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eat to be with you. >> great show congratulations. monday night, whole new episode? >> 9:00 p.m. meantime "happening now" starts right now. have a good day. >> thank you jamie, bill. fox news alert on two major international stories developing right now. we begin in jordan were the kingdom warns isis that the airstrikes are, quote the just the beginning. commander-in-chief will ask to expand military role in battling isis. we hope you're off to a great friday so far. i'm jenna lee. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott. we're dealing with a rapidly developing situation in ukraine with secretary of state john kerry meeting with leaders in that country trying to fine peace. the german chancellor and french president both set to sit down with vladmir putin to find a way to stop the bloodshed in eastern ukraine. as former commander of nato warns the kremlin could be eyeing other baltic states
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coming up next. all of this as we expect the administration today to lay out the president's strategy for our own national security. >> interesting to hear details on that. live fox team coverage amy powell in london. conor powell has the latest in jordan on the fight against isis. conor? >> reporter: jenna we saw large crowds turn out across the country, particularly in amman, jordan the capital, the people came out in support of king abdullah and the families of the jordanian pilot. muath al-kasaesbeh the pilot killed by isis. they were pro-government. they were very very anti-isis. there is collective belief in this country real unity that isis is the enemy. they need to be defeated. there is real sense of unity in this country to do just that. we're hearing that jordanian response is on going. more than a dozen or so
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jordanian planes launched attacks in syria in the last 24 hours or so, supported by u.s. planes and other coalition planes. we're getting mixed messages where the strikes are. there are some reports from jordan that the strikes are also, happening in iraq. according to pentagon officials you will the strikes in recent days have been in syria. still this is part of a collective response that the dooreddian government is putting forward. should be point the out they called for harsh response. so far the response is limited to air campaign. there is really no talk of a ground offensive. but that is, really the sort of bulk of the response in terms of against isis here domestically. inside jordan king is really walking a fine line between trying to corner isis pushing them out of the sort of mainstream. there is support in this country, very small support but support in recent months. but the king is drawing in other islamic extremists people with
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ties to al qaeda and muslim brotherhood. if you're with us and against isis there is a place for you in jordanian society. so the king, government, and tribal leaders in this country are trying to draw a firm red line between conservative islamic groups in this country at times have been anti-king abdullah and monarchy but today are pro-government anti-isis. that is what they're trying to do. it is a very fine line it is very difficult, we're seeing that part of the strategy anti-isis strategy guys, emerge inside jordan as well. jenna: conor, thank you. gregg: now to ukraine where pro-russian rebels and ukrainian authorities agreed once again to open a humanitarian corridor to evacuate the civilians from the front in the east. while here at home the administration is weighing sending more weapons and supplies to help ukraine battle russian aggression. vice president joe biden
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speaking about the deteriorating situation in brussels earlier today. >> russia continues to escalate the conflict by sending mercenaries in tanks and we euphemistically say in the united states little green men without patches in. they are very sophisticated special operations soldiers. this is a moment where the united states and europe must stand together, stand firm. russia can not be allowed to redraw the map of europe. because that is exactly what they are doing. gregg: amy kellogg has the latest now from london. amy? >> reporter: hi, gregg. you won't find much senator at all in the european union for arming ukranian army. ukraine is not part of nato and the concern among europeans giving weapons to ukraine would simply escalate the fighting. it would lead to a really full-blown proxy war but on the other hand gregg, proponents of
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arming ukraine's military say that if they don't do that if ukraine doesn't get better weaponry, then russia will simply seize more of its territory, thereby really creating more facts on the ground. there is really significant diplomatic move on today with germany's chancellor angela merkel an france's president francois hollande going to moscow for talks with russian president vladmir putin. putin presented the west with a plan of sorts and apparently america kill and -- merkel and hollande are bringing it back with their own provisions. skeptics say there was a cease-fire deal back in september that has not been adhered to so another proposal is not too excited to get about. secretary of state john kerry met in the ukrainian capital kiev with president poroshenko reiterating demand for russia to withdraw its troops and respect
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ukraine's borders. much the same demand since the fighting began last spring. poor citizens of ukraine are severely caught in the crossfire suffering severe shortages of everything. there seems to be something of a cease-fire around a transportation city, the scene of very fierce fighting. buses are taking civilians to safety today. finally, greg, the united nations say a million people have been displaced in ukraine due to the fighting. now, chancellor merkel and president hollande when they're finished with moscow they will fly to germany. there is a big security conference going on in munich. they will share what is discussed with other european leaders and secretary kerry. gregg. gregg: amy kellogg live in london. thank you. jenna: let's turn now to domestic politics. frank warning not to believe everything you read and hear leading up to the 2016 presidential election.
