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will tonight, 8:00 p.m. i want to spell it out line by line. the whole spreadsheet. hello, everyone. itis 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." more than six months after launching a bombing campaign to degrade and destroy isis, the president has asked congress for authorization to extend the use of military force for three more years. here's president obama addressing the nation a short while ago on his long-term strategy. >> this resolution reflects our core objective to destroy isil. a systemic and sustained campaign of air strikes against isil in iraq and syria, support and training for local forces on the ground including the moderate syrian opposition,
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preventing isil attacks in the region and beyond including by foreign terrorist fighter who is try to threaten our countries. >> he went on to describe what the strategy does not entail. >> the resolution we submitted today does not call for the deployment of u.s. ground combat forces to iraq or syria. it is not the authorization of another ground war like afghanistan or iraq. >> so the president is convinced we should not get dragged into another ground war but these generals, defense secretaries and intel officials argue a ground war is the only way we're going to win. >> they're not going to be able to be successful against isis strictly from the air. there will be boots on the ground. >> doing this through airpower alone without corresponding ground forces is a next to impossible task. >> unless the coalition is willing to put more ground troops into iraq and possibly into syria there is very little
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dewe -- >> how many would it take? >> i think it would take 100,000. >> i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our troops. >> so day nashgs he didn't rule out ground troops at all. he just said we won't go with an enduring offensive ground operation. >> it's -- it's mealey mouthed to me. go back a couple years. in 2013 president obama gave a speech at the national defense university in which he said we are ending the conflicts in iraq and afghanistan and i am calling for the withdrawal and repeal of the authorization to use military force that was established in 2001. now he's actually going to continue to use the authorization to use military force in 2001 and he's adding another one. he is pushing what he thinks he can get through the congress, mostly because democrats are going to give him a hard time not republicans, and it's much less than what the generals are
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saying that need. you saw a compilation of them there. it also continues the ridiculous use of time lines in military actions. it did take away the geographic restrictions, which i think is important because isis doesn't think it's just staying in this contained little area. they are spreading around. the bottom line is it's not that big a deal. i think this is going to be a little bit of a smorgasbord of policy make ong capitol hill he get will get an authorization to use military force and we'll continue to have a military and intelligence service that does what it needs to do within those parameters. when he says he's asking for a three-year thing, i think that does the next president of the united states, whoever it is, a disservice. >> yes. >> because that means the first thing that that president is going to have to do instead of being able to do whatever is necessary, they're going to have to spend a lot of capital to try to get a new authorization to use military force because lit's not kid ourselves, we're going to need it. >> in contract law, you put a term on it, i get that. he wants a three-year.
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he went further. this is meant to imply that the u.s. will end its anti-isis operation within three years whether we win or not. >> this is what he does. >> kimberly you hear president obama saying will win at the podium, but we're not so sure. >> because degrading is not winning. it isn't. and that's the problem. he's not prepared to do whatever it takes and he's telling them that. if i were sitting there listening and i'm the leadership of isis i'm, like, okay, much ado about nothing, this guy. he didn't accomplish anything with this because we already had the authority to be able to do what we need to do right now. all he did was hamstring whoever's going to be his successor with unnecessary verbiage and paperwork right, because he doesn't want any enduring ground force offensive. but that's what you need in order to win. whose side are you playing for? >> are we winning? if you listen to president obama, we are winning, pushing them back, morale is broken, yet 20,000 foreign fighters are joining the fight and as many as
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150 americans. 3,400 westerners. >> i actually don't think he was that bad today. i mean, i thought the hehe actually had more emotion than usual. however, there is no prenup in war. i don't understand, you know, announcing a limited engagement like it's some kind of small foreign independent film playing at the marquee down the street. he's essentially announcing the exit strategy before he even entered, say nothing ground war is like telling your kids they'll never be grounded. there has to be consequences. it goes back to i think what i would call the root cause of all of this issue -- these issues for him is george bush. when he says he doesn't want to be dragged back into these wars, he's basically still kind of thinking about bush. it's his obsession with bush that prevents him from crushing isis. it's like you had a really bad first marriage and it's preventing you from committing again, and i think that's -- >> not me. not me. >> but the thing is i wish he
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had as much passion for security as he did for fund-raising. maybe he should look at terrorists as wallets. >> so greg makes a very good point, bob, that part of the reason we have an isis is because president obama announced the troop drawdowns in advance of drawing down the troops, not as things were getting better. at this date we're going to be down to 50000, that the date down to 15,000 at this date we're going to be out. if you're a terrorist organization, why not just wait the dates out? >> you're assuming that a, there was no isis before that at least maybe knotty bithat name, but they've been radical islamists -- >> are you saying -- >> we will not -- we'll never completely defeat them. there's always going to be some fringe edge of the muslim -- >> you mean offshoot? >> we're not going to be able to knock them all down. the other thing is i think what he did for the next president was a good thing. instead of saying i'm going to handle it when i leave office, that means you have to go through the whole process -- now is the new president -- >> why not open ended?
