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up about chris kyle and "american sniper" this week. what's going on? we will share tonight at 8 p.m. i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with eric bolling, greg gutfeld and dana perino. it's 5:00 here in new york city and this is "the five." today isis announced the death of another u.s. hostage but this time it's not claiming responsibility. american aid worker was captured in syria in 2013. isiss said she was just killed by jordanian air strikes. u.s. officials say they haven't had evidence to back up the claim. here is video of mueller before
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she was abducted. >> i reject the brutality and killings that syrian people are committing against syrian because silence is participation in this crime i declare my participation. >> isis is growing stronger but the obama administration is once again down playing the global terror threat. listen to the president's national security adviser earlier. >> while the dangers we face may be more numerous and varied they are not of the nature we confronted during world war ii or during the cold war. we cannot afford to be buffetted by alarmism and a nearly instantaneous news cycle. >> i thought it was used in 101 but seems to be used with
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regular frequency by this administration. dana, care to opine? >> the speech was given to intellectuals. and also i felt like she was also trying again to say we are so much better than presidents who have come before us because we realize we have to keep our heads about us and not do anything rash. in the meantime the world is saying he is turning the world inside out and looking for more leadership from the united states. sadly from this document i don't think they are necessarily going to get it since the document wasn't new strategy that they were putting forward that they do periodically at the white house. >> it seems that they are not taking it as seriously and are thinking about it in more philosophical terms. >> they have a wish and not a plan. there is no strategy.
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you listen to the speech. you heard her talk about existential threats. you can't get it sorry. you heard her talk about the economy. where are they going with this? they are all over the map. there is no defined strategy and no defined plan and they can't defeat an enemy that they can't name. i can comment on that piece of video that we showed. that breaks your heart when you see that aid worker probably being told what to say just to save her own life. you see that and then these slime balls at isis saying the jordanians kill her in an air strike with no proof. we are going to get to tom soon. i will defer everything i have thought about these people to what he says and we will hear about it in a minute. >> it's a good one.
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obama calls his foreign policy plan strategic patience. that's the phrase. there is a rallying crime. someone should tell him he is running a country and not a powerpoint presentation waiting for slides. history repeats itself. this kind of mentality allows evil to flourish. history will not judge president obama positively until he finds his spine. >> i was still trying to figure out what existential means. >> a threat is a threat. it isn't something imagined. >> overwhelming, clear obvious. >> existential is an apocalyptic threat to your whole existence. it is a great word. >> bob, trying to dodge the
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issue. clearly this is a problem because not only does the present use the same terms and methodology to talk above this, that we are above this in the united states but really everyone else and including people in this country see us as falling below the call for duty. >> well i think if i were going to do this strategy i would probably have chairman of joint chiefs of staff do it at the pentagon and not at brookings. the staging has me a little perplexed. i guess maybe there is something about that. as soon as i saw that i thought this was a discussion about the future of the northern chinese provinces. i don't know. >> no one knows. you know who does know representative tom
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representative cotton. >> how many representatives were in guantanamo? >> zero. >> how many with were there in 1998 when they bombed embassies? >> 1993 in the first world trade center bombing. >> in my opinion in guantanamo there are too many empty beds and cells there. we should be sending more there to keep this country safe. as far as i'm concerned every last one of them can rot in hell. as long as they don't do that they can rot in guantanamo bay. >> sounds like a plan. >> message sent and likely message received. if the terrorists out there wonder where we stand hopefully they realize a lot of us stand behind tom cotton versus what the administration is putting out there. >> they may like the rhetoric. >> i do, i think he is a fresh
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voice in washington, d.c. there are many more veterans from the more recent wars we had showing congress woman from hawaii. we talked about earnest and tom cotton is examples i can think of off of the top of my head. they provide a different perspective. you want to listen to them because they understand the threat more intimately because they were there and their families are back here in the united states and understood the reason that you had a global war on terror and what the aim was. i think what he is getting at is we are looking for the administration to tell us do you understand the threat what is the plan to go forward? we are not the only ones. the president has so many audiences when he speaks. and the messages to the muslim world i think are troubling. so isis is trying to say that
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the jordanians killed an american and are trying to further their aims to try to draw jordan more deeply into the conflict to try to destabilize the region by destabilizing in their hope the kingdom of jordan. >> this is a very simple and very idiotic statement to make but it has to be made for the establishment media and for the white house. 9/11 happened before, not after our response to 9/11. somehow it has been reversed. they look at everything as though terror is a response to horrifying things when actually it is our response to a horrifying thing. we need to get mo of gitmo. i know that obama would rather kill than capture which also i
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think is great but that doesn't mean you let go of the surviving infidels. you have to put them somewhere. that is what gitmo does. >> done it effectively. >> i know bolling is investing. >> let's go fund me. >> seriously, there is so much support in this country. let's do the right thing and keep us safe at home. what is the problem with gitmo because it was so successful and worked that well? the only time gitmo failed is when you release them out the doors to go back to yemen and gather with their friends. >> if gitmo was solar powered and had wind mills maybe it would have been successful. >> i think it is fairly first of all they were released from guantanamo in two administrations, republican and democrat. >> fair point. >> i think the other thing is this is as unusual a threat
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islamic terrorists that we face. i haven't noticed -- leaving aside obviously obama's reluctance for whatever reason i have not seen other leaders. we were talking about this. where are the churchles of the world now. >> king of jordan. pretty close. >> i'm talking about -- europe, i'm not seeing it. >> here is the problem is that the administration is so reluctant to say that this is the work of islamic extremists that this is being done in the name of islam. just ask some of the leaders. take a listen to the radical imam justifying the burning of that pilot. >> the fact is that the pilots who fly drones and other bombing campaigns have burned a lot of men, women and children.
