don't forget gretawire.com and join the talk on open thread. a lot going on on gretawire. dhekd checked it out lately? do so. see you tomorrow night. tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye"oes using watermelon make your slip and slide safer? new evidence shows why you were doing it wrong all these years. and does the president believe two plus two equals five? >> i will not emphasize it again, it does not. >> and why you should never steal the front seat of a car if an elephant calls shotgun. the advice you didn't know you would need, next. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> i'm joanne nosuchunsky filling in for greg gutfeld who is off doing thoughtful charity, would. and now let's welcome our guest. she is hotter than bikram yoga on the surface of the sun. i am here with jill dobson. >> thank you, joanne.

>> you're welcome. and if you were hoping he wasn't here either, you are out of luck. it is tv's andy levey. and when it comes to comedy there is highbrow and low brow and god those brows are huge! it is actor and comedian and writer kurt medzger. and he has more bank than the nile. next to me, lou daabs. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> they want us to be uh -- afraid to shop at fashion bug. the somali group called for attacks on the mall of america and malls in canada and britten it. homeland security secretary jay johnson called for increased vigilance. >> i would say if anyone is planing to go to the mall of

america they have to be careful. as the statement you read indicates there will be enhanced security there that will be apparent. >> meanwhile on friday the state department's blog i love their recipes unveiled a new logo that came out of last week's summit to counter violent extremism. it said the solution begins in your community. thank you for injoing us tonight. thank you for joining us tonight. terrorists know fear is one of the most effective weapons. what should we do? >> i guess listen to jay johnson. all of the folks going to the mall of america doing what he said which is to be vigilant and be careful. i just have a vision of folks kind of creeping around the mall kind of looking for suspicious characters. i don't know what in the world he was thenging. by the way they had to retract much of that saying everything was cool at the mall.

but it is really not. >> would you still go knowing there is a threat? >> no. i refuse to spend money under threat terrorism. >> that's the only way we can fight them. >> that's right. fight them. >> we know you love malls especially the pretzel stand because who doesn't? should we arm these mall cops to the teeth? >> i thought they were armed. i played at a comedy club at the mall. you know it is the highest suicide rate and i don't know who counts this, but they have the highest suicide rate of any mall sod -- sad to say it is a good jumping mall. >> i hope that wasn't one of your jokes. >> if the show didn't go i didn't want. it. >> so this mall is a gun free

zone, jill. should we be worried about the targets are to the terrorists? no one has guns there? they can do what they will? i am not sure you don't want the terrorists in there but i doubt they are having a metal detector. so there is not a lot they can do. the terrorists are trying to scare us and they know we love to shop. what we really love is to eat. what they need to do is stop with all of the shopping balogna and take away our actual balogna. >> that would hurt certainly. >> andy, you never leave your apartment. so until the terrorists call for attacks on your apartment you should be safe right? >> even then i won't leave. >> really? >> i don't want to go anywhere else. they don't have a credible plan to do this. i am calling for more rolls in

movies. they don't have much success. there aren't people who go from minneapolis to somalia to fight with them. they haven't had that much success recruiting their own in minneapolis. the most is outside of somalia. they are there to escape the whole nonsense. it is not like they are rushing back to that. >> the whole point and they thought we didn't realize that the mall of america is a gun free zone. >> they can't bring them in. it is a paper threat and they have nothing to back it up with. first of all -- >> by the way, thank you for costing us our mall of america sponsorship. >> it is not bad enough i have to be scared of rowdy teens at the mall and now i have to worry about terrorists too? >> is it a bomb free mall? do we know that.

>> let's talk about the state department graphic. can we show that again? >> all of those colors and words. is this too wordy lou? did someone stop to actually read all of that? >> not by the state department standards. you heard the old expression think global, but act local. they can attach that to the terrorism theme. they instruct us that terrorism will begin in our community. how reassuring is that and the endless circle. it doesn't give you a feeling of progression. >> and it reminds me of the diagrams you do in school and they caused me anxiety. >> they had all of the words on the outside and i was trying to make an acro anymore out of it -- acronym.

already the whole thing sucks and there is no good acronym. it is like the patriot. it is an acronym. >> you had a summit where you had the best and most brilliant minds. >> if they were taking the terrorist threat seriously we would have a new acronym. >> that's one of the metrics. >> three days against violent extreme -- extremism and they were too cowardly to recommend -- >> they are in minnesota somewhere. >> the reality is they call for empathy. they wanted diversity training and sensitivity training. today they are talking about getting out of the mall because they will get bombed.

