tonight. ms. megyn is next. i am bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops here because we are definitely looking oult for you. breaking tonight, under pressure to admit we are in a war with radical islam, president obama takes a different course today. warning christians not to get on their "high horse." welcome to "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. just 48 hours after the islamic state horrified the world by locking a jordanian man in a cage and burning him alive, jordan continued its follow through on vows to avenge that execution with jordanian f-16s hammering the terrorists de facto capital in syria. actions jordan says are only the beginning. in the meantime back in washington, president obama appeared at the national prayer breakfast with what he apparently thought was an important message in the wake of this pilot's execution.

to advise americans that hundreds of years ago christians killed in the name of religion too. >> lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place remember that during the crusades and the inquisition people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. in our home country, slavery and jim crow all too often was justified in the name of christ. it is not unique to one group or one religion. there is a tendency in us a sinful tendency that can pervert and distort our faith. >> chief white house correspondent ed henry is live for us tonight at the white house. ed. >> megyn, his aides say this was merely the president adding a little historical context as he slipped into what really sounded like preacher mode or maybe it

was law professor mode as his critics say he was really just trying to downplay the current struggles with islamic militants because he was pointing out acts that date back to the middle ages. they say the president was downplaying what's happening now as his aide susan rice gives a major speech tomorrow laying out the president's national security strategy. remember, when they leaveaid out the strategy five years ago in a similar speech, they downplayed counterterrorism, said there had to be a lot of other focuses we had to get out of a war footing. that's why i pressed josh earnest today saying do they have any regrets about what they said five years ago about downplaying counterterrorism. listen. focus on managing threats use less american power and not just focus on counterterror. in retrospect was that naive five years later? >> no i think not at all. in fact, i think, you know one

clear piece of evidence to indicate that that strategy has enjoyed some success is the success that the administration has had and that the president has had in building and leading a coalition of more than 60 nations to take the fight to isil. >> now at the prayer breakfast the president also called isis a brutal vicious death cult very tough words. republican lindsey graham said he needs to go beyond that with tough action. graham's saying right now the president is on the sidelines while islamic militants run wild, in his words throughout the mideast. megyn. >> ed henry, thank you. joining us with more marc thiessen, former speech where i shall to president george w. bush and american institute fellow and a fox news contributor. marc, you know better than most that the words the president chooses at an event like this matter. and they're carefully thought through. and the president 48 hours after we saw that jordanian man burned

alive for some reason thought it was important to remind the world about the evils that christians committed a thousand years ago. >> yeah. it's inexplicable to me. you're right, words matter. and the president thinks these things through. so this is revealing to his world view. and 48 hours after seeing that video his reaction's to say we have to get off of our high horse because christians have committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. what does he mean by get off our high horse? and what kind of person looks at a video of a man being burned alive and his reaction is let's not forget we in the west did that too? with all due respect the crusades started almost a thousand years ago. the inquisition was in the 15th century. isis is burning people alive today, now not christians, islamic radicals are doing this. and he won't call them still in this speech won't call them by name. >> he's being accused by his critics of drawing some sort of moral equivalence between, you know christians and radical

islamists. but as awful as the deeds that were done a thousand years ago were, is there any point in drawing our attention to them? >> well, first of all, it's fascinating that he said people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. has he ever said isis committed terrible deeds in the name of mohamed or in the name of islam? no. in his speech today ed henry mentioned he said it was a death cult. he said they kill in the name of religion. he won't call it islamic radicalism, which is a problem. and second of all, you know what he's basically saying -- who launched the crusades? the catholic church. so he's basically saying the catholic church was the al qaeda of its day. i'd like to see him explain that to pope francis when he comes to washington. >> and then to bring slavery and jim crow into it as well as though, you know, that is somehow morally the equivalent of what we're watching today with isis. >> but also it was evangelical

christians who fought slavery and jim crow. it was william will burr -- who led the campaign against -- it was martin luther king, evangelical christians to fight those things. to draw that analogy is wrong. we need to remember for the president of the united states to invoke the crusades and the deeds done in the name of the crusades, we have to remember that plays right into islamist propaganda. they call us the crusaders. osama bin laden when he issued his fatwa calls our campaign against isis the crusader campaign. so the president of the united states steps up in front of the cameras and has film of him saying talking about the terrible deeds that were done in the name of christ during the crusades, that is a propaganda gold mine for our enemies. >> he seems determined, marc to bend over backwards to make sure that muslims in america, and elsewhere for that matter don't think that we are condemning all