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why say this is going to end in three years? why? >> because -- >> you think the next president of the united states wants to spend any of their time having to worry about passing a new authorization to use military force in their first year? whoever it is, they're not going to want to have to do that. >> they already have to fix all of his other mistakes like obamacare. busy. >> like teddy cruz, he'll want to increase the number of troops. >> not necessarily. depends on the situation on the ground. >> what's your problem with -- it's irrelevant. they can pass whatever they want po pass. >> yet to justify an argument why he did it. >> another piece of news that came out earlier today which i kind of find it shocking. iran, tehran, has said they will train iraqi forces. now, does anyone here -- let me start with you, bob, you're familiar with iran. does this pose a problem when a u.s. military people are going to be arm in arm with iraqi -- with iranians that train iraqis? this doesn't sound like a problem to you?
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>> sounds like a very big problem to you. i also don't quite understand, we're supposed to be training these guys for a very long time and haven't done a very good job, obviously. if the iranians come, in i think it's demeaning to us, plus the fact the potential of having iranians running around with guns all over iraq. >> they already are. >> yeah, but not in an organized fashion. >> i think we need -- there's -- there's a desire in some places in washington mostly at the white house and some people that support them that have this notion that iran really is actually on its heels, that rouhani is a moderate, that they don't really want to get a nuclear weapon and just want a deal because the sanctions have been so hard. then you talk to people that are experts that look at this and say, actually iran is flexing muscle in every part of the middle east, including bahrain, yemen, one of the points about the whole piece about the jordanian pilot being burned alive was they wanted to draw jordan into a conflict so they could actually be the
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powerbroker of the middle east. and we are continuing to shelter this idea that we could have talks with iran and then everything is going to be okay. i think what's really foolhardy is -- >> and we are hearing leaks that there are a lot more dealings going on with iran than we're being told, a lot of backdoor dealings. >> i hate to say it but you sort of wish for saddam hussein to be around to keep the check. >> and gas more zpurds. >> there are those who say keep your dictators in place because they keep things calmer in syria, maybe other parts of the middle east. can i do this? >> yeah, sure. >> over the past few days the obama administration has been clear that with respect to isis al qaeda they're both supposedly on the run. listen. >> are we actually winning our goal of diminishing and eventually destroying isis? >> well, i believe we are on the road to, yes. i absolutely do. and i think the evidence is not in my saying it but in the facts of what is happening. >> we're destroying their
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fighting positions. we're taking out their commanders, their fighter and their leaders. we've seen reports of sinking morale among isil fighters as they realize the futility of their cause. >> what do we do? we're hearing from the administration saying we're win baugh lot of reports, the additional foreign fighters coming over, maybe we're not winning. >> this is the importance of espionage espionage, infiltration, spying. they're done in secret to find out the secrets, what they're doing, and that must be embraced. we went through the last couple years jekting it through the antics of snowden and manning and assange, but we need to know what sooefl up to. america has been lucky. we've benefited from oceans and distance. but today seeing president obama up there refutes any remaining shred that america can get up and leave the table to go watch espn in their underwear. >> never. >> whenever we leave, evil breeds. this is a guy that didn't want to go to war and now he's back there. he is the poster child for
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american intervention. >> but that's what happens when you get a rapid-fire education from community organizer to commander in chief. and he should recall he was so quick to krit cit size his predecessors, and now look where he stands. if he had acted more quickly, we wouldn't be in the position we're in. >> what do we do with the 150 or so americans with american passports now fighting for isis? this is one of the issues you brought up a while ago. i think first and foremost you have to figure out how to track them if they want to return to the united states. they have a passport so, the most important thing is to be able to track them and if there's some reason to apprehend them, i think maybe -- i don't know all the legal requirements, but if there's a reason to hold them and interrogate, i think that would be responsible thing to do. >> i said yesterday, you have to create the terror magnets. when this police departments send out you want a free camper and all the people show up and you arrest them you create magnets for these people whether you insult them through
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a magazine or set up a recruiting thing, set them up they come and then you kill them. >> k.g.? >> hi. the lord giveth the lord taketh away. handle over the passport. >> and kill them. isn't that treasonous? the very definition? >> i have no problem with, you know, killing people who commit treason against the united states. so, you know, you know where i stand. >> automatically break the law by going over and engaging with the enemy. you bring them in and you arrest them and you charge them. >> it's going to take an act of terrorism here in the united states by one of these guys and then we're going to act on it. >> but you can't take them up when they come back over. >> we should be able to. >> the hope is you catch them. >> before they do something, but the bottom line is we're not going to be able to catch all of them because it's too loose. we're too busy apologizing and worrying about people's, you know feelings. >> we got to leave that. coming up, a six-month
