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lanet fox is responsible for. you guys have been e-mailing on it tonight 8 p.m. hello i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with stacy dash and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." this week rudy giuliani questioned president obama's love for his country and he is not backing down. >> if the president makes a speech and talks about what a great country this is, if the president could complete the following sentence, during the crusades the christians were barbarians and so were the muslims. if the president could say islamic fundamentalest terrorism is our enemy i will applaud the president.
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but until he does that i will have doubt about his emotions, his feelings, his attitudes and the way in which he developed. >> agree or disagree with the mayor? there is no doubt the president has been publically critical of america to the rest of the world. >> there have been times where america has shown arrogance and been dismissive. >> americans are not your enemy. we sometimes make mistakes. we have not been perfect. >> i realize that america's critics will be quick to point out that at times we have failed to live up to our ideals, that america has plenty of problems within its own borders. this is true. >> just before he took office then senator obama said this -- >> we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america. >> so is it fair to question why
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he would want to transform a country that he himself has said he loved? >> to quote reverend wright the chickens have come home to roost. i disagree with rudy in the sense that i do believe the president loves his country but he loves it in a different way. when we see america we see the best thing in the world. when he sees america he sees the world's angry aunt with a shotgun. part of the family but always causing problems. it is not dislike but patronizing superiority. he is saying we can do better he is saying be like me. be like me because i am better. he always wishes that america would reflect his progressive ideology and be more like belgium or something more manageable and less aggressive and less arrogant than that
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angry aunt with the shot gun who is always showing up shooting at kids. he wants us to be likable and nice. that is why he brought up open change. you can't blame giuliani for having suspicion that perhaps he doesn't like us as much as previous presidents. i would stop there. >> let's continue. >> i think it is a good ending. >> giuliani brought up the company that the president has kept. you get a sense in the measure of a person by the people they surround themselves with. the people we grow up with whether professionally or academically can help shape us. i think that is what people are responding to saying the president perhaps has a different view point. he doesn't seem to want to favor american exceptionalism. when you see the people he has been in company with like reverend wright. it does give you pause.
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>> perhaps obama loves america and has a funny way of showing it. if you look at the words he said and the deeds he has taken he said it is not an exceptional nation. after americans were killed he went golfing and to fund raisers. he called half of the country bitter clingers. he didn't like the way the flags were after 9/11. a lot of the people that think the president doesn't like america there is a reason for that and gives ammunition to people. >> you look at these when you brought up reverend wright president obama sat in the front row when this man is preaching saying things like not god bless america but god blank america. take a look at him there. that is why people are upset. you say what are you even condoning and hanging out with someone like this if you love
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america. >> if america were a woman he would have kicked her out of bed by now. it's obvious. he does not love the country in its current state. he said he fundamentally wants to change the country. he overrides his military, his commanders in chief. he will not allow us to be the superpower that we are. he under mines every step of the way. he half steps everything. that's not who we are. to me that shows that he does not love this country. >> let me ask you this. why do you think people are so reluctant to take the president of the united states for his word when he says things like this? >> he doesn't keep his word. he says he is going to do something and doesn't do it. >> juan you are shaking your head. your thoughts have been percolating. >> i am in awe of this kind of celebration of you know, insulting the president of the united states when -- >> no one is insulting him. >> there's nothing wrong with
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being critical. when the left was this kind of critical and demeaning of president bush i called them out and i said you don't talk about the president of the united states in those terms. now here you are talking about -- >> no one is calling -- >> let me finish. >> no one is calling the president any names here. we are doing an analysis of his own words. >> giuliani says the president does not love america. it seems that violates patriotic good sense to talk about our president in that way to the world. it is over the line for liberals when attacking bush. >> how about president obama calling president bush unpatriotic? >> this is divisive and invites racial tension. this seems to me is wrong headed -- >> no one introduced the race card until you just did. >> you brought it up. >> you say -- >> one at a time. >> let me tell you something.
