g about the big, big fight that everyone is saying how did two boxers split a $200 million purse? these guys say very very carefully. hold on to the money because you can lose it fast. 8:00 p.m. fbn. i'm kent brantley along with juan williams, elizabeth francis and greg gutfeld. this is "the five." the largest mall in the country is on high alert after being targeted by terrorists. somali terror group released a new video calling on muslims to carry out attacks on western shopping centers including minnesota's mall of america. the al qaeda linked terrorists were responsible for the death of more than 60 people at a siege in a kenyan mall in 2013. homeland security secretary jay johnson addressed the threat over the weekend.

>> the video that was released by al vhshabaab reveals effective use of video, social media and the internet that had ability to reach into homelands and inspire independent actors to commit acts of violence. i am very concerned about the serious potential threat of independent actors here in the united states. >> so as a country the question is how safe are we in our malls of america? there has been this specific information given but you hear jay johnson saying be careful if you go there. is that a sufficient warning? if he has information should he do more than that? >> if he didn't say anything and something happened he would lose a job. this is a great excuse for men to get out of shopping.

what is interesting is in this response to a threat they are having increased police presence with guns. the security guards that are at the mall of america are not armed. this is a gun-free zone. in order to make this place safer you have to turn a gun-free zone into a gun soaked zone which tells you how stupid it is to have gun free zones. the most dangerous places on earth. if it is possible to increase security temporarily why don't you make that temporary permanent. when times are tough guns are your answer. why don't you make that the answer all the time? you can't have a gun free utopia where we are under constant threat. >> these are targets. you are going to go to a mall not where you are going to get the gun so people feel they can create total chaos here on our economy. >> over the weekend three things happened. isis released two videos.

they also released the video on fighters to warn kurds. boko haram had a 7-year-old girl blow herself up killing herself and five others and then al shabaab the somali terrorist group threatens mall of america. why mall of america? why do they specific target that? because the largest somali population of immigrants reside in minnesota and minneapolis ten miles from mall of america. it's a scary place. they all realize when you target america you really get people's attention. so they are doing kind of the isis game. they are upping isis's game a

little. >> now melissa, while they are doing that and seem to be moving forward with jihad we are still in this pattern of retreat. >> absolutely. i remember when i was in high school going and visiting and you walk through there and you say what was the rest of the world doing? what were they saying at a time that lines of people were being marched into ovens here? now it feels like we are living in a time where we are listening to people rationalize doing the very least they possibly can. you look at the president and what he is saying. for somebody so concerned about his legacy it is amazing that he doesn't realize that right now he is on the wrong side of history because this train is only rolling in one direction and getting uglier by the moment. >> the evidence is. they are gaining ground gaining recruits and gaining cash. what should the administration be doing at this point? >> i think they are doing what they are supposed to be doing. united states has taken the

lead. secondly the social media front which i know invites drigz but that is how they are trying to recruit people just the way eric described competition between boko haram, al shabaab, isis, al qaeda. this competition is not taking place in terms of people going down to the local fire station and recruiting the volunteers to come join their forces. it is going on right there and on the web. and you have to get -- united states has to get in there and be an aggressive presence. you are not going to get -- i will say this let's go back to something greg said. greg said and i think this is right. the administration knows that if something happens they have to have a cover story that says we told you. we were aware of it. we warned the people at the mall. we took steps in order to protect americans and not only that we told americans better do more in terms of your personal

vigilance. if you see something say something. >> should i jump in quickly? you say we are doing a lot of things. you have to tell people to keep your eyes open at the mall of america and every corner. after 9/11 everyone was on guard. there was a big push over the weekend there were 18 air strikes in syria and 7 in iraq. that is 25 in two days. we were doing 2,500 per day at the start of the iraq war. 2,500 per day. 25 in two days. that's not doing everything we possibly can. >> the proportions are way out of field. isis is such a small bed. >> there was an attack on an area just outside of one of the isis strongholds i believe in mosul on friday. they said everyone knows this is an isis stronghold here. if everyone knows it why aren't we leveling it? >> juan seems to be diminishing that this is a different scale