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daily caller writes there will be a lot of political commentary as the 2016 gop primary will become reality on cable news. much of it will be good, much of it will be bad. buyer beware. we have jamie weinstein who wrote the peas and from "the daily caller." irony we're treich to seek out this on cable news and go through reality television-like show what politics really is for 2016. jamie, what do you think our viewers need to be aware of? >> i think there is a lot of conventional wisdom turns out not to be true. one of the things i saw recently the idea that jeb bush and marco rubio can not win the republican nomination ultimately because their stance on immigration reform. the reality is the republican party, like america as a whole when you poll them, over 70% of the republican party in most
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members of republican party in most polls support some type of immigration reform that legalizes estimated 11 million immigrants in the united states as long as there may be penalty for back taxes, most importantly securing the border. they oppose president obama's unilateral actions but the idea that bush and rubio's past stance on immigration reform make them very difficult to win the republican nomination i think is a piece of conventional wisdom a lot of commentators spout that is not backed up by the facts and by polls. jenna: nina, this is something you actually agree with jamie. it is really not the death knell that some would like to make it to be for a potential candidates. why not? >> i would put it this way. it have to be the death knell. i was so good to hear jamie use the numbers. i use the numbers all the time. republican supporters, they support a penalty to say here with requirements attached.
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caucus-goers tend to be more conservative and tend not to be support i have of immigration reform and definitely an uphill battle. by the way immigration has been the big elephant in the room. it made john mccain's first attempt at a primary campaign collapse in 2007. it was what pushed mitt romney into talking about self-deportation, trying to appeal to the right during the primaries which hurt him in the general. it really is a very treacherous topic for republicans which by the way why they should pass immigration reform and get on with it. you can see something where conservatives split anti-immigration reform vote. that paves the way for a, more establishment, more pro-immigration reform vote. if you can't, you can't like come right out and make the statement that immigration being pro-immigration reform will kill your chances. >> interesting you're both focusing on immigration.
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in fact we have a "fox news poll" where immigration stand and other big issues. this poll is from last week. it shows immigration is comparable to other big issues for example, like the deficit. we'll show the next poll. this is not the one we want to show. but, i'm curious about you both focusing on immigration when so much is happening in the world. how do we even know immigration will be a big issue in 2016? to your point, nina, it could be taken off the table if some sort of proposal gets through congress. jenna: go ahead, jamie. >> that's a good point. david drucker who is a great reporter at the "washington examiner," talked to nine county chairman in iowa. this is where steve king is from iowa congressman from iowa. we have this idea in iowa immigration is a huge issue. their first topic focus on foreign policy issues. a lot of people in iowa care what is going on with isis and other immigration is important to some
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degree but it is not the overriding issue even in the iowa caucuses. the idea that immigration will be the overriding issue is misplaced. >> with respect to iowans out there, nina, is iowa as relevant as it once was to telegraph what we'll see in 2016? >> well iowa is an interesting iowa is always important and of course it picked more establishment-type candidates dating back to the '90s. more recently it has become more conservative more evangelical. mitt romney lost it by just a hair i about the way in 2012. so it is it is a more conservative vote but it is important and the other thing to remember is, caucuses can be important. on other side of the aisle, obama proved that in 2008 where he was able to take these caucuses and, he basically did a stealth guerrilla campaign against hillary clinton where he used caucuses and ability to control pretty low turnout
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caucuses to really launch his campaign in the primary. so iowa is always a pleas to watch. jenna: jamie's article is entitled popky cob punditry. 10 points for use of that word jamie, by the way. >> good one jamie. jenna: heed the warning fairly. thank you to you both. have a great day. >> thanks, jenna. >> you too. gregg: the jobs report is just out. what do the numbers tell us and is it a real story on unemployment? infants infected with measles at a day-care center at a major american city. the outbreak is now spreading and what is being done to stop it. four adults admit they staged kidnapping of a six-year-old boy. why did they do it? >> then he takes them out for a ride of terror which is the boy starts to immediately crying when he is told he will never see his mother again. he will never see his house. when he doesn't stop crying
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jenna: right now an update to a story breaking yesterday on "happening now." five babies diagnosed with measles at a suburban chicago day-care center and health officials say more cases are likely. measles once considered eradicated now on the rise again as more parents choose not to vaccinate their children. garrett tenney is live in chicago. >> reporter: that sets the latest string of cases more than others. not that parents chose to vaccinate the children all the babies were too young to be vaccinated. all five are less than one-year-old. doctors recommend children get the vaccines 12 to 15 months to have the measles shot in place and have them take hold and have a difference of the health officials are investigating how these five children contracted the disease and who else they may have come in contact with.
