...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. time now for sunday health call. >> welcome. >> joining us professor of medicine and author of "the inner pulse" unlocking the secret code of sickness and health. >> and professor of neurology and chief of robotic surgery. good to see you, doc. >> good to see you. >> we begin today. this is absolutely astounding, there is a move to by the top pediatrician advisory to remove their long-held stance about

reporting foods high in cholesterol, like egg, and lobster. we're told only have two eggs a week. don't have so much lobster and shrimp and cholesterol, now, it's good for us. >> you see what i'm doing. what's going on. >> since 1961 the american heart association has come out against cholesterol. i will play do rosen and say, no, don't change anything. cholesterol is still bad. cholesterol does some good things, helps stabilize cells, good for metabolizing soluble vitamins and helps get rid of fat. too much is bad for you and lines your coronary arteries and leads to heart attacks and strokes. here's why the guidelines come out. when you eat cholesterol, eat a shrimp, it may not lead to an elevat

elevated blood level. we don't know. in 25% of people it leads to elevated blood levels. in 75% it doesn't lead to that. i say since you can't tell if you have high blood pressure or risk for heart disease you have to watch your cholesterol. >> what about cholesterol on egg for example is not the same cholesterol that affects us? what is that debate? >> i think there is a lot to be learned here. the answer isn't as clear as whether to be on cholesterol or not cholesterol. we're learning a lot because the whole research on nutrition is very very complex. most have been in animal labs, eric and why we're having this discussion. for those watching this discussion, one day sugar, the other day, no sugar, cholesterol, no cholesterol. confusion. it's not because the doctors don't know what they're doing, the research is coming to the suffer surface. the history we started doing a lot of research on rabbits.

1960 the american heart association talked about the fact keep your cholesterol around 300 or less. then labels came 1994 and five years ago cholesterol wasn't good. in this research they're saying cholesterol could be a problem but we should emphasize more on saturated fats, sugar and salt. they're not saying go ahead out there and the message is not to go out and start taking eggs and all this stuff. to be careful. what do i learn as a doctor looking at this? >> what do i learn as a patient? i'm still confused. >> not every cholesterol is this same cholesterol. learn about your good cholesterol,s which the hdl, should be over 60 and your bad should be less than 100. >> shouldn't both be like 200 or wheth below? >> that's your total cholesterol. somebody out there listening my grandfather went to 90 and ate all the stake and eggs and nothing wrong with him. i'm sure that question is coming

up. between the four of us we all metabolize cholesterol a different way. you may have high cholesterol and be fine and i may have a lot of problems. mark will touch on this, genetics plays a huge role. at the end of the day with exercise and diet and cholesterol, if you have the gene, you will have issues. this is a complex issue. >> family history is so important. i went from a bunch of eggs to two egg, then four eggs then six eggs. >> a day? >> a week. you get a western omelet, three or four eggs on that. >> you're not having six eggs a week. >> that's not good? >> you're not having that. come on, eric. have you ever had six eggs in a week. it's impossible. >> how many can you have? >> you have eggs for breakfast three times a week, you have six right there. >> that's exactly what you want to say, not the number, the overall picture important. >> the key to cholesterol is in

the liver. it's the liver that decides how much cholesterol is in your blood and how much is in your heart, the liver. not what you eat. however, you make it worse by eating the cholesterol. as david was pointing out, this is correct, some people are more susceptible than others. your doctor has to figure that out. i will give you another example perfect hi correlated. high blood pressure. everybody with high blood pressure should have a low salt diet. for some eating hot dogs raises the blood pressure and others it won't touch your blood pressure. it depends on the patient. what we're learning from these guidelines in the idea that everybody's different and maybe in some people we were overestimating the effect eating cholesterol will have on you. as david and i have talked about guidelines in general. i personally have a problem sticking to guidelines. i like it on a doctor-patient basis. >> how many eggs can a person have?

