tremely frustrated. >> that we're not leading the charge. >> you know who's leading on the security council? the french. >> the french are leading. >> yep. >> that's not good. rick, colonel, thank you. >> thanks. >> it stays what it is no islamic extremists. hello everyone i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with juan will yamds,iamswilliams greg bolling dana perino and greg gutfeld. this is "the five." day two of the white house summit to counter violent extremism. president obama just delivered remarks and addressed his administration's reluctance to connect religion to terror. >> leading up to this summit, there's been a fair amount of debate in the press and among pundits about the words we use to describe and frame this challenge. al qaeda and isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. they try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors in defense of islam.

we must never accept the premise that they put forward. because it is a lie. nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. they are not religious leaders. they're terrorists. no religion is responsible for terrorism. people are responsible for violence and terrorism. >> state department spokeswoman marie harf stunned a lot of people. we're going to wait on that. let's get to your remarks and comments to what president obama just had to say. >> i mean, acknowledging terror without radical islam is like blaming a hit-and-run on the car. it makes absolutely no sense. it's called islamic state. it's not called terror state. and you can't win a battle if you do not identify who you're battling. the first step, as we always know in solving a problem is admitting you have a problem. the problem here is terror denial. president obama cannot accept the cause of this terror. he's a terror denialist, and it's all due to his

islamophobia. he has a fear of islam. as you just admitted, come out with it and then we can move on. >> but it doesn't seem that he's willing to do so. >> he's in denial. >> he's in denial but i think there's no cure is the problem dane fa, because he's consistent in his remarks that he will not name and state the word islamic extremism. >> so we could -- we've been round and round on this for a couple of months. and this is what i think the president and the american people are not quite communicating well, okay? what the president is trying to do is i think it's understandable. he is saying we are not at war with people who are muslim. we are at war however, with people who call themselves part of the islamic state. that's what the american people hear. so they are confused, and he seems to be caught up in what pundits think rather than articulating and leading us to why we should believe that he's got the right answer here.

i understand what he's trying to do overall. i also think with changing circumstances on the ground and the absolute as it was referred to the genocide the attempts of genocide of christians and jews by this group, they think of this as a religious war. they are fighting for their religion. that's what they think. president obama can say that's a lie, but if you are a radical muslim that decides to join up with isis you actually think you are doing it for your religion. that's what they think. so we have to think like they do. >> okay. well, they're a little different from probably the majority of the people in their religion. it seems that this is genocide that's happening eric. >> so the speech started out just fine, in my opinion. he addressed why they refuse to say islamic terrorists or islamic extremists, okay that's fine. you have your opinion. we have another opinion whether you should be doing it or not. but then he kind of backed and fell into almost an apologetic mode to muslims around the world. not only muslims around america but around the world.

he cited the three muslim students that got shot. like bringing that you didn't seem the right place to do that because the jury's still out whether that had anything to do with their faith or if it was over a parking spot. it probably wasn't the place to do it. >> just like he brought up christians. >> but then it turned into something that i was shaking my -- i couldn't believe he did that. marie harf after getting all the grief she got after saying if we just understood the jihadists more, if we provided them with economic job opportunities, they might not be extremists, he went there with the same line of thought. right now while people are being burned, their organs are being harvested, we're sending 4,000 troops to kuwait, 26 members of the coalition are right now in saudi arabia trying to figure out how to kill these guys. and president obama spends a good amount of time talking about how we, as a global community, should offer more opportunities for underprivileged people like somehow if we just fix the poverty problem in the world, there won't be violent extremism. there won't be terror anymore.

it's ludicrous. >> poverty has nothing to do with it. many of these guys that have joined up and been really, you know, have responded to this call for jihad are well educated, come from very good families. they're not hard up for jobs. they, in fact, love the jobs that they have on their resume builder which is beheadings and burning people alive. >> you know i love mockery. that's why i come to visit. because i think you guys are really mocking marie harf today. and now by extension president obama. but i think what's going on is really president obama spoke a very important truth. again, i think what dana said is on target. he's not speaking to us at this table. he's not speaking to the american people about this. he's speaking to the muslim world saying we do not have a war against islam. we are sensitive. we are a nation that believes in religious tolerance and all the rest. and when it comes to what marie harf said specifically about jobs, i think she's saying there's a bigger picture. you can fight the militarily, and nears nothere's no doubt we have