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>> this is a highly contagious disease. they're likely to be more cases and so we shouldn't be sure riced by that. and we will do everything we can to identify if there is a point source of this. >> reporter: officials have already identified at least 10 other children from the kindercare learning center who may be at risk. those children are being kept at home for the next 21 days and closely monitored for any signs of fever or rashes. the day care center has received a deep cleaning out of precaution and is asking any other children or staff who have not received the vaccination to stay home for at least 21 days as well. this string of cases in illinois comes as a one-year-old baby in new jersey is also recovering from measles. investigators in both cases have not found any connection to the outbreak at disneyland. nationwide the cdc says there are now more than 100 cases of measles this 14 states jenna.
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jenna: big story especially for us today. garrett, thank you very much. with growing concern for public safety is parents refusal to get a child vaccinated browned for a lawsuit? we'll ask our legal panel that question a little later this hour. gregg? gregg: turn now to the u.s. economy. new january jobs numbers just out showing we added 257,000 jobs last month. as the unemployment rate rose slightly to 5.7%. there is the dow right now, up about 40 points. is it going to stay on track for its best week in three years? what does this new jobs report tell us? joining us now from our sister network, fox business network's cheryl casone. hi cheryl. >> good morning to both of you. this jobs report was really better than expected. certainly analysts were expecting the number as we got as greg mentioned, 257,000. good news they revised up november and december, those rates as well. but wages are still a sticky
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problem. many analysts and economists say because we're creating new jobs doesn't mean they are well-paying jobs. lots of bartender jobses waitress jobs, retail jobs. these are not the types of economy the we had before the recession happened. we dumped 8.8 million people on the unemployment lines during the great recession. while the jobs have come back it's a wage issue. let me give you an example of a couple of numbers. last 12 months raises have written 2.2%. what you need for healthy economy for wages to rise by 3 to 3 1/2%. so those numbers do not add up. you're not seeing the dow rise much because of this today. a lot of jobs full time before the recession began now they're part-time jobs. people return together workforce is part-time, temporary. working fewer hours. obamacare one of the reasons we're not seeing more full-time jobs created because employers do not want to higher too many full-time employees because of health care issue.
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the jobs we're seeing are not ones we want to see. this matters for entire economy because the fed is watching the job market and labor market. that is one of their two mandates monetary policy and labor market. if the labor market doesn't continue to improve the fed will sit and not see interest rates. many analysts think because we got a little bit of a bump in the jobs report today the fed could act in june. what does that mean for all of us? your insurance rates car rates, loan rates, credit card everything will go up. the cost of bore -- borrowing will go up. gregg: talk about the 5.7% unemployment rate. that is the labor department stat. real unemployment rate when you factor in all underemployed and those who have given up a whopping 11.2%. >> 11.2%. we've been talking about this on fox business for so long. this is finally getting into the national discussion. we need better jobs in this country. gregg: cheryl casone thanks very much. don't miss cheryl casone on our
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sister network. if you're not sure where to find the fox business network in your particular area, log on to foxnews.com/channel finder. jenna: mystery over a dead prosecutor in argentina who drafted an arrest warrant for the a argentinaian president. she is claiming she is a innocent in the 1994 bombing of a jewish community center that leads to iran. we'll talk more about that. what investigators found what happened in the cockpit just before the asian air flight crashed into the water. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. (melodic, calm music) don't miss the princess cruises 50th anniversary sale. our biggest sale ever, across all destinations.