of islam. you know that every religion has, you know marks on its history including christians christianity, catholics and so on. so the same way that doesn't make christians bad today. it doesn't make all muslims bad today. that seems to be what he's driving at. >> yeah. and george w. bush did the same thing, by the way. but he didn't shy away from calling it islamic radicalism and blaming the ideology. no one blames muslims for what's being done in their name by radical islamists. there's a difference between radical islamists and peaceful followers of islam. it needs islamic leaders to step up and say this is unislamic. just as saying slavery was un-christian. and that's what's lacking now. you cannot defeat an ideology unless you're willing to name it. that's not what we're willing to do in this administration. >> marc, good to see you. >> thank you, megyn.

>> also with us tony perkins. he attended the national prayer breakfast today. let's start there tony. marc's point that you look at who brought attention to, for example jim crow and racism in this country and dr. martin luther king comes to mind. you know the president trying to sort of link back all of these atrocities in history to the christians who he thinks were acting out of their faith in christ. >> right. you go back to the abolitionist movement that was led by evangelical christian pastors. you know, the sad thing about this megyn, is today's prayer breakfast was really a great event. darryl walt walt tlop, that was overshadowed by the president talking about how faith is a weapon. faith is not a weapon. what we see is isis is using

weapons to kill christians and other religious minorities in the middle east. and as marc was saying the president cannot bring himself to say that. >> harkening back to slavery and horrible, horrible things were committed as slavery was going on, slavery itself and subjected to it. do you think it's fair for him to bring that up to get americans understand what isis is, what it is doing? >> right. i don't think there's a comparison. are there things that have been done in the past under the mask of religion? absolutely. and most christians, almost all christians universally denounced that type of behavior whether it was the crusades a thousand years ago or slavery in this country 150 years ago. because it cannot -- it's not called for in scripture or validated. the new testament clearly denounces that type of behavior. what we have here is the

president refusing to acknowledge that islam and that ideology that's behind it has been radicalized is being used to kill christians. this was a great opportunity for the president to draw attention to the genocide that's happening in the middle east at the hands of islam. >> he mentioned the christians in nigeria, boko haram. >> in passing. but this was a great opportunity for pastor said abudini, an american citizen, he should demand iran release him and send him home. if he had half the courage the jordanian king had abdullah, we would see a lot happening in terms of america checking the power of isis. to drive this home, he talked about his trip to india and how they gave kind of a history lesson on their religious intolerance. he didn't mention his stop in saudi arabia on his way back to this country and the fact that they rank by his own state department as one of the worst abusers of religious freedom in

the country, in the world. >> do you feel like looking at isis radical islam and what they stand for, what they do you're on a high horse? given the history of christians? >> megyn, i think any human being that has any sense of sensibility and compassion that saw -- saw the video two days ago or seen anything that has come out of syria in iraq at the hands of isis would be moved to compassion and say these folks are enlightened by darkness. and they must be stopped. >> tony perkins thanks for being here. >> thank you, megyn. one of the biggest names in television news coming under new attacks tonight. first brian williams stretched the truth that's what his critics say about his time in iraq. he said he misremembered the event. and now he's being accused of dropping key facts from his apology. we'll take up the case in just a bit. and one lawmaker today made news with the blistering history

lesson on the guantanamo bay prisoner camp. plus, breaking news tonight on the president's meeting with a group of muslim leaders, the identity we were not permitted to know. see what happened today when we challenged the white house in a "the kelly file" follow-up. >> we were specifically told that you would not release yesterday because they were private citizen who is came in. now, as you yourself noted, the president met with private citizens who were dreamers, they're pretty young. and brought in tv cameras, we didn't get all their names. but they're private citizens as well. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. [ m'm... ] [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good.®

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jarrett and others in the white house staff. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry today pushed back. >> follow-up on the questions about meeting with muslim leaders yesterday. we were specifically told that you would not release yesterday because they were private citizen who is came in. now, as you yourself noted, the president met with private citizen who is were dreamers they're pretty young, and you brought in tv cameras. we didn't get all their names, but they're private citizens as well. i'm sort of curious is that under -- you suggested at the beginning that you might get the names. >> yeah, i'll see if i can do that for you. one thing we do know is that the names will be included in the waves record that are released. >> down the road. >> yeah. >> so they will at some point be released. >> let me see if i can get them released earlier. i know a couple individuals who have spoken in that meeting have spoken publicly about their participation in the meeting. >> doesn't that just make it -- put the list out there.