and different proportion. it is really not because isis has more ground. we are not just talking about iraq. we are talking about syria and lebanon. they are gaining ground. i think it is very naive and dangerous from a national security perspective to say this is a small problem. as many as we hit they are gaining more recruits. does everybody see that that is happening? >> that is a question is if we know where the stronghold is why aren't we going in and bombing that specifically? >> we do go in and bomb it specifically. you realize this is not a one sided conversation. they take in people who are civilians. we have to deal with the collateral issues and with territorial issues in terms of sovereignty. we have to deal with the fact that we are going after the leadership in syria. there are all sorts of issues. the fact is isil isn't gaining

ground. what they gain is online by bringing in kids. >> well, you just are helping now to make the case for what we are saying. i want to thank you for that. they are reaching a far greater group. >> we have to fight that. no question. >> it is actually a much more complicated problem than what we were dealing with in iraq. this is not just one focus mission this is much longer and dealing with jihad spreading rapidly and now you have an effort on behalf of multiple terror groups all acting now together. >> i agree with you. i was arguing with eric about more military approach is going to solve the problem. i don't think that is it. >> if you blow out home base then they can't go online and be recruiting more people. also they are worried about

collateral damage. that is probably the real problem that folks aren't talking about. the idea that innocents would be killed at the same time. we have gotten to the point where there are so many innocent people being killed when you say we are going to go in and blow up the headquarters. >> greg give a comment on that and i will switch it up. here is the obama administration. they want us to focus actually they were warning us about the real threat to america and that is brace yourself at home it's right wingers. they are very scary people people that drink tea. where is this coming from? >> can i comment on that? that's -- the dhs was designed after 9/11 to fight. it was islamic terror. like all bureaucracies they become bloated and start spreading it around. because they have a fear of

offense against islam and poisons our efforts to protect ourselves against actual threats by spreading out all of our expertise and all of our men into all of these nonexistent threats. so in a sense they believe that they will be armed lutherans laying siege on a hot topic in a mall. that has to be part of the deal because they don't want to hurt feelings. they don't understand that in order to save the world or save western civilization you will have to hurt a few feelings. i think that's where president obama is wrong. he is worried about hurting the feelings of muslims by linking islam to terror. that is actually insulting to muslims. >> i think you should call it for what it is. gregory, oklahoma city? atlanta? >> how about atlanta? >> you got two over four decades. >> i can go on but my point is

if dhs ignores domestic terrorism then you would say these guys are short sided. >> do you have any examples in the last seven years? >> i won't get into it. >> because you can't. >> typical left wing response. it's not just -- remember oklahoma city that was 20 years ago. the olympic bombing 18, 16 years ago. bring us up to date. give us a recent right wing or christian crusade terrorist attack that happened. >> people i remember a doctor getting shot in his church. >> juan you have to -- if you are going to play by the number you have to play by the number and you have to admit it is an overwhelming amount. >> you can't then say ignore domestic issues. >> are you saying -- >> the guy shot his church.

>> what would you call it? >> a lunatic. >> you sound like obama. i didn't know you were working for obama these days. all of a sudden that is a domestic effort. >> maybe next you will say it is a man made disaster. >> so this is a focus of this administration while the middle east is burning jihad is on the rise they are worried that they want to say from right wing extreme groups that are resulting a bit far dangerous, more dangerous than isis. >> the goal is to fight over semantics. i would say i consider myself a religious person. i go to church every sunday. i'm offended when these people are grouped in with regular muslims because it is a perversion of the faith. but to try to sort your way through all of that is a way. >> even if the president called

