deal. >> right. >> you're an inspiration to so many people. great job. >> whatever the cost is the book. >> more on the after the show show. >> eric will be on at five on "the five." bye, everybody. bill: fox news alert. blaming the media for overhyping the threalt of terror. president obama claiming news outlets report on terrorism because it makes a quote sexy story. martha: despite growing terror warnings from his own generals about isis and other terror groups he says the media avoids covering stories like climate change because terror stories

sells. >> if it bleeds it leads. you show crime stories and fires. that's what folks watch. it's all about ratings. bill: byron york, you saw the entire interview what did you think of it? >> you have to remember it was a obama-friendly website. but what he said to terrorism is entirely consistent with his efforts to down play the -- john playthreats. to claim in his state of the union address isis is losing territory when it is gaining territory. what he said is entirely

consistent with the what is he tried to downplay the threat. bill: he's asked do you think the media overstates the level of alarm. and he says yes and i don't blame the media for that. and it eventually ends up on climate change. >> the question was a setup. don't you think climate change and other problems are more serious. he referred to the killing at kosher market in paris after the "charlie hebdo" attack, he referred those as randomly shooting a bunch of:folks in a paris deli. the kosher market was clearly a jewish target and the president seems to be downplaying all that. bill: i think the better way to

answer this is when you find beheadings on your laptop, that's what terror is all about. here is another point about the arc of violence in the world today. >> the trajectory of this planet overall is one towards less violence more tolerance, less strive, less poverty. bill: in other words more peaceful. >> the president's secretary of defense said the world was falling apart. the world may be less vie flenlt sweden or a comfortable subject bush the united states. but look at what's napping syria, iraq, pakistan, afghanistan. there is an unprecedented level

of violence that threatened to come to europe and the united states. so remember that talk after the state of the union when a number of people, not just the president's critics said he seemed to be out of touch and he was trying to make things appear better than they actually are. this is on steroids. bill: out of washington today thank you. martha: the interview was stunning in many ways. the president went even further in talking to vox likening terrorist acts to crime that happens in big cities, comparing his:job as commander-in-chief as that a their of a city dealing with crime. bill: talk to us on twitter if you want to talk about that. martha: we are just learning about brand-new airstrikes

against isis targets. these strikes are being carried out by the united arab emirates. they stopped their support for the coalition after the execution of the jordanian pilot. they have now resumed those flights today. bill: the syrian dictator bashar al-assad says he's in the loop on coalition airstrikes. he says his government gets information about strikes inside his country from third parties. sir yeah in the midst of a civil -- syria in the midst of a civil war that has killed 200,000 people today. martha: president obama expected to ask congress to allow the use of military force. he will ask for war powers.

it could come as early as today. it would be the first war vote by congress since lawmakers authorized the iraq war 13 years ago. kevin cork is live at the white house. why is the president making this move asking for the aumf at congress? >> in a word, flexibility. by giving the congress more options, it makes for strange bed fellows inside the beltway. there are a lot of people who normally don't bark the president who seem to be squarely in his corner. >> i agree congress should authorize the use of force against the islamic state not only to put to rest any questions about the use of power. but to demonstrate to the world mayoral cams resolve against the

fight against tir jar. -- against terror. martha: there will be pushback i imagine as well. right? >> reporter: no question about that. a lot of the congressional leaders say trust but verify. you can trust the intention of the white house wanting to do better by our troops and be stronger on a world stage but you have to verify that the president has a plan and a willingness to lead. >> we haven't seen an effective plan how you are going to degrade and destroy isis. isis is an evil, you are not going to reform isis. >> this will get a lot of attention here today and tomorrow when it's expected he will ask congress for the authorized use of military

force. >> kevin thank you very much. bill: extreme weather alert. it's getting pummeled dealing with a record-setting amount of snow, 2 feet in some areas. almost 6 feet. and a new record. molly line is in boston today. you have got a strong shovel. how's it going. martha: trying to shovel, no microphone. bill: it's so cold we cannot hear her. maybe we'll reestablish contact with molly. we can see her fine but the audio cable ... have you seen some of these images? the snow is higher than they

are. martha: a couple of feet in boss tons over the course of the last storms. they had four storms in the last couple weeks. there is no more shovel. you have got to get in there with the backhoe and they dump it in dump trucks. bill: some of these dump trucks can melt the ice. they are thinking of dump something of it in the boston harbor which they don't like to do. martha: they have gotten special permission to do it in some cases because they have nowhere else to go. the icy roads may have played a role in a deadly pileup in new jersey. police say the crash involved 15 vehicles including tractor trailers and a fully loaded bus. it happened during a storm with a freezing mix of rain and snow and that turned out to be deadly. one person lost their lives in this accident, dozens were

injured. the crash is still under investigation. more dangerous in some ways than the snow which you can get some traction on. this was black and slick. the west is really warm. the last week of open enrollment for obamacare. the white house releasing good news for people qualified for subsidies but bad news for the taxpayer. martha: remember drew peterson? new charges for him. he's accused of killing his third wife and suspected in the disappearance of his fourth wife stacy peterson. bill: the president::downplaying the threat of terror. >> for him to downplay this threat of isis to our security

is delusional and incredibly unfair to the american people.

martha: new charges for drew peterson. remember the former illinois policeman who because accused of trying to hire a hitman to kill the lead prosecutor in his 2012 murder trial but peterson's

attorney says there may be more to that case. >> there have been people who tried to capitalize, who are in jail withdrew and tried to capitalize by saying he did things or said things the past. and i'm hopeful this is just another instance of that. just a better conman. martha: he was convicted of murdering his third wife in a bathtub and he's a us next disappearance of his third wife, stacy peterson. bill: what will the u.s. do about russia's increasing role in ukraine. president obama says he will wait to see what comes out of these high-stake talks before making a final decision. >> it's true if diplomacy fails what i asked my team to do is look at other options.