they're watching now and want to know. >> everyone's metabolism is different and gene is different and brings us to the guidelines. when these guidelines come, you have to be very careful at these guidelines because they're looking at mass population. guidelines for mammogram and psa and we have questions about prostate cancer screening with these guidelines. they're good to pay attention but individual rides care paying attention to that person in front of you much more careful. >> have your eggs but talk to your doctor about it? >> because of genetics, some people in trouble because of that. and some people who have diabetes at risk for heart disease will get in trouble. >> is there a home kit to check cholesterol? >> you can and you should have a regular check-up, but the same exact thing is true not only about cholesterol, we talked about salt, american heart association 2300 institute of

medicine, not less than 1500. these guidelines change all the time. talk to your doctor. . >> i want to make a final point about this. i think what they're trying to say, saturated fats, salt and sugar are the real bad guys. stay away from the fatty meat, stay away from the butter and whole milk. we can't say everything is a bad guy. maybe cholesterol isn't as much a bad guy as saturated fats, depends on the patient. >> don't say dr. segal said go out and have all the cholesterol you want. by the way all the numbers on,hdl and dl are on twitter. >> i'm back to my lucky charms. >> no. but you can academic your own cholesterol at home with a home kit. listen to this. there is a major step by the department of agricultural approving two varieties of genetically engineered apples to be sold in the u.s.

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see three times bigger size and it will last longer. the color is not going to turn brown. the whole idea behind this genetically modified technology the food can last longer, you have to use less chemicals, in reality have less issues with this. there's a lot of debate about this. people think all this engineering gets in our system and could change the whole ecosystem of the bacterias. can it cause cancer? we have no data to prove it. can it change your good bacteria and change inflammation in bowels. modified fruit that can affect your kidneys and liver? i think as longer as it's labelled and people are aware of this, it's okay this is in 80% of our food, vegetables, soybean and cotton. as long as people know what they're getting. look at these strawberries.

i was having a strawberry the other day. it's the size of a baseball and not normal. whether it will change our hormones or lead to diabetes or insulin resistance, i'd be happy to hear what you think. >> it's scary. how do you know what it is you're eating. >> you should be scared about the six egg is in a week. >> yes. by the way, apples lower your cholesterol and vitamin c and high fiber. i love apples. we brought a bunch of apples here a day. an expression from the 1860s, earn an apple before going to bed and you will keep the doctor from anger his bread. >> an apal day keeps the doctor away. his issue is eating a lot of apples. >> oatmeal and apples. you eat and am or slice an am the inside starts to brown almost immediately. it's still fresh but people

don't like it aesthetically. here's the problem. t they have approved this but fda waiting to weigh in. it's possible the browning protects against in secretaseci. before we affect our genetic changes, i don't want our whole food supply affected. i don't know about you, i like that our apples brown. i don't want this. i want food the way it was meant to be. >> at certain times it's good. >> this is a big debate. there is certainly no real answer here. for example when it came to vitamin a rice. >> what? >> they made rice with a lot of vitamin a in it. in certain countries with no minerals or nutrition, in poor countries this can work really well and increase 17% the size

of crops and billions of dollars in industry. certain things work. here, given the i diabetes and obesity we have, or it too sugar that gets in our system? >> we can modify food to make it more insect resistant. that's a good thing. then the crops are less perishable. in this case we're doing it on this aesthetic sense, we want our salmon more orange looking? >> i don't want our salmon to be more orange looking, the way it swims originally. apples that don't turn brown, i wouldn't want to eat an apple that didn't turn brown on the inside. david's point is a great one. sometimes very good medical reasons, make this less resist stand to insects. if it's lest resistant to insects, more expensive. >> bottom line you don't know

the long term effect in our body and once it gets in the system, the best thing is have a label on fruits and vegetables so most people know. >> as of now it's not the law. >> my am is already turning brown. >> we're eating the stuff anyway. we don't even know about it. >> people put it on to smell great, but could all the perfumes you spritz on be taking a toll on your health? a look at the health effects of smelling really good.