it what it was i don't think it would change the way he approaches it because he does not want to go in and take a hard line approach. >> the language is tied directly into that is the problem. we have people that want to have job fairs. that's not how you beat this. >> you know what is funny? est the biggest trouble at malls are teenage malls. if i were al qaeda i would stay away from the mall because you get your butt kicked by kids. the premise is it has nothing to do with terror. it is false. islam is there because it offers the promise of an after life, the promise of the after life makes the present life expendable. the apocalypse is wonderful if you think it is a segue to something else. maybe it is a perversion of a religion but a religion that is

saying your life on here does not matter and the people you kill, the people you kill are going to be up there with you. >> done in the name of religion. >> maybe no atheists in fox holes but very few atheists in death cults. coming up, should calls for wage equality be coming from the millionaires in hollywood? actress patricia arquette thinks so. oh i'm on the cookie air diet. you just... and that's it. i prefer real food fruit, nuts, and whole grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. let's get real.

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♪ everything is awesome ♪ ♪ everything is awesome when you live in a dream ♪ so true. last night was the oscars or as i call it the super bowl for short men. it was typical hollywood, many black presenters, few black nominees. the oscars were as white as the cocaine snorted in the bathroom. patricia arquette won for her role in boyhood. >> to every woman we fought for

everybody else's equal rights. it's our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the united states of america! >> one could point out that single childless women in their 20s earn more than their male counter parts. wage discrimination is illegal but choices that effect pay and life. women live nearly five years longer than men. if this were reversed could you imagine the outcry? we would talk about life disparity and protest against the life ceiling and demand that men die sooner for the sake of equality. if hollywood wants to talk about equality look at their two worlds, one of dramatic concern on the oscars and the other of absurd luxury. their gift bags cost more than

$125,000 each. as the oscars trash america the world outside is going nuts. women are being enslaved by a death cult or stoned to death for adultry. there may be women in syria who would have applauded the oscar's speeches if isis hadn't chopped off their hands for using cell phones. at least neil patrick harris had stones. >> the subject for citizens for edward snowden couldn't be here tonight for some treason. >> call your mom. everybody call your mom, call your dad. if you are lucky enough to call a parent or two alive on this planet, call them. don't text, don't e-mail. call them on the phone. tell them you love them and thank them and listen to them for as long as they want to talk to you.

thank you. thank you mom and dad. >> now, that's a message. >> let's talk about the business. is her what he is saying a legitimate point or all based on the myth? >> the wage equality debate like so many debates drive people bananas because people get emotional and don't want to bother to do the math because that is too much trouble. when you look at the stats about wage inequality it is never talking apples to apples. you are never looking at two employees who have the same experience and the same degree. it is almost impossible. no two people are alike. one thing that does stick out women obtain degrees that lead to lower paying jobs. i was talking to a woman recently who was upset about the salary she was offered as a teacher after she got a graduate degree to teach school.

i said what did they tell you the salary was going to be. she didn't look. that wasn't a factor. men look at salary first i think when they are deciding what they want to do. women don't consider that. a lot of times they make a more emotional decision. if i had a daughter i would tell them think about what this job will pay you and what it costs you to get the degree. >> i'm glad that patricia arquette talked about it. what about the women who have no rights? in america we are doing great. there is always room for improvement. she had a real opportunity there. she will bring up this issue to talk about women persecuted and murdered and the subject of disfiguration, acid on their faces, general mutilation what about that? maybe because she is worried about them hunter her down like they did "charlie hebdo" style. to me it is like a bashing

whether it is white privilege thing. it is always about how bad we are doing in this country or how bad we are failing. that to me you want another statue for that performance you just gave? >> that was quite a performance. >> your monologue points out women live longer than men. men take more risks and die sooner smoking drinking whatever. they take more risks in business. they start businesses at a higher frequency than women and that would account for some of it. there was a study turns out there is a study american association of university of women. they controlled for everything for age for what was your major, what was your occupation and one year out the wage gap, there was still a gap but only 7%. it wasn't 22 or 23 cents.