>> bringing it back together i know jobs has come up a lot in the community right? ways to combat there. the root causes in this area, leak you said there is a large saw polly population. there have been a handful that have been radicalize eds -- radicalized and are the lone wolf. there are lots of jobs in the mall of america. not the solution. >> the stupidest thing is they say poverty and feeling marginal liesed. it has nothing to do with terrorists. most terrorists are from wealthy families. i used to be a jehovah's witness which was strict. when somebody is a religious fundamental list, they don't care about being marginal liesed. we want to be marginal liesed. we were proud of it. we didn't want your dirty

money. so they are attacking the wrong angle. it should be spying snitching and droning that's the pyramid of tighting terror. there is nothing else. >> i think we exhausted this topic. moving on, it was the oscars on sunday night. the check oscars that is with the czech republic. a surprise guest, jim carrey. >> jim carrey-o. [applause]. >> that was amazing. organizers have been told the real carrie was in the area and wanted to attend, but

sadly he was an imposter who somehow made it on to the live broadcast before the ruse was discovered. in the other oscars "birdman" won for best film and best director prompting the controversial joke. >> the oscar goes to -- who gave this son of a bitch his green card? "birdman." >> many on twitter were offended as they should have been, kurt. the director defended his friend sean penn saying the jock was hilarious. -- the joke was hilarious. that's all that happened at the american oscars. my favorite part was lady gaga's incredible tribute to "the sound of music." that's awful. that was the wrong tape. i'm sorry, gaga, awful. kurt, you are a huge fan of

the czech republic oscars. what were the high points and low pontes? >> not seeing real jim carrey. i am a big fan of the show. when the pendulum swings the other way with the over sensitivity to joke, and it will, it will not be because a comedian is protesting, it will be because they eat their own. sean penn is as lefty as you can imagine. at some point they will get sick of that and go back to being regular people. >> there are a lot of politics in show business. i think we have tape of patricia arquette. >> it is our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the united states of america. >> lou thoughts?

>> it is exciting everybody will make what patricia arquette makes. that was the implied promise. >> it is great the embrace of capitalism. i haven't heard that from her before. it was a bril yept evening. liberating. >> yes, let's all burn our bras. >> you were at a nice oscar party. i saw some pictures and i wasn't invited. it is okay because you would have said no. >> i hosted a great oscar party. you were invited to this one. did you keep the invitation i gave to you. >> when marlon brando at the 1993 oscars wanted to make a political statement he declined his oscar.

he had someone else go up and make a comment. >> he had her go on in his place. >> she says thank you for the oscar and i want to make a statement. no, no. either take the oscar and smile and talk about your pretty dress or make a political statement. don't take the oscar. make that choice. >> a lot of oscars went to "birdman," andy. you saw almost all of the films. i haven't seen it because i know how to pick em. were you surprised by anything? >> i was surprised "birdman" won original screenplay. i think everything else went according to what everyone would thought would happen. i thought it was interesting. they discovered it was not the real jim carrey because that guy's kids were vaccinated. >> how you can tell, i am not sure. >> the thing is you have the

sean penn thing and the patricia arquette who when i went to bed was a feminist hero and then when i woke up everyone on the left was mad at her. between that and the sean penn stuff and people are mad at graham whatever for writing "the imitation game" and gave the speech about how he had felt weird and depressed as a kid and wanted people to stay weird. now people on the left are mad forgiving the speech because he is a straight guy. i am not even kidding. where we are headed if the winners are are smart they will thank who they have to thank and they will say something nice and get off the stage. i think that's fine. >> i also think if celebrities are smart they won't bring their mothers on the red carpet. i believe we have an interview with melanie griffith and her daughter. >> dakota johnson. >> "50 shades of grey" has done so well at the box office. it feels like everybody has seen it.