been fighting, the united states has been fighting seven months of airstrikes. >> the point is there is actual research, factual data that shows there's no connection between poverty and care. if this was because terror is caused by a lack of jobs, you can explain it away with fort hood. that was workplace violence. the guy had a job. and he still killed a bunch of people. job or no job, radical islamists kill people. and i agree. he is talking to a specific audience. >> religion. not poverty. >> but he might want to talk to americans. he might want to look at us and go, i get this. they're crazy. >> common ground. that's exactly right. somebody was saying to me the other day if you're so smart, juan why doesn't he send two letters? you can send one letter to the international muslim community, but why can't you say anything to americans who see directly in front of them that this is islamic terror? >> yeah. >> right. exactly. all right. >> i agree. >> that's rare. >> juan, state department spokeswoman marie harf stunned a

lot of people when she said we have to help terrorists get jobs in order to win the war. well, last night she went back on television to address her critics and accused them of being the ones who don't get it. >> longer term, we have to look at how we combat the conditions that can lead people to turn to extremism. if there are 10,000 men in a country who are willing to blow themselves up because of what that persons on the internet that's much more dangerous. so how do you get at those 10,000 people? how do you get them not to pick up the ak-47 and instead do something more productive and positive with their life? it might be too nuanced for some. >> are you related to donnyson gruber? here's the s.e.a.l. who killed bin laden. >> the state department, they're into diplomacy, and that's the kind of stuff they're going to say. right now we don't need diplomacy. we'll they'd to use our military strategy. right now the people of isis, if you can call them people they

get paid to cut off heads, to crucify children, to sell slaves and to cut off heads, and i don't think a change in career path is what's going to stop them. >> good point. is this about jobs or poverty? they don't need an isis job fair, do they, at the local college campus. >> marie harf had an opportunity to explain herself a little bit better where she was coming from. i actually understand what the argument is. i get what she's coming from. just now is not the time. >> doesn't that apply in detroit, bolling instead of here? >> hold on, you guys just don't get it it may be too nuanced for you people with smaller minds and not as smart as us. quick story. i spent 18 years on the trading floor. we loved when those harvard and columbia graduates would come down. we just adored it because they spent the last five or six years in the books and not on the streets. they didn't know what was going on. we took all their little trust funds away from them and sent them on their way. what's that this is. this is a poly sci major who is

now speaking on behalf of the american people saying it's all about jobs not about terror. and if you don't get that, you're not smart enough. that's offensive and dangerous. >> she's part of that kabal, though. this is what they believe. the american apologist is a result now of what we're seeing in this jihad. i know you look quizzically at me, juan. why is that? >> because i think she was saying that the people who went after her on the internet and who's made it seem as if the united states wasn't fighting a war in addition to saying we have to address issues like poor governance in the middle east where you have all these dictators and mullahs and people who want to tell you everything. to me this is a legitimate argument. i think air eck'seric's right. if you want to focus on the fact that she said nuanced, we're just making fun of her, but gosh -- >> it's such a weird thing when people make fun of people for -- no one ever made fun of sarah

palin for what she said. >> oh is this pay backeback? >> yes, it's payback. for her to even say that people aren't as smart as she is saying -- her calling somebody stupid is like the moon calling something round. i'm sorry, but every time you hear her, you cringe. what scares me is we're up again -- and i said this before, probably the most cohesive caliphate attempt in a millennium. and you turn on the tv and you see that. you see a skit. it's a skit. >> it is. >> of pretenders. this is not a serious person who should be up there defending or talking about how we're going to defend ourselves. when you listen to her talk and you see a lot of these people in the white house, you feel like you're watching the model u.n. or some weird camp show at epcot center. i don't even know what i'm saying. >> i don't know that they would even hire her. dana, what should she be saying? >> i think she should not.

she should not speak anymore. >> perfect. >> no, this is my point. this is a little bit of advice. if the deputy spokesperson at the department of state is the lead story for three days in a row, you have a serious problem. there are several people in the state department, career foreign service officers political appointees of some stature and senate confirmed who should be out trying to explain the president's policy. instead they have her go into it, and i think she's got some good points, but i think when you are a spokesperson, you become the story. the spokesperson is the story. you have got the formula wrong. so that's why i would just stop talking. >> that's why she didn't handle it. >> do you remember who the other spokesperson from the state department was? i think it was boko haram jen psaki, who held up a sign with a #bringbackourgirls. what are they doing? >> choices. >> and jobs for terrorists. >> this is what you get. think about your choices.