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a minute ago it was said at this table he didn't grow up like the rest of us. if you don't grow up -- i guess i don't know where you are supposed to grow up and be exactly like this to be an american but different is not allowed. >> it doesn't have anything to do with race, juan. i know you have condemned things the right said about the left. i remember a long time ago a few years ago when the obama campaign arm said that romney murdered a woman with cancer. >> we have back and forth -- >> the one at a time. >> the left made a movie glamorizing the assassination of george w. bush. hostage takers during the debt ceiling crisis. >> someone questions the president's patriotism. >> let me make a point that perhaps when he said america he
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meant the actress. >> that is who he kicked out of bed. >> i want to agree with juan on a specific point about how to argue something. when giuliani says something does he confirm or does he convert anyone? there are three groups of people. there are people that agree with you that obama is a terrible president. there are people who don't agree with you who think he is doing a great job of a progressive leader and then people in the middle who are waiting to be convinced as the new election comes up as which direction the country is going, questioning obama's patriotism isn't exactly the right way to convert people. you can be persuasive focusing on his academic background and focusing actions as they pertain to his past beliefs, the people he hung around with or professors that he had. you can get to the same conclusion i believe without saying other things.
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what giuliani says is great for talk television. you don't win converts but only confirm those with your assumptions. >> seems like a divisive call attention to himself more so than a real valid criticism of the president. started the sentence with i know this is going to be a terrible thing to say. >> you know you are in trouble the minute you start down that path. >> addressing a group of people that were probably supporters of rudy. >> he is tailoring a speech and stands by his words. this is a bright man. one thing i don't think anybody doubts whether rudy giuliani loves america. >> i doubt if he loves the president. >> it is what it is. >> he knew he didn't love the president. you never heard rudy giuliani when wall street threatened america's economic foundation
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that these hedge fund guys are greedy and acting in the best interest of themselves not america. >> no problem saying it. this is not >> i don't have a direct response from mr. giuliani's comments. i don't take joy or vindication or satisfaction from that. the only thing i feel is i feel sorry for rudy giuliani. >> you think rudy giuliani has lost it? >> i don't know. >> those kind of hard hitting questions. inappropriate response? >> i don't know. what are you going to do. this is a team sport. what is terrible about this story in a way is when you think about these two people how they
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can work together president obama and rudy giuliani are like a cop team in which one is the nice wimpy cop and the other gets crapped on. it is like l.a. confidential. you put obama out there to appease your adversaries and then giuliani in the back waging war. >> i wish it was possible instead of the games we got something done on immigration on health care. i can go on. >> the media is really in the tank here to act like all outrage and then carry water for this guy. i remember when sarah palin was accused of having something to do with the shooting death of gabby giffords. we had so many insulting things said by the left. biden republicans want to put you guys back in chains.
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>> all of a sudden some exmayor has beef. >> you are minimizing rudy giuliani. i don't know if this is good for your career. >> he is spoken for already. i think he is okay. >> i have to say i am saddened by this president because he had a chance to unite us in such a profound way being the first black president and instead did the exact opposite. i really don't think so. >> he did it or rudy did? >> the president. >> it's now obama. let's blame obama. >> i was thinking about the race thing when you brought up the
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race. >> i didn't bring it up. you have to be raised in a certain way and that is who he is speaking to. >> there are three -- as a leader of the super power of the world you are the commander in chief. so you should be able to unite people of your country that you are leading. >> i think he does. >> are you joking? >> most polarizing president. when it comes to our military i don't think there is any president who expressed himself better than president obama in terms of support of military. >> you couldn't be more wrong. >> greg? >> i think that when you talk about there has always been an issue with the idea of unity. one side said he is unified and others say he is most divisive ever. he is like a high school coach
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who is also a teacher who has athletes in his class that he favors. so the athletes who are in his class can get away with more because he is also their coach. i think that's the problem. >> wait a second who are the people he favors? >> i would say he favors what i would consider minority marginal classes that he thinks do not have power. he will always take the side of the powerless over the powerful. >> i think a lot of people would debate and say wall street is booming and look at the poverty rate in the country. there would be discussion about that. i think when you look at -- >> there we go. so she -- >> middle class is like on nutrisystem. next on "the five" it isn't just hillary's foreign policy legacy that can hurt her.