it's very close. it's a lot closer than they would have you believe. it's shrinking. so things are getting better. >> you are talking about the same thing. this is the same study that we were looking at. they normalize the fact that women were choosing careers that paid less. >> let me interject a quick point which is you are in this business. as i understand it she is upset and a lot of women in hollywood are upset because jennifer lawrence got paid less on american hustle than the male stars. in hollywood women are often paid less. >> she had less experience than the other actors. >> he had a smaller role. >> i don't know about this because i read if you look at -- >> i don't think she was the same box office draw at that moment as bradley cooper. >> i think people like looking at you better than looking at

me. >> really failing in the country now. >> my point is twilight hunger games, all women driven moviest tha are best selling movies these days and women still don't get paid. >> i think jennifer lawrence will get a hell of a deal in the next hunger games. i think she didn't have the same box office bang behind her but now she does. i think you can hold out for the money that you deserve. actresses do that in hollywood. a lot of times the men in that particular film are what they were looking for. >> she had more of a supporting role in that particular film. >> in hunger games? >> in american hustle. >> it was a shame we broke up. now she is huge. hillary clinton's foundation took millions of dollars from foreign governments and her own party is going after her.

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are liberals turning their backs on hillary clinton over her donor problem? last week "wall street journal" reported a clinton foundation accepted millions of dollars in donations from foreign governments raising ethical questions ahead of a potential 2016 run. now allies on the left and media are criticizing her. here is robert gibbs. >> i think there is no doubt that the appearances are awkward at best. i think they are going to have to do something in the very short term to deal with this in a way that puts it off the table. >> the idea that when she came out as secretary of state and loosened restrictions is totally insane. it goes to they have throughout their political careers been obsessed and insecure about money. >> i think she is giving her

opponent a huge amount of fodder that can haunt you later. >> he makes the point they have been doing this forever. this goes back to the days when the clinton's put the bedroom on air b&b. if you didn't get bang for your buck after all of these years the clinton machine has been rolling along people say it didn't do me good. raise your hand if you think when the saudi government gives them millions of dollars that they think that's the best possible way to get mosquito netting or water to africa? do you pleev this is why they are giving money? >> i think they are giving money because they can and want to. it is funny how conservatives give money. they are buying the election. when foreign governments and foreign entities are giving money to hillary clinton they look the other way. i stand up. thank you for doing something like that.

another little tidbit in the clinton foundation hillary clinton is very pro equal opportunity and equal income for women and men. in her 2002 to 2008 career as a senator she paid men 38% more than women in her own senate staff. >> how can they spin this to get out from under the way it looks? >> i don't know how they will spin it. it's morally reprehensible. it is legal. they can accept it. why would you want to be in bed with these people we need to have separation from so we can operate with distinction and seriousness. we are in bed with the saudis and china and in bed with everybody. >> you know what strikes me is the way they can spin it is the clinton global initiative does good work dealing with aids and

other issues. what you have is influence pedaling. people on the left are saying this doesn't smell right. this is going to lead to bleeding. not only will republicans attack it but democrats will go nuts because they think hillary is too close to wall street. it is not just foreign governments but the boeings ges. i don't know that they say we want immediate results. they want access. if she is going to be the president of the united states they want access to the president. >> it is also wall street. when she gives the $300,000 speech i don't know that she is that great of a speaker. >> hillary is the poster child for mask raiding insatiable power. public service for them was the cover charge to get into the club later in life. the area she is in trouble with is not this because this is boring to the american public. money glazes eye balls.

what is interesting is foreign policy which was her job. as secretary of state we are in the worst possible condition in the world. we have so many problems going on. she was the secretary of state. electing her president is like handing the pilot of the hindenburg the good year blimp. why would you do it? >> sadly to the american public this is easier to wrap your head around that she is taking money from the wrong people. we have more from the oscars. awkward interviews. and a sexist red carpet all straight ahead.