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suspension for a 12-year-long-lie. nbc delivers its punishment to brian williams. was it harsh enough? can williams really trourn the anchor december this can summer? how did nbc address that decision on air today? seriously? where do you think you're going? to work, with you. it's taco tuesday. you're not coming. i took mucinex to help get rid of my mucusy congestion. oh, right then i'll swing by in like 4 hours. forget the tacos! one pill lasts 12 hours. i'm good all day. wait! your loss. i was going to wear a sombrero. only mucinex has a bi-layer tablet that starts fast, and keeps working. not 4, not 6, but 12 full hours. start the relief. ditch the misery. let's end this.
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six months without pay. that's nbc's punishment for the managing editor and anchor of its nightly newscast for telling false stories about a 2003 trip to iraq. in a statement nbc called brian williams' actions inexcusable inappropriate, and wrong but left the door open for his return saying he deserves a second chance. williams' colleagues matt lauer and savannah guthrie addressed the decision on the "today" show this morning. >> this is a very difficult story for us to report on because it is so so personal in so many ways. most importantly, brian is not only a colleague of ours here but he's a really good friend. >> we all care a lot about brian. that's what makes this so hard. we also care a lot about this place. the standards of nbc news. and that's what nbc is trying to balance here. so we can only say we wish the best for brian in this time. we hope the best for nbc as well. and we look forward to brian's return. >> what did you make of that, ben greg? >> it was like the serengeti out there.
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she just tore brian williams apart. oh, you know we're worried about him but we have these standards. basically she said he's screwed. i think nbc sensed a cascade of fibbery that was not going to stop, it was going to keep going, like an incontinent dog, got to get him outside before he ruins all the rugs. >> remember that? >> the incontinent dog. but i find it interest interesting that at lot of the defense for brian williams and bill o'reilly used this, which i think is incorrect, the mob mentality that is going after him, and somehow that's unfair but he did something wrong. it wasn't an opinion. it's like if a group of diners get food poisoning in a restaurant, their sickness isn't a mob response. it's response to the guy doing a poor job. and brian williams did a poor job. the people that are upset, it's not a mob mentality. it's a natural reaction to an incompetence that has to be corrected. >> kimberly do you think that a six-month suspension was the right call here by nbc? >> i think it's a clever decision because what i think
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they're going to do is test it out in the interim. in his absence, they'll see how the ratings go with someone who's his replacement. if it takes there's a strong argument if time passes, people forget, then, okay bring him back. but if somebody comes in knocks it out of the park and maintains or equals, you know, his ratings or even exceeds them, there will be a strong argument for them to move forward and part ways. but the people that i talk to and one of my friends said i love him watched him for year and he would continue to watch him and give him a second chance. there are people who really like him, used to seeing him there, set their clock by it. >> do you think a temporary suspension is actual lay permanent one where they just wanted to soften the blow? >> i do. and also think -- think about it. if you brought him back, everything he said would be suspect, right? i mean, they go over with it with a fine toothed comb. he didn't make a mistake. he made up news, and that is a big distinction. i think he's toast. >> take a look at the pilot who brought attention -- brought this to everyone's attention
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said that the rpg absolutely did not hit that helicopter. he had a gracious response. >> i think everybody should be held accountable for their actions. i feel that way about myself but i also appreciate the wisdom that the president of nbc showed in, well, displaying some compassion and some proportion to the punishment that was handled down to him. i hate to see somebody lose their career over making a mistake. >> i'm still confused by that word a mistake. is it a mistake or a lie? >> i mean, he -- for him to say he misremembered, that's a lie. part of the issue here is that came out -- this punishment came down pretty swiftly. i think everyone's kind of caught by surprise how fast they made a decision to do this because there was going to be an investigation. but as greg points out they probably started the investigation, found so many, they were like uh-oh we better -- we have to stop the bleeding right now. but i think it's a mistake to put a time limit on it just
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like it would be a mistake to put a time limit on beating isis. a temporary suspension we'll visit this as time goes. he's going to be eligible -- everyone's doing the six-month time limit now, doing the math on it, there are going to be probably 15 or 20 presidential candidates who are announcing within a month of that six-month period. you have to say, do you really want brian williams right now -- i mean look, i feel bad that the guy has put himself in this position, but he has. they made him so important, managing editor managing director of the news, that he was able to pick and choose which news that was going to hit the air for them. he got so big that at one point i believe brokaw and the senior executive in charge of news said stick to the facts. stick to the facts brian. you're varying too far into opinion. that's where he got himself hurt. >> you alluded to something earlier. do you think there's more left to come out? because "new york" magazine today sort soft suggested that. >> i wouldn't be surprised. i mean, everybody always wants the other person's job. actors always want to be musicians and musicians want to be painters.