what other means can we put in place to change mr. putin's calculus? and the possibility of lethal defensive weapons is one of those options being examined. but i have not made a decision about that. bill: john bolton, good morning to you. halting language from the president. will he give lethal weapons to ukraine to defend himself? >> i don't think so. i don't think the man knows what he's talking about. first he says if diplomacy ultimately fails. how long is that going to take? how much of sue crane is going to be left? then he says he will consider all options with respect to syria and iran's nuclear weapons program. not much encouragement there. an says he would consider lethal defensive weapons. what is he talking about? what is a lethal defensive

weapon? an m-16? is there such a thing as defensive hand grenades? if a weapon is lethal it will be offensive or defensive. that kind of confusion from the president of the united states encourages putin in the kremlin and discourages western europeans. bill: i guess that means more than mres and night vision goggles. angela merkel is clearly holding back. what are the germans afraid of? >> i think what she is worried about is two more years of obama's presidency. she might be prepared to take a harder line against putin. but she sees no american leadership, she sees no sign the president is willing to take military action against this aggression.

if the united states isn't going to lead she is going to cut the best deal she can for germany and that's it. bill: you have some advisors to the president and democrats in congress putting pressure on him to deliver on behalf of kiev. >> i can't wait to hear what he believes a defensive weapon encompasses. when you do 20% of what you should do six months too late, that's not necessarily a step in the right direction. i think with this feckless response from the united states and nato. whatever the objective is, putin is continuing to pursue it. he's not worried about targeted economic sanctions. but the response from the west, i don't think is a major factor. john mccain said this yesterday

afternoon. >> i'm not sending a sing. american boot on the ground although we may have trainers with equipment. but i'm not for sending any ukrainians aren't asking for that. they are asking for equipment to defend themselves. bill: how much of:iran is the elephant in the room? how much much that is a stalling technique? if you have got a deadline on the iran negotiations that allows russia to do what it weren't the next 6-7 weeks. >> i think the president is trying to push off a crisis over the ukraine because he's obsessed with signing this nuclear weapons deal with iran. i think he wants to do it before there is a prospect of a vote on sanctions in the senate. they will try to fulfill the

last year with details to be filled in by june. i think the president is trying to hold on the ukraine front so he can appease iran. bill: times are ticking. appreciate your time. martha: new details in that deadly car crash that involves bruce jenner. what authorities are saying about the victim. bill: new numbers about how much obamacare might cost the average customer but it's the taxpayer on the hook for a lot of money. >> we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it away from the fog of the controversy.

bill: a little bit more about the deadly crash involving bruce jenner. authorities say the woman killed was driving without a license. jenner's publicist say he was not using his phone at the time and will cooperate fully with that investigation. martha: you will foot the bill for obamacare. big surprise, right? the obama administration says thage customer will get 72% of the cost of the healthcare paid for by somebody else. guess who that somebody else is. it's you the taxpayer. a supreme court decision is looming on whether those federal subsidies are ebb legal. first of -- first of all the cost

gets covered by 72%. >> for every $100 that's shelled out to these obamacare exchanges, $72 comes directly from the federal taxpayer. that's an enormous subsidy. onage if you get a subsidy $268 per month will be paid for you by the federal taxpayer. you will only pay on average $105. martha: everyone should be covered and everyone deserves healthcare. so everyone who cannot pea forward healthcare gets 72% of their average paid for. >> that adds up. obamacare is supposed to cover 20-30 million people who don't currently have insurance. martha: the deal was over time the cost of healthcare overall

will fall and everybody will benefit from that. >> at this moment that is not happening. especially when you factor in doctor bills and the rest of it. at the supreme court 6.5 million people currently get their health coverage from federal exchanges. 9 out of 10 of them get the subsidy. the supreme court ruling that will come out this june, if they say those subsidies from federal exchanges are legal the subsidies disappear and obamacare becomes unaffordable for millions of people. it becomes the unaffordable came act. >> the states set up their own exchanges. so if a state chose not to set up an exchange then they are under the law the wait was written according to those arguing this, the federal government cannot step in and give subsidies to an exchange. >> 34 states opted not set up

exchanges. the supreme court may rule that no subsidies can be paid to the people in those 34 states. >> in the original law that's the wait was written. if you don't set up an exchange then you don't get federal money. reporter: speaker he localsy said i have got to payments before you can see what's in it. it was very, very bad reply written. hence his potential to completely disrupt obamacare. martha: when do we expect this decision? there is be a big deal. we'll see. stuart, thank you very much. bill: a piece of las vegas history has been reduced to dust. oh but those walls could talk.

what stays in the vegas will stay in vegas. the latest hotel to be knocked down. martha: backlash after president obama compares the war on terror to fighting crime in a big city. why is the president downplaying the overall plate. >> he thinks if i tam it doirnt will go away and people would ignore it if the press would not hype it. people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our angie's list app. visit angieslist.com today. ♪

martha: there is a hearing about to get underway to discuss looming national security threats, look at strategies, budget short falls hampering our ability to respond those threats. the ambassador to turkey is scheduled to testify. we'll keep an eye on that.

in the meantime. 9:31. boston bombard by another round of snow. they don't have enough room to put all that stuff now. the president's request for new war powers to go to congress as early as today. it would be the first warp vote in congress in more than 10 years. a senate committee holding a hearing on the measles vaccine. the outbreak hat spread to 17 states and 120 cases. >> criticism after president obama compared the recent deadly terror attacks to fighting crime in a big city. >> it's entirely legitimate for the american people to be deeply concerned when you have got a bunch of violent vicious zealots who behead people or

randomly shoot a bunch of folks in a deli in paris. it's right and appropriate for to us be vigilant and aggressive in trying to deal with that. the same way a big city mayor has to cut the crime rate down if he wants that city to thrive. martha: rich how are you and rick unger gentlemen welcome. rick to randomly shoot a bunch of folks in a deli in paris. that struck a lot of people as an odd way to describe what happened there. >> if you actually read the text of what he said, i think he wasn't suggesting the parisian apack was a random act of violence. i think what he was saying, the guy goes into this deli and you

happen to be there you were killed. i think there is some splitting of the hairs. i have some problems with the president said. i'm not sure that's where the focus should be. martha: if you are one of those people who worked or lived in that area where it was a kosher deli which was specifically targeted because it was a jewish establishment and you lost one of your loved ones and you hear the president of the united states say randomly shoot a bunch of folks. >> these are islamic terrorists who deliberately targeted jews. but he avoids saying that. this is the return of the jv term frame of mind. flrp no domestic terrorists rolling tanks into territory to take it or spouting radical religious ideology that they want to recruit people to carry out terror attacks.

