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we have been making a big deal going back to the dinosaurs every horrible thing happening on this planet fox is responsible for. you guys have been e-mailing on it tonight 8 p.m. hello i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with stacy dash and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." this week rudy giuliani questioned president obama's love for his country and he is not backing down. >> if the president makes a speech and talks about what a great country this is, if the president could complete the following sentence, during the crusades the christians were barbarians and so were the muslims. if the president could say islamic fundamentalest terrorism is our enemy i will applaud the president. but until he does that i will
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have doubt about his emotions, his feelings, his attitudes and the way in which he developed. >> agree or disagree with the mayor? there is no doubt the president has been publically critical of america to the rest of the world. >> there have been times where america has shown arrogance and been dismissive. >> americans are not your enemy. we sometimes make mistakes. we have not been perfect. >> i realize that america's critics will be quick to point out that at times we have failed to live up to our ideals, that america has plenty of problems within its own borders. this is true. >> just before he took office then senator obama said this -- >> we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america. >> so is it fair to question why
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he would want to transform a country that he himself has said he loved? >> to quote reverend wright the chickens have come home to roost. i disagree with rudy in the sense that i do believe the president loves his country but he loves it in a different way. when we see america we see the best thing in the world. when he sees america he sees the world's angry aunt with a shotgun. part of the family but always causing problems. it is not dislike but patronizing superiority. he is saying we can do better he is saying be like me. be like me because i am better. he always wishes that america would reflect his progressive ideology and be more like belgium or something more manageable and less aggressive and less arrogant than that
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angry aunt with the shot gun who is always showing up shooting at kids. he wants us to be likable and nice. that is why he brought up open change. you can't blame giuliani for having suspicion that perhaps he doesn't like us as much as previous presidents. i would stop there. >> let's continue. >> i think it is a good ending. >> giuliani brought up the company that the president has kept. you get a sense in the measure of a person by the people they surround themselves with. the people we grow up with whether professionally or academically can help shape us. i think that is what people are responding to saying the president perhaps has a different view point. he doesn't seem to want to favor american exceptionalism. when you see the people he has been in company with like reverend wright. it does give you pause. >> perhaps obama loves america
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and has a funny way of showing it. if you look at the words he said and the deeds he has taken he said it is not an exceptional nation. after americans were killed he went golfing and to fund raisers. he called half of the country bitter clingers. he didn't like the way the flags were after 9/11. a lot of the people that think the president doesn't like america there is a reason for that and gives ammunition to people. >> you look at these when you brought up reverend wright president obama sat in the front row when this man is preaching saying things like not god bless america but god blank america. take a look at him there. that is why people are upset. you say what are you even condoning and hanging out with someone like this if you love america.
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>> if america were a woman he would have kicked her out of bed by now. it's obvious. he does not love the country in its current state. he said he fundamentally wants to change the country. he overrides his military, his commanders in chief. he will not allow us to be the superpower that we are. he under mines every step of the way. he half steps everything. that's not who we are. to me that shows that he does not love this country. >> let me ask you this. why do you think people are so reluctant to take the president of the united states for his word when he says things like this? >> he doesn't keep his word. he says he is going to do something and doesn't do it. >> juan you are shaking your head. your thoughts have been percolating. >> i am in awe of this kind of celebration of you know, insulting the president of the united states when -- >> no one is insulting him. >> there's nothing wrong with
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being critical. when the left was this kind of critical and demeaning of president bush i called them out and i said you don't talk about the president of the united states in those terms. now here you are talking about -- >> no one is calling -- >> let me finish. >> no one is calling the president any names here. we are doing an analysis of his own words. >> giuliani says the president does not love america. it seems that violates patriotic good sense to talk about our president in that way to the world. it is over the line for liberals when attacking bush. >> how about president obama calling president bush unpatriotic? >> this is divisive and invites racial tension. this seems to me is wrong headed -- >> no one introduced the race card until you just did. >> you brought it up. >> you say -- >> one at a time. >> let me tell you something.