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he wanted to be letterman. brian wanted to be letterman, which meant that he wanted to tell stories. he was too charming to do the news. it's not just six months. that's $5 million or what geraldo pays for waxing. i mean, that's -- he's going to feel that. it's also really hard for anyone i think at fox to screw up like this, because there's so much hatred for us in the media already that we will never be as comfortable as brian williams to actually tell these stories. >> listen, the guy -- you think about this, he got managing editor. that started with waumter, who demanded he be named managing editor. that was a big deal. everybody got it right? brokaw wasn't managing editor. >> probably. >> they built him up as the guy on the pedestal. and who's going to trust him? >> i'm managing editor of "the five." >> think of all the accurate things -- >> look how well that's going.
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i want to ask kimberly one last question about the idea of a mob mentality mentality. do you think that's just the times we're living in, the way technology works and you have lots of different people that are all communicating all at once and maybe things feel sped up because of that? >> i think it makes things more complicated for sure. when you look at the in evidence this case, i don't think mob mentality has anything to do with it. there's facts, then there's lies. that's the problem. it was like a mistake. he knew what happened and he told a different story all together. >> charles cook makes a good distinction. he said, like when people go after you as a mob as an opinion or a joke that's terrible. it's disgusting. but if they're going after you for an actual -- what you said, a factual discrepancy, that's different. >> you know the best example of the mob mentality of the last year were the women that came after the scientists was wearing the shirt that they thought was anti-feminine? >> yeah. >> that was a mob mentality. >> misremembered. >> just keep that in mind, bob. that might help you out in the
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future. >> shot right at the end. boom! the surprise announcement by jon stewart on his departure from comedy central.
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those screams of anguish you hear right now are coming from the dnc as their greatest mouthpiece ever is quitting. >> 17 years is the longest i have ever in my life held a job by 16 years and five mos. thank you. the upshot being i am a terrible employee. but in my heart i know it is time for someone else to have that opportunity. i'm going to have dinner on a school night with my family, who
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i have heard from multiple sources are lovely people. it's been an absolute privilege. it's been the honor of my professional life. >> the great jon stewart is leaving the "daily show," a big loss for this simperring left-wing media. for whenever someone made a progressive point it was jon month who repeated it days later to massed a lags. but if success is a lesson for the right, for it reveals how humor trumps hysterics. even if his jokes seem too easy, at times we made it so, his wit won converts. granted, not hard to find converts in the newsroom. leftism is their oxygen. but stewart used comedy to make a point so, he never had to express anger. that's way more persuasive than shrill bursts of shouting. and that's the problem with the right. some of us yell the same point over and over again like an english speaker yelling the same phrase to some poor guy who doesn't know the language.
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we've got political tourette's. and really, jon's mortgages were paid for by people who kept repeating dumb stuff. of course it helped he shared the assumptions of his adoring media, taking on the left only when it was safe. but the good news is the rise of a liberal media came as rejection of the boring traditional past. but now they've won so the story line has flipped. the right is now the rebel, which means it's time for a bunch of new jon stewarts to take an aim at the old. keep an eye out for them because comedy central won't. so k.g., quite a run there, 17 years, and immensely successful, very talented, very charming, and he worked at it. but he had a little help because hiss -- his political beliefs matched most of the media. >> yeah i think this is going to be the greatest episode of "wife swap" ever. we'll switch out like rosie o'donnell with jon stewart and brian williams three key players right now.