>> i think dana's on target. obviously if she's the -- if marie harf is the story, the administration is losing. but let me just say i just think that the premise at this table is you've got to have a military approach. and that's not going to win. >> no, no, no. you have to have a strategy. and right now the strategy that they have is symbolism. there's no substance here. there are hashtags, there are seminars, there are pastries and ice water. >> we're not fighting? >> the whole re-election was based on the tide of war is receding, and al qaeda is on the run. now let's just take it a step further. the thing -- the follow-up question to her is then okay, so then what is the administration's plan to provide jobs? >> well, let's see. let's take it a step further because former defense secretary donald rumsfeld addressed the isis threat on fox news last night. he brought up history to remind americans to recognize what's happening today. >> it brings back to mind the period before world war ii where

people said i didn't know or i was just following orders or it's random. but when you kill, systematically kill jews and christians and say that's what you're doing it's not random. it's purposeful. the only way you can deal with something like that is to put it up on the table call it what it is, deal with it. >> all right, greg? >> well, just to finish my thought, tactics without a strategy, they're like musical instruments without a song. it's like a child banging a piano. that's why you get that -- you get this feeling when you're listening to harf. it's like you feel like the adults have left the room. and also, i do, and i will say this again. these are people who are victims of ocean privilege or practitioners of ocean privilege. they're not taking this seriously because it's way, way far away, and it won't affect them. and this whole job thing was a distraction away from religion. isis has created more jobs than president obama. sadly, they're all shovel ready.

>> no kidding. so my husband, peter was driving last night and listening to fox news. >> must be nice. >> greta's show. and he called me afterwards and he said that interview was rumsfeld was excellent. and i can see why. now, some people bristled at his kind of plain talk. okay? i like it. >> i like it. >> the american people like it. when you have academics speak that only speaks to a certain part of the population that understands because they understand nuance so much better than we all do it is refreshing to hear someone say, here's the deal. we've got a problem. it is complex. here's what we should do. here's how we should back it up, period. then people will follow. that's what leaders need to do be very clear so they can get people to come along. >> we're picking up what he's putting down. >> very quick maybe that's the strategy. maybe it's put marie harf up there, make her say something as ridiculous as that is and everyone says did you hear what

she said instead of saying we really don't have a strategy and isis is winning. i shouldn't say that. >> i just want jordan, the saudis, the arab emirates i want those guys to get involved. i think their people are getting killed now very publicly in the way that we've seen others targeted. you know secretary rumsfeld talked about christians and jews. muslims are getting killed where's the muslim world? >> i don't think that's fair. >> of course it's fair. >> i'm saying that they are -- they are fighting. they are providing arms. they're providing money. they're providing -- >> airstrikes. >> -- airstrikes, pilots. >> they should be on the front lines, not the united states. >> the entire military of jordan is 60,000 people. the entire military. >> right. >> so what more could they do? they could put all 60,000 there. that's not enough. >> well, they can get together. get jordan get the kuwaitis. >> that is a pipe dream. >> all right. next on "the five," your 2016 update including a big

foreign policy speech today from jeb bush who had some tough words for president obama's global strategy. stay tuned.

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new 2015 developments. let's begin with jeb bush the likely gop contender gave an early preview of his foreign policy vision today in chicago, and he shared these thoughts about president obama's global strategy. >> the great irony of the obama presidency is this. someone who came to office promising greater engagements with the world has left america less influential in the world. they draw red lines. and then erase them. with grandioseity, they announce resets and then disengage. hashtag campaigns replace actual diplomacy and engagement. personal diplomacy and maturity is replaced by leaks and personal disparagement. the examples keep piling up. president obama called isis the junior varsity. four days after they took fallujah. >> the former florida governor also used the opportunity to distinguish himself from presidents 41 and 43 his father and his brother, on foreign affairs. >> i've also been fortunate to have a father and a brother who

