." if you petty fog, i can get a little testy. ms. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, two big stories raising questions about trust in this administration. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the white house meeting with muslim leaders just hours ago. and now it refuses to tell the american people exactly which muslim leaders were there. why? second we just learned a key player in the coalition against isis bailed a month ago. a fact the administration misrepresented repeatedly. radical islam raised its head in a new and horrifying way this week when the terror group isis released video of a jordanian air force pilot locked in a cage and burned alive. so when the white house said the

threat from isis was on the agenda in a meeting with muslim leaders late today, we asked who was there from what groups and how they might help. but the administration is now refusing to say more. we'll have more on that in moments. but first, to the stunning admission that a country hailed as a key player in the fight against isis the united arab emirates or uae, has bailed. not today, but a month ago. and not only were we not told about it when it happened, but for the last month the white house and the pentagon have gone out of their way to praise the uae's military efforts as though it was still in the fight. we have team coverage tonight with general tom mcinerney shepard smith in jordan and najid. we begin with ed henry about the uae story. >> reporter: bottom line administration officials have been putting out press releases for several weeks suggesting the

uae was conducting air strikes. we know that was not true. white house spokesperson josh earnest said they may have been referring to the fact united arab emirates had been previously helping out with these air strikes and they weren't referring to what was happening in the current time. what's interesting though is that the uae wants more sophisticated search and rescue assets to make sure if their pilots crash they will not wind up like that jordanian pilot who so tragically was executed. we pressed josh earnest today on whether there are other arab nations like the uae that may now be pulling out. here's what he said. >> well, again, i'm going to let the individual countries speak to the details through day by day accounting of their military activities and their participation in the military operations. >> now remember back in september the president when he announced that air strikes were being expanded into syria not just iraq, against isis, he said it was very important to have nations like the uae on board.

so this was not just a western face behind air strikes. at the time he said "this was american leadership at its best." megyn. >> ed henry thank you. joining me with more, general mcinerney. he's now a fox news contributor. general, good to see you. so now they're suggesting, maybe it was reporting on stuff they used to do. but i'm looking at the centcom reporting. february 1, 2014 it's still on the website u.s. and military forces have continued to attack the islamic state in syria and iraq. coalition nations conducting air strikes include the uae. that was not true. so why did the uae bail and why wasn't it represented truthfully to us? >> well surprise the administration lied to us megyn. but the reason they bailed at least what they said was because there was no what we call combat search and rescue

close by that could have for instance helped rescue the jordanian pilot when he went down. and that's true. i've checked different sources, megyn, and their csar efforts are at the very best minimal. and we're putting pilots at risk. they don't see a determined u.s. air effort against saddam hussein during desert storm we had 1,100 sorties a day. against saddam hue say in '93 we had 800. we are flying seven-strike sorties a day now. it isn't even pinpricks. and i think that the uae is seeing this halfhearted effort by the united states is not really doing what needs to be done. don't have leadership. >> this is one of the partners that was the most willing. it has been the united states most stal worth arab ally.

it was one of the first to join. we can't even keep the partner who is are the most eager to help in this coalition battle. >> i rest my case counselor. that's exactly right. they are looking for leadership. and unfortunately the american leadership is not there today. and you're seeing the results because of that. we need to step it up and really conduct an air campaign and go against isis. and we can do that if we have the will and the leadership. >> i know you believe that only the arabs can defeat this ideology of radical islam. but it needs real leadership. and you as a retired general on the art of war. >> yes but the fact is why do i say that? if muslims defeat muslims, it is different than if infidels defeat them. so it must be the muslims and the arab states that defeat this radical ideology. we could do it and we could do it very quickly, but we are where we are like after iraq and

afghanistan. so let them do that. we will be the supporting forces. we can have certain ground forces for air controllers et cetera. but they must do the lion's share of the work megyn. >> and i read in your pre-interview, know thy enemy and di vise a strategy to defeat it. thank you, general. >> thank you, megyn. >> we're getting reports critical arab allies are complaining about the alarming rise of this terror group. isis loyalists launched sophisticated attacks not just in iraq and syria, but in egypt and stormed the capitol of libya killing an american. yet just this weekend president obama suggested this administration is doing everything possible to contain these terrorists. >> help this grade school is what you say to defeat isis happen more quickly. could we be doing more? >> anything we're doing -- anything we could be doing savannah, we are doing. >> in a "the kelly file" exclusive i had a chance to speak just before we came to air