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a minute ago it was said at this table he didn't grow up like the rest of us. if you don't grow up -- i guess i don't know where you are supposed to grow up and be exactly like this to be an american but different is not allowed. >> it doesn't have anything to do with race, juan. i know you have condemned things the right said about the left. i remember a long time ago a few years ago when the obama campaign arm said that romney murdered a woman with cancer. >> we have back and forth -- >> the one at a time. >> the left made a movie glamorizing the assassination of george w. bush. hostage takers during the debt ceiling crisis. >> someone questions the president's patriotism. >> let me make a point that perhaps when he said america he meant the actress.
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>> that is who he kicked out of bed. >> i want to agree with juan on a specific point about how to argue something. when giuliani says something does he confirm or does he convert anyone? there are three groups of people. there are people that agree with you that obama is a terrible president. there are people who don't agree with you who think he is doing a great job of a progressive leader and then people in the middle who are waiting to be convinced as the new election comes up as which direction the country is going, questioning obama's patriotism isn't exactly the right way to convert people. you can be persuasive focusing on his academic background and focusing actions as they pertain to his past beliefs, the people he hung around with or professors that he had. you can get to the same conclusion i believe without saying other things. what giuliani says is great for
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talk television. you don't win converts but only confirm those with your assumptions. >> seems like a divisive call attention to himself more so than a real valid criticism of the president. >> he started the sentence with i know this is going to be a terrible thing to say. >> you know you are in trouble the minute you start down that path. >> addressing a group of people that were probably supporters of rudy. >> he is tailoring a speech and stands by his words. this is a bright man. one i don't think anybody doubts whether rudy giuliani loves america. >> i doubt if he loves the president. >> it is what it is. >> he knew he didn't love the president. you never heard rudy giuliani when wall street threatened america's economic foundation that these hedge fund guys are
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greedy and acting in the best interest of themselves not america. >> no problem saying it. this is not >> i don't have a direct response from mr. giuliani's comments. i don't take joy or vindication or satisfaction from that. the only thing i feel is i feel sorry for rudy giuliani. >> you think rudy giuliani has lost it? >> i don't know. >> those kind of hard hitting questions. inappropriate response? >> i don't know. what are you going to do. this is a team sport. what is terrible about this story in a way is when you think about these two people how they can work together president
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obama and rudy giuliani are like a cop team in which one is the nice wimpy cop and the other gets crapped on. it is like l.a. confidential. you put obama out there to appease your adversaries and then giuliani in the back waging war. >> i wish it was possible instead of the games we got something done on immigration on health care. i can go on. >> the media is really in the tank here to act like all outrage and then carry water for this guy. i remember when sarah palin was accused of having something to do with the shooting death of gabby giffords. we had so many insulting things said by the left. biden republicans want to put you guys back in chains.
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>> all of a sudden some exmayor has beef. >> you are minimizing rudy giuliani. i don't know if this is good for your career. >> he is spoken for already. i think he is okay. >> i have to say i am saddened by this president because he had a chance to unite us in such a profound way being the first black president and instead did the exact opposite. i really don't think so. >> he did it or rudy did? >> the president. >> it's now obama. let's blame obama. >> i was thinking about the race thing when you brought up the race. >> i didn't bring it up.
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you have to be raised in a certain way and that is who he is speaking to. >> there are three -- as a leader of the super power of the world you are the commander in chief. so you should be able to unite people of your country that you are leading. >> i think he does. >> are you joking? >> most polarizing president. when it comes to our military i don't think there is any president who expressed himself better than president obama in terms of support of military. >> you couldn't be more wrong. >> greg? >> i think that when you talk about there has always been an issue with the idea of unity. one side said he is unified and others say he is most divisive ever. he is like a high school coach
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who is also a teacher who has athletes in his class that he favors. so the athletes who are in his class can get away with more because he is also their coach. i think that's the problem. >> wait a second who are the people he favors? >> i would say he favors what i would consider minority marginal classes that he thinks do not have power. he will always take the side of the powerless over the powerful. >> i think a lot of people would debate and say wall street is booming and look at the poverty rate in the country. there would be discussion about that. i think when you look at -- >> there we go. so she -- >> middle class is like on nutrisystem. next on "the five" it isn't just hillary's foreign policy legacy that can hurt her. new revelations about her past
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♪ the other cable networks ubsesz over rudy giuliani's comments about obama they are barely covering a scandal. giuliani has gotten almost 3,000 mentions over the last two days. the story about hillary clinton just 13. "wall street journal" reports during clinton's time as secretary of state she pushed government to sign deals and change policies to the advantage of corporate giants companies who donated millions to the clinton foundation and the charity is still taking money from foreign governments which is said to be a clear conflict