helped shape america's foreign policy from the oval office. i admire their service to the nation and the difficult decisions that they had to make. but i'm my own man, and my views are shaped by my own thinking and my own experiences. new circumstances require new approaches. >> okay, so juan everybody's been waiting for this. each of the candidates is having to distance themselves from somebody. jeb probably has the more difficult task than all of them. do you think that he did it well? today? >> yeah. you know look. i confess, i think he's pretty strong candidate, but the problem is his last name for people who think oh we've had enough of bushes in the white house, the last two republican presidents. >> like clinton. >> well yeah that's a good retort. that's legit. that's not a joke. i mean seriously. you could say that. especially if clinton is the opposite. so here he comes and i think the most important thing he said today, all the anti-obama stuff you can expect, but what he said that was important is he's his own man. now, clearly people who are

going to say oh you know don't forget the last two wars. we're not happy. weapons of mass -- go on and on. or go back to his dad on the military, the cia. here he is saying he's separate. and now, i'm not sure that he laid out how he's separate but the idea that he would be willing to take the family friction, i imagine when he goes home, somebody's going to say what do you mean, you're separate from me? >> i think that they all expected it. eric, i wanted to ask you this. the first shot that he took was against obama. and it was about iran which is -- there's actually bipartisan agreement in the congress against what the administration is planning to do with iran. not complete, but a lot of disappointment with the president on that. do you think that was a smart move, or should he have done something a little bit more risky? >> i think he was -- i think you're right. it was a very safe and multimessage. it was a very safe address. he talked about the things you would expect him to talk about. i don't think he varied from the script whatsoever. but why should he right now? he seems to be the front-runner.

he -- things seem to be going his way. the issues that are going to haunt him -- yeah, maybe the bush name will haunt him, but things like his stance on common core, his stance on immigration, those are things he'll have to work through. >> but we're talking about foreign policy, okay. >> fair enough, but again was he going to bring anything new to the table? i'm not sure. >> well i don't know if you had a chance to view the q&a. he gave a discriminated peach and then afterwards a q&a that was pretty free-ranging. what did you think? >> i've been skeptical of bush. i have to say this is a very key speech because of the foreign policy. a candidate that's going to win no beyonce, no gay marriage no war on women you -- president obama and his administration has handed you the issue, and that is the world is in peril. jeb criticized obama on iraq on iran on isis on israel. isn't it weird that everything obama's screwed up begins with the letter "i"?

anyway. the key -- >> whoa, yeah. >> the key is jeb bush has to renew america as an intimidating military power that should be more feared than liked. expressing strength in certitude of mission. you do that, you will win the white house because that's what america looks for. stay away from the social stuff. foreign policy all the way. >> so that's interesting. i was going to ask you about this. foreign policy usually is not a very big determinant in a presidential election. it's usually more dmekeconomics unless there is reason. right now if the election were to be held tomorrow -- >> there is big reason to put it at the forefront, and that's why people have a choice. i'm going to evaluate him on his own merits. i don't care what his last name is. i want somebody that's going to be strong, decisive and formidable in the white house. if he's the guy, so be it. good, he has the benefit of experience from being up close with the family with the two predecessors, with his father,

with his brother. okay, great. but guess what? when bush left we were in a better position after six years of president obama with respect to our relationship with our allies, and we were certainly more feared by our enemies. so i'll take that any day of the week. >> let me pick up on what greg said. i quiet. >> make no mistake, to use somebody's favorite phrase no matter who the republican nominee is the left will tag them as wanting to take them back into the bush years. that will be the tagline. >> any republican person has to combat against that. it doesn't matter what the last name is. there is. that's my point. we were better off. >> this goes back to hillary, though. why is she so entitled? because she was secretary of state, and the reset button turned out to be a detonator. there's nothing she can claim that worked. so i don't see how the democrats can just say okay, it's you after all this. >> elizabeth warren. >> what's his name? >> which one? >> the dude. i can't think.

webb. >> jim webb? >> yeah. >> from virginia? >> yeah. >> okay, sure. i like him. >> oh. a candidate. >> i've got to run. >> is chelsea clinton in politics at all? because i can't handle this. >> i think she will be. >> wait a minute. what about roger clinton? >> aha! >> that's a good one. >> i'm going to go. ahead one of the president's closest advisers says there have been no major white house scandals over the last six years. really? greg helps jog david axelrod's memory next. ♪ it's all blown away ♪