that's what's happening and that's what he can't be honest about. he's not that concerned about this threat. he wants to paper this threat and hand it over to someone else. martha: who is convincing him of this perspective when it is not shared by francois hollande. and david cameron who clearly see a link in these things. >> at the end of his presidency he's liberated to say what he believes. we complain he doesn't have a strategy on the war on radical islam. reason he doesn't have a strategy is because he thinks there is no need for a strategy because it's random violence. this is what's so terrify being the man who is commander-in-chief of a country which is essentially you a civilization under attack. >> i think charles is way

overstating the case. i have been on record complaining about the white house's failure to use the term islamic terrorism. but what the president seems to be doing lateyly, and i can't tell you why he's leaving off explanatory sentences. he did it at the prayer breakfast, he did it yesterday. if he would take it a step further this would all get cleared up. i'm not sure why he's doing it. martha: we know there was this meeting of middle east leaders and there was a couple head of question panel organizations that met at at white house and it seems the focus was islamophobia. so don't worry. >> one doesn't negate the other. martha: is that what the president should be focusing on? most of the islamic community

seems to recognize their own people are being killed in' larger numbers than anyone else. >> the threat of islamophobia isn't as much of a threat of islamic terrorism. people are ghght name of islam and the prophet and killing people. once you are the president of the united states and you are not willing to say the term "islamic" you can't follow the logic to the natural conclusions. the reason he's having trouble explaining it because he can't be honest on what it is. >> i don't think it's fair to say islamic terrorism is worse than islamophobia, i think they are both bad. let's not make this about religion. let's make it about people. martha: he's saying it's not a

big deal. he says there are school shootings that crop up. if you are the mayor of a big city you have to crack down on crime. do you believe that's an parallel? i can name five generals and pentagon leaders who disagree. >> where i think he's going wrong, he misunderstands why people are so interested, why the media coverage is so shavie. martha: he said climate change is a bigger issue. >> i don't necessarily agree with that. but what he's missing is it's not about how many people are killed. otherwise we would be talking about heart disease. it's about the fear americans have rightly so that the way we live, our entire way of life can be upset by these people. he's missing that part. he should be saying it. >> he's deliberately missing it.

i would agree islam phones were taking over in lots of territories in major countries and key recruiting people to go and blow up muslims. is lamb foabs aren't doing that. islamic terrorists aren't doing that. >> i'm more focused on what can happen in the united states. the president has much of an obligation protect innocent muscle limbs. >> a magazine was shot up by islamic terrorists in paris and the president of the united states has a meeting with islamophobia. >> can you imagine he didn't have meetings about "charlie hebdo"? >> he doesn'tage does doesn't acknowledge

it exists. >> what you are hear being is the one you are citing. bill: moments to go, senate committee on capitol hill. they approved ashton carter to be the next second tearingy of defense. it will go to the full senate for a vote. stay tuned for more on that. martha: a piece. old school vegas is nothing but a memory. they do thisser five years or so to make room for a newer bigger hotel. the clarion hotel had many big names over the decades. it closed last year.

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>> he walked into the medical clinic and yelled allahu akbar. bill: staff sergeant manning recalling the horror. he was one of the people tbhownltd attack in 2009. but for those survivors the struggles have not ended. the army classified the act as workplace violence. the defense department says all the victims will finally receive one of the military's highest honors and that's a purple heart. from north carolina today one victim who was shot 7 times and left blind in one eye. how are you doing? >> i'm doing pretty good,

considering. bill: you wanted a purple heart for years now you will get one. what does that mean to you? >> it means it's another mission that's completed and this overall battle we have undertaken since the 5 november shooting. i'm still thinking about the 14 families the decreased. there is no medal that can replace a loved one but it will less be the blow. bill: congress changed the definition for how you receive or become eligible for a purple heart. i don't know if that makes you feel any better. but at least now six years down the road you have something you have sought. >> absolutely. but a question we have to ask ourselves is who and how would they even claim the terrorist

act we saw that day be claimed workplace violence when there has necessity been a documented case of workplace violence the military. so the individuals that decided to label it workplace violence, i wonder how many of them actually wore a uniform or have gone to visit our troops in combat to know what we go through from day to day. bill: the law said the perpetrator said the he had to be directed toward the act of terrorism. and war al awlaki killed by a u.s. drone years back. you will get the purple heart. but to me it doesn't appear your journey is complete at that point. what else do you need? >> the question we are asking with the purple heart are they

going to make the benefit maccage retroactive. with the combat related stress for compensation, a lot of us when we medically retired we were getting the disability and military pay. however, with some of us our military pay has stopped which means crac is supposed to cover the place to compensate for it. the other piece you have to ask yourself as well, a lot of us are fathers and mothers and there is a benefit package that comes with the purple heart with our children furthering their education as well as with us. you have to ask yourself this question. sought younger soldiers wounded that day they joined the military to better their lives. a lot of them had not been to college yet. even though they have the opportunity to go to college now, it's more difficult because of ptsd or tbi. so the monetary benefit would be

beneficial with a lot of these service members. bill: your own journey continues. purchase adjusted in a whole new life. coaching volleyball, athletic director in fayetteville, north carolina. >> it's basketball. that's therapeutic for me. basketball feels know pain. giving back to these young fewu future leaders because i'm not even suppose to be here. it wasn't my time to go home yet. i feel the best way to give back grace of god with me still surviving is to help shape the hearts and souls of young people. that's what i'm doing and also being an athletic director in fayetteville. bill: there is a reason. you know that now. thank you for your time today. alonzo hundredsford shot 7 times in the fall of 2009. thank you for sharing your story.