with republican congressman devin nunez. he's the new chairman of the senate intel committee and as such he is briefed on some of the nation's top secrets. mr. chairman, thank you very much for being here. let's start with that. is the president correct when he says everything we could be doing we are doing to fight this group? >> well nothing could be further from the truth. in fact, he's not even admitting who the enemy is or where the enemy is even located. you just mentioned about the attack in sanai the attack in libya. we have no plan in place to deal with isis there, radical islam there. this is an ongoing threat that i feel i have an obligation not only to the congress but to the american people that we have intelligence, we know that isis is in north africa -- >> so when the white house suggests that we're brushing isis back, when the administration talks about how we've sort of stopped their advance in iraq and syria, you're telling us that isis is actually growing and it's

growing in the region. it's not just iraq and syria. where specifically? and what areas most concern you? >> a lot of the fighters are coming -- in iraq, are coming from north africa. they're also coming from europe. but they're now transiting back. so now they're causing problems in places like egypt in the sanai, places like libya. so just in the last even today or just a few hours ago i met with both egyptians and libyan who is are begging for the congress's help because they're not getting anywhere with the white house or the state department in terms of actually the president admitting that al qaeda/radical islam/isis is running amuck in their countries. >> what specifically do they want that we are not providing? i mean we've heard this now about jordan, that they want more from us. and we heard last night we're not providing it. and we heard that confirmed today although the white house suggests it's helping.

now egypt, libya. what do they want we're not giving? >> we are helping jordan tremendously. we can definitely do more. but when you get to places like iraq and the kurdish area. if it weren't for two reporters getting their heads cut off, i don't think this white house would have ever engaged. and our closest ally in iraq, the folks we would have been able to count on, the kurds, would have been completely overrun. >> when you listen to the white house they seem to suggest this is a problem we have to deal with iraq and syria. and they're dealing with it. every time these generals like they did last week going before the senate armed services committee to say these are three retired four-stars who said we need to name it what it is this enemy. radical islam. and we need to come up with a comprehensive global strategy to fight it. and if we don't we're going to be in a lot of trouble. but when you say that the administration says we can't send 200,000 troops in everywhere and start you know unleashing the u.s. military on every conflict. that's not how things work. it's a slow process. it takes time. and we're focused on the right

area. >> well you could at least get weapons to the kurds. that might be a good place to start. the flow of weapons to the kurdish area's been very slow, very, very weak. they've been in to see me. they're very frustrated. nobody's calling for 200,000. in fact, i don't think there's even a plan. maybe we need to have our military leaders come up with a real plan to battle this globally. that way you can actually start to once you admit you have a problem, then you can find solutions to that problem. >> let's talk about that. because the former head of the d.i.a., the defense intelligence agency, was on with charlie rose last night and talked specifically about his personal belief about why we are not meeting this challenge. here's what lieutenant general flynn told charlie rose. >> my personal belief on this is our failure to understand the deeply held religious beliefs that these guys have and how they are interpreting it and how

they are acting it out. that failure to understand this really very you know, menacing ideology has really led us to really sort of a mismatch in how we are executing a strategy and how we are executing even some of our campaign plans on the military side. >> your thoughts on that. >> so look when you go back to the campaign president obama ran on he'd killed bin laden and al qaeda was on the run. and i believe what general flynn referring to is really in fact they made up this name core al qaeda. they had defeated some of the core al qaeda guys, the main planners. but when you stretch it out from there, they failed to recognize that al qaeda was really growing and in fact many people now refer to isis as al qaeda 6.0. all of this has now led to the spread of radical islam because you're still dealing with millions of young men with no job and no hope for any future.

and then no leadership coming from the united states of america which leaves us now in a very vulnerable position moving forward. >> congressman devin nunes, good to see you sir. thank you for being with us. >> always a pleasure. >> we have new details just ahead on the meeting the president held late today with apparently a secret group of muslim leaders because we don't get to know who was there. plus, while most of the world watched in horror as isis burned alive a jordanian pilot, these folks were cheering. up next, a former islamic extremist about how best to fight a threat like this one. hat chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement.