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marks people with conscience. you can't do that. >> this is what they've been doing for years. we had the whitewater, the cattle futures. we had the secretive chinese money pouring in '96. >> we had a loft money secrets. >> lot of money secrets. therm basically running out of the white house with silverware and furniture. what is it with the clintons with this money grubbing and kind of these ethical boundary violations? >> they're like ban robbers or something. bonnie and clyde. the thrill of it. >> it shows what a hypocrite she is, even more so. i think it's good for us. >> gutfeld, the clinton foundation is $1.6 billion. bill can afford to fly to orgy island himself on his own
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private jet escort. >> i'm not certain that hillary made billion, but all of her pant suits are 100% spotted owl. now when she throws a lamp at bill at tiffany that's good. who knew she was stuff a fan of cap -- such a fan of capitalism? i'm okay with you getting rich. but don't condemn the rest of us for doing the same damn thing or try to do the same damn thing. the progressive left love the rich, as long as those who are rich prevent others from doing the same thing. that's why you have so many left wing billionaires clamping down at everybody else because that makes the left happy. hypocrisy of it all it makes me sick to my stomach. >> somebody bring in the pepcis ac. >> isn't that how government works, juan? people go in there, they get into office. they convince these foreign
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governments for these contracts or multi nationals and then they get a little kickback when they run for reelection. isn't this how the whole system works? >> no. this. you're terrible with the cynicism. i'm thinking rotten that she thinks everybody is else is just blind to this reality. and by the way, they weren't trying to hide it. you can go on the web site and just check it out. they tell you about this money coming in. i think they thought no big deal. it's not okay. that's why it's not about the rich. i mean, i don't know that the rich have such foundations. it's from the democratic side, people are worried about hillary clinton's relationship to wall street all these years that she's too much in the company in support of big corporations and wall street. she was new york senator. this just amplifies -- this is food not just for republicans but for elizabeth warren to say, hey, as a populist, what are we doing with a candidate who in bed with all the big money companies in the united states
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as well as everybody else? >> it's interesting. she's in bed with the companies and bill is in bed with the company. >> thank you very much. still ahead facebook friday. looking for your questions. up next, geraldo takes on the hip-hop community for hurting the black community. is he right? we'll debate. ♪ ♪ automotive innovation starts... right here. with a control pad that can read your handwriting, a wide-screen multimedia center, and a head-up display for enhanced driver focus. all inside a redesigned cabin of unrivaled style and comfort. the 2015 c-class. at the very touchpoint of
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community by promotesing a hip tha >> geraldo rivera made a similar comment earlier this week.ge >> hip-hop has done more damageilar to black and brown people than racism in the last ten years. i love russell simmons.rs. he's a dear friend of mine.ons. at some point those guys have tois cop to the fact that by poi encouraging this distinctive culture that is removed from the main stream, they have encouraged people to be so different from the main stream that they can't participate other than, yoreu know, the racks and the garment center and entry level jobs and i lament it. >> lament it? i tell you what, it makes me>> l cry, geraldo. geraldo, first of all, you're right, brother. you have exactly spoken the truth and put yourself at risk for all those clowns out thereyou who are going to say oh, t geraldo went against hip-hop. so he's not hip and not happening.
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here is what's hip and hip happening. hip-hop culture, you can demean and play to the worst racial stereotypes of the black people ra and say you're celebrating black people. you can makee black men out to be nothing but sexual deviants. you can see about black women that they're nothing but a bunch of hos and bitches and say i'm keeping it real. you're not keeping it real. all you're doing is playing toen young people who are most vulnerable oftentimes coming from broken families. don't have strong role modelsing and instead, they're looking atfami someone like snoop dogg and snoop dogg is talking about can you control your ho and yeah it's all right to slap yourg bipartisan and theyab say, oh, that's what it means to be a real black man? that's what's going on. how about nellie? the people the young black women at steelman college in oo had to say no to nellie when he wanted to come and have a concert.ege why? because he said you know what? take your credit card and swipe it, i won't even go into the details, but threw a part of the