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bill: a police helicopter captured two gunmen pointing their weapons at passing cars. the men try to hijack a car when

the tire spikes stop their own vehicle. one of the suspects hit by a car at that point. both men facing several charges including attempted murder. no one in the end was injured otherwise. martha: police set to hold a news conference in an hour with new developments in the murder of uva student hannah graham. jesse matthew will be charged with her murder. she disappeared in december and was found 8 weeks later. if it's true, what may have prompted the murder charge now in this case? >> reporter: we are going to find that out. authorities are expected to release that information. matthew is charged only with abduction to intent to defile hannah graham who was a freshman

and the university of virginia. her body was found in a rural area outside of charlottesville a month later. she left her friends in a concert and was later seen in a surveillance video with jesse matthew in charlottesville. a massive manhunt was undertaken. he was arrested on a beach in galveston, texas. martha: dna evidence linked him to another murder? >> reporter: that's right. the dna matched that found on the bought body of morgan harrington another virginia girl whose body turned up in a hayfield. matthew had been previously accused but never charged in the sexual assault of two other women in 2002 and 2003. those charges were dropped after the two women declined to press

charges. because the charges were dropped police were never legally allowed to take a dma sample from matthew. had such a sample:been taken he would have likely been in jail and hannah graham would likely be alive today. martha: doug, thank you very much. bill: historic debate looming in congress. we are live on capitol hill for that in minutes. martha: there is a growing divide between the white house and one our closest allies. is the president picking iran over israel?

ing martha: first time since shortly after 9/11 the president of the united states is set to ask congress for new war powers today. president obama expected to seek what is called the authority to

use military force or aumf, bense isis. that sets up the first war vote that congress has made in 13 years. welcome, everybody brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. at that formal request expected to come early as today and coalition forces pound isis targets in syria and iraq. when the request arrives will the president face a tough sell? lawmakers debate details. mike emanuel is there to listen for us. live on the hill. what are the details? good morning there? >> reporter: while we wait to see the formal request from the obama administration some top democrats expressed their concerns. house democratic leader nancy pelosi told reporters late last week there are concerns about the length of time for military authorization. geography, what countries would it allow u.s. forces to conduct military operations and the question of boots on the ground and enphrases like enduring

combat. pelosi was hearing from her consultations three years may be a likely timetable but we are hearing from sources that consultation between the administration and members here on the hill are still ongoing bill. bill: what are republicans saying ahead of this request, mike? >> reporter: house speaker john boehner said he didn't r doesn't want to tie the president's hand. sounds like it will be flexible for president obama to do what he needs to do. top republicans are making case for president to bring alongfellow democrats and some worry the president is down playing the threat. >> look where isis is spreading. latest libya. now becoming an outpost for isis. it has gone across the entire middle east. >> africa? >> according to the head of british intelligence mi5 who gave a speech a couple weeks ago, said they are a direct threat to the united states of america and that is an

exaggeration? >> reporter: many folks we talk to on capitol hill are expecting the formal request sometime tomorrow but it is really up to the commander-in-chief and his team when they're ready to roll it out. bill: thank you. mike emanuel leading our coverage on capitol hill. martha: very sad news to report here. the family of american hostage kayla mueller is confirming their death. they have received confirmation that she has lost her life. unbelievably sad story this is. steve hayes joins us senior writer for "the weekly standard" and a fox news contributor. steve, this is confirmation of something we heard a couple days ago that she was killed in a jordanian airstrike. we still don't know if that is how this happened though, correct? >> that's right. i think there is a lot of skepticism among u.s. intelligence officials and others that is in fact what happened. that is the way isis is trying to frame the death of this kayla

mueller, suggesting it was the result of jordanian overzealousness in response to the killing of the burning death of the jordanian pilot but we don't know. that we don't have confirmation of that. i think there are reasons to be very skeptical of that. martha: i want to read a little bit of the statement that kayla's parent have just released. obviously they are completely distraught and heartbroken. they say, we are so proud of the person kayla was and the work that she did while she was here with us. she lived with purpose. we will work every day to honor her legacy. our hearts are breaking for our only daughter but we will continue in our peace, dignity and love for her. i also just want to read something else that kayla wrote to her father back in 2011. she said i find god in the suffering eyes reflected in mine. if this is how you are revealed to me, this is how i will forever seek you and she was extremely committed to helping the refugees, first in turkey that flooded across the border from syria.

then in syria. somewhere along the line working with "doctors without borders," she was abducted apparently leaving a hospital, steve. is that the story that you understand? >> yeah. leaving a hospital in aleppo. look by all accounts kayla mueller was somebody who followed through on the things that she believed. she was an activist but actually followed through on the activist. wasn't a paper activist. whether her work with aids or work on darfur. whether her work with refugees from syria she certainly seemed to believe she was doing god's work and was committed to doing it. it is a sad, obviously very sad story. not just for her parents but just for the country. it reminds us the perils of war non-war happening in syria right now. martha: i mean you think packings to steven sat laugh, jim foley to other americans that have been killed in this fight. efforts that were undertaken we

learned later to rescue them, to get them away from the hands of these vicious islamist extremists who have been killing people. we've seen the scenes across all of these videos in some horrific ways. it raise as question about how we're doing in fighting this battle steve? >> yeah. i mean it is really one of the saddest stories of the past decade. if you look back at the hope that the administration had in dealing with bashar al-assad's regime, whether hillary clinton talking about assad as a reformer whether it was sending a u.s. ambassador back to damascus in january of 2011. there was clear that the administration thought that they could deal with bashar al-assad in a way that was different than the bush administration certainly. we had historically done over at least the past several years. in the meantime now we've seen the deaths of some 200,000 people on the ground in syria on both sides. we've seen continued wanton

slaughter by the assad regime using what many believe to be burial bombs and growth of isis in the region. it is certainly a mess over there now. martha: in terms of our own efforts we heard the story about the thwarted effort to find the journalist steven satloff and jim foley. that obviously did not work and there is no doubt, is there, there has been concerted effort i would imagine among our special forces to find out where these people are? because nobody would have wanted anything other than for her to be rescued, for them to be rescued and brought out of these places. it really speaks how difficult those missions are in this case it seems. >> yeah, no question and i would hope we have our special forces and intelligence operatives working on the ground not only to identify location of any captives but as you say to attempt to free any american hostages. you know certainly the