have you? >> no. no. >> do you have say? >> you don't want to see it? >> maybe one day. >> i don't think i can. i think it would be strange. >> i don't think so. i think it is fine. one day you can see it. >> and i will tell you until you see it she is really good. >> there are those scenes where she is a really -- >> she is a really good actress. i don't need to see that to know how good she is. >> all right. you don't have to see it. i'm like you can see it and you're like no. >> it makes me so happy. you have done interviewing before red carpet stuff and what would you have done in that situation if you were with mother and daughter. >> it played out perfectly. she did a nice job with the interview. she gave us a moment reenjoyed on the red carpet more than any other moment. these people work in hollywood. melanie griffith has been

around awhile. they don't know any editors that can come over and cut a version that does not show dakota naked and say mom here are the scenes where i am dressed. you can see my movie and cut through -- or they don't have a fast-forward button? mom close your eyes for a minute. there are ways around it. >> do you think she was a big fan of the book and it just ruined the book for her with her daughter the main -- >> good point. >> there were a lot of sex toys in the gift baskets the expensive gift baskets. >> i heard. >> it was mostly vibrators like the really pricey ones. i know. i was with my girl in a sex shop pricing them. i said we have to hold off. >> you foe those companies are so happy that "50 shades of grey" came out because they are like, yes, we get to capitalize on this kinky, i don't know, off shoot of hollywood. >> that's the weakest porn there is, "50 shades of

grey." >> speaking of weak porn john travolta appeared with adena manziel. >> you you my darling my beautiful, my wicked -- wickedly tallent led adena manziel. is that right? >> and then he went on to explain why he messed up her name in the first place. >> as i got back stable i ran into goldie hawn. she is charizmatic and sexy and beautiful and has the amazing thing and i was starstruck. i am starstruck hugging and loving her up and forget i have to do this bit. >> is that his excuse? he found a woman toosexy? >> and goldie hawn. she has an air about her. do you accept his apology? >> no. he is hollywood's version of joe biden. it is a constant touching.

of all of the excuses you will give john travolta i don't think being attracted to a woman is one that most people are going to go oh i totally buy that. >> what do you mean? i still have visions of him from "grease" and" staying alive." >> he was distracted by sebastian come better batch. >> did you see that photo? >> his brother sebastian? >> who is sebastian? >> his name is sebastian? >> it is benedict? this is why we need the entertainment. >> he was distracted by a woman. >> both pictures. >> we willed dit all of that -- we will edit all of that in. lou, we saw the show here. do we think some of the glamour of hollywood is gone? do you want to see more of that? >> the glamour of hollywood? no i like the hot mess that it has become.

the fact you had all of these people who can call themselves entertainers and then take three and a half hours and bore you to death. what is so compelling about it? by the way the movies for the most part sucked. guy that's why they don't like good jokes on the show. nobody wants to hear joke when's they want to get a [bleep]. they got dressed up nice. >> i will have to take your word for that. coming up, "red eye"'s booster club to get greg a booster seat. first, michelle obama wants you to move. screw her. i like my apartment.

michelle obama's let's move campaign turns five this month and to celebrate the wild success in maybinging everyone healthy, the first lady made a video. amazingly she somehow got the president of the united states to make a cameo. >> we are going to celebrate all of the tremendous progress we have made. >> have you seen my blue tack? what is going on in here? >> well, we are celebrating a big anniversary. >> oh, what -- what exactly are we celebrating? >> it has been five years since we launched let's move. >> let's move. that's exactly what i was going to say we were celebrating. >> wait. i feel like there has to be a hash tag. is there a hash tag? >> for starters i will ask folks across the country to give me five. i want kids, parents and maybe you and a few celebrities to give me five ways to be healthy. they can eat five new veggies or do five jumping jacks or

push ups and work five healthy habits into their daily routine. >> well even i have time for that. >> so we got the message and we got the hash tag. how about we end with a great joke. >> and by the way your tie is right there on the ground. >> well that's halfway to a push up. >> wow. how fat is america that the program is just called let's move. would you mind just moving america? are you tired? >> what will you be doing to celebrate the five years? >> i have never seen a first lady program that i cared about in anyway. it is no worse than just say no. just say no is the high water mark of stupid -- >> isn't it sexist? >> no. it is no worse than seeing