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taiwanese aviation officials say immediately after one engine cut out and plummeted into a river shortly after takeoff, the pilot on that trans-asia plane apparently shut off the other engine in a futile attempt to restart them and pull up. well at least that is the preliminary finding from the black boxes recovered from the aircraft. four more bodies pulled from those waters today. another eight people were he remain missing. >> an update to the growing mystery in argentina that we've been following on "happening now." it is an extraordinary story where a prosecutor, alberto nisman, was found dead. he apparently drafted an arrest warrant for the president of argentina just days before his death. nisman was set to accuse the president of covering up iran's alleged role in a 1994 terror attack that killed 85 people. chief correspondent jonathan hunt is live from our west coast bureau with more on this story. jonathan? >> reporter: hey jenna this has all makings of a movie
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thriller. a prosecutor investigating a possible presidential cover-up over a terror attack writing an arrest request for a sitting president and days later, that prosecutor found dead with a bullet through his skull. the president in question argentina's christina kirschner initially protesting her innocence over allegations of trade favors she covered up an iranian role in 1995 bombing after jewish community. more angrily protesting her innocence the death of prosecutor investigating the claims against her. >> translator: no one is going to blackmail me. no one is going to intimidate me. i am not afraid of them. they can say what they like. make accusations what they want to. let the judges call me. let the prosecutors denounce me. it doesn't bother me. >> reporter: the prosecutor alberto nisman was found shot to death on january 11th just days after he had apparently drafted that request
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for the arrest of president kirschner. a request that was never filed but was found in the trash after his shooting death. it is a mystery that is gripped argentina and added to the sense of chaos in the country ahead of october's elections as president kirschner's approval rating plunges. >> the level of distrust and cynicism so high, no answer no conclusion will satisfy those who feel that somehow she was involved in this. >> reporter: and, in the latest twist to this saga, argentina's former spy chief, who president kirschner implied might have been involved in the death of the prosecutor has now gone missing on the very day he was called to testify before investigators. this is a very strange one, jenna. well worth watching when it involves such a important south american nation. jenna: absolutely. one of the things alberto nisman warned about sleeper cells of
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iranians over north america as part of their own spy ring. definitely one we continue to watch. jonathan, thank you very much. gregg: coming up next breaking news on fort hood. the u.s. army making a big digs for the -- decision for the victims. our media panel here as brian williams comes under more scrutiny about his reporting. this time what he saw or didn't see during hurricane katrina. plus president obama taking heat for comparing isis to christianity's violent past. at tte national prayer breakfast.
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jenna: fox news alert. fox news confirming that the u.s. army will award the purple heart to victims of the fort hood shooting massacre back in 2005. that announcement expected next week. here is chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with more on that. >> reporter: thank you jenna. just to sort of set the table for folks who haven't been following this story that closely, there was new language that was inserted into the defense authorization act that's the defense budget and this language was inserted after, you know long-time efforts by the families connected to fort hood and their lawyers as well as some key members of congress down in texas and what that language said is that as the -- asks the army to reevaluate fort hood and
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whether whether that attack was directed by a foreign terrorist organization and our pentagon team has confirmed this morning through three sources that they have in fact concluded that the fort hood massacre in 2009 was inspired by a foreign terrorist organization. as we've shown in the ongoing reporting here at fox news, the shooter, major nidal hasan at the time was in an, exchanging e-mails with the american cleric, part of the al qaeda affiliate in yemen. there is major nidal hasan there. he was convicted on those counts. there is rethinking of this attack as a terrorist attack versus what it was labeled by the defense department in the months afterwards as a work-place violence. just as final point, i was speaking to the lawyer for the fort hood families just a few minutes ago. and this was news to him as well. they had been standing by for some kind of conclusion from the army. he said it is going to be very important to see how the army
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determines who amongst this group will get the purple heart. there are those, the 11 people who were murdered in the readiness center. more than 30 people who took a bullet let at the readiness center but he says there are a couple of dozen others who suffered from ptsd or posttraumatic stress disorder as a result of being in the readiness center at the time of the shooting. he says many of these individual, whose clients have been unable to work since. getting this award he said would mean that the defense department has finally recognized that it was terrorism and these benefits will help these individual, many of whom have never been able to go back to work to really have a way to sustain a very basic lifestyle after that attack. jenna: thank you for the correct year. we said 2005. the attack was in 2009. >> correct. jenna: thank you, catherine. just briefly to underscore this are when do we expect an