administration has come under criticism from james foley's mother among others for not having done enough. it is hard to tell whether that is just sort of the natural reaction of a mother who is distraught at having lost her son or how much of that is an administration that isn't doing as much as it possibly could. martha: we don't have a lot of tell against on the ground. that is likely a contributor to that situation. so sad. kayla mueller her parents, family confirming she is is indeed dead after working as an aid worker in turkey and syria. thanks steve, thank you very much. >> thanks martha. bill: catherine herridge is our chief intelligence correspondent live streaming out of the gitmo on the trial down there, bit of a delay yesterday. take us through the back channels catherine to try to locate her and even possibly send in a team to possibly get her out. do you have more on this now? >> reporter: thank you bill. i want to begin first with the

execution of james foley because it was after that execution last fall that fox news was able to confirm very specific details about the kidnapping of kayla mueller. we were able to understand that she was kidnapped along with her syrian boyfriend, both aid workers. that he was held temporarily released. and then went back to try to convince isis to release her but was unsuccessful. we were also able to confirm but were asked to withhold very specific details for the sake of her safety and also for national security interests and we'll continue to do that here in the discussion but we understood that cale law was held at three separate locations in syria, most notably one back in may where we understood that all of the eight western hostages were being held together and if it is any comfort to the family, she was able to communicate to one of the others who stages a

european eventually released after a ransom, then at that point they had not been the women had not been abused by their captors. what is also significant is that there was very specific information as we've reported here at fox news, back in the middle of may, prior to this rescue attempt about the location of the hostages. when i say specific specific as to a building and location in raqqa, syria. but the administration waited the better part of seven weeks to act on that information. the white house says there was no unnecessary delay in launching that rescue effort but those with first-hand knowledge of the intelligence at the time really see quite differently bill. bill: the family's letter, they say she first traveled to turkey in december 2012 providing humanitarian aid to syrian refugees. based on the record it appears she disappeared in the fall of 2013 and had been held about 16 or 11 months in the eastern part

of the country based on your reporting of some of the information we have. the family also says this, catherine. we remain heartbroken -- >> reporter: if i could just follow up. go ahead. bill: the family state, we remain heartbroken for the families of the other captives who did not make it home safely and who remain in our thoughts and prayers. there are still americans in syria. do we have a full accounting of who they are now? >> reporter: there is not a full accounting of the remaining western hostages. the conventional wisdom, when you talk to intelligence officials is about a handful that remain and then over 100 who are syrian nationallals. back up for one moment bill very little has been said about these back channel communications between isis and the american families. and, with the death of cale law

mueller, i think we can tell you a little bit more about some of the communications we were aware of at fox news. isis set up a twitter account specifically to get into contact with the family of peter kassig. former military, also an american aid worker, who was executed by isis. and as part of the exchange with the kassig family they sent a message which was clearly meant to show their credibility and they said give our regards to kala mueller's parents. that was the first time that we had, their name and you could see in the twitter traffic, i mean the taunting of these families whose children are being, are being held. so again, based on our reporting, she was held in three separate locations in syria along with the other western hostages and as late as may last year, about seven weeks before the rescue attempt was launched

all eight western hostages were together, in the same location. and at that time, she was able to communicate to at least one of the others who damages that she had not been abused by isis up until up until that point. and the argument has been made this is where there is real division with the white house as to why it took seven weeks to launch the rescue attempt based on this very specific information on the location of the remaining western hostages. the white house will say they wanted the intelligence to build up further. people who work in this area say that is a very unrealistic view of this kind of information which is very perishable a fancy way of saying it has to be acted on immediately. that did not happen in this case. we all know what the result was, bill. bill: one more clarification here too catherine. her family reached out to her captors. >> reporter: sure. bill: what do you know about that? what information can we report on that now?

>> reporter: i don't want to give you bad information. i just know there have been efforts to communicate between the two but i don't want to give you specifics. bill: she was 26 years old. raised in prescott arizona. her family always talked about her, trying to do good for society and her fellow human beings humanitarian to the end. in their statement, kayla was a compassionate humanitarian. dedicated her young life to helping those in need of freedom, justice, and peace. many of those, be it, american japanese, or otherwise, that what drew them to the conflict in syria. they went there out of a need they felt to help others. this what they found. martha: all right, we're joined now by retired four-star general jack keane chairman at institute of study of war and fox news military analyst. general, welcome. obviously very sad news today. as the family of kayla mueller

learned she indeed lost her life in this battle. what do you have to say about it sir? >> well, certainly i totally agree. it's sad and also tragic. miss mueller obviously is a person who is dedicated, she cares about people. she was going into an area where there was fraught with risk. certainly understood that. she knew the syrians and how much danger was in their everyday life and make herself a part of that to provide some relief for them. and thank god for people like that. that agency, aid goes into dangerous places and does some very great humanitarian work. make no mistake about it. the only reason miss mueller is dead is because of isis. they can deflect this all they want. the fact of the matter they captured her they held her in captivity. they intimidated and tortured her family and america in general, that was their clear

purpose. we certainly have a very sad and tragic ending. martha: i want to read briefly from the statement just been released by the white house, by the president on the death of kayla jean mueller. it is with profound sadness we've learned of the death of kayla jean mueller. on of ba of the american people, michelle and i convey the deepest condolences to her family and her brother carl and eric and her family and all those that loved kayla dearly. general, obviously begs the question of the larger context here. we've seen the president interviewed over the interview happened end of january. he talks about what he sees as the media sort of fanning the flames of concerns over the war on terror. he says it is clearly something americans need to be concerned about, he believes that concern has been exaggerated to to some extent. >> that is really the

disturbing. the barbarism has been growing and expanding. no one can disput the fact that radical islam has morphed into a global jihad that stretches from western africa to northeast africa throughout the middle east and into southern asia. and that expansion has been going on largely during the president's administration. and not to accept one that radical islam is a movement driven by a geopolitical and religious ideology is a major failing. and two then to diminish it that just runs against the very harsh facts that are out there and certainly these tragedies that we see under fold -- unfold in africa and middle east, that isis is doing, they all share a common connective tissue and that is an ideology and we need to press against it and it's obvious this president is not going to do that. that's the truth also, martha. he is not going to face up to

