy and the well-connected can survive. >> very interesting. that is former hewlett packard ceo carly fiorina speaking to the crowd. she spoke about her own story and how a young women in america started at a secretary in a

nine-person real estate business and went on to be the chief executive of the largest company in the world. carly fiorina is here. good morning to you. >> good morning. nice to be with you. >> it is great to have you. i rewatched the speech and you had a lot of attention from the people in the crowd. and obviously you had a ton of business experience but you were speaking to small businesses across america who suffer and complaint about the regulations. >> 70% in fact, 70%, describe government hostile to them and we are destroying more businesses than creating for the first time in u.s. history so more small businesses are failing and less are starting and they employ half of the people and innovate at seven times the rate of big businesses

and this is why the economy is continuing to underperform. >> i feel like so many people washington have never worked in businesses. you are known as being a ceo primarily but you are talking about something that is not getting a lot of attention but it is on the minds of many people. >> it is because they see it in their own communities. washington, frankly, under republicans and democrats, has become a place of big government, big business and big labor. but it is not working for the majority of folks. i think what i also touched on is we have so many people trapped in a tangle web of dependence and they cannot get out. and what i know is that every person wants to live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning. we are at at point where the weight of our government honestly is crushing the hopes

and dreams and the promise of lots of people in america and lots of businesses. >> the other side of the coin people would say would be people who are receiving what the government is handing out will never elect anyone who threatens to take that away from anyone. >> i think that is disrespectful and dismissive of those people. if you look at the economic choice a mom of two kids trapped in the web of dependence if you look at the choices she has to make to get herself out, it is terrible and difficult. that is why we have to reform government to slash through not just the taxes and regulations but this web of dependences that prevents people from living a life of dignity. >> if you decide to run and i understand you will make the decision over the next few months, how do you stand out?

your numbers are lower on the list of the polls right now which i don't think has a lot of meaning at this stage, but how would you break out? >> i would say most people don't know me. i have not been in politics my whole life and i think people think that might be an advantage but i need to spend a lot of time getting out and about. the other thing i know and will continue to get out is i am conservative because i think our policies work better for every american and every person. i think we have to land those policies and principles and values in people's lives. if you are that single mom you don't know why smaller government and less taxation is good were you. >> i hope to talk to you soon. good to see you carly fiorina,

thank you for coming on. >> thanks for coming me. jon scott is standing by waiting in the wings. how are you? good morning. >> i am doing well. a reeling nation of jordan responds to the release of the video showing a pilot burned alive by isis. the question is is the united states doing enough to help jordan? our ally in the fight against terrorism. and a horrible plane crash caught on tape as the investigation into what went wrong commences, what lesson can we learn? we will have that happening next. >> see you in about ten minutes. if you think going over the falls is hard try going up it frozen. meet the man who just made history and wonderful pictures from a guy with a lot of guts. he is next.

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>> i have not fallen off and i would like to get one more day where i don't fall off. i will be honest. butterflies. >> nice. meet a man who just made history becoming the first person to ever scale a frozen section of niagra falls. climbing from the frozen base of the river with the thunderous falls away. will gad is in the studio with his red bull hat on.

congrats. why was this difficult? >> it is the largest water fall in the world. it is a lot of water and if things go wrong you end up with the entire falls on your head which would suck. and then you have to get permits. it was eight months of work to get them all. >> and it seems so unpredictable. what is changing around you? >> the ice is frozen on to the wall i am climbing so it changes with pieces breaking off. it is a rowdy place. >> how do you get ready from a that? >> it started with my dad growing up in the rockies and i have been training and climbing ice for 30 years to get ready for this. >> national geographic called you man of the year? >> adventurer of the world.

but this was for flying over the rockies in a way that hasn't been down. >> what do you do your down time? >> make waffles for my kids. >> but you have thinking about the next ride? what is the next one? >> i'm going to ski across the crack in antartks iraqis cricksantartkstica and skate over the ice cracks there. >> this looks like hell frozen over out there.

>> the park service is protected. people are doing western things on the edge of the falls. >> that area is off limits? they allowed you to do it? >> oh yeah it look -- took -- a lot to get their approval. >> you have a good sales man. look forward to having you back. >> thank you so much. >> back to today's top story as the calls are growing in jordan regarding the man burned into cage alive. and jordan's government is vowing to escalate the war on isis. a live report straight ahead. good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda.

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sorry. we're past that. >> we're past that. fully inflated balls, winning game, done. >> cool. you know, it could be 70 degrees below zero and they would still pull out the stops. god -- good to have you back martha. >> fox news alert on two catastrophes at home and overseas. deadly crash of a trans asia plane in taiwan caught in tape as we get reaction from witnesses who saw the disaster as it happened. jon: the terrifying dash cam video showing the turbo prop, clipping a taxi and then cartwheeling into the river. the crash killing at least 25 people with the death toll expected to rise. just north of new york city at the height of rush hour a dead l deadly accident.