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they have an argument to retaliate in a similar manner. >> justifiable homicide is what he is saying. >> this imam says burnings are okay according to the quran. both are relying on this book to define what is barbaric. this is not comforting. i don't need a book to tell me that burning someone alive good or bad unless it is a hardy boys mystery. this is ridiculous. we are listening to people who we shouldn't be showing that video of that scum bag. i don't know why we do. >> we just did. >> what it shows is the islamic religion is being hijacked by a group of people taking it to the most extreme. i think the world is going to turn against them faster and faster. i think this jordanian thing is
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like when isis did the first beheading. remember the world said this is not exactly what we expect out of these guys. we found out what they are about. >> and then another news cycle about something else. >> we also found out that those beheadings on tape were actually working to recruit people to the jihad. >> i understand that. >> make a quick thought. i am so tired of seeing imam as well. he is the al sharpton of radical islam. i can't believe he believes half the stuff he is saying. he says these things to create media attention. >> we gave it to him. he is a smart guy. >> he has a voice. he is out there. he is very vocal. that's what it is. we are at war with mainstream islam. >> at least he is saying what it is. >> which is what? >> i think the recruiting portion of these videos is much stronger than our ability to
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fight them. unless, for example, i think what we should have done the other day when jordanians said we are doing more bombing we should have said we are going to help you and should have been overwhelming. now they did a lot, not enough. so all of those isis people that got to scatter and hide to be able to regroup somewhere we should have just flattened it. >> carpet bombing. >> drawing jordanians into a bigger conflict not in our interest. >> we can argue this all we want. now it is a question of whether we put troops on the ground. that is the issue. is it yes or no? otherwise what more can you do? next step maybe you bomb more targets and get more intelligence on the ground. ultimately we need to make a decision as a country to go in on the ground with troops. >> isis has a headquarters. we know that they hang out in a
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city. anyone there has to know there could be a day when hell fire missiles come down on them. maybe it is time to level it. >> that's going to be interesting. >> you know, that's the whole point here. the question is are we willing to commit this declare war and put troops on the ground? the situation has changed. since we said we rur going to pull out and obama made decisions the world has changed. now it is the time for another decision. >> i would say because of the decisions the world has changed over there. i think that is an important thing. there were troops on the ground. he pulled them out. good job. >> winning again, 2016 can't come soon enough. >> instead of condemning islamic terrorism our president shockingly condemned christians at the prayer breakfast yesterday. that outrage next. it's facebook friday.
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♪ yesterday at the prayer breakfast president obama brought up the crusades in light of modern evil. something about our high horse. >> unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place remember that during the crusades and the inquisition people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. >> talk about a slight comparing modern day islam to medieval atrocities. he is right the crusades were an awful thing responding to another awful thing, an islamic holy war. it happened like 700 or 800 years ago. it stopped. this is 2015 so you should stop to or else. the fact is president obama spoke the truth. when it comes to religion islamism is the slowest runner
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in a marathon. we are here. they are still back there and some want to stay there and take us back with them. maybe during the holocaust some academics said these horrors happened throughout history. when you compare something happening now to a time before indoor plumbing it reminds you where the president's head is in the sand. it is why he sees islamophobia in his sleep. the crusades were brought up to make us the aggressor which works for an academic. the president condemns terror but relativism leads to ruminations that needs precious time. instead of leading he is educating us on our own transgressions. i hope we don't get graded for it. i dozed after the second year. >> i was hoping you weren't going to do that. >> no one expected this spanish inquisition at breakfast.