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should i worry? it's about thavrg worries us. one viewer asks, i work in a small environment where a lot of men and women wearworry? >> dr. segal. it may not smell great but if it is around you, does it have an effect? >> 30% of people have bad perfumes and they have up to 5,000 chemicals. the ones we worry about are ones that can the lead birth defects actually. we don't know in what amounts. i don't want to scare people. very trace amounts. here's the problem, eric, something called fragrance sensitivity. not necessarily an allergy and maybe not involve your whole immune system. you have a runny nose and headache and eyes itchy.

that can be a reaction to the fragrance. if you have asthma, maybe issues with breathing and maybe i have to put you on anti-hist samines. if you use the stuff that doesn't ismael, tasmell, take a. 30% of people have a problem with these perfumes. >> scent-free deodorant? >> scent free soaps, all- -- >> how do you tell your co-workers it actually affects your health? remember the department stores used to walk in with a spritzer and there was a lawsuit where people were allergic to that and put it on a cart. how do you tell your co-workers, you smell great but it's ruining my sinuses. >> you communicate and make sure you're not hurting their feelings. this is a real problem. all our products, nail polish to

hairspray, you name it, you have this and there are a lot of studies being done in men it can reduce the amount of test testosterone. affect the sperm motility. it is the real deal and it has been shown to cause ovarian disease where the men youstration cycle occurs. it changes your hormones, whether estrogen or testosterone, it's the real deal. if you test 100 people out there, 95% will have some degree of this. if you sit next to this guy that wears a lot of cologne, nicely say it's affecting my sinuses and i don't feel comfortable. you can build allergies to it. what do i use? i use a blue bottle cartier cologne the past five years.

>> not the blue pill. >> i don't need it yet. >> one point here. in adolescents who love to get load upped with fragrance, the point about fertility, we don't know, 17 years old -- sorry about the blue comment. you're put this stuff under your arm, a high fragrance, it can affect fertility. >> come here, doctor. basically you should only smell someone's cologne if you're this close to them. you smell lovely but i shouldn't smell it from way over here. >> or you don't smell. i by the way, the blue pill works also. >> very expensive colleen. >> you like that. >> all right, guys, we have to move on. sorry. he is your best friend but can your fury friends tell how you're feeling? the answer and how it can impact your own health just might surprise you. . [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people.

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feeling. do you buy into that? >> absolutely. this is from a study in vienna. they looked at nine dogs, a small sample, but they looked at someone who was happy and someone who was not happy or angry, and the dogs started pressing the right buttons and they're finding out dogs can recognize our emotions. i unfortunately have never had a pet or a dog just because i've never had a chance. my operating team has always been pushing me, it's time to get a dog, so i'm looking for at least ten reasons to go out and get a dog. this is a great study because it shows that they understand our emotions, they're much smarter than we thought. in the past we've talked about the fact that dogs can have a great sense of smell, they can diagnose ovarian cancer, prostate cancer, even diabetes. the sweet smell of sugar versus when it's low and they look at acidity. so dogs are the smarter ones. to get a dog, i need nine other reasons. >> unconditional love, number two. >> give me eight more on my twitter and maybe i can get

convinced to do this. >> you just put up a great point. dogs are all about love. they're very therapeutic and animal lovers will say they get calmed down from their dogs and that's been studied. what's interesting about this study is it takes out the teeth. dogs are not interpreting your emotions based on teeth. they're basing it on your eye expressions, whether you get angry like this based on your e eyebrows, whether you raise them when you get angry. do you have to know that person very well if you're that dog, or can you deal with a stranger who has a happy emotion or an angry emotion? there was a cat named oscar the cat who literally be able to go around the nursing home and say who was about to pass away. that's how sensitive that cat was. >> it's interesting because dogs are not coming to our hospitals, and we're using them as therapeutic for cancer patients.

>> my dog loves me. >> what's his name? >> isabel. >> thank you so much for watching. thanks for joining us this sunday. i'm leland vitter. thank you for watching america's hq. >> terror in the capital city of denmark. he was known to the country's intelligence agency and that he may have been inspired by what happened in france. we will have a live report. as coalition forces launch fresh attacks against isis and syria and iraq, there is a battle now growing on capitol hill as lawmakers argue over whether the president's war powers request to fight the islamic state does too little or too much. and blizzard warnings and whiteout