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breaking tonight, the entire senate armed services committee has written a letter to the white house suggesting the situation in jordan and the terror fight at large "demands we move with speed to provide some much-needed support to people helping battle this terror army." earlier i spoke with shepard smith who is in amman, jordan tonight. >> reporter: megyn, the king of jordan came right home. and while he was in the air on his way back to amman that's when they executed the two prisoners pulled from the jordanian jails. when the king did arrive, he arrived to hundreds of people welcoming him. and there seemed to be a new show of unity. jordan has been very much

divided about this fight with isis. the people of jordan have been. many of them are of the belief that isis would never have existed had the united states not toppled saddam hussein's regime. and further the people here believe there are many different reasons why amman and jordan itself should not be involved in the fight against isis. but since the execution of this jordanian hero, certainly much of the public sentiment has changed. there were crowds in the streets all wednesday morning and later in the day on wednesday many people went home shops didn't open. the streets were much quieter than your average wednesday in amman and really very much a sense of mourning. they still have not heard from the king publicly since he returned. many are waiting to hear what he'll have to say whether jordan will become more actively involved as the king has promised in the war against isis and if so how, megyn. >> shepard, i heard you report earlier today many people say they'll never get over watching what they saw on that tape. and i can't help but wonder if

you are one of them after we played your compelling narrative, a thing you watched of course you did not want to do but did for purposes of journalistic reporting. it's obvious it was hard on you and you did a brilliant job reporting it to the rest of us. how are you affected by that a day later? >> well that's a human being. and i think it was bret baier who said you can't un-see it. and you can't. it's part of you. and it certainly brings into context exactly what these people are. but, megyn, that is not to say that murder is any more significant than the chopping off of the previous heads or the word now that they have executed children, sold some into slave trafficking. the list goes on and on and on. there's no question that isis has to be stopped. the question is what's the best way to do it. and how do you keep from drawing this region into a more regional conflict that explodes, and i think there's a great deal of debate about that.

and that debate warranted among many here hope in jordan is that this very explosive event, this very burning to death of one of their own does not cause them to make decisions too quickly and cause them to make mistakes they regret. >> that was professionalism on display on your part last night, shep. thank you for doing what many of us did not want to do. we appreciate it. >> of course. >> well, shepard and many others watched that video in horror. "the kelly file" has obtained footage of isis supporters in syria who had a very different reaction. they're cheering it. among the jubilant crowd, this young boy who told a photographer that he would have burned that pilot with his own hands if given the chance. that's isis right there. the next generation. a former islamic extremist himself and now an antiextremist

crusader. you look at that boy and know what he wants to do. and one questions how can we have him chart a course like yours where there's a reversal as opposed to the one he intends? >> well i think, megyn primarily we have to focus on prevention. it's more quicker, more efficient, more conducive to results to work to prevent the next generation joining them. and that really does require for our leaders both within muslim communities across the world but also our political leaders including president obama to be able to name the threat. and, you know i've been frustrated for a long time because, you know, we can't have it both ways. if i can't put a liberal background myself, if we don't want a return of invasion of countries to war on the one hand on the other hand we're saying civil society needs to

take a lead in challenging this ideology, yet we don't name this ideology. there's a void there in the middle. >> and general flynn when talking to charlie rose saying we don't want to acknowledge any connection to islam yet these prisoners at gitmo are given qurans and bin laden was given a proper muslim burial. so why can't we acknowledge that it's not mainstream islam but it's radical islam and it is festering in many more places besides iraq and syria? >> megyn what i fear is a bit like a harry potter scenario where he who must not be named, everyone fears him even more. when we don't name the islamist ideology people who don't naturally know about my own religion islam will think it's the religion itself. i plead the president and at the sake of 1.4 billion muslims in the world, we must name this extremist ideologies people know it's not the same as traditional islam and we isolate the

extremists and galvanize the majority against them. that would require some leadership, but unfortunately i don't see too much of that. >> maajid good to see you sir. we have chris stirewalt next on the white house's refusal to name the muslim leaders. that's their world. these are leaders in the community. who met with the president late today. wait until you hear who they did choose to put on display. plus howie kurtz weighs in on whether newscasts should show the horrifying new terror video or frames from it. and breaking news tonight on brian williams and how the nbc news anchor is tonight admitting that a battlefield story he has told for years is completely made up. >>