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they were hoping something nice. >> probably the breakfast didn't go down well. one day just one day, please give me something to work with. this is a prayer breakfast, a national prayer breakfast. the most active christians in the united states. >> how does it make you feel as a christian? >> it doesn't make me feel good. the point is i get blasted by my own side for not being strong. how can i be strong about that? what am i going to say? it was a bad place bad analogy. >> what does it tell you? >> i will give him this, this is the first point at the time that he ever linked religion to terror. >> the thing is that what he does is mask over the fact that isis and terrorists, al qaeda, taliban have killed more muslims
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than christians. it's not a holy war. >> it's not. good point. >> eric this mentality in a weird way he indirectly excuses behavior by always referencing a prior evil. if something bad happens you can say this happened before. you can do that all the time. >> you want to talk history let's talk about the reasons for the crusades and maybe you understand a little bit more why it is offensive to 2.4 billion christians around the world that you equate crusades to what is going on right now. i am deeply offended. i said it yesterday i think he owes the christian population not just here in america but around the world an apology. do it for yourself. this will stay with him. this is one of the things where a year down the road, two years five years down the road they will say remember that speech at that breakfast? what a mistake he made there. he ruptured his own achilles.
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>> the other thing was the tone was so preachy rather than an uplifting prayer breakfast like i'm going to preach to you. >> he is not framing terror as a reciprocal thing. as a reflection of centuries of religious madness but that is not a strategy to fight terror. >> i hear a guy who seems disgusted by christian privilege and american privilege. and he is lecturing us and lecturinging all of the god fearing christians around the world and in some bizarre way to try to justify the heinous crimes and acts of barbarism that have occurred. to even try to do this bizarre moral equivalency and comparing it to acts by christians is really missing the point. honest i think this is one of the worst things he has said or done as president. >> insulting islam by comparing
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it to medieval bad stuff. >> it is bad across the board. >> the thing i think -- nobody seems to be making the point this is a civil war among muslims for both their religion their lifestyle, their economic progress. they should be in this fight. i understand why we are in a better position to do it than anybody else is. where are the rest of them? if we were not there they would all go down and all be subject to it. in the meantime -- >> look ad jordanian pilot coming from a great family. >> i would like to see the saudis, almost all weapons over there are our weapons that we have sold or given to them. it is time for them to step up. we can't carry this for ourselves. >> they are. >> are they really? >> they are in. >> how do you want me to prove that?
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it's like groundhog day every day. >> a list of arab nations involved in the fight. there are three possibly four involved in air strikes, probably eight or ten involved in training, supporting buying military equipment. >> you are giving them all a pass. why don't you put troops there? >> oh my god. jordan has troops on the ground too. i don't know what to say about this. >> the jordanians are going to fight on the ground against isis. >> that is how they have the intelligence. >> they can't get the bartender to get me a beer. i'm trying to go to break. >> can't see you over everyone else. >> you know what? a little flag. >> you do the tease. >> next on "the five" new developments on nbc news anchors war story scandal that can threaten his career. coming up. i'm greg gutfeld.
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the chopper whopper scandal widened today. nbc news is reportedly investigating its chief anchor for falsely claiming he was in a helicopter in iraq hit be a rocket propelled grenade. will williams get to keep his job? the pilot just further debunked the account writing this. our flight was uneventful with the exception of a desert dust storm. brian williams reported on the david letterman show that the captain had received a purple heart for a wound to the ear. i do not have a purple heart and my ears are fine. brian williams' account is not
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true. >> so nbc today said they were going to launch an internal investigation which i took to mean a couple of things. what is to investigate? he already apologized. so the only thing left is nbc's decision about whether the apology is accepted by them or if they think this is so bad they make a change. it is only a stall tactic. i think they are hoping something else will happen over the weekend and this will be front pages and work to rehabilitate his reputation and next week he can make fun of himself. >> media blog 10,000 people responded. 70% said he should lose his job. >> this was sort of on the edge yesterday. i see the front page of the "new york times." it is one of the things where they go away fast or they build. here is the other problem.