>> i'll -- >> last night the white house told us they wouldn't -- >> joining us zudhi jasser author of "a battle for the soul of islam." so you say you're furious about this meeting, why? >> well it's basically, megyn, the infantlization and racialization of our faith community. my family's from syria and this reminds me of sort of the royal meeting with the muslim council that comes out and we hear from the princes that met with the king what actually happened inside the meeting and the rest of us muslim who is are trying to reform and bring the realities of the truth to it are not allowed to talk about it. and we're told we can't even reform. and look in saudi arabia, the reformers are being whipped, but doesn't happen in america. at least we're made irrelevant instead of hearing them talk about jihad or hundreds of thousands being killed by radical islam. no, we hear that they're main ask, megyn they want a muslim

judge on a federal court. i mean seriously? god help us this is absurd. >> who was in the meeting? though we haven't had an official disclosure but some have come out and said i was there and i was there. >> basically these are muslims that don't care that much about islamism. you have a comedian a basketball player that had the courage to wear hi jab, you had mohamed majab. the current leader with isna. so these are groups that often the muslim public affairs council. all i can tell you is the filter seems to be apoll gists for islamist or those that want to look at our community as victims and those that are racializing islam as a race rather than an ideology that needs reform. >> so couple came out and said what we wanted to talk about was the bigotry against muslims. they think there's anti-muslim bigotry on the rise. and one of the folks apparently wanted to discuss this with was

the man you just mentioned a comedian named dean -- how do you pronounce it? he's going to talk about bigotry against muslims. this man not long ago on msnbc decided to mock mitt romney's family because he has a black grandson. watch. >> this is the romney family. any captions for this one? >> i think this picture is great. it really sums up the diversity of the republican party. >> he later came out and apologized after that became a big deal. but this is who is talking to the white house about how we're going to solve bigotry. >> well in gentleman as you can see on my twitter feed earlier i tried to address -- he sends me his article about his meeting and basically responds with a flippant response as if everything is about jokes. i'm sorry. we are a patient that has a cancer. and the muslim community right now is being told by the

president of the united states that our leaders are people that don't care about this cancer that not only is radicalizing muslims in america and canada and paris and elsewhere, but is destroying our community that have an opportunity for reform in egypt and syria and elsewhere. meanwhile, we're wasting the taxpayers money and time in the white house with absurd meetings of victimization. sure there's some bigotry. >> the white house says -- i want to say two things. number one the white house has met with jewish leaders in the past without disclosing identities, christian leaders as well without disclosing identities. when pressed however it's unusual when pressed to not then release. in any event they say -- the white house is saying what we met and discussed with these leaders was how do you keep an eye out for radicalization within your communities? how can we nip it in the bud? how do you see it? all of which would be beneficial, no? >> well megyn, the country, the world is waiting on the edge of their chairs to hear what muslims are going to do about this problem. and if they really want to fix

islamophobia, this meeting, remember megyn, the context it came out in january where we had one horrific terror video after an attack in paris, on and on. now we're almost a month to the attack tomorrow and now we have a meeting about how muslims are victims and basically christianity is the problem at the prayer breakfast? the priorities are absurd. and secondly, if you really want to treat the bigotry that may exist out there, for americans to see us leading a jihad against jihad is the treatment of that. it is not to deny it and push it aside. you can't defeat the ideology unless you first identify it and then empower the community that needs to fix it and not take people that are part of some royal council that want to deny it and maintain control of our community. >> zudhi jasser good to see you, sir. >> thank you megyn. >> we also saw a new fight today over the terror suspects being held at guantanamo bay. plus breaking news on the deadly commuter train crash raising new questions about exactly what this driver was

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from the world headquarters of fox news it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. with president obama making a push to release the last terror suspects and close guantanamo bay, we saw anger boil over in washington today. senator tom cotton cross examining the defense department official responsible for gitmo policy. in a blistering point by point exchange about the administration's argument that gitmo serves as a recruiting tool. >> now let's look at the propaganda value, how many detainees at guantanamo bay september 11 2001? >> zero. >> how many there in when al qaeda bombed the u.s.s. coal? >> zero. >> the facility was not open before 2002 senator. >> 1993 and the firs world trade bombing? >> same answer.