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of interest if he is going to run in 2016. >> because of the perception. no way you should have someone thinking about running for president taking money from foreign countries. what is it they are expecting for that money? a couple of countries support terrorism. she is on record saying they support terrorism and yet she is taking money from them. i don't get it. >> hillary is taking this secretive dark arab world money and a lot of countries have spotty track records when it comes to terrorism and a lot can't drive. >> human rights abuses. this doesn't look good. the clinton foundation has become kind of a slush fund. and they don't have to disclose any information, not as much as regular superpack. how damaging do you think this is to hillary? >> i think if you are predisposed you can't wait to use that point with all your neighbors that are on the fence or completely in the bag for
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hillary. >> but it's legal. you were able to get donations they are not breaking the law. whether or not you find it to be morally or ethically. >> some people might say ethically dubious. i say this is ethically wrong. this is not good. this is insider access to american politicians. and they know it's wrong because remember when she was secretary of state the foundation stopped taking money from folks. >> why is it okay now? >> she says she is not official officially a candidate. of course she is going to be the candidate. so people are going to pay so they can say we gave money and get access. you can see this with american companies and also with foreign countries not supposed to make contributions to our politicians. they can do it through this back
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door. i think this is influence. >> you talk about republicans going to attack her. democrats. >> because it is just wrong. you can't do that. >> this is what they have been doing for years. we had the white water, we had secretive chinese money pouring in. >> a lot of money secrets. >> they were basically running out of the white house with silverware and furniture. what is it with the clintons with this money grubbing and ethical boundary violations? >> they are like bank robbers. >> it just shows what a hypocrit she is. i think it's good for us. >> you think it's good? >> gutfield, the clinton
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foundation has about $1.6 billion. >> or maybe isn't that -- >> i'm not certain that hillary made billions but all of her pant suits are 100% spotted oil. now when she throws a lamp at bill it's tiffany. that's good. who knew she was such a fan of capitalism. my beef is that i'm totally okay with whatever you do. i'm okay with you getting rich. don't condemn the rest of us for doing the same thing or trying to do the same thing. the progressive left, they love the rich as long as those who are rich prevent others from doing the same thing. that is whey you have so many left wing billionaires clamping down at everybody else. it is a hypocrisy of it all. it makes me sick to my stomach. >> somebody bring in the pepcid ac. >> isn't this how government
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works, juan? people get into office. they convince foreign governments for these contracts for multinationals and then get a kick back when they run for reelection? >> you are such a cynic. i just think it's rotten that she thinks that everybody else is just blind to this reality. by the way, they weren't trying to hide it. you can go on the website and then tell you about this money coming in. i think they thought no big deal. it's not about the rich. i don't know that the rich have such foundation. from the democratic side people are worried about hillary clinton's relationship to wall street all these years that she is too much in the company and in supportive of big corporations and wall street. this is food not just for republicans but for elizabeth warren to say as a populous what
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are we doing with a candidate in bed with all big money companies in the united states as well as everybody else. >> she is in bed with the companies and bill is in bed with the company. >> but stacy is kicking them out of bed. >> that is obama. >> thank you very much. still ahead facebook friday. >> looking forward to answering questions up next. for all the takes on the hip hop community, is he right? we'll debate. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower?
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i said it before and i will say it again. rappers like jay-z, snoop dogg and others are hurting the black
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community by promotesing a hip hop culture that is dysfunctional. geraldo rivera made a similar comment. >> hip hop has done more damage to black or brown people than racism in the last ten years. >> i love russell simmons. i admire his business acumen. at some point they have to come to the fact that encouraging this culture that is removed from the mainstream they have encouraged people to be so different from the mainstream that they can't participate other than you know the entry level jobs. i lament it. >> lament it? it makes me cry geraldo. you have exactly spoken the truth and put yourself at risk for all those clowns out there who say geraldo went against hip
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hop so he is not hip and happening. here is what is hip and happening. in hip hop culture you can play to the worst racial stereotypes of black people and say you are celebrating black culture. you can make black men out to be nothing but sexual deviants. you can say black women are nothing but [ bleep ] and then say i'm keeping it real. all you are doing is playing to young people often times coming from broken families and instead they are looking at someone like snoop dogg and snoop dogg is talking about can you control and it is all right to slap your [ bleep ] and they say that is what it means to be a real black man? that is what is going on. nelly, the young black women at spelman college in '05 had to say no to nelly when he wanted to have a concert.