nancy regan on "different strokes" to tell arnold that smoking a joint will kill you jie. this is the last time you will be on the show. while we were playing these clips we were yelling you go girl. i didn't realize you were such a fan of michelle obama. >> especially -- never mind. >> the idea that let's move and they go to # gimmefive. it is extraordinary and it has something to do with social media, i get that. but there never seems to be an impact here. >> are you saying 140 characters is not enough for a meaningful change in society? >> i argue for many politicians it is an excess. >> do you have any idea how it could be more effective? would you give words of advice to the first lady? >> have i to say one thing about h this video. only 36 tour days until the -- 364 days until the next

academy awards and we have some contenders. >> that would be a short, right? >> it is a good mess sen. she is out there promoting it and talking to kids. i would be more excited about doing jumping jacks if i had the first lady talking to my second grade class about it. >> good effort and hope it plays off. >> let's get them healthy. >> go ahead and defend your hero michelle obama. >> president obama typical man. she is trying to get work done and he comes stumbling in, honey, where is my tie? it is like a bad sitcom. i mean let the woman -- let her lean in. >> they are like lucy and desi , right? >> kind of like that. i kind of agree with what jill and what kurt said. i don't see what is wrong with preaching that people should be in better shape. i don't want government

mandates involved. but this is the kind of thing first ladies do. it is innocuous and it is effective. i don't see what is harmed by having a campaign tell people that being healthy is a good thing as long as the government isn't mandating that people have to be healthy. >> i have a few issues with this video. first of all why on earth would a tie be on the floor like in the middle of a room? >> he parties. >> have you not seen 50 shades ? >> i haven't seen it, but i did read the book. and it wasn't there in my mind. that's not the picture i had for myself. and # gimmefive, are we promoting poor grammar and strange language to those who have to pass the common core test? >> i don't think kennedy would have approved of such language. she wouldn't have approved of the whole fashion image.

i credit eisenhower for my early personal fitness now many years later and would have bought into this. she was enthusiastic. >> and enthusiasm is good. i caught on and i decided i would give her five or i will give myself five glasses of wine. >> excellent. >> heart health. >> that's like twice as healthy. you are supposed to have two. >> oh there is a limit? >> coming up, does eating less meat help the environment or does it just make you sound pre pretentious? first a word from our sponsor. >> tonight's sponsor is one eye dave's laser eye surgery. get a new less dimensional look on life.

can reducing girth protect the earth? americans should cut back on meat to fight climate change. it is the subject of tonight's a federal advisory committee wants the government to recommend eating more fruits and vegetables because the plant-based foods have less of

an impact. as the washington times reports, if the fed's new dietary guidelines includes the recommendation it would be the first time the environmental factors were considered in the guideline that is supposed to be about health, eating and nutrition. anyway, is eating only vegetables that healthy? here is a man who hasn't eaten meat in 25 years. he looks amazing. so great. it is about damn time. am i right? >> well, do they mean just all meat or just -- i thought beef was the one that all of the cow farts are heating up the planet. do they mean every meat or just beef? >> apparently it is the energy used to kill them maybe? >> what is the word?

>> when i go to the west coast where you can't have plastic bags at a store if you go to seattle or portland and they give me the stupid paper, i don't drive. that means my footprint is a lot smaller and i get to eat meat and all of the plastic bags i want. i more than made up for it. >> okay then, go to seattle. >> what is more important to you, environmental sustainability or a huge bacon cheese burger. >> don't put me on the spot like that. >> it is a tough choice. what is interesting is they have been accused of over stepping their bounds by having a panel of nutritionists weighing in on the environmental concerns. it kind of reminds me i think at least two people at this table have a pageant background. >> three. >> maybe a football player judging the pageant. dude i am not on the sidelines wearing black and white calling off sides. >> or am i?

>> it is like having nutritionists reporting on what to eat. >> which is what a lot of meat farmers -- is that what they are called? have been saying. is this an attack on big meat? >> i think it is more of an attack on good sense but it is appropriate you come to me with that question. the reality is they are looking for more plants. plants suck up the co two and spew oxygen. i don't think it is a long-term solution. i may be wrong. >> wouldn't a better solution be instead of bringing this to the consumer starting where it starts with the farmers and the producers and making sure they are following certain codes? >> no. >> i honestly didn't know what the answer to your question was so i picked one.