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you can be sure everybody is going over the tape of things he said and done. if you find one more thing what do you do? >> you just teed this up perfectly. called into question some of his past reporter. let's look back at his katrina coverage. >> when you look out of your hotel room window in the french quarter and watch a man float face down. i beat that storm. i was there before it arrived. i rode it out with people who later died in the super dome. the french quarter didn't flood and williams reminisced with another sensational story. >> my week, two weeks there was not helped by the fact that i accidently ingested some of the flood water. i became very sick. our hotel was overrun with gangs. i was rescued in the stairwell of a five star hotel in new
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orleans. >> well, i don't know. he claims he saw a corpse or so during katrina. i'm seeing one now with his reputation. i like how he is always talking as though it is spontaneous. he is so full of crap he doesn't need to dye his hair. if the latest denials by the pilot is true i don't see how he can hang on to his job. tom brokaw wants williams fired because there are two ls in his name. >> this is what he is going to be remembered for. it is a huge problem kind of what happened with dan rather. that is what people remember. i think his reputation as a journalist is forever tarnished because of these situations. >> he can go to msnbc. >> there you go. >> that's the solution! >> i think this is exactly right. remember it looked like it was
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going away and then picked up steam again. >> rather never apologized. he still doesn't. brian williams did apologize. there is the difference. >> dan rather was trying to take down a president. that's different. and accepting the alteruations. >> what's the frequency? >> an entirely different story. >> i like the analogy. >> what's the frequency, beckel. >> this must be friday.
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it's time for facebook friday. we answer your questions now. i'm pulling them out of here. this is from dell t. would you ever write a speech for a presidential candidate? >> yes, if i firmly believe that this person could actually make this world a better place and make america what it used to be i would leave my job and do that. but who is that person? i don't know. >> you. >> maybe you might get a call. >> eric, this is for you. do you still actively invest? if so in what? do you make trades yourself or do others manage your money for you? >> i do all of my own investing. we have rules here at fox where if you get involved in a stock or asset you have to keep it for a certain period of time.
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the decision has to be a lot different than what i recommend other people to do. do your own homework. you have your best ideas. fox business gives you great advice. don't listen -- whoever is telling you what to do with your money you probably have a better idea. >> car washes. >> what about invisible tattoo ink? >> tattoo removal i think is a good idea. >> you were going to use a butter knife. >> bob, where is your favorite place to vacation? i know this. >> jackson hole wyoming. >> i thought you were going to say key west. >> key west is right up there. >> one or the other. you have plans? >> i can't get in my apartment. >> not yet. >> is there a big hole there? jackson hole i assume is a giant hole. >> good question. if you are in jackson hole,
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wyoming, if you can send a picture. >> there has to be a hole there. >> it is surrounded by mountains and jackson is down by the snake river. >> kimberly, if you could celebrate valentine's day with any man in the world who would you choose? >> don't put me on the spot now. >> ronan. >> good answer. >> that's her son. >> we like all the same things. milk chocolate with the caramel inside. >> does he like salami, too? >> 100% loves it. did you consider any other breeds before picking jasper? >> i did not. here is a picture. i fell in love and look at him. that is a good looking dog. they are magical puppies. >> we have to look at that dog made up in the wall. >> the calendars. you are lucky you have one.
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>> the calendar is in my kitchen. >> greg, one more for you. how many hours of sleep do you get per night? >> i probably get like seven. if you get more than seven that's too much. >> i don't think so. >> you are weird. i usually go to bed around midnight. i do some writing when i come home from red eye and write for a couple of hours drinking. >> red wine. >> i wander around the apartment in a stupor and then i fall down somewhere. i wake up. i don't know where i am. i have to talk to the authorities about the blood. >> where is your wife during all of this? >> poor thing. >> i feel sorry for her. >> bill asks you said your son can now out-bench press you. how much weight are you talking about? >> 240 is my max. >> i can do 260. >> mind you this is on a free bench, not an assisted bench. free weight 240.
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the kid can outdo me. he is about 35 40 pounds lighter than me. >> he can bench press 255? >> i am lucky to get 240. he can do 240. bob, what is your favorite movie of all time? >> "silence of the lambs". >> i knew that. kimberly, what is your favorite memory as san francisco's first lady? >> meeting the royals. the duchess of cornwall. >> you had the 49ers. you probably met joe montana. >> many times. >> but i lost the 49ers in divorce. i got to keep the giants. >> i know i was in all the parades. you bring this up all the time. i did the wave. i did the whole story on orilely
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last night. my other favorite memory was working with california pacific medical center with the children's cancer ward and the incredible doctors there. >> that is a good memory. >> did you ever meet john "the count"? a pitcher for the giants? >> i know who he is. i didn't meet him but i have seen him play many times. >> we will skip mine. what is the weirdest thing you have ever eaten, greg? >> reindeer. no puffin in iceland. it was disgusting like eating shoe laces. it was great because it is an adorable little animal to eat. >> you are going to get them after you. >> i don't care. >> alligator jerky. it's fantastic. >> is that tasty? could you get me some? i love jerky. >> i bet we can get some. i ate it in utah.