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minutes. the oscars were filled with left wing talking points that came directly from the west wing of the white house but antics surrounding the ceremony that had people talking around the office water cooler. check out the awkward moment when dakota johnson gets ticked at her mom for not seeing the film. >> no. >> you don't want to see it? >> maybe one day. >> i don't think i can. >> i don't think so. i think that one day you can see it. i think so. >> she is a really good actress. >> you don't have to see it. >> if she tells me to see it i will see it. >> mom and daughter. >> atta boy. >> i don't know what to tell you. that was very awkward.

they should have been better prepared by some, any. even a volunteer publicest. i like melanie. she is cool. i don't know dakota. >> i thought that it was wonderfully honest and very, very real. melanie griffith now knows what her mother was going through when she was 15 and dating don johnson. by the way did you blame melanie? are you going to watch an erotic movie with your daughter when your daughter is in it. i have three older sisters. when we would watch tv and a commercial for a feminine product came on i had to leave the room. >> the host was working harder than j lo's dress. she was trying everything she could to get an answer out of them. >> i think it would be awkward to watch your kids in a sex movie. >> melanie can show her a few

tricks. she is pretty spicy. >> another awkward moment reese rither spoon offended that people keep asking her about her dress and not her position on global warming. reese witherspoon sees it as sexist. >> it is a movement to say we are more than just our dresses. the dresses are beautiful. we love the artists that make these clothes. this is a group of women, 44 nominees this year that are women and we are so happy to be here and talk about the work that we have done. it's hard being a woman in hollywood or any industry. it's exciting for me to get to talk to other nominees about the hard work they did. >> it's so hard seeing. >> first of all, i think more women get interviewed on the red carpet than men because they are more interesting to look at. it is not about what they are being asked. say more when they say who made

the dress but i made the choice to be in this film. turn the answer to what you want to say. it's not on the interviewer to ask the proper question. say what you want to say. >> they need prepared lines. >> what you want to say. >> i wonder in buffalo bill from silence of the lambs walking in there and they go what are you wearing? >> why is this sexist? if someone has a genuine curiosity in your apparel because it is attractive and meant to be attractive and you are wearing it because it is beautiful why is that sexist? how dare you ask me what i am wearing? we are in a wimpy culture where language is considered acts of violence. >> that's the whole industry. there is a fashion industry that puts those dresses -- you talk about the bags they get for

125,000 or whatever. we are allowed to talk about the dresses and the reason the designer gets the dresses is so america can see it and then go buy it. they don't want to advertise. >> who makes your tie? i love your tie. >> ralph lauren. >> post oscar fun with people so desperate to be on tv they agree with anything asked of them. check this out. >> what did you think of the controversial moment at the beginning of boyhood when they killed the boy right off the bat? >> pretty emotional. it was a good movie. >> how do you think angelina jolie did as rosa parks in selma. was that powerful? >> definitely. >> what did you think about the beautiful moment in the theory of everything when eddie redmayne got up out of the wheelchair and punched albert

einstein in the face? >> i wish i could have been there to see that in real life. >> that can't be real. >> those people are that crazy. that's how wacko people are. they asked somebody what did you think of judith as larry bird in "birdman." >> i think it is setup. the audio is different when she is talking. >> the other thing is that we live in a pretty hypocritical world where we enjoy insulting the public and making fun of how stupid they are. if you make a joke about the celebrity during the oscars you have the same public coming after you saying how dare you make fun ofa rrkrquette. i am going to defend her. the public are not going to the movies. they are not going anymore. that can be evidence that they

don't know what is out there because tickets are so expensive. >> everybody saw "american sniper" and not any of the others. >> if you look in the background how is that the oscars? is that true? >> i'm going to agree. >> i think it was fake. they said they went down the street to do it and got regular people to do it. it is so ridiculous. >> remember jay leno jaywalking. >> they interview lots of people to get what they want. next up our buddy juan williams thinks clarence thomas is the most influential thinker when it comes to race in america even more so than president obama.