that. he is not going to develop a comprehensive strategy to defeat it. he compared it in that interview as you know, in a sense of like a mayor or a police commissioner fighting crime in the city. that somehow these are random things that just a natural part of life. that is manifestly disturbing. it is, and it is reckless because it is dangerous to the american people. >> general, let me ask you about what catherine herridge was just referring to, and that is the evidence that the hostages western hostages eight of them were being held together in one place and that her reporting tells us that they were moved to three different locations and that there was an awareness on part of the administration as to the location that they were being held in. we know that no one got to them in time to save james foley or steven satloff and now we know the same is true of kayla mueller. and there is no doubt that the military and people who are

trained to do these kinds of rescues would have wanted to do whatever they could to save them. your thoughts on how all that transpired? >> well a couple of things. number one we have to give the administration credit for launching the operations they did do to try to rescue our people. these are very complicated operations. you have to try to execute something when you know you're going to be detected at some point. do you have time from the point of detection, to the where you get into the room where the place where the hostages are being held, to save that person's life? and we know tragically, in one of those instances that did not happen because they were detected about 100-meters outside of the facility. so that all has to be weighed in terms of doing the operation. and obviously the skill and daring of people involved who do this kind of work are nothing short of remarkable. the only thing that i have similar to what catherine has said is that the

administration has a tendency to sit on the information and i've heard that from our special operations folks. they have a tendency to sit on intelligence and wait for something that is going to confirm it. wait for something that will be better in terms of the intelligence and most of the time that's not going to happen. you're better off moving and doing something about it. so i think there could be something there but i don't know that for a fact. martha: general, thank you very much. bill: there will be a lot more information on this very soon including this. national security council apparently put out a statement to too through their spokesperson. over the weekend the family received a private message from kayla's isil captors containing additional information. once this information was authenticated by the intelligence community they concluded kayla was deceased. she wrote a letter in early november dated 11/2/2014. everyone if you're receiving this letter i'm still detained

but my cellmates have been released. dated 11/2/2014. the letter goes on for some time. she concludes, i have a lot of fight left in me. i will not break down or give in no matter how long it takes. i wrote a song some months ago the part of me pains the most, gets me out of bed. without your hope there would be nothing left. end quote. kayla mueller, age 26 american dead in syria. (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble... ...and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. not honda. not ford or any other brand. subaru eyesight.

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bill: back to the this heart-stopping news ought of syria. kayla mueller, american age 26, many held out so much hope for

has been confirmed by her family in arizona she is indeed dead. how, based on what circumstances we do not know. bear in mind last week when the jordanian air force started going after isis targets in eastern syria and across the border in western iraq, isis came out and simply said that the building you bombed was holding this american. none of that was verified. none of that was proved. but something happened over the weekend where isis reached out to her family and according to the national security council that family received a private message from the captors containing more information. and once that information was authenticated by the intelligence community, here in the united states, they concluded that kayla was indeed deceased. more information than that is beyond us at the moment as we look for more. martha: we had statements from the white house today from the president, it is with profound sadness we have learned of the death of kayla jean mueller. on behalf of the american people michelle and i convey our deepest condolences to kayla's

family, her parents marcia and carl and her brother those who loved kayla deeply. we learned from catherine herridge who has gone back over the story and holding of others who stages steven satloff and james foley, the journalists who were among the first we saw beheaded brutally by isis and then, we learned that kayla mueller was also held with them. that there were eight westerners who were held in three locations together. that they were moved among these three locations and that according to the reporting those were clearly identified in terms of the building and the location. some seven weeks past the, before the attempt was made to rescue them from there. as we heard from general jack keane. those who were valiantly going into rescue these individuals were spotted 100 meters out and that mission was aborted. it is a tragic, tragic outcome.

bill: you think about the amount of risk thee took martha. she was working for a spanish outfit for doctors "doctors without borders." she went into aleppo to help some people. normally they would he can track them before night fall. at that particular day for whatever reason they were late and spent the night there. they went to the bus station. and inroute to the bus station she was picked up off the streets of aleppo. martha: she was taken with her boyfriend working with this organization. he was syrian is syrian. there were attempts by the boyfriend to speak to some representatives of isis to try to free her. they were to no avail. and she continued to be held. as she wrote to her family, she said not to worry. she was still strong. she wrote, still had a lot of fight left in her. she also conveyed through a european hostage who was released after a ransom was paid, she gave him the message

he brought out of that captivity, that she and the other female hostages had not within abused by their captors which no doubt was of great relief to her family but the very sad news that they have received today is that she lost her life ultimately in that captivity. how, we don't know. as of right now. but we will have lots more coverage on this very tragic story after this.

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message from the white house for quite some time. the josh earnest, the press secretary saying as much on several occasions. we heard the president echo those sentiments. i'm speaking for all the american people when i say our thoughts, our prayers, our condolences to the mueller family, informed of the loss of her daughter. we're not certain when she may have passed away. the white house releasing a lengthy statement, and i think it is important to point out martha, the statement today did more than just sort of talk about in broad swaths the loss of another american life in this senseless wear on terror this tragic loss but it also talked about what her ideals were, her dreams were her hopes were. even going so far as to quote her talking about the freedoms we enjoy here in america, that so many other people around the globe simply don't have the opportunity to enjoy. she was a big-hearted person and huge loss for the american people and that statement released today by the white house certainly said as much martha. martha: yeah. just to read a little bit more of it kevin it says, isil is a

hateful abhorrent terrorist group, whose actions stand in stark contrast to the spirit of people like kayla. we take comfort the future belong not to those who destroy but irrepressible source of human booedness kayla mueller will represent. >> reporter: perfectly said, martha. the way it was unusual if you pardon me from saying. i've seen many statements over many years covering the white house but this was different. it was almost different, in a way it described a young woman to embodied very passion and freedom we enjoy here in the united states of america a senseless and tragic loss. again our thoughts and prayers from the family. if we get more from the white house we will share that with you. we also heard from the national security council talking about how the family find out at least in so much as they began to put together a timeline for the acknowledgement of her passing here today. again a tragic loss.