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official announcement? and does that mean once the official announcement happens do they automatically get the benefits that would come with the purple heart. >> reporter: our pentagon team got this first this morning and what we understand there may now be an official statement from the army later today. they were planning on making this announcement during the army chief of staff's testimony, secretary of the army's testimony next week. so we've kind moved up the timeline because of our reporting here at fox news. i don't want to give you bad information. it is not clear to me how quickly this would kick in but i would emphasize that our ongoing reporting at fox news has really helped drive this point home. we were among the first to say there was evidence that it was a terrorist attack and our ongoing reporting successfully showed and really reveal the true extent of major mid hasan's relationship with anwar
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al-awlaki. even his own lawyer told fox news that no question of his mind that his radical view of islam was one of the main drivers of this attack. as a personal note, we've been fortunate enough to interview some survivors from fort hood and these are individuals whose lives will never be the same again. some of them still have bullets in them from major hasan that were never, they were never able to surge clue remove. as one -- yourally remove. one father said to us i gave the army my son and what they gave back to me was not the same individual after fort hood. >> really important to remember that. a credit to your great reporting, catherine as well as the reporting from the pentagon today. we'll see how quickly this takes place. the purple heart will be award to some if not all those injured or killed in the fort hood attack. thank you very much, catherine. >> reporter: you're welcome. gregg: long-time nbc news anchor brian williams making headlines
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and not in a good way. first he got caught in a lie about being on a helicopter that came under fire in iraq. mr. williams apologized. now some of his past reporting is getting a closer look from a louisiana newspaper. like his time in new orleans during hurricane katrina where williams reported that he saw a body floating in the french quarter even though the french quarter didn't flood like the rest of the city. here's our media panel to talk about. judy miller pulitzer-prize-winning investigative author and fox news contributor. lynn sweet contributor from the fox "chicago sun-times." if it turns out besides the helicopter story that williams embellished other stories, what then. >> at that point nbc may have to reconsider hits declaration it will not have suspension for mr. williams. there has been a report in the "new york post" that tom brokaw who is the much-beloved anchor
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who he replaced and succeeded i should say, has his doubts now about whether or not brian williams is viable as an anchor. and as the symbol of what nbc has peddled as credibility. that is the marketing vehicle they have used. both have been called into question. this is very sad. i'm personally distressed for him. he has had a great and distinguished career and this must be simply taken but it is worse in terms of the network's credibility now. gregg: it is confounding lynn, he reportedly ignored warnings from nbc brass early on to knock off this story. and he ignored it. comes down to what, trust? >> well, comes down to judgment and like judy i want to be charitable here. people deserve a second chance. looks like he got it with that warning. and, you can't, the impulse to be a serial embellisher is not
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what you want in a network anchor. by the way we all know network anchors don't work alone. i think that is why we'll hear more. he must have had some people from nbc with him who, why haven't we heard from them yet, to back him up or not. but the most important thick is is that reporters who cover wars every day, probably put themselves at a lot more risk than an anchor coming in he wasn't the anchor at the time. for somebody coming in visiting. richard angle nbc news correspondent, i see him regularly in what seemed to be very dangerous situations but doesn't make it about him. gregg: right. >> now it is unattractive for brian williams to make it about him but that would just be a matter of taste. what is serious this goes to his credibility as a figure to deliver the news. gregg: well, what do you bet nbc will wait and see how the ratings do? i wanted to hear another topic. president obama taking fire from
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the religious right and others for some remarks at the national prayer breakfast in addressing the current brutality by isis and in the name of islam, he referred to christianity's own bloody history. >> we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place. remember during the crusades and the inquisition people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. in our home country, slavery and jim crow all too often was justified in the name of christ. gregg: you know judy it struck a lot of people that the president was somehow in a twisted way justifying isis's savagery, yet last night, abc, nbc, cbs, utterly ignored it on their evening newscast. >> it should not have been ignored because it is part of the president's meme. the president always said isis