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group of muslim leaders at the white house to discuss what the white house called a range of issues, the administration is now refusing to identify exactly who was there. saying they are "not public officials and deserve their privacy." chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor and joins me now. so they're because they're not public officials we doept get to know who they are. and yet earlier tonight at the white house he had a group of dreamers private citizens all of whom were touted in front of the television cameras and identified. so why don't we get to know who these leaders are? >> well, i'm afraid to say i can only think of two possible explanations. one is that the president has a low opinion of some of his countrymen who despite no evidence that i'm aware of that there are current violence being carried out against muslim-americans that by identifying these people he would make them subject to some sort of an american lynch mob, which would be a pretty low estimation of his countrymen

indeed. or number two, he doesn't want us to know who was there. >> uh-huh. >> but by my reckoning it has to be one of those two things. either a lynch mob acoming or doesn't want to know who's there. >> let's talk about possible suspects. number one, we want to know if cair was there. this organization has been identified as a terrorist by one of our allies and very controversial here in the united states. and its support for hamas which we also recognize as a terror group has been well documented. so was anybody there from cair? we don't know. and then sheikh bin -- who's been to the white house before. >> we don't know we could assume the best assume the worst, but you point out the track record is not ideal. when you have a person who's been to the white house before and involved with associated with a group that essentially said it would be right and just for american invaders in iraq to be killed, when you've got that

track record it would be easy to jump to some very negative conclusions. >> this is the guy -- the state department tweeted out something he wrote because now they're saying he's educating folks on how to win the hearts and minds of muslims who would be radicalized. the state department tweeted some of his writings not long ago and then they had to take it down and apologize for doing that. not long after that the president went before the united nations and cited him himself. the president seems to have no trouble citing this man, meeting with this man at the white house. and it's been very controversial. and that's among the questions was he there. who was there? so what's really going on here the day after we see this video of this jordanian pilot being burned to death. i realize this was a preset meeting. is this -- don't we deserve to know more about what was said and to whom? >> well, at the very least we could be spare the sanctimony by

this administration. a crucial moment between the u.s. -- right now we are at the crux of the issue. so we might at least be spared all of the sanctimony poured out among the press about transparency from this administration when they make quite a point of not being transparent. and why not just save the time for goodness sakes. >> this is a critical part of the strategy. the obama white house has said repeatedly what we need to do is rally the hearts and minds get muslim leaders in america and elsewhere start speaking out against isis speaking out against radicalization and so on. so why can't we know what the messaging was? why don't you bring the tv cameras in there instead of just in with the dreamers? so we can all be a part of the conversation. >> but also, who does he think, who does the president believe are good emissaries for that message? while we might not ever know what he said if we knew the people, we might know the kinds

of individuals the president wants to empower with his message to go out into this small but growing muslim community to be his ambassador. who are the people he thinks match up with his message? that might tell us about the message. it's not just germane. this could help us understand exactly what it is the white house is trying to do because if we know who they're doing it through, we'll find out more about what the message is. >> more on this tomorrow undoubtedly. chris, good to see you. >> you bet. right after this break howie kurtz weighs in on whether newscasts should show this horrible video of the pilot being burned alive. even still frames of it, which have been controversial. on another note, he has breaking news tonight on brian williams and the nbc anchor admitting tonight that a battlefield story he told as recently as this past friday on the air was flat out untrue. plus, with the media continuing to beat up some republicans over

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burned alive in a horrific isis propaganda video. even though the uae pulled back its air power in december the white house and pentagon were still claiming that the uae was a fully committed partner in this military coalition conducting air strikes as late as last friday. when asked for why they did that, they referred reporters to the uae. watch for more fallout on this tomorrow as well. also tonight fox news made a decision today that garnered a lot of attention. our channel's website, foxnews.com decided to post the video made by isis. video which showed a jordanian pilot which i just mentioned captured by the islamic state being burned alive. we were not alone in that decision. nor our decision as a channel last night to show a stillframe of this man's actual murder when the flames first engulfed him. but there's a debate over

whether this is the way you cover a group like isis. joining us now, host of media buzz, howard kurtz. several news outlets showed the stills of this pilot's murder. fox news channel didn't show the channel but the dot com posted it. where do you stand on what ought to be aired? >> megyn, i see the argument on both sides. i understand the case that we ought to show the pure evil that is isis. and i thought our colleague bret baier handled it judicially by showing a couple still images. but i disagree with the fox decision and here's why. isis -- i fear many of the us in the media are helping isis spread its propaganda using its fear tactics. and i felt the same way with the beheading images almost became wallpaper for every story about isis. when that became familiar, these terrorists, butchers, went to the more sick and depraved and barbaric method of burning a man