♪ a great opportunity to celebrate the person i believe to be the single most influential thinker on racial issues today, supreme court justice clarence thomas. conservatives love him, liberals loathe him but supreme court

opinions prove one thing he is an equal rights advocate for all people and opened new roads for american political debate on racial justice at a time when our country really needs it. i wrote a book on marshall. here comes the second african-american justice on the court. he says it has to be about equal rights for all. let's have equal rights for all, no discrimination against anybody. that's the way we go. what do you think? >> i thought you wrote a fantastic piece in the "wall street journal" and pointed out racial discrimination is never benign. there could be no doubt that the discrimination injures those denied because of their race. if i said that out loud as my opinion i would get crucified. you are not allowed to say

things like that. >> the thing is his one opponent would be president obama. president obama can't say a word about race otherwise folks at this table would say he is being a black president. the debate is being created by clarence thomas in terms of contracts. he is the guy in this generation that is shaping racial opinions. >> and al sharpton. >> i heard it. >> president obama doesn't talk about race? >> he is not pushing a race wedge through the american public? >> if i had a son he would be like trayvon martin. he has eric holder as his attorney general who could be the most divisive of all time. is race are race relations in america better now than the day president obama was sworn in?

>> i think most people are more conscious of it. the fact is race relations are better than when my dad was alive. >> the point in your column i thought was important is the champions of diversity are driven by a secret assumption of black inferiority. they think blacks cannot handle the same challenges or standards that whites do. i think that is more destructive than hip hop is that assumption. i can hear while you were talking the sounds of white liberal heads exploding because we have to remember thou clarence thomas was abuse. the left want to know how the right learned to be vicious. we learned it from you the way they treated clarence thomas. that is how the modern right learned. >> let's go to the lawyer. >> i greatly admire justice thomas. i think he is incredible and very humble.

he is rarely heard from. his spoken word is powerful. he is an example of everything that is right about this country just like with ben carson. they both came from limited opportunity. they believe in equality of opportunity and not of result. if you are born here you are miles ahead of everybody else. work hard to determination and self focus and discipline you can accomplish anything. he doesn't want to limit people by the color of their skin. why aren't more people embracing this notion? >> i think the critics car cuture him but he is there and making a difference. "one more thing" up right now. stay with us.

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>> i am down in the dumps. it's too cold for me. you know what they say about politicians in washington you know it is cold when they are walking around with hands in their own pockets. what are we going to do to get out of the blues? the cherry blossoms are coming to washington pretty soon. it could be late march or early april. and so i'm saying to you it's a beautiful town. you would love it. this is a way for me to send my heart to all of the viewers and say think of spring. >> very sweet and sunny. >> what do you got? >> apple topped three quarters of a trillion dollars today. disney charging $100 for a day at the park and this lady won $188 million. single mother of four. >> it was the right numbers. i was like we made it. i scared my kids because i was jumping up and down.

i'm still processing it. it's not hit me yet but i'm still processing it. anything my kids ask for i can actually get it for them. >> are you going to tell them no, though? >> yes. >> very cute. i love it. my turn. so i don't know if any of you guys know this but i know this guy before you guys knew this guy, he was already the man. they used to say to me why is the price of natural gas going down i would say because eric is selling it. they said why don't you put this guy on television? i was the first person to put you on television so you can love me if you love him and blame me if you hate him. i don't know if people out there know the street cred you had and you had a successful tremendous career. >> check out this new song on

itunes called "hearts i leave behind" featuring winona judd. 100% of the proceeds go to the chris kyle foundation. "special report" -- this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. one more step tonight into high stakes game of political chicken over homeland security funding. the senate has failed to advance a bill to fund the agency and overturn president obama's executive action on immigration. chief congressional correspondent is on capitol hill with the breaking news tonight. >> the vote is still open but there are already 44 noes and so the democratic filibuster of a house dhs funding bill continues. time is running short. >> democrats say they want the ability to amend dhs funding