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your guess as to whether they should go. but, look i think he's very funny. o'reilly seems to like him so -- >> well, then. >> yeah. i mean -- leave it right there. i don't know why he's leaving. if it's real because everyone says family or spend more time like rosie said, is that the truth? >> that's a long time. >> but he's still very good. his ratings are still good. i'm curious, why not hit 20? >> he'll do exactly what he wants to do. he makes $25 million a year plus the other stuff on the side. he'll make multiples of that going forward whatever he decides to do. yes, he's funny he's witty he has the backing of the adoring left and all that, but one of the things that he does and i'm sure people really understand most of the stuff that he does on that show, he attacks people who are on air live when they say something, he'll take the sound bite he'll go in the back and they will say let's research this see what we can find when someone said something that was opposite of that, they said right there, and they'll
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literally have a team of people tearing apart live sound, people -- >> you know that's the pedia, right? >> but it's fish in a barrel. jon, try and do your show live one time, my man then let's see what kind of comedic genius you are. look, he sits down, he's funny with bill, i get it he's got a wit. but the stuff that people really tune in to jon stewart for -- >> you're going to make it again. >> i'm not trying to make it. i'm simply saying the difference between sitting here live and measuring every word out of your mouth and being able to spend, you know, 30 people spending four hours cutting a sound bite and writing joke ts around it it's a vastly different animal. >> i get your point. he's not live, but the fact is if he's shooting fish in the barrel, dwoent always have to provide the fish. >> that's true. >> and we provide a lot of fish. >> hell yeah. >> bob talking about this before, i think you should always learn from people that you're up against, and i think
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that, you know, learning from him is about -- how he rarely gets angry about the things he doesn't like. i always think that's important. right? >> listen, he's an engaging guy who -- eric is right. this is a guy who gets a lot of practice, right? lot of reherarsals before the show goes on. >> who cares? we've all done live shows. we've all done taped shows. 's good or he isn't. >> the best i've seen him was the smallest amount of time he had, samantha, you two guys and stewart had, talk about comedic timing, he sat there and went -- >> but he also does -- there you are, bolling there you are, craig. he also does the live shows he does with o'reilly. they do live stand-up kind of things and tour around. >> i think he's just as fine live as he is on tape. >> right. >> can i mention something people don't talk a lot about what he did and his show did have an impact around the world. a lot of people in repressive regimes, young people, they were able to see the "daily show"
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online, sometimes under disguise right, because their government didn't want to let them do that. they started copying his show in their countries. and satire works really well, in particular in iran. when they had -- at the broadcasting board of governors voice of america, they worked with these two young guys from iran who had come to america, but they were beaming back a sat fire show like the "daily show" back to tehran, and it was getting a lot of attention. and that actually is a contribution to the craft that he doesn't get enough credit for. >> one quick thing out there. >> sure. >> if you can, just go on the internet, check out jon's first show. he does a bit with stephen colbert, allegedly in washington. it's hysterical, and that's the stephen colbert who's going to take over for letterman. the guy did -- it was like a farm league manager bringing up some of the best talent. steve kor karel, john olver -- taking the hit in a month right? >> i want to throw to this tweet
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from karen timulti from "the washington post." she said, "for people under 30, jon stewart leaving the daily show is the equity of the beatles breaking up." that might be the most hilarious thing i ever heard. i saw that in the weekly standard. the average age of the the "daily show" watcher is 41. only 20 years younger than our average age. but anyway, ahead the widow of american sniper chris kyle takes the stand on day one of the trial for her husband's accused killer. details on her testimony coming up next.
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the american sniper murder trial got under way today with dramatic and motion nal style from the widow of chris kyle. she broke down talking about the last time she heard from her husband.