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>> baloot is the egg with a chick inside just before it is about to hatch. they bury them and take the top off -- >> that is disgusting. >> so gross. >> kimberly? >> a great question. >> escargot. >> snails. >> i can't think of anything. i don't eat fish. >> one of the most disgusting on the planet. we have facebook friday. we hope you do too. next is have you ever been on an awkward first date. we know bachelor bob has. he has tips on what not to do when you are looking for love next.
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getting stood up is number one. that is never good. also on the list, spilling food on your clothes. when the other person burps. and when the waiter brings the bill. i assume that means -- let me ask that at the top. who is for splitting bills and who is for paying for it? >> guy pays. >> dana? >> i came up with the rule today. i haven't dated in like 18 years. i think the guy pays the first three times. if it goes further if she wants to continue to she would pick up the fourth one. that is a signal to say this is going somewhere. >> where did you come up with that? >> i made it up. >> cool. >> to this thing, what's wrong with awkward? is dates are supposed to be awkward because that means it matters. i will tell you a story. this is a bit embarrassing. this is a first date a picnic in a park that i planned. i had wine and cheese and music.
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i brought flowers. a frisbee had landed on the blanket so i stabbed these two college students to death. i knew the date wasn't going to work out because she wouldn't help me bury the bodies. >> i knew this wasn't true. >> you want to pick up the check or have the dude pick it up? >> what are you asking? >> i know you would rather have the guy pick up the bill. >> why is that? >> why? >> because you can. the point is i have no problem being participatory in a financial way. i think it is nice. i think it is nice to give the man flowers. if you can help pay for the bill i think that is nice. you don't want to make them fee emas cuilated. >> can i give you an awkward
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first date? >> sure. >> first date with my wife she was drinking red good enough wine is the problem. >> let me say i rarely have dinners on my dates. "one more thing" is up next. man (sternly): where do you think you're going? mr. mucus: to work, with you. it's taco tuesday. man: you're not coming. i took mucinex to help get rid of my mucusy congestion. i'm go od all day. [announcer:] mucinex keeps working.
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time now for "one more thing." something very important happened that should have happened a long time ago because the secretary of the army announced that the victims of the fort hood massacre from 2009 will receive the purple heart. this is a turn about for the military which initially described the acts as work place violence. this is an important distinction and the families were definitely in support of that. we are happy that that is going in the right way. by the way, congress made it possible by changing the law a
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little bit there. you notice my colleague and cohosts there we are matching enjoying the color red and celebrating women's health with the american heart association and national wear red day. we have done this every year now and will continue to do it because heart disease and strokes is one of the number one killers of women across this country. the good news is it is preventable. you can change your life and change your health and make your family members happy in the meantime. you can go to the website for more information. >> listen i know you are not going to like to hear this but welcome to the obama recovery. 329,000 jobs in december. average growth 336,000, highest three month average in 17 years. >> you missed the best news.
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i am giving you another piece, wages went up. >> they made me take that off. >> they did not. >> they did, too. >> that was the best one of them. >> it's friday so -- ♪ sometimes the fish jumps right in the boat. six weeks ago brian williams for ignoring jonathan gruber for 40 days straight and for the question he asked about whether general hayden would have approved of his family being water boarded. this week for lying about your valor and about being shot at back in 2003 and possibly lying about what happened in katrina, those can be excused. but for violating all of journalistic ethics and for destroying your credibility a way not seen since dan rather you earn this week's fool of the
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week. >> and greg is next. >> red eye a couple of days ago i had the pleasure of having bob beckel and his brother, graham on. it got a bit ugly. this was the response. >> how dare you? who are you, man? >> same blood stream. >> that is so inappropriate. >> i'm inappropriate? >> that's just bad choice and a sorry career. >> if you want to know what bob said you will have to watch "red eye" on saturday. probably one of the most bizarre shows in existence. >> two beckels. >> some of my favorite people in d.c. are news photographers that cover the white house.
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there is a great man named larry downing. he travelled all over the world and he has won the reuters global journalist of the year award twice. he is retiring and will be very much missed. you can se has now left her wife. she is focusing on her family's well-being. see you monday at 9:00. welcome to "hannity." new developments tonight. nbc news brian williams is still at work today behind the anchor desk, but according to reports the peacock network is allegedly investigating their lead anchor for lying about being in a military helicopter that was struck by rpg fire in iraq while covering the war back in 2003. according to a report by the "new york post" there's anger towards williams within the network which has set up a so-called truth squad made up of investigators and reporter to investigate his tall tales. this comes as his credibility is being questioned
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