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he said take the credit card and swipe it through a part of the female anatomy. that is helping black culture? stacy, i'm strong on this one. it infuriates me. >> you disagree with geraldo? >> god bless geraldo. >> i disagree with geraldo. coming from a hip hop family, my cousin is damon dash. he started rockefeller records with jay-z. i know for a fact that this is a way for men to legitimize their lives, make their lives legitimate through art. it sells and makes money and it is capitalization. it is capitalizing on what you have, what your life has given you. some of the messages are very not good towards women and family but some of the messages are about working hard, doing what you have to do to achieve. you are looking at all of the negatives. there are a lot of positives.
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not only towards kids listening to wrap music. i know everyone of us here listens to wrap music. >> vanilla ice. >> i had a starter jacket. l.a. kings hat. it was the most embarrassing thing of my life. >> it is worse now. you just told everyone. >> i didn't get tattoos. my parents kept me in check. i didn't break laws or anything like that. i got out of that phase and then worked for fox news. >> you have a hashtag on your head. >> i don't think rap -- i think it is a symptom. i don't know if it is the disease. a lot of problems in the community, family, economy. >> let's go to the man who is at this table who is an expert on american culture, dr. greg gutfeld. >> i agree with our clueful person, not clueless.
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i feel like the same criticism was wielded at sinatra rolling stones, punk rock and goth and death metal. i agree with you, you can't dress like goth or gang banger and get a job at the apple store. you have to be smart enough to figure it out. does hip hop contribute to certain behaviors? the people who listen to hip hop the most are white people. to juan's point whenever there was a lifestyle with some sort of risk that is glorified there are certain elements of the population that don't have the luxury of a safety net. they don't have wealthy parents who can get them to good colleges. a white kid can listen to nwa all through college and get a great job. a black kid that age may not have the same opportunities and may end up i don't know still listening to that into his 30s and 40s. it is about rebelling against the norm of what has always been. >> i am all for wearing the
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starter jacket and the hat backwards and having his pants hanging down. >> i don't want to see that. >> i'm cool with my brother here. but i must tell you it is different for that kid that you are talking about, the kid who thinks it is the big deal to buy the sneakers and have the hub caps. >> you also have to have -- you can't blame music and artistic expression just like you blame a famous artist for controversial painting suggesting violence. you have to have individual choice. there are people who have different opportunities and very blessed. it doesn't mean you cannot succeed in life despite your background or some of the opportunities you have available. the only issue i have with the music is the violence and promoting domestic violence towards women because i have seen too many horrific cases working as a prosecutor in the l.a. d.a.'s office.
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it's time for facebook friday sponsored by william duvane. >> i can't help it. >> i am supposed to get this rolling. >> first question from nick. what is your drink of choice when you are out at the bar and why? >> johnny walker blue. >> fast and to the point.
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>> i have been out with her. >> you can stand behind her and worry she is not going to order a mojito. >> do people say you look like ross on friends? >> i say ross on friends looks like me. i ran into him on o'reilly one time and i said do you mind if we get a picture together. he goes sure. i said i bet a lot of guys don't ask you that. >> this is from sandy. how do you feel about your son being republican and do you talk politics? >> yes at the top of our lungs. i think he is a terrific guy. i just on some issues it's hard. >> the thing is i can't throw turkey at you.
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i have to behave here. >> i will catch it with my mouth. >> i have a lot of practice. >> this question sounds like you wrote it. >> kimberly while looking at something else the other day by accident i noticed that george clooney's paternal grandmother was a guilfoyle. are you related? >> answer, yes. this is true because in ireland where i'm from the southern part of ireland apparently we are related. there was nothing weird going on. it's okay. no one needs to call the authorities. the source and i are friends. >> we know the real story about george. >> this is for me. do you have a date night with your wife and if so what do you do? a, no, b, none of your business if i did. i hate dates.