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she said she could tell something wasn't right when he called her from the shooting range where he was killed. chris kyle and chad littlefield were murdered in 2013 while helping another vet. that man is 27-year-old eddie ray routh. he's pleaded not guilty to capital murder. in opening statements today the defense tried to convince the jury he was, quote, in the grip of a psychosis at the time of the crimes. the prosecution argue he knew right from wrong over within a history of mental illness. so this is bringing to the forefront an issue that we discussed on the show yesterday about mental illness, what should be done, are we taking care of it in the right way because we tend to criminalize, penalize, and institutionalize in, you know, a prison system, but without people getting the help they need. now, juxtapose this situation where this was someone that there wasn't a history of mental illness. his claim as to why he should be able to not, you know, do time for this offense is that he was
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suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder. but the facts are that he was on an air force base in iraq the largest one, saw no combat time, you know, or action while he was in country, and there was no documented history prior to that except for the comments that his mother made attributing it and then reaching out to kyle to say he was having a hard time. kim? >> well, it will be an interesting case to watch for multiple reasons. people have been captivated and rightly so by the chris kyle story. and tia is a compelling figure. your heart breaks for her, and she's having to relive this in the courtroom and she does seek justice. i also think that from the mels standpoint as we continue to do -- as our country does a lot more investigation and research into posttraumatic stress what causes it and how to help heal that, perhaps this testimony will lead us to more answers there. but as i read it from layman's perspective, i would say that his defense is very weak.
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>> i would agree with you. eric, the issue is going to be did he know what he was doing, the difference between right and wrong, because you can have some mental illness issues. it's not just like a blanket get out of jail free. you have to know did you know what he did was wrong. even the statements he made directly in the aftermath because he confessed and made specific statements, showed he knew what he was doing and chose to do it anyway. >> the way i understand it some 10% or 15% of people who claim insanity as a defense are successful. so vast majority of them won't be able to -- >> they'll fail. >> they'll fail and be convicted. can i point out chris kyle was shot in the back trying to help another service person. all these people who attack chris kyle for doing this job maybe didn't watch "american sniper" to the end where he outlined what he was doing. he was trying to help returning service people who hat ptsd, help them work through their issues. attack on the guy i feel is
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unwarranted. watch some of the trial and watch the family. watch the, you know, emotion that surrounds this guy. he was a hero. >> yeah, and i met him when he was here very nice guy. it's sad people would destair of somebody like this, trying to give back, oh he wrote a book about it yeah, because a bunch of pooerm were going to write a book about his life, because he was reluctant to do the book but he decided to do it anyway to put the story out there. it certainly doesn't glamorize him. he tells the raw truth. >> reminds me of the saying going poes sal. remember all those postal people began to bring weapons into the post office saying going postal? it was funny at fist but didn't turn out to be funny because there was a string of these things. how many have we seen in the last ten years? to say there's not some underlying problem here -- >> but it can't be bandied about. it has to be real. people can say i had ptsd. it's a very serious thing to have going on and there's people that really suffer from it. you have to make sure.
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there has to be a basis in fact. you cannot just use that. >> is there violent posttraumatic and -- >> about 22 military people a day commit suicide. >> i know. that's why i -- >> 22 a day. insane. that's crazy. >> there was nothing this his records to say there was something specific to attribute it to, but that's what this trial is about. >> one thing about that he was put into a psych ward for a few days and then released. and i don't know if that was ptsd or -- >> or mental illness. >> exactly. >> separate from it, yeah. >> what always -- i always feel really bad chad littlefield was the other man that was killed. when you die with somebody who's more famous, you get forgotten. farrah fawcett died the same day that michael jackson died and i think we need to be reminded of that, that chris kyle was killed but so was chad littlefield and we don't hear the name chad littlefield enough. >> good point. i'm glad you brought that up because people haven't been
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talking about him, but, guess what, it matters to his family and his loved ones. >> exactly. >> again, another man who was trying to help a fellow veteran. my guess is that this young man had some mental illness issues that might have even preceded his time in the service. >> exactly. >> and certainly were manifesting at the time of this incident. but, again, has to meet the legal definition. >> wonder what would happen if we were all on a helicopter and -- oh, never mind. i knew i should have just hit the tease. coming up -- he warned us he's got a pen. so is president obama about to use it to veto the keystone pipeline bill now headed to his desk? we'll chat next.
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president obama said he'll veto the bill of the keystone pipeline if it made it to his desk. the senate signed off on it. i'll offer my advice to the president, but first here's speaker boehner earlier. >> even our president's own state department says this creates 42,000 new jobs but instead of listening to the people, the president is standing with a bunch of
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left-fringe extremists and anarchist anarchists. the president needs to listen to the american people and say, yes, let's build the keystone pipeline! >> oh, dana. >> he does look tan. >> so jealous. the president? >> you don't get the benefit of your advice first? >> my advice is simply this. if you think you might get overridden sign it. >> i agree. >> they are getting close. first thing you know if you are going to get into a veto run you don't want the first one to get knocked down. >> what do you say? what does his prep statement say? >> i will sign this for you. minimum wage. >> go hit the golf course. >> what does he tell the american people why he signed it? >> i have been thinking about this a lot.