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is not islam. that islam does not call for this type of brutality. what i think he was trying to do was point out all religions are capable of having those who abuse them in the name of the religion, in the name of god. i think he was trying to establish some historical context. unfortunately i don't think that is the way many of the people in the room at the prayer breakfast heard it that way. gregg: you know lynn is there any conceivable moral equivalency to what happened 1,000 years ago in the crusade? >> well i think i think the answer is, a lot of horrible things happened in many generations throughout the ages. i think the point here is that we have a who are risk situation that needed to be dealt with, in the context like judy suggested as isis is or is not a religious movement. straighten that out if you want in the speech. i don't want to go down the road saying well, this horrible thing is or is not worse than the other. that is why i think comparisons
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sometimes just don't do them. because some horrible things in the history of man and woman kind just are, there is no equivalency and especially, in this one i think he should have just left it alone and talked to the issue of the day, burning someone alive is a pretty horrible thing. unfortunately that is a lot to talk about at a prayer breakfast. he just didn't have to go there and therefore, but whether or not this is error in speech making merited making national news and all, the networks, maybe not. lots of important stuff in the world. gregg: fair enough. judith miller, lynn sweet. good to see you both. jenna: the growing measles outbreak link toddies any land raising the question what is more important, parental rights or public safety? we were pointing out there is question about the quote, unquote, outbreak in chicago being tied back to disneyland. could be something different. most schools allow kid to attend
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jenna: let's check out what is ahead on "outnumbered" at top of the hour. hi ladies. >> always great to see you on a friday specially, as jordan warns isis only has begun to fight. president obama is expected to ask congress to authorize military force. is blowing a chance to work with our allies to defeat isis? we'll take a look. >> experts rank john kerry least effective secretary of state in the last 50 years. does he deserve that? we'll ask #oneluckyguy. first time ambassador john bolton joins us. >> inaugural. we love it. chris baldies respects a female
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referee who gave him a technical foul. would he say the same thing he said to a male ref? >> all that and very fame must mustache. top of the hour. >> i'm just saying fisticuffs. >> thank you. >> sure. gregg: measles outbreak sparking a fierce debate over parental rights versus public safety. now several states are considering changeses to backs laws -- vaccination laws. nearly every state parents can send their parents to schools and day care centers without vaccinations. are the personal and religious exemptions just lawsuits waiting to happen? fred tecce joins us, former federal prosecutor. erik gustafson, criminal defense attorney. anyone can sue. you have to prove negligence. if my kid gets seriously ill from infection from another kid whose parent refused vaccination can i argue negligence and sue? >> sure. you're a lawyer, gregg. you know as well as i do, part
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of negligence is reckless disregard for safety and well being of others. that is a standard legal concept f you can show by not getting kids vaccinated in particularly light of overwhelm ming evidence there is no danger whatsoever involved in this i think you meet that stared. gregg: eric, do you agree? you have to prove proximate cause and how do i prove my individual was infected as opposed to third kid. >> you don't know where the infect from. people love to sue. they want to sue everyone for everything. i don't see how you can do that. gregg: i can sue the school district, can i? >> you can but you have to prove exactly where that infection came from and it was gross negligence which with measles is very difficult to pinpoint. gregg: all right. i got to move to another subject because this one has me burning mad and you will too likely. a missouri family is in serious trouble right now, accused of going to extremes to teach a little boy a lesson.
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police say they staged a kidnapping to warn the six-year-old about so-called, stranger danger. this is, this is really awful, fred. they staged a kidnapping. the poor kid was in tears. here is my question. is it right that they have been charged with kidnapping and other offenses? >> awful? no. the word i use for it is despicable and absolutely. what they should have been charged with is abuse. this guy picks the kid up, waves the gun in his face bound his head in plastic. aunt comes in and pulls his pants down and said they would make him a sex slave. this was disof the abouting. i get it. i have four teenage sons as of today. you have to teach kids there is consequence to their action this is off the charts, out out of control. gregg: often times these criminal cases come down to intent of the defendants and here their defense will be invariably eric we didn't
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intend to kidnap but you know, try selling that to a poor little kid who may be traumatized for the rest of his life. fair charges or not? >> i don't think they're necessarily fair charges. these children, these parents were trying to protect their child from a real kidnapper. as bad parenting, we all agree with that but when you have so many kids being sexually abused taken off the streets and these parents have made so many efforts to teach their child this but he is still being friendly to strangers? we see these cases. i've worked with families and they just went about it the wrong way. i think parenting classes would be appropriate because putting them in jail would do nothing but harm the child even more. they need parenting classes. >> that is why you're a good defense lawyer. they went over the line. >> he really sold that, didn't he? i'm sorry, pal. >> a lot better than the child getting snatched off the street. gregg: i gotcha. >> it's a bad situation either way. gregg: viewers can decide. fred eric. thank you.