♪ david axelrod is proud of what, you say? listen. >> i'm proud of the fact that basically, you've had an administration that's been in place for six years in which

there hasn't been a major scandal. and i think that says a lot about the ethics of this administration. >> no major scandal? no major scandal? maybe if you adhere to some absurd high standard it's true. it turns out joe biden is not a crayon-eating space ghost. and obama hasn't been devouring expensive show dogs as midnight snacks. and no, john kerry is not really a highly evolved tree. some were wondering. axelrod's logic only works if you ignore slight matters like the irs targeting civilians over their beliefs and covering it up. blaming terror on a video that no one saw. millions losing health care after being told they would keep it. the bowe bergdahl freak show the epa's collusion with the green lobby. so no major scandals at all, the epa, doj, nsa, hhs, irs, atf.

if these aren't scandals they're one hell of an eye chart. the real scandal is this two-headed beast. one of ideology and one of accomplice. a mix of toxic ideologies immunized by fan boys in the media. if a progressive breaks the law in a forest full of media suck-ups, did it really happen? the scandal isn't obama's actions but those whose job was to report them. instead they knitted their own blindfolds. to them each scandal was progress. so sorry, dave. saying no major scandal is like saying no major pregnancies. especially when the media is your own personal planned parenthood. >> wow! there's a lot going on there. >> there was a lot going on there. i'm a little hungover. k.g., is this what you'd expect though? like can you blame axelrod? this is his side. it's his political ideology and that trumps truth. >> last time i checked, he wasn't on the payroll. what's the excuse? i actually prefer the honesty

that we've seen from people like leon panetta others that haven't been afraid to come out and tell the truth. axelrod knows better. he's a bright guy. i'm surprised that he can actually say with a straight face that there have been no major scandals. i mean this is an administration that has been replete with scandals, and that is going to be a problem for hillary clinton because if obama's wearing the pants, she's the belt. >> nice. >> yeah. i like that? >> very nice. >> i liked the applause at the end. wasn't that great applause? >> he's selling a book. that's what he's doing. he sat down with o'reilly, made a couple of comments about obama's pushing back on evolving on gay marriage and those types of things. he's u.s. being outrageous to sell a book. this is what they seem to like to do. look, the left really doesn't think these are scandals, though. i was reading a piece this morning from msnbc, and they're literally quoting some of the things that we said at this table and saying -- >> again? >> yeah. we're ginning up and manufacturing the story when there isn't one when we know the

american people want to know what's going on and let us decide if it's scandal or not. not the guy selling the books. >> juan, you believe nothing that i mentioned at all on that list was a scandal. >> the eye chart part, that was scandalous. but, i mean people make mistakes. we were talking about everything from fast and furious to -- >> irs. >> -- irs. people make mistakes. people do stupid things. was any of it intentional and intended to line somebody's pocket? it is a scandal in the way that we think? i just don't see it. >> you could also be scandalous by hiding it after the fact like when people died at benghazi, as greg points out, that's scandalous. >> the irs e-mails, the epa. it was crazy. >> the director of the epa who is not supposed to be e-mailing off of a government account but had set up an alias named richard windsor, and she was e-mailing with all of the different groups. then she resigned quietly and it all went away because the press didn't focus on it. >> i agree but how much of a

scandal is that? >> if the media doesn't press it and that's to greg's point. if you were to ask david axelrod, okay, that's your perspective. what were the scandals of the bush administration? >> right. >> they would say karl rove and valley plame. turns out karl rove didn't leak the name. it was richard armitage and the prosecutor knew it the whole time. but that's the scandal because that's what the media followed for all of those years. >> exactly, and put them in "vanity fair" as heroes. >> yes. all right. enough. a-rod -- who's he -- resurfaces from his doping suspension with a dopey handwritten apology. next on "the five."

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one decorus host. yesterday alex rodriguez delivered a written apology to baseball fans for taking performance enhancing drugs. in it, he says quote, i take full responsibility for the mistakes that led to my suspension for the 2014 season. i accept the fact that many of you will not believe my apology or anything that i say at this point. i understand why and that's on me. but some are less likely to accept the serial late-season fader. it wasn't so long ago he swore he wasn't juicing, and then he was. >> for the record, have you ever used steroids, human growth hormone or any other performance enhancing substance? >> no. i did take a banned substance. and, you know, for that, i'm very sorry. and deeply regretful. >> so should we forgive and forget? we're going to take it around the horn starting at third base. k.g. >> wlt, iell, i think it's never too late to apologize. i like a handwritten note just as much as the next gal. >> shortstop, juan.