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everybody has a conversion. some were in about the 17th hole it occurred to me we need another pipeline. >> it's a tough one to sell. what do you say? you say basically everybody else will say it for you. you did it for political reasons. so what. you got anything better than that? >> i would have signed it. i don't think he is going to and i don't think he cares what anybody thinks. >> let me think about that for a second. >> can you put a thought bubble above bob's head? >> here is my theory. if you are against the pipeline and prefer to have fuel travel by train then you must stop using indoor plumbing because after all that is a pipeline that carries incredibly hazardous race. just because you are intimately involved in the transportation
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of that, you don't want to give that up. it is hypocritical to have an indoor toilet and be against the keystone pipeline. you should be full of poop. >> 270 voted in favor. 29 dems voted in favor one republican voted against. all you need if president obama vetoes it it comes back to the house. you need 280. you maybe get the one republican and nine more democrats or if democrats don't want to put their name on a presidential veto they can stay out of the process and they can override the veto. >> you would be a good whip. >> he would have the board with the numbers. all you need is a little bit of pipeline. can someone talk to bob? >> i think they left to get a drink. >> "one more thing" is up next.
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time for "one more thing." >> a couple of things we were talking about "american sniper." want to let everybody know at home keep the family in their hearts and prayers. it is the birthday of chad littlefield who would have been 38 years of age. angelina jolie opening at the london school of economics, a center that is specifically going to focus on women peace and security. she said there is no stable future for a world in which crime committed against women go unpunished. she, as you recall, is also a u.n. special envoy and cofounded a campaign on preventing sexual violence with william hague in 2012. i like what she does. >> i hate these people.
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>> as we continue to build robots and refine them we have to start asking ourselves about their rights and is it possible to start abusing robots? i hate people who bully robots. as you can see in this tape this is the new google bot. he is doing his job at work minding his own business. you want the robot to act up? people are kicking robots. this is disgusting to me. he is so terrified he has gone into the woods to hide because humanity has treated him so poorly. have you seen the terminator? this is the beginning america. you mess with the robots it's over. >> that was kind of mean, don't you think? that was mean. >> anyway, so today -- tonight is the drawing for powerball
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$500 million. it turns out that there are a lot of people who don't always do so well after they win a lottery. we have michael carol who won $15 million and became broke. after that he is going back to his garbage man job. and decided he kept the ticket and took off but they found him. he is broke now. i won't do that. i bought tickets for us. >> photograph the numbers. >> it was 25 years ago on this date that nelson mandela was released from prison. four years after that he became president. he was probably of all the leaders of the african-american movement he came here and he
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impacted from south africa. he has done amazing. i love you nelson. sleep well. >> well, we talked a little bit about two big changes in media. we had brian williams in nightly news and john stewart leaving. who better than america's dog? he can probably do two jobs. >> you are done. >> no longer. >> we need one more. >> that's >> it is thursday february 1st a television news legend dead. long time 60 minute correspondent bob simon killed in a car crash. how the journalist is being
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remembered. >> the mood inside the courtroom as the widow of american sniper chris kyle takes the stand the just released chilling text messages before he was murdered. >> lucky people waking up to millionaires today three winning ticket the sold to the $564 million power ball jackpot. get the ticket. we have the winning number for you. "fox & friends first" starts right now. >> someone had a whole lot of those this morning after winning the lottery. good morning. you are watching "fox & friends first" on this thursday i am heather childers. >> thank you for starting your
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day off with us. we begin with this fox news alert. paul simon is dead killed in a horrific car crash last night. >> he was riding in the back of a lincoln town car when his driver slammed into a car. bob simon is dead. they had to cut open the roof to get out. the 44-year-old driver treated for a possible heart attack. it is not clear if it happened before or after the accident. an accomplished journalist he easterned more than 40 major awards covering over 40 major news ef voefrnts five decades. his reporting in war reporting was extensive beginning in vietnam. during the gulf war he was captured and detained for 40 days by iraqi forces. his death sending shock waes through you out -- waves through out the news industry.

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