martha: thank you very much, kevin. kevin corke at the white house. bill: with me now, our colleague from the fox business network lou dobbs. lou, good morning to you. we brought you on to talk about a different topic but now with breaking news this is the worst nightmare come true for this family. >> it truly is, and by every account kayla mueller was an extraordinary young lady but each lives that have been lost in this senseless war that is being waged by radical islamists across the middle east indeed, the attempts to wage it across western civilization reminder of us all that this is not as the president would suggest a war that is fading and irrelevant or won for that matter as he implied in his most recent statements. the fact is, that this is a growing, growing organization as he put it. the islamic state. and, we have to take seriously

our responsibilities to, as he described the goals of the obama administration, to degrade and destroy it. this is, this is our haifa lieutenant tin words on -- high-fallutin words from the white house. they have to go out and kill these people and destroy the islamic state and sooner we get at it, safer, wonderful young people, people all over the world will be from the heinous barbaric islamic state and other radical islamic terrorists. bill: kevin just referred to it in this letter from the president. it is quite long too. you know they knew about this 24, 48 hours, maybe 72 hours ago but says in part kayla represents what is best about america and represented her deep pride in what americans long for around people around the world.

>> without question. i think those who strife for such freedom depend on american leadership. we are clicheed it is apt and it is true, the beacon of constitutional constitutional governance a constitutional republic truly a beacon to for all the world who seeks individual freedom and liberty and the right to live out their lives in peace and work to be all they can be. we are right now, at a i think inflection point in global history, world history. in which we're going to died the course of so many millions of lives, billions of lives. in how we conduct ourselves and whether or not this nation and the european union in particular, will find the capability and the will to lead to set a standard and also defend that standard. bill: thank you, lou. lou dobbs with us here in the studio. this letter mentions in prescott arizona, she volunteer

at a women's shelter and worked at an hiv/aids clinic and worked with humanitarian organizations in india, palestinian tar tories and to help others and eventually the path took her to turkey and that path led her south across the border into syria. lou, thanks again. martha. martha: joining me by phone, walid phares fox news middle east and terrorism analyst. thanks for being with us today. once again we're dealing with the death of an american at the hands of isis and this one is particularly potent, young there girl there to help people. >> well it is a very sad episode, another episode and of course first thing come to my mind that isis is, islamic state, jihadi organization in control of almost two countries now and fighting us fighting many civil societies in the region has no consideration for international law. this is an organization unlike any other that does not

recognize a set of human rights by capturing, before issue of killing, capturing human rights activists or social rights activists. beyond that, beyond this consideration, the question is now why are these human rights activists and ngo activists going to dangerous zones? what is the responsibility of u.s. government telling them where to go and not to go? there is another issue. should there be a ban for all u.s. citizens, regardless of their activities to go closer or at the edge of where these militias control? as i repeat we've seen this over months and months. one after the other hostages killed, all captured in syria when they went for humanitarian considerations. so there need to be a review of u.s. policy regarding the travel of u.s. citizens anywhere close to isis areas. martha: yeah. i absolutely hear what you're saying. and it is very clear in this letter it is a heartbreaking

letter and i believe it is the last letter that they have from her. it was written in november of 2014 but it is so clear to me that this young woman felt terrible that she had put her family in a position where they had to be so concerned about her. she says i do not want negotiations for my release to be your duty. if there is any other option taken, even if it takes more time, this should have never been your burden. she is clearly such a selfless person walid, who dedicated herself. and clearly put herself in dangerous situations but she clearly felt it was her mission. >> you know she is a humanitarian. a perfect humanitarian, who went to regions that are in danger not just in syria. before that palestinian territories, in israel and now she moves to turkey in 2012 from there into syria. she is a humanitarian who

trusted the fact that everybody involved in conflict should respect this choice and allow her. if she was not desired in the areas controlled by isis, the minimum, they could have done was to ask her to leave. but to capture her or somebody else may have captured her transferred her to isis this is a very serious threat against our national security. we don't know how many other u.s. citizens have been captured. she was there in 2012. so this is a very serious warning that the u.s. government should heed and put a strategy to make sure that no one is endangered. everybody is informed where to go, where not to go close to isis-controlled areas. martha: walid, thank you very much. good to have you with us today. walid phares. bill: we're in touch with our affiliate in phoenix, arizona. certainly they have been very close to the story, just northwest of mean -- phoenix in her hometown of prescott, arizona.

when we get more information from the american southwest including more reaction from friends and family that knew her and grew up with her. back in a moment. kayla mueller, dead in syria, age 26.

bill: as we wait more information out of arizona washington, d.c. and syria, david webb, host of the david webb radio show, siriusxm patriot and columnist on "the hill." leslie marshall, syndicated talk show host. both our guests. kayla mueller 26. she is dead in syria david, it rots your heart. >> it does, bill. walid phares made a very important point. i will say it even more bluntly of the americans and people around the world need to pay attention what is going on in radical muslim controlled areas no aid worker especially a woman should go to these countries. when you're dead, you're not going to be able to help the

people that you're actually help. credit to her for her courage but also reality has to be dealt with that is something we should put out as a warning to the world. bill: when she went to syria isis was not in the form that it is today. and i think what that shows, david, and leslie i will let you answer this, how quickly this group has become so murderous, so fast. >> very very true. i agree with david to a degree, and not just on the gender of an aid worker. this is a young girl who is given her life to the literally, given her life to help others but i'm not sure that all of the aid workers are aware of the escalation of violence from isis around the countries that they're in. they're kind of removed from that in a sense with the job that they're doing to help others in countries like syria especially in syria and iraq. when we look at the just, how

fast isis grows i feel we have the responsibility as a nation to inform these people and not put a ban necessarily, not, leave it up to them as be their choice but they are, they have to be educated, they have to be informed where they can and can't go or countries they should or shouldn't go. -- from the state department as travelers. bill: i understand but the big point here is to recognize how quickly this group is organized and how deadly they have become. she went to turkey in 2012. it is only february of 2015 and now she is dead. she has been in captivity for 17 months. >> and bill -- bill: within a year-and-a-half david, this group has managed to steal the headlines around the world and become the organized killers that we see today. >> yeah and bill, they are growing, despite what we're being told by this government this administration. they have gained 1/3 more territory in syria. they're attacking in kirkuk.