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female anatomy like she's in ata strip club. you tell me that's helping black community? o that's helping blackf culture? stacy, you know what? i'm strong on this one because it infuriates. >> so you disagree with geraldo? >> no. god bless geraldo. >> i disagree with geraldo. i love him, but i disagree. coming from a hip-hop family. my cousin is damon dash. f hero started rockefeller records with jay-z. i know for a fact that this is a way for men to legit mayes their th lives through art and it sells and it makes money and it's m capitalization. capitalizing on what your life has given you. some of the messages, yes, they are very you know not goodssag towards women and family, but some of the messages are about working hard, doing what yousa have to do to achieve. you're looking at all theachi negative. there are a lott of positives and not only poorne kids listen to rap
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music. i know every single one of us here listened to rap. >> i grew up listening to rapever music. i wanted to be black. >> vanilla ice. >> no. >> for two years in middle school, i wanted to be black. i had the starter jack the l.a. kings hat. it was the most embarrassinga. thing of my entire life. >> it's worse now that you justssin told everyone. >> i know. and you know what? i didn't get any tattoos.eve my parents kept me in check. i didn't break any laws or anything like that. then i got out p of that phase and l now iaw work for fox news. of >> now you're in o'reilley's gang. you have ane real hashtag. >> right. but i don't think -- i think it's the symptom.n th >> wait, wait.comm let's go to the man who is an expert on american culture dr. gregoryu! gutfeld. >> i agree with our very clueful person -- not clueless because i feel that the same criticism
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was wielded at sinatra, the rolling stones and punk rockçó and goth and death meddle. you can't dress like a goth and get a job at the apple store. but you got to be smart enough to figure that o. does hip-hop contribute to certainop behaviors? the people who listen to it the most are white people. there are more white people buying it.ñr to juan's point when there is a lifestyle that has some sort of risk that is glorified, there are certain elements of thehe population that don't have the luxury of a safety net. they don't have wealthy parents the whoç can get them into good colleges or power or status. so a white kid can listen to nwa all through college and get a great job.all but a black kid that age may notymeat have the same opportunities and m may end up, i don't know, still listening to that into his 30s and 40s. but it is about rebelling against the norm that's what has always been.ebel >> i'm all for team rebellion and all for jesse wearing
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starter jacket and the hat backwards and having his pantset a hanging down. >> i don't want to see that.. >> i'm cool with jesse, my brother here, mr. jesse black man waters. but i must tell you it's different for that kid thati mu you're talking about. the kid who thinks it's a big deal tow3 go buy the sneakers that, kid is wasting his life -- >> listen. you can't blame music and- artistic expression just like you would blamet a famouse1 artiston j for controversial paintings suggesting violence. the point is you have to have individual choice. okay? yes, there are people who have different opportunities, are h very blessed more thanu! others. but nevertheless it does not mean you can not succeed in life despite some of thef th opportunities you have available. the only issue i have with the music is the violence andy is promoting domestic violence toward women because i saw too many horrific cases working on the cases i handled. that partok bothers me. but i look to the individual. you have to make the choice.
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>> fast and to the point. >> i have been out with her. >> you can stand behind her and worry she is not going to order a mojito. >> do people say you look like ross on friends? >> i say ross on friends looks like me. i ran into him on o'reilly one time and i said do you mind if we get a picture together. he goes sure. i said i bet a lot of guys don't ask you that. >> this is from sandy. how do you feel about your son being republican and do you talk politics? >> yes at the top of our lungs. i think he is a terrific guy. i just on some issues it's hard. >> the thing is i can't throw
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i hate dates. it is a fruit. >> how did you meet her? >> i don't have a date night. >> that is his wedding picture. that is what is so funny. >> we got married at city hall. >> look at him. >> are you on lsd in that picture? >> the guy on the left pixilated. >> he is my best man. we call him blurry. >> you did well. next question from tucker. does it bother you when people say you are wrong for being a black woman republican? >> no it does not. no. >> this is from brittany what is one of your favorite things about bill o'reilly? >> where do i begin? how long do we have? we could be here all day. >> look at them. the two of them together. >> i like his patience.
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very patient man. >> what are you doing? >> i love everything about him. >> that's great. >> where are we? juan, please name your hero and why. this is from beverly. >> a hero. >> and why? >> well, i think greg gutfeld, kimberly guilfoyle, all heroes. >> thurgood marshall. >> i wrote a book. >> the funny thing about it is sometimes the people i think are heroes are not well known to the public but i think they are people of character and virtue. those are the people i look up to. >> randy, why are you so beautiful? no. what is your most favorite comfort food?