>> 1999 when iran took over our embassy? 1993 when hezbollah bombed our embassy and marine barracks in lebanon. the answer is zero. >> correct. >> islamic terrorists don't need an excuse to attack the united states, it's a political decision based on a promise the president made on a campaign. to say it's a secure decision based on propaganda value our enemies get from it is a pretext to justify a political decision. in my opinion the only problem with began guantanamo bay is there are too many empty beds and cells there now. we should be sending more terrorists there for further interrogation to keep this country safe. as far as i'm concerned every last one of them can rot in hell, but as long as they don't do that they can rot in guantanamo bay. >> senator tom cotton, a veteran himself. joining me now the first woman to ever fly a combat mission for the u.s. air force. first to command a fighter

squadron and newly elected congresswoman, martha. thank you for being here. tom cotton you could see it was personal for him the idea of closing guantanamo bay. and i know many including those who fought abroad saying why would we be releasing our enemies while the battle is still ongoing? your thoughts on it. >> absolutely. megyn. thanks for having me on. and i agree. when i deployed my squadron to afghanistan and working with special ops there, we were often seeing those on the battlefield that had been released and returned to fighting. same thing when iran counterterrorism operations at u.s. africa command. so on the house side this week we had several classified and unclassified briefings. i'm on the armed services committee and homeland security committee. and, look, we've got thousands and thousands of foreign fighters that are flowing through to help out in isis, in al qaeda in the arabian peninsula.

majority are from yemen. and yemen instability put us in a position where we don't know if we'll have a partnership to address the terror threat there. >> the administration is talking about bringing them here to the you know, that would change their zip code to something domestic. >> look, we are in a generational fight with radical islamist extremists. and i can say that, i guess the president won't. but it's a generational fight. we have enemy combatants. and it seems like again even this week the king of jordan was more emboldened and showed more resolve than our own commander in chief is in dealing with this very serious threat. so the last thing we need to be doing is returning enemies to the battlefield. they're enemy combatants. focus on fighting the fight with a real strategy that addresses the threat that is more serious than i've seen in my whole lifetime. not these campaign promises. >> but they believe -- the critics of gitmo believe it is used as a recruiting tool by terrorists. and just today the defense official who testified pointed out that the jordanian pilot who

was burned alive by isis, the journalist -- american journalists executed by isis by beheading were dressed in orange jumpsuits, which he points out were worn by the prisoners at abu ghraib. and there was an exchange -- hold on, we've got it teed up on that, i believe, listen. >> it is no coincidence that the recent isis videos showing a barbaric burning of a jordanian pilot and the savage execution of a japanese hostage each showed the victims clothed in an orange jumpsuit. >> does he have a point? talking about how we dress the prisoners at gitmo? >> no, he doesn't. this is all part of the propaganda propaganda again, of these islamic extremists. they're trying to use an excuse to say this is why we need to attack america and why we're against them. as senator cotton pointed out, they didn't have gitmo in the 1998 embassy bombings or 2000 u.s.s. coal or on 9/11.

this is propaganda and seems like our own administration is buying that propaganda. that is a flawed argument. we have an -- we have an organization here who is a serious capability, is a threat to our national security a threat to our way of life and national interests. and this administration's failing to even call it what it is and have a strategy to address it. >> what about on the topic of jordan now and the assistance we're providing them? as a former pilot yourself, they needed more help. they said they're going to unleash hell on isis now. and we had general mcinerney on air saying what we're doing now from the air is pinprick strikes, which he said is not enough. the uae just bailed from our coalition saying we don't think the search and rescue set up for pilots is adequate for us to participate in this any longer. what's your take on it? >> absolutely. i agree that these are pinprick strikes. i believe we're doing very anemic response. we're not allowing the military to use its full force to actually address the threat and go after the targets.