>> a 50/50 chance. >> as always i agree with the president of the meat institute who pointed out that he was quoted in the story -- he points out that the committee was supposed issue dietary guidelines this is why it is called the dietary guidelines committee and not the prevention guidelines committee. i would also like to point out this committee is recommending peel drink coffee. coffee contains caffeine which is a dangerously addictive drug, joanne. >> easy, mitt romney. >> shame on this committee for recommending that americans consume seriously dangerously addictive drugs. >> you are only saying this because you don't drink coffee. you don't care if you have it or thought. >> 4 lousy cups, what could it hurt? >> four lousy cups. >> i will continue eating meat until my personal doctor tells

me not to and not the government. am i right jill? >> give me a high five. >> should kids pick a career path by 6th grade? i say no, but bureaucrats say yes. officials in about half of the states in the country are considering new education strategies that would ask 11 and 12-year-olds to choose a professional employment path. the kids would be assigned course work to help them reach their goals. advocates for the program say the design to get kids excited for the wonderful world of work. . >> is that their words? >> they said wonderful world of work. >> at 11 years old, what did you want to be when you grew up? >> you know what, i honestly don't remember. but i think this program is great. i would take it a step further. they all should be given tests to determine where their skills lie.

and after they take the tests they should be taken away from their parents and sent to a school or some kind of academy with the other kids who have the same skills whatever the skill is they are locked into for life. obviously the ones with the lesser skills the manual laborers would be at the bottom and they have to wear gray clothing. at the top are the sociologists and the tv personalities. all of those people would be at the top of society's order. this country would be a lot better. >> i think you should give more thought to that. >> i think they should make nike's. >> is that then the scary thing if we are doing this? will the kids start to work at an earlier age? >> you know, i think this may be the solution here to so many of society's ills. i want to compliment the obama administration for coming up with it.

it sounds like a vague copycat circumstance of the soviet era. it dent work out so well for them but under our enlightened leadership having kids choose vocations and have a curriculum decided for them and jobs decided and told what to eat, how much stress could there be in life? and then you could organize i suppose either relationships or if you want to be traditional go to marriage, for example. that won't be many people. >> it could be a social nirvana. >> honest to god because it sounds like a stupid program as most of these are. but when i was like 11 or 12 what they did was push -- you had to thepg about college, college, college. they made it out like that was the end game of your life. something that makes kids at that anal think the end game is i will have to support myself. that is kind of positive to me. everybody has to worry about getting into a good school. some of these kids are thought meant to go to college.

>> what did you want to be when you grew up? >> i wanted to be a dinosaur hunter. >> what do you want to be now? >> now, i don't want to work. that was the goal. >> isn't that the point? >> all i knew was when i was in 6th grade i wanted to meet joey mac intire. did i grow up and become a journalist and interview new kids on the block? i think some 6th graders know where they are going in life. >> john bolton said this the last time. he said we should abolish guidance counselors which is the best idea i ever heard. that's the big thing. never mind this program. i think guidance counselors in general are the most useless -- >> can i give a shoutout to mom, the guidance counselor. >> quit your job. >> do you think you are too old to be a ninja dinosaur hunter? >> you are never too old.

>> sometimes if you do something as a hobby you enjoy it. if your job was being a ninja dinosaur hunter. >> a lot of people think i would be the ninja hunting dinosaurs. >> right. >> it is a little more specialized of a field. >> suddenly i am thinking of mrs. obama and her campaign. >> we'll move on to a break. muscular men when we come back. first, coming up tomorrow on ken kennedy. >> hi, guys, on the next "kennedy, the one and only sherrod small. we will see you on a little place i like to call the fox bees network. the fox business network.

should you have you void dates -- should you avoid dates with guys who lift weights? a study revealed that more muscles mean more masogany. it came out in 2012, but -- >> it is news to us. >> hunky men were more likely to have sexist beliefs than their scrany -- scrawney counter parts. we believe they are more leakily to endorse traditional stereo types of masculine tee.

they claim that in societies where the patriarcky is being challenged by being as manly as possible. sounds like science to me. what do you think of the study? an apology for those women who are used to just pushing around scrany fellas -- scrawnyfellas. >> what about guys who look like anyone liam niesen has ever killed in a movie. is that manly enough? >> you are getting there. it is about attitude. and the attitude about the women to assert yourself to have some physical presence that is not malable. it is somehow anti-femme anymore is wrong.