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isis the terrorist group and really the rest of the world. jordan included as well as the united states. what we're seeing emerge online are report from isis that an american hostage that they had been holding is now dead due to jordanian airstrikes. again, unconfirmed at this time. only based on isis reports, but
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because of the emotion and the weight of what has been going on between isis and jordan this week we wanted to make sure that we covered it. shepard smith is reporting live from amman jordan with perhaps a little more context for us, shep, on this new headline that we're seeing. >> well, jenna, we got this word just moments ago. you mentioned it came from site and isis issued a statement which will read for you. i'm quoting now. the failed jordanian aircraft killed an american female hostage said the message. no mujahideen was injured in bombardment. all praises to allah. muggia dean means fighter. this is who isis never mentioned, aid worker in the united states who had been working in syria who has been missing for a very long time. there has never been a video. there has never been a tweet. there has never been a transcript, never been mention of her life.
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fast forward to the jordanians making this very public push. jordanians have been involved in this fight for a long time. they say the number of sorties they have been involved in has increased. we know half the jordanian f-16 group, they have 24, 25 jets. half of them were used in strikes which were carried out according to the pentagon earlier today in and around syria. we do not know exact locations. we do not know targets hit but in the past they have been telling us these strikes by the jordanians with the support of the americans have hit targets of availability. convoys of people isis fighters. they have hit weapons deep poets, ammunition dumbs and the rest. the suggestion that a jordanian airstrike would have killed an american hostage is beyond and to the exclusion of all reason and i say that not just because the timing is too convenient but because the fact they have never mentioned her, suggested to many that watched this and
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analyzed this and very much involved in the effect that that she is there watching over this situation, nobody has thought for a long time, has held out a lot of hope her family aside god knows but no realistic analysis of this has suggested this they were holding her hostage because their pattern is, if they have a hostage, they tell you about this hostage, they try to make you do something based on the fact that they have this hostage and they don't kill them. they wait until they can bring something. but in this case the jordanians have two days of very public, very vocal with the backing of the crown and talking of the crown strikes inside of syria and now conveniently isis says that an american woman is dead. i for one will not believe this unless and until there is some the of proof. i would bet you my bottom dollar, proof will not come. will there be a video or something? i would doubt it because chances are very good sadly, that this aid worker volunteer, has
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perished long ago and the very idea that an isis, that a jordanian strike would have killed one of our hostages in their holding is just beyond reality. jenna: worth pointing out, isn't it, shep obviously to meet the headline with great skepticism our viewers may recognize that we don't speak directly about american hostages in syria. the name of this hostage was only just recently released by the white house by mistake. yet we also continue to keep that name off the air, for reasons of making sure that we protect those that perhaps we can protect. i see you are checking your blackberry. share with us whatever you have. talk to us about the reporting of this about how we handle, american hostages that could be held by an enemy. >> well the last thing we want to do, jenna, as you well know is jeopardize anyone's life, not an american life but anyone's life being held by these barbarians. i can tell you that this
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particular american hostage i will not use her name yet either. i will wait for somebody to give us a go ahead really at this point for purposes of consumption for our audience, frankly at this moment not important but she was an aid worker and she was captured in aleppo. she had gone into aleppo in august of last year. she wasn't heard from for a while. after about three months or so they release ad proof of life video on her. she was wearing a hajab, the headdress that they wear in this part of the world. i don't think she said anything on that particular video but it was a proof of life moment. since that moment, i want to say that was december, somewhere the end of 2013, i believe the end of 2013, so december 2013, january, 2014, with this proof of life video since then absolutely nothing until today when isis says a jordanian strike killed her.
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jenna: irony of the timing, the white house mentioning her name all add a little more to this. shep, thank you so much for getting on for us. up. we will continue to cover the development. in the meantime "outnumbered" starts now. this is "outnumbered." and harris faulkner is here. melissa francis and dagan mcdowel and former ambassador to the u.n. john bolton. we have had amazing
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