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it is a fruit. >> how did you meet her? >> i don't have a date night. >> that is his wedding picture. that is what is so funny. >> we got married at city hall. >> look at him. >> are you on lsd in that picture? >> the guy on the left pixilated. >> he is my best man. we call him blurry. >> you did well. next question from tucker. does it bother you when people say you are wrong for being a black woman republican? >> no it does not. no. >> this is from brittany what is one of your favorite things about bill o'reilly? >> where do i begin? how long do we have? we could be here all day. >> look at them. the two of them together. >> i like his patience.
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very patient man. >> what are you doing? >> i love everything about him. >> that's great. >> where are we? juan, please name your hero and why. this is from beverly. >> a hero. >> and why? >> well, i think greg gutfeld, kimberly guilfoyle, all heroes. >> thurgood marshall. >> i wrote a book. >> the funny thing about it is sometimes the people i think are heroes are not well known to the public but i think they are people of character and virtue. those are the people i look up to. >> randy, why are you so beautiful? no. what is your most favorite comfort food? >> how much time do we have?
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>> a minute. >> i love red beans and rice and miss me. i love chicken wings as you know from our 4th of july. i love bacon steak and potatoes. i love seven layer nacho dip, too. that's a good one and artichoke dips. >> that was interesting. this is to me from rita d. are you an only child? no. i actually have three older sisters. it was great. when you are the youngest boy with three older sisters you get away with a lot and see a lot of things that you should never see. >> but then the sleep over factor. >> one of the most amazing experiences ever especially if you are not prepared for it when you are in the awkward stage of puberty and weird creatures running around your house.
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it's time now for one more thing. what you got? >> well, fox news goes behind enemy lines to bring you this picture of kim kim jong-un in north korea. what's with the dr. evil sculpted eyebrows? what's with the eraser head here? we don't know! we don't know! . we've got to figure it out. it must mean something. >> oh, my gosh. >> wow. >> goodness.
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>> okay. greg -- >> i'm going to be on o'reilly tonight. the actual show, i might add. and it's -- it's a very special episode. also, i'm banning a phrase, i don't disagree. when you're saying i don't disagree, you save a lot more time if you say, i agree. don't say i don't disagree. >> you were looking at yourself. it was getting weird. as it comes to the royal family, which greg loves, president obama will be hosting prince charles and his wife camilla at the white house on march 19th. so, as you recall, i did also host the royal couple on -- there we go. >> any opportunity you can show that -- >> and the royals. you know how i love them. they're going to visit, the duchess will visit with them in the u.s. march 17th through the
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20th. they'll see the president and this is part of the whole partnership between the uk, our great ally and the u.s. so i just want to let you know that they love great home cooked food and organic and naturally grown, is their favorite. >> no one cares. >> they do. >> it's the way to their hearts. get the white house chef in gear. >> everyone cares besides you. okay. >> so goes all over the world and we cause trouble and we only show you about four minutes each monday. but a lot of stuff we don't show you, there's a reason for that. it's because it embarrasses me. i commit a lot of bloopers and make a lot of mistakes. tonight on the "o'reilly factor," a taste of what you're going to see. the outtakes edition. roll it. ♪
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>> very distracting playing with you. >> bit nipply out. nippy out. >> it takes a very secure person to show all the bloopers. >> it's pretty funny. what do you got? >> yes there was a new show on syfy based on "12 monkeys." it has action, time travel, yes, produced by a friend of mine. you should watch it, 9:00 p.m. fridays. on syfy. >> if you're in it, we would watch. >> thank you. there you go. >> and also you're on hannity later tonight. on the o'reilly show. >> and it's an interesting one. >> all right. >> and i'm going to be in for greta tonight. >> i'll watch that for sure. but i've got a question, do the royals live together? >> oh, wow. >> and they're deeply in love. >> deeply? >> set your dvr so you never miss an episode of this craziness. that's it for us.
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"special report," you know it's next. another major obamacare screw-up. and it could keep almost a million of you from getting your tax refund on time. this is "special report." good evening, welcome to washington. it is a mistake so bad the obama administration could not wait until after 5:00 p.m. on a friday to tell you about it. the government said this morning, it sent almost 1 million obamacare subscribers the wrong tax information. that means delays in filing and delays in getting desperately needed tax refunds. obamacare is already providing a much more complicated tax season for millions of americans

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