you know the obama administration is telling the enemy what we're not going to do. you know, we're not going to do this and we're not going to do that and this is when we're pulling out. we have got to let the military do what it can to address this at the military level and use all elements of national power obviously, to defeat and destroy this threat. i also ran our combat search and rescue in the middle east when i was deployed over there once. and, boy when we send men and women into harm's way, our pilots and single engine aircraft like the f-16 we've got to make sure we have a very robust capability. so if they get shot down we can immediately protect them overhead and provide that protection locate the survivor and protect them until we can get assets in there to get them out. that's a covenant that we have with those who fly into combat. we need to be supporting our allies as well. look, this is very anemic response. we need to step it up. we've had a lack of a strategy and we need to use all elements of power to destroy this threat. >> may i just say on behalf of

women everywhere, you sound like a bad ass. can we say that on tv? >> sure. >> it's so impressive. loved hearing a strong powerful woman doing things like i ran counterterrorism in the middle east -- anyway great to see you. thanks for being here. >> thank you megyn. appreciate it. >> some power. yeah! moving on. there's a bill "the kelly file" follow-up on the sony picture executive who got unwanted attention after e-mails she wrote about the president were leaked to the press. and nbc news anchor brian williams had to come clean about a story he told about his time in iraq. he's now accused of leaving facts out of his apology. that story's next. >> two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire including the one i was in. >> no kidding. >> rpg and ak-47. grandpa bode, grandma said you used to be out of control. really... i guess i did take some risks. anncr: bode, bode miller!!! trained a little bit differently. a little too honest sometimes. the media is useless.

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trace gallagher reports from our west coast newsroom. trace. >> megyn, what happened in march of 2003 brian williams went on "dateline" with tom brokaw said an army helicopter he was in and did not see was shot down. >> suddenly without knowing why we learned wed been ordered to land in the desert. on the ground we learned the chinook ahead of us was blown out of the sky. >> that helicopter was -- later williams told the story again. only this time he described it as something he witnessed saying "a pickup truck stopped on the road, pulled the tarp back, a guy got up, fired an rpg, rocket propelled grenade. then during an interview with general david petraeus in 2007 williams claimed it was his helicopter that took fire. and in 2013 on late night with david letterman the story blossomed. listen.

>> two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire including the one i was in. >> no kidding. >> rpg and ak-47. >> the soldiers who were actually on the chopper that got shot at were always annoyed by the fabrication but didn't say anything. then last week brian williams made the claim again. and the soldiers spoke out and williams apologized. listen. >> this was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran and by extension our brave military men and women, veterans everywhere, those who have served while i did not -- >> the chopper pilot who flew brian williams now says they did come under small arms fire but williams and the military say not true. still, people are calling for him to step down. megyn. >> trace, thank you. so should there be punishment here? joining me now new york trial attorney and fox news legal analyst and marc eiglarsh who is a former prosecutor. i am stunned that real media

critics, and others are calling for him to be fired over this. should i be mark? >> i'm stunned that you're not asking for him to be fired, megyn. >> really? >> absolutely. someone as credible as you who while very attractive and articulate at the core you are credible. you are like walter cronkite kind of credible. what's happened here is either he lied to the american people over and over or we'll give him the benefit of the doubt though my 8-year-old clearly thought he was lying in our bedtime story tonight, that he was grossly mistaken. if he's grossly mistaken about that, what else can we rely upon megyn? >> he says he conflated the memories of the event. haven't you had a situation where you had a story your family told over and over and over and suddenly over the years you're like was i there? i don't think i was actually there. >> to your point exactly to your point. it's like you're the high school

football player and what actually happens is you're on the team that wins the game at the last minute. and then in college you were on the field for that game. and then in law school you were involved in the play. and by the time you're 25 years old you caught the winning pass and you had the whole parade in your honor. because that's kind of how the brain works. here's the other point mark. >> yeah. >> he's not lying about the news, really. he's lying about himself. and if you look at what trace said, it started off by him trying to thank a military man for saving his own life. so he made the situation worse. >> gullible again. >> he's credited for going to iraq in the first place, for trying to honor those who were with him. but truth does matter. mark, as kind as your words were about me, we all make mistakes. how do you know this wasn't a mistake? because when he went on the air in 2003 and told the story he told it straight. if he wanted to lie about it, he would have been lying right from

the beginning. the passage of time immill rates the situation, does it not? >> no. you and arthur are triflizing i don't have to conclude he's lying. i think many people have already made that conclusion. let's say he's grossly mistaken. he apologizes to the american people. i listened to that apology about 15 times and what he said was unbelievably misleading again. >> how? >> i was following behind in the helicopter. like clinton true, it was true, but he led everyone to believe that he was right there behind that helicopter when he was 30 to 60 minutes behind that helicopter. he wasn't there when it was shot down. >> but now what will you make of the fact that this pilot who claims to have been flying his helicopter says we did take some fire. now, if that's true then what he told letterman in 2013 is