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>> how much time do we have? >> a minute. >> i love red beans and rice and miss me. i love chicken wings as you know from our 4th of july. i love bacon steak and potatoes. i love seven layer nacho dip, too. that's a good one and artichoke dips. >> that was interesting. this is to me from rita d. are you an only child? no. i actually have three older sisters. it was great. when you are the youngest boy with three older sisters you get a lot of things that you should never see. >> but then the sleep over factor. >> one of the most amazing experiences ever especially if you are not prepared for it when you are in the awkward stage of puberty and weird creatures
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simmons, is one that you actually like because even though he's evil, he's right. he has this great quote you should all remember this. there are no two words in the english language morev: harmful than good job. especially in an indictment on self-esteem and it's great. "boyhood" was a fantastic achievement. but i would like to seeht "whiplash" win. >> i'm all in on "american sniper." i loved it. the i recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.ç @&c @&c@ it's great tale of this country and it has all the elements to it. it's not just the okay pro-military. it's's about sacrifice. it's about what happens with their families also what th go through to, wh really understand. that's why people love this country, because when you come here and you put it on the line like our men and women do in the a military, you understand that true devotion and passion for our patriotism and this great country. >> if you're going to vegas thishe weekend, put your money on
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"birdman." >> you heard it here first. >> i'm telling you. i don'tf think there is muchther question. the problem that i hear about peoplele talking about "boyhood," which i think is wonderful 'cause i liked the idea ofink watching a kid grow up. but with "birdman," it's such anwith unusual way that they film it. and it speaks to all the egos in hollywood. i know you think it was self-focused. but this terms of "boyhood," the criticism is if you give somebody 12 years, they can make the same movie. >> but it was done first.d ma >> yeah. >> i just want to see "american sniper" win 'cause i want to see the look on michael moore's the face.'s f >> yes! >> that's all i want toall i want to say. >> it would be covered with pie. >> i would like to say who i want to win. "american sniper." >> yes good. i wish we were voting. >> me, too. one more thing is up next. thank you. >> thank you. ♪ huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that.
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it's time now for one more thing. what you got? >> well, fox news goes behind enemy lines to bring you this picture of kim kim jong-un in north korea. what's with the dr. evil sculpted eyebrows? what's with the eraser head here? we don't know! we don't know! . we've got to figure it out. it must mean something. >> oh, my gosh. >> wow. >> goodness.
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>> okay. greg -- >> i'm going to be on o'reilly tonight. the actual show, i might add. and it's -- it's a very special episode. also, i'm banning a phrase, i don't disagree. when you're saying i don't disagree, you save a lot more time if you say, i agree. don't say i don't disagree. >> you were looking at yourself. it was getting weird. as it comes to the royal family, which greg loves, president obama will be hosting prince charles and his wife camilla at the white house on march 19th. so, as you recall, i did also host the royal couple on -- there we go. >> any opportunity you can show that -- >> and the royals. you know how i love them. they're going to visit, the duchess will visit with them in the u.s. march 17th through the
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20th. they'll see the president and this is part of the whole partnership between the uk, our great ally and the u.s. so i just want to let you know that they love great home cooked food and organic and naturally grown, is their favorite. >> no one cares. >> they do. >> it's the way to their hearts. get the white house chef in gear. >> everyone cares besides you. okay. >> so goes all over the world and we cause trouble and we only show you about four minutes each monday. but a lot of stuff we don't show you, there's a reason for that. it's because it embarrasses me. i commit a lot of bloopers and make a lot of mistakes. tonight on the "o'reilly factor," a taste of what you're going to see. the outtakes edition. roll it. ♪
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>> very distracting playing with you. >> bit nipply out. nippy out. >> it takes a very secure person to show all the bloopers. >> it's pretty funny. what do you got? >> yes there was a new show on syfy based on "12 monkeys." it has action, time travel, yes, produced by a friend of mine. you should watch it, 9:00 p.m. fridays. on syfy. >> if you're in it, we would watch. >> thank you. there you go. >> and also you're on hannity later tonight. on the o'reilly show. >> and it's an interesting one. >> all right. >> and i'm going to be in for greta tonight. >> i'll watch that for sure. but i've got a question, do the royals live together? >> oh, wow. >> and they're deeply in love. >> deeply? >> set your dvr so you never miss an episode of this craziness. that's it for us.
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"special report," you know it's next. a possible shakeup in the strategy in afghanistan. hello, everyone. i'm eric shawn and this is inside america's news headquarters. >> i'm arthel neville. topping the news this hour, new defense secretary ashton carter suggesting a change in u.s. strategy may keep our troops in afghanistan longer. the northeast that brutal cold is tragically increased the number of hypothermia deaths across the country. coming up, janis dean will tell us how much longer we can expect this dangerous weather to hang around. plus, a blunt response from egypt over the latest isis atrocity. what they say the world now
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