they have taken mosul which will not be retaken without door-to-door fighting. by the way in syria, this was just not a new problem. especially agree. it is not just gender, but especially for women. i can go on my phone and pull up an app from the state department and cia and look on warnings to going to certain countries. it is available information. al qaeda and others have been active in syria for quite some time even before isis. certainly the assad regime no friend of freedom. people need to educate themselves on what they want to do. what they can achieve and you shouldn't surrender your life unfortunately to radicals but if you go there, that is where you put yourself in that position. bill: we're all being educated on how terrible this group is and how bar i can they are. >> tragically, my friend. >> i agree with david. like i said the state department does are have these things these organizations that people work with are volunteer to work

with, need to step it up and informing them, but it is a risk that many of them know. nobody obviously is blaming any of these victims. speaking to the growth bill this is why we have to look at as a nation and a world coalition, if you will against isis, these terrorists, what we need to do. you know they make demands and they know their demands are not doing to be met. there are many many terrorism authorities who say even if demands were met they would still kill these hostages. this is very different breed of enemy we're dealing with than we have seen historically. bill: clearly they have no intention of stopping. leslie marshall, david webb, thank you for your time as well. >> tragic. bill: indeed. martha. martha: our coverage continues on the death of kayla mueller and the larger implications about the war on terror. we will be back right after this. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns

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martha: sissies claims yet another american kayla mueller has been confirmed dead. her parents released this letter that kayla sent back in november of 2014. is is a heart-wrenching letter and part of it reads, i know you would want me to remain strong. that is exactly what i am doing. do not fear for me. continue to pray as will i. by god's will we will be together soon, she wrote in november of 2014. i'm joined by kt mcfarland, former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the reagan administration. fox news security analyst. kt, this is obviously a heart-breaking heart-breaking story.

but it has larger ramifications in terms where this is all heading. >> more and more incidents like this. it is heading there is target on every american's back whether in the middle east or north africa or in the gulf. what the united states needs to do, which we are not doing is to understand radical islam is the existential threat of our time. the same way naziism was, in world war ii, the same way communism was during the cold war. martha: we know in the strategy statement the other day susan rice said exactly the opposite. >> that is why they're wrong and that is why these are going to continue, unless we have a multipronged plan that brings all aspects of american leadership and power to bear. number one the united states, stand up and lead. none of the leading from behind. we're now leading from the front. have an economic component to this. isis gets money from someplace. is it from gulf arab countries? from wealthy families in the region? cut the family off and have consequences for anybody that allows that to happen. have idealogical component.

the president of egypt stand up in the equivalent of egypt in the muslim world's vatican said to leaders of their religion. you buys have to fix this. you have tolerated violent radical islam. have to change. endorse him to do that. when people say like the president, well we don't want boots on the ground or don't want another middle east war. no, but you know what we want? if we put boots on the ground it will be to rescue americans held hostage. by the way, isis any radical islamic group, you want ran some, you want a prisoner swap. we're turning tables on you. we will put a bounty on the head of jihad johnny or anyone else to takes americans hostages. reassert this that otherwise we'll do martha, play catch-up. every week we'll have another incident. every month we'll see women, children, taken hostage, crucified. how much of this do we stand before we finally get off of our knees and respond? martha: you think about the comment by the leader of egypt and how powerful it would be if

president obama would stand side by side with the leader of egypt, say, we together call on all of you, moderate islam, because no one is suffering more than muslims in their home country, in larger numbers. you know it also strikes me at the bottom of the white house statement today which was very sympathetic and very laudatory to kayla at the bottom of it though, it says on this day we take comfort in the fact that the future belongs not to those who destroy but rather to the irrepressible force of human goodness kayla forever shall represent. that leaves an open question does it not? >> empty words unless you're willing to reinforce them. the administration says we'll have diplomacy to stop this. guess what? negotiating without leverage that is not negotiating. that is begging. well, long arc of history will prove us right. there are a lot of people who will die while you're waiting for long arc of history to love you right. if you are wrong then we're in bigger trouble than we are

today. martha: here is what the president said in interview with fax in december. >> the trajectory of the this planet overall is one towards less violence, more tolerance less strife, less poverty. i said this before. i think some folks in washington, ah, he is ignoring chaos and all the table stuff that is happening. of course i'm not ignoring it. i'm dealing with it every day. >> let me tell but the long arc of history and how we're getting to be better more civilized world and global community will take over. the 21st century was the most lethal, violent century in american history f they think somehow is is all going to disappear, that numerous r human mate ture is going to change, think again. how are we going to feel if there are nuclear weapons introduced to the middle east and in the hands of these people who are happily, cheerfully, burning alive soldiers who are

happily, cheerfully, killing children and women? that is really bad world. martha: the threats to the world are where there is tolerance spreading and kindness overtaking violence because, very sadly we don't seem to be seeing it anywhere. >> no. martha: kt, thank you very much. bill: prayers for the family that have been waiting with so much anticipation, holding out so much hope and prayer when they were notified over the weekend indeed their daughter was dead. in a letter just out, made public one hour ago, quote, the family says, we are so proud of the person kayla was and work she did while she was here with us. she lived with purpose. we will work every day to honor her legacy. back in a moment.

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can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. fiber one streusel. >> look at some of the local press in arizona. even this morning the parents obviously still holding out for hope for the fate of their daughter but the local reporting says yes they were in a fragile

state as of this weekend and you get the sense just by reading it, they knew something and likely more than we did until now. >> i feel sorry for them and our hearts go to all of them. thank you for being with us. "happening now" starts right now. jon: and a fox news alert to begin. new england digging out of a monster snowstorm, five feet falling in less than two weeks. good morning to you. i'm jon scott. >> and i'm lee lee. more on the breaking news lut the day today but we have to touch about what's happening in boston. hard hit for sure by this storm. schools and businesses are closed, public transportation is suspended. hospitals forced to set up sleeping areas for workers. officials are struggling with how to remove the latest amount of snow, two feet since sunday. >> no city administration has dealt with this much snow in a very short period of time in the month of february. i know there are