to death. and i just have a concern that we are helping spread the fear that isis so badly wants to spread. >> you know, generally on this program i have a sort of personal philosophy of going toward the light. what that means to me personally is you don't have to show the worst of the bar bareties because people want to get the news but don't want to be reminded every moment of the worst of human nature. however, we made a decision to show one still last night of the flames as they began to engulf this man. and the reason we as a show decided to do that was it's as if we're in world war ii, howie, and there was a chance to see inside the concentration camp and inside the gas chamber as the horror was happening. and at some point in this battle do we not have to just remind people of the enemy we face? i'm not saying every night and every atrocity but at some point don't we need to be reminded of what it is we face

unless unless we be accused later of ignoring that enemy and not doing enough to combat it. >> or you could do as you pointed out earlier which shep smith did is describe in detail and not show it. i don't have a great problem with showing a single image and doing it on one night. my problem is with the constant showing of the images just before the beheading that i think almost served as a recruitment posted for isis. on the business of foxnews.com making the video available, i'm more comfortable with that because people can choose to click or not to click. if somebody wants to see that, if they want to see the horror that was this murder that has galvanized the world, they can choose to do so. but to be honest part of me also says why are we making it easier for people to see this monstrous footage? >> they issued a statement today saying we've given readers of foxnews.com the ability to see it themselves and felt that far outweighed the legitimate

concerns of the graphic nature of the video. howie, there was bizarre news with brian williams making a stunning admission. now, this relates to a report that he issued saying that helicopter he was in with an nbc news team back in 2003 had been shot down a report he offered as recently as friday. in a nice way he was trying to praise the american military group that protected the nbc news team but now it turns out it was not true? >> it's completely untrue. and it is very difficult for me to fathom why brian williams the anchor of the top-rated network newscast, the face of nbc news would tell the story on the air at this ceremony about being shot down back in 2003 in a helicopter over iraq. yes, he was in a helicopter over iraq. and as he accurately reported 12 years ago, another chopper was hit by an rpg and went down. his helicopter landed perhaps an hour later according to what some veterans are telling stars and stripes newspaper they did

not like williams saying he was on the chopper that was hit. it was a sandstorm and he was grounded for a couple days. i give him credit for going to iraq, he's been there a couple times. it is difficult to understand and he has apologized and blamed the fog of memory. but come on, if your helicopter was shot down, that's a life changing event. it either happened or didn't happen. it's very hard for me to understand how he could make that mistake. and i have to be candid and say major blow to his credibility and that of his network. >> this is what he said i want to run what he said. this is what he said on friday when he was trying to praise the military for helping him in his supposedly downed chopper. listen. >> the story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of iraq when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an rpg. our traveling nbc news team was rescued, surrounded and kept alive by an armored mechanized platoon from the -- >> tonight he did a full mea

culpa and said i can't believe that i was so confused. i've sort of con flated the two stories. will there be fallout on this? >> i think there will be tremendous fallout on this given brian williams' prominence as an anchor, he's the longest serving network news anchor. and if it had been a question where a couple details were exaggerated or fudged i think people would be willing to forgive that. >> but this doesn't seem in defense of brian williams, as bad as that. it seems like he made an honest mistake as his accurate reporting back in 2003 would suggest. >> well, i've interviewed brian williams dozens of times. he's always been a straight shooter with me. but i have to in the role of media critic say it may be an honest mistake, but it's an inexplicable one because of the life changing nature of having your helicopter shut down. somebody else's helicopter shut down, i'm sure that was traumatic. but he wasn't on that helicopter. >> howie, good to see you. >> same here. with some media outlets

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developing tonight california lawmakers proposing legislation that would require parents to vaccinate all school children unless a child's health would be in danger. california you may recall is ground zero in the recent measles outbreak. the issue's been all over the headlines this week, not only for health concerns but political reasons after a pair of potential 2016 candidates weighed in on a parents right to choose whether or not to vaccinate. my next guest is urging all parents to immunize their children. he too is a republican presidential candidate louisiana governor bobby jindal who is a republican who has extensive experience in the health care industry previously serving as assistant secretary for the health and human services. good to see you tonight governor. this is one of the items that made a lot of news this week. rand paul said the following. >> i've heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with