>> i wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth. i mean, this is just so self-serving at this point. >> whatbetter to have done nothing at all? >> you notice he didn't go on tv and didn't have anybody talk to him about it. >> showed him how he said no i didn't, yes, i did. >> i'm sorry, not my hero. >> center field says you know what? you could eliminate all this if you stop making performance enhancing drugs against the rules in baseball. dana, second base. >> excellent penmanship. i don't know. i don't really care. i mean the thing is for me, i don't know enough about the sport. i don't think people should do drugs. i don't do drugs. i think that he shouldn't have an unfair advantage over people. but baseball, it seems you could get tens of millions of dollars it doesn't matter what you do. >> i thought you did steroids. >> look at greg's face. >> oh, i don't do drugs, so nobody else could. well, let's create all the laws based on what you do. >> oh the world would be so

calm and peaceful. >> oh my god it would be horrible. >> wow! >> what you said exactly what i was going to say, which is the story, it's the penmanship. his penmanship is amazing because nobody can write anymore because we're all using computers. do you know that i got a check -- >> that's why i like this. >> -- sent back from the bank my mortgage check, because they said they couldn't read the number 13. tell them to wait. we're packing the show with too much crap. have you tried to dial a rotary phone? you can't. you can't. you don't have the muscles! >> okay, andy rooney. >> we've been hammered with snow this winter and it seems bostonians are crazy. they started a new thing, snow jumping from their windows. mayor martin walsh thinks that's a bad idea. >> it's a foolish thing to do. and you could kill yourself. so i'm asking people to stop their nonsense right now. these are adults jumping out windows. and the last thing we want to do is have to report to an

emergency call where somebody jumped out the window because they thought it was a funny thing to do. >> to get an idea of what the mayor is warning against, take a look at some of these stunts compiled by jimmy kimmel. >> ah! >> blizzard challenge 2015. three-story roof. come on, baby. whoo hoo! shot out the [ bleep ] window! dang. dang. >> i'm all for this. i'm a big -- i'm a big proponent of survival of the thinnest. if you can thin the herd, i'm all for it. also i don't like the government telling me what i can do with my body. >> clearly you don't listen. >> if you went into one of those drifts, no one would ever find you. >> what about you, dana? >> i think that -- okay.

>> just a little snowflake. >> i would say to them, you will be the last to be picked up by the ambulance if you do this. and when the ambulance comes the charge will be times five no appeal. you have to pay it. >> okay. juan, you've jumped off a roof into snow, haven't you? >> no. if >> i've done it. >> you've done it? >> hell, yeah. yeah. >> you did this? >> yes. one story, though not three. and i certainly went feet first contrary to what all the liberals might think. >> i would never do that. i would only jump head first. >> you hear the shot i just took from the left, from second base over here. >> second base. he should have been the shortstop. >> this is amazing. check out this "wheel of fortune" contestant nailing a 17-letter two-word puzzle. first you try it at home. roll that first part. >> the category is event, and rufus, we start with you. a letter, please. >> "t." >> one "t." >> did you get it yet? no?

all right. let's do it over now. here's rufus behold his amazingness. >> a letter, please. >> "t." >> one "t." >> championship match. >> yeah, that's right. whoa! whoa! >> whoa! >> whoa! >> how cool is that, dana? >> i love "wheel of fortune." here's the thing. if you are aware of the category and you try to figure it out, you've got to start thinking about the category. there's not enough emphasis on that. >> i have to -- that was one of the easiest puzzles i've ever seen. you look at the number -- you can tell just by the size of the words what it is by the number of syllables. i could have done that in the dark. by the way -- >> oh, my gosh. >> he shouldn't have won because he didn't frame the answer in the form of a question. >> that's "jeopardy!." whoa! i thought at first somebody was

sleeping with vanna. >> oh, my goodness. >> i was just kidding. no, with vanna. not with pat. >> go ahead. no, no, i got what you mean. sleeping with vanna, she gave him the answer prior. >> not pat. not pat. >> obviously. anyway. >> hi, pat. >> that was amazing. that was unbelievable. i got to think going back, the only way i can deduce that he did this was that championship is such a long word. >> that's my point. >> event right? >> it's easy. >> that's a category analysis it's very important when you play every night. >> you should go on that for sure but not with kareem because that was awkward. >> we've got to go. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back.