>> are fit women bad girlfriends because they won't stay at home and cook? >> there are a lot of questions being bandied about. i think we should all watch jersey shore and realize a juice head gorilla -- they were nice guys. they weren't getting in fights and treating women badly, right? you have to watch the show a little more. >> i recent the idea i need to work out to be a bad boyfriend. i'm doing fine. >> what about the fat and scrawney guys? >> they didn't do a study of fat and scrawney guys. knuckle draggers drag their knuckles and that was it. they didn't do a survey of fat guys and skinny guys it could very well be the same numbers. >> as a muscle man are you uh febded by this -- are you offended by this study?

>> not in the least and here is why. the study's author says we think men who hold the quality are more likely for stare yow types of masculine tee. the study doesn't prove that. they are projecting their belief to their results. they have no evidence to back that up. it was a survey of 300 dudes. i think quite frankly the people who did this survey should be put in jail. maybe that's going -- i know it is being too easy on them. i think they should be at the very least lock -- locked up for life. >> okay. but then it is their locked up. you are right. we really should. i think so. i think an easier solution as well, we should all just stop dating. why kid ourselves? we will all be alone.

>> i believe in an arranged mairnl. >> that's where we are headed or relationships or -- never mind. >> coming up kanye west takes you to heaven. and do you have video of animals? you can send them to us, fox news.com/red eye.

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works. e block. last story. that's the last story. >> rapper, fashion designer and wall flower, kanye west is adding video developer to his resume. during an interview with power 105.1 they revealed that the game will be based on his song "only one" a tribute to his late mother. >> i am working on a video game for "only one." the idea is it is my mother going through the gates of heaven. you have to bring her to the highest gates of heaven by holding her to the light. we have been working on it for six months. >> no word yet on when the

game will be released, but it sounds like it will be out of this world. lou, you are the only one taking this seriously obviously as the businessman you are do you feel this is a good idea? will this make a lot of money for kanye? >> i think it is because he already has his money. i have no idea how this works. i have no -- i don't know kanye west, but i would like -- >> you know everyone. >> i would love to see some sort of schematic to come up with this. >> jill, you know hollywood. you know kanye is pleard to kim. >> khloe kardashian. >> no kim. >> just kidding. >> she has a video game. what if his game is not as successful? will this cause marital problems? >> the strive, can you imagine? will it play out on reality tv? here is what i wonder. there are all of these ultra violent games like grand theft

auto. who thought it would be kanye west steering it away from grand theft auto? >> he has done everything else gaming. i don't understand the premise of the game. why should she need your help when he is christ himself? when she gets to heaven does she see god's throne and it is kanye. >> you love video games and you love kanye west. so this has to be a dream come true for you. >> i -- he is 100% gene -- genius. this is unbelievable that he now has everyone talking and by everyone i mean us on the show about a video game where you literally have to get his mom through the gates -- it is like flappy bird but it is

his mom. he is 100% a genius. >> i wonder two things, will there be a stairway to heaven? >> no you hold it up to the light. >> and what if you don't get her there? >> game over and she is in hell? >> then it turns into a game of limbo. is that what it is called? >> it gives you a lot of replay value because you will not want poor kanye's mom to not be in heaven. >> and then there will be a money thing. you have to buy to get more angel life. messengers. i don't read the bible enough. >> kim's game, she was making like 800 billion a day with that game for awhile. at this point they are geniuses. there is no doubt about it. it doesn't matter what anybody

thinks. >> thanks andy and kurt and lou daabs that does it for me. i'm joanne nosuchunsky. i'll see you next time.

breaking tonight america's top homeland security official questioned about playing politics at the expense of our safety. after issuing an explicit terror warning to american shoppers shortly before accusing congress of putting people at risk. good evening and welcome to "the kelly file." i'm shannon bream in for kelly tonight. al shabaab releasing a video calling on followers to attack american malls including minnesota's famous mall of the americas. considering this is the group that once launched a deadly assault on a mall in kenya killing dozen of people. homeland security secretary jeh johnson seemed to be taking this threat very seriously. here he is yesterday. >> if anyone