profound mental disorders after vaccines. >> do you agree with that? >> i don't. and first of all megyn thank you for having me on. thank you also for your courage to speak out and encourage every parent to have every child vaccinated. look, i don't think our elected leaders, i don't think political leaders, should be undermining people's confidence in their doctors and science. i'm glad all three of my children are vaccinated, i'm glad they go to schools where they mandate other children are vaccinated. it's not just good for our children but is good for public health. we don't need republicans or democrats to confuse this issue. >> does this become a sticky issue as some have claimed because republicans tend to be the party of small government, don't like big brother getting involved in their lives yet here are so many saying this is an area they should be controlling. >> megyn you've got president obama and hillary clinton, they've said nuanced and different things about vaccines they've flip-flopped they've

changed their minds, you've got democrats and republicans said various things about vaccines. this is just common sense. no surprise that the liberal media hypocritical said some things including our current president and secretary clinton who wants to be president, it's not surprising to me the left it denies science denies truth. they've done it when it comes to the environment, when it comes to energy. they deny math when it comes to the debt and taxes. but look energy and the environment is the left denying the truth in science. this shouldn't be controversial. vascular this is pretty straightforward. vaccines are proven safe. they help to protect the public at large. this should just be -- there shouldn't be a political football. we need politicians to stop confusing the issue, stop trying to undermine people's confidence. listen to a pediatrician, not a politician. >> not to jenny mccarthy? you're not taking advice from a

former playboy model? that's not where you go to find out what's gotd good for your child? >> i don't listen to her for vaccines or pretty much anything else raising my children. >> in her defense and those politicians who had a different position in 2008 or whenever it was, even back then that study that started in england that started all this nonsense had not officially been retracted. that was firnlretracted in 2010. is there any excuse other than saying there's no linkage between vaccines and autism? >> the science has proven vaccines are safe. i would encourage every parent to get every child vaccinated. it's not only good for your own children, it's also good for public health. now we're seeing the outbreaks of measles we've had outbreaks of whooping cough before that. you're seeing diseases we thought we'd eliminated from the united states making a recurrence. that's not good for anybody. >> i got to let you go because they're wrapping me. >> that's okay. >> i want to get this in. because obviously you are on the

list of potential presidential candidates on the gop side. but you are at the bottom of the list when it comes to the polling thus far. i guess it's realtively early. jeb bush with 15% and you're at 3%. if you decide to run how would you turn that around? >> megyn, if i decide to run it won't be based on polls or pundits, i think americans want leaders who will tell them the truth and be honest. we don't have that in washington today. a couple weeks ago i gave a speech about the threat of radical muslim terrords this president doesn't like to use, talking about immigration and simulation into our country. i was called racist and anti-muslim by the liberal media. that's not true. but we need leaders to tell whether it's $18 trillion of debt, we need leaders willing to tell the truth. by the way, this week it wasn't just democrats, i went after republicans who don't wapt to repeal all of the obamacare taxes. >> i read that.

governor jindal, good to see you, sir. >> thank you for having me. and thank you again for speaking out on vaccines. >> you bet. my own view is more public figures need to be honest about the fact most of us have vaccinated our children because all that's out there is jenny mccarthy your kid's going to get autism. the science doesn't support it. up next the new developments tonight with one of the most disturbing videos we've seen in a long time. a commercial jet crash caught on tape with more than 50 people onboard, terrifying. plus, see what we've learned about the commuter rail crash that killed six people last night and the woman driving the car that was trapped on the tracks, how it happened. >> i need probably at least three more engines to this location. we've got a fully involved train at this point. put at least five ambulances on this at the moment if you can spare them. we've got at least a dozen injured here. >> we're working on ambulances. better take something. theraflu severe cold won't treat your runny nose. really? alka-seltzer severe cold and flu relieves your worst flu symptoms

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breaking tonight, a rescue operation still underway in taiwan after a devastating plane crash caught on video. heart stopping dash cam video showing the final seconds before the plane crash landed in a river. look at this. the plane zooms over a highway appearing to clip a vehicle and overpass before landing in the water. 26 people were killed, 17 are still missing. 15 have been found alive. we also have new details tonight on the horrific commuter rail crash that claimed the lives of six people. and the woman behind the wheel of the car that was trapped on the tracks. trace gallagher has more tonight. trace. >> megyn, witnesses are as baffled as investigators about why the mercedes suv was on the tracks because at this point it does not look like any of the warning signals failed. the driver has been identified as 49-year-old ellen brody, a mother of 3 who lives in

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