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♪ and i'll take you home after ♪ last week the university of massachusetts at amherst decided to ban certain people from entering science and engineering programs. it cited a 2012 federal law that denies iranian citizens visas if they plan to participate in course work for a career in nuclear power in iran. but after the decision made headlines, the state department stepped in and the school has reversed course. eric? >> so the state department

stepped in and talked to the school, and they changed their mind but in 2013, the department of homeland security clarified the 2012 ruling -- this is their line iranian citizens are ineligible for u.s. visas if they can seeking higher education in preparation for iran's nuclear science or nuclear engineering fields. it's pretty plain right there in writing. they say they're not allowed. >> so what the university said is it's too difficult to get through the bureaucracy to clear anybody so instead we'll ban them. what do you say, dana? >> not having a clear policy leads to very sloppy results and i think out of the sectors that eric just listed petroleum natural gas, nuclear science nuclear engineering, those are the fields that you would study if you came to study chemical engineering in the united states. i think it's a mess.

>> and you think they shouldn't have reversed course or not? >> if an iranian wants to come here and study, i think that we should allow them to study and convert them to be working for our cia. >> interesting. >> let them stay here. >> i was thinking, this is kind of a cold war strategy you really want to mess with iran have their students take the horrible classes that our students are already taking like women's studies or gender studies or social science because they will learn absolutely nothing that will help them in the real world. they will be completely useless. >> they might be nicer to women when they go back. >> that's a fair point. but remember there was a real story where, in fact the cia was giving the iranians bad plans to make nuclear weapons, and then somebody told. that led to a problem.

that would be a good way to do it. >> they are less than a year away from being a nuclear breakout nation. good job that we're ahead of the game. >> stay with us.

it's time now for one more thing. greg? >> one of the precursors to the five was a classic show called the mclaughlin group. i watched it all the time.

now they're auditioning for new panelists. remember, you should always make sure that your panelists can get out of the chair. take a look. >> oh, my god, that's hilarious. >> apparently he'll be replacing fred the beetle barnes. i had nothing. >> okay, that was weird. let's get on to one that's awesome, mine. okay, so people are snow diving head first. there is sunshine in another part of the world. there's a boy having a great time with a dolphin. and feeding the dolphin which is very cute. there he is. a good time was had by all. >> that dolphin is a photo hog. >> there you go. i know right.

he's like take my picture again. >> today is ash wednesday, kicks off lent for many, many christians around the world. advent evangelical lutheran church in florida maybe -- ohio i'm sorry, decided to come up with an idea, drive-through anxious. ashes. a lot of people are up in arms. i for one am okay with it. listen. >> i'm glad he did a prayer. i think god understands. >> totally agree. >> absolutely. >> my church does it at the subway stop. >> i like that. i think it's good. >> okay it's a chinese new year too. ash wednesday. >> some facts aren't necessary. >> thank you, juan. it's also wednesday. >> anyway, so it's a one-year anniversary of jimmy fallon on the tonight show. last night to celebrate he and

taylor swift well they pretended they were at the ball engaged did the dance cam. take a look. >> we're famous jumbotron dancers. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> juan you know when the producer gives you something for one more thing, you don't have to use it. >> i liked that. dana wanted to know if it was real. dana was impressed. >> dana said do you think that's funny? >> didn't you ask me if it was real? >> i asked you if it was real because it wasn't funny. that's why i asked you if it was real. >> one more thing, go. >> i have a follower named rory holmes on twitter and yesterday he talked about brown university and how they wanted to ban the rotc.

a different things happens. the men's hockey team wore camo and when they play their hockey match the other day in honor of the student veterans -- >> we're out. that's it. bye. this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. president obama says the world must confront terrorists who use twisted ideologies and also address grievances of those who would do others harm. the president spoke to a global counter-terrorism summit a short time ago at the white house. our chief white house correspondent is there with more on the president's message. >> reporter: the president as community organizers trying to get local muslim leaders to help stop the recruitment of young jihadists but offered little about christians and jews being slaughtered.