true and the only wrong statement he made was the one on friday where he said what his helicopter got hit by was an rpg. >> and, megyn whose memory are we relying upon now? in other words, as you just noted different people telling different stories. so we don't know what the truth really is. >> he told you. >> who told you? >> he told you in his apology he was mistaken. his helicopter was not shot down. >> correct. >> we have now learned that 30 to 60 minutes later he shows up. on a personal note i've got to thank the good samaritans in south florida. i was in a horrible car accident, megyn i don't know if your producers told you -- or wait, was it the car behind me? >> this is to the point howie kurtz was making last night. unlike your family, birthday party, nan na did something fun, his point was how do you misremember something like your

chopper got hit by an rpg. >> and here's the bottom line, america is a country of forgiveness -- >> hold on out there. >> -- we know there are more heinous things. you watch the news tomorrow -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> but let me ask you this, mark. shouldn't his history -- and i realize some people don't like brian williams. but many people do. he's been the number -- >> i like the guy. >> but it's not like he's some serial liar right? >> correct. >> so doesn't his history count for anything? >> absolutely. and let me just say this, i have nothing but love for that man. >> you're saying he should be fired. >> listen to me while you listen to the words that flow from his lips on tomorrow's newscast, you will have to question -- >> what? no you won't. you're absolutely wrong. >> he admitted it. >> because you know people in

your everyday life who you know have told you a lie somewhere along the way and you still credit those people with what they tell you at that point. >> arthur -- >> he didn't lie about obama's policy. he didn't lie about some secret meeting that never took place. >> we don't know whether he lied at all. lying ascribes a motive in going out there. and he claims that he's embarrassed, that he misremembered it that he conflatedded stories -- >> so badly i don't know if you can rely upon them. >> have you never done? >> of course you have. >> you tell me you won every trial. you didn't win every trial. you're full of it, mark. >> see that's a lie. arthur's a defense lawyer. we expect it from him. we don't expect it from a newscaster who wreaks of credibility. that's the difference. >> all right. his problem is he wreaks of credibility. apparently he didn't wreak of credibility he'd be just fine. good to see you. >> thanks, megyn. also tonight we are getting reports that doctors are saying there's little more they can do

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>> she got out to examine things and got back in her car and continue to move forward on the track. the flshing lights reportedly were on at the crossing. it remains unclear why she did not back up her vehicle. the engineer saw the vehicle, tried to brake but by then it was too late. the driver along with train passengers died.

also breaking tonight new detail on what doctors are saying about the condition of whitney houston's daughter after she was found facedown in a bathtub over the week. >> reporter: this has been a tough 47th pittsburgh day for bobby brown. there's been so much speculation about bob i cristina's condition and how she is doing. she's still open life support. bobby brown left the hospital just after 4:00 this afternoon. he is the one we have highlighted in the video that you see here. he wore a gray sweatshirt and was with twoo two other people. he gave us the thumbs up as he passed our cameras. it's been five days since she was found. the discovery came almost three years to the day of her famous mother whitney houston's death. the family had been call to the

hospital to say their final good-byes. bobby brown's attorney disputed that. if we issued a statement every time the media published a false report regarding this matter that's all we would be doing 24 hours a day. this is false as is the vast majority of the other reporting that is currently taking place. so tonight bobbi cristina is still in the fight for her life. back to you. we'll be right back, first coming up on "hannity" at the top of hour. it really shows how much brian williams doesn't respect the military and the sacrifice that our men and women have made and continue to make. i think everybody in the military is outrage by this.

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the investigators suspect it's chinese hackers. it affects 2,800 members and former members may have been compromised. the leaders of germany and france head to moscow friday for a meeting with vladimir putin. they are spearheading a new effort to stem the blood shed in eastern ukraine. fighting has been raging since last april and continues to escalate. they hope putin will except their peace plan. i'm patricia stark and now here is "hannity." tomorrow night at 9:00. thanks for watching. i'm megyn kelly. welcome to "hannity." tonight we have a jam packed show. brian williams of nbc news admits to lying and coming