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ended. as great as the police is, in every attack, they show up afterwards. then whether paris or australia, they factor casualties were going in. you want to be part of that math? research shows felons avoid armed targets. even media matters wouldn't put a gun free sticker on their office window. and for every tv hack missing these notions done from a secured perch. they should thank the second amendment for protecting the first. their com play answerplacency civility that makes you think mass kers complaint happen here depends on the armed american who makes those threats costly. gun-free zones remove that. so as we witness a new emerging savagery, why not cherish our well armed independence, why not have our enemies think they're not the only craziesreligion and guns.

if you can't beat them, shoot them. welcome back. >> thank you. >> you were away for a couple days. you grew up on a ranch. ranches have guns. you shot anything that moves that's what i heard. >> for fun. >> there is a police department in the mall which is good. but there were also guns at fort hoard and police officers that show up later. how do you feel about the idea of concealed permits being in public places? >> i think that i'm for the police being armed at the mall at the very least. conceal carry, i can see being for it. i don't personally have one obviously because i love in new york city, but that's a personal thing for me. i don't even know if i would have one anywhere else. but i just realize i labeled myself as a gun free zone and i think i have to have a sticker that says i have a gun. >> you carry a squirt gun filled with very hot tea.

all right. juan, i know what you're already going to say. do americans need to arm themselves in the face of new terror or is this nra-fueled paranoia? >> hot tea in your eye paranoia. the reality is there have always been bad guys out there. i think the mall has to go back and say that there was high school interpretation of the concealed carrying law in minute men because they were telling people at the door don't bring your guns apand patientsly people are allowed to do that. but my point is you and i are not coming up against isis over here on 6th avenue. what we come up -- >> you never know. >> i think it's now half of most of the killings in this country are done by families. and another third are people involved with drug deals and robberies. so there was story in the paper today about a guy who was a policeman out in white plains, he shot both daughters and then killed himself. so it's like that is what goes on with guns. that's why i think it's --

>> can i jump in? >> first i want to point out that you are suffering from ocean privilege because you live over here, not over there will. >> you started the comment with the reality is. and you spewed nothing but in fact there is no reality this anything you said. >> kind of mean. >> that's all right. >> pew research, over the last 20 year, gun ownership has peaked right now at its highest level in 22 years at 47% of households have a gun. at the same -- over that same period of time pew and the bureau of federal bureau of statistics says violent crimes including murder have plummeted 49%. violent crimes nonmurder, but with guns, have plummeted 75%. so as we arm ourselves in america, our violent crime rate is plummeting therefore the reality is more guns means a safer america. >> that's flawed logic.

you think a different society you don't think anything but guns is the reason for that? >> but this is what is called a hate fact. a fact that you hate. but there is a lot of research looking at specific gun roll laws and they find that permits are the only way that -- or that are correlated to reduced crime. >> you regulate it you have it identified, you know who has what guns where and you have certain standards and practices. >> and there is a great article coming out in the "chicago sun-times" that talks about how people like elliott roger, who was a street killer, he actively looked at santa barbara where there was a place where there weren't any guns. he worried about being shot. so that's what terrorists do. >> of course. so that's why they go to places that they think are soft targets. whether movie theaters or

schools or even a college like virginia tech. these are the cases that jump out from the headlines. look, this is a right that americans have. people have to deal with it, but responsibly. how about response gun ownership. guns aren't the ones taking the lives. it's the people deciding to pull trigger. so make sure you know who has the gurpns, do proper background checks, but don't blame guns. who has the gun, who makes the choice. yes, gang members, terrorists we don't want them to have guns but now you're telling me the problem is the law abiding citizenship shouldn't have it? that's the did diskekts. >> this is tony cornish.

>> the situation at mall of america is completely ridiculous. if we're threatened with an attack of any type the last thing you ever want to do is disarm citizens. basically they're making a killing zone. if i were a terrorist, first place that i would look to go to inflict harm or mass casualties would be a place where people were unarmed. >> i don't believe that the government wants to take away guns. i think the point here that advertising a gun-free zone is the most idiotic thing to do. even if it is gun-free lie. >> that's why i shouldn't have said i don't have a weapon. i think people -- criminals or terrorists, i understand the point about the family juan. and i do think that is a concern of a separate issue. a big area where there are a lot of -- there is a lot of t of innocent

people could be send traited this one area, exercising their right of capitalism at the mall. that's why these type of targets should be protected. of course we should advertise that they're protected. i'd rather say that that ben not. >> even when the mall is saying something else, it endangers the consumers there. >> inevitably the one reason why there will not be a jihad on american soil is because of 300 million firearms in america. >> the begintwin towers some. >> i didn't say there won't be attacks. but jihad won't happen because no terrorist organization is stupid enough to take down america when we have the second amendment. >> it makes no sense. i sometimes come up --

>> he's saying line anke an armed jihad. >> you look back at other periods of unrest. the police and military, they have the most weapons. they're the ones that have the guns. >> actually they don't. americans have the most weapons. >> you want to know who is armed, visit your u.s. military. >> thank goodness. >> i'm all for it. i think that the police and the military should have guns. but you're say oh, no every citizen. it's better if all of us on the five oig had a gun. >> i applaud that. >> no, no no. you know why, because then i get shot first. i don't think that makes sense that everybody in the mall has a gun. let the police protect us. >> this is not ap etsn either/or. concealed permit creates a level of uncertainty on the people that are choose aning an attack. there is an extra variable that is unknown.

a uniformed list officerpolice officer, you wait until the uniform leaves. but i don't know it if juan williams is armed. >> about the lying part, yeah, got to lie.t if juan williams is armed. >> about the lying part, yeah, got to lie. if juan williams is armed. >> about the lying part, yeah, got to lie.if juan williams is armed. >> about the lying part, yeah, got to lie. on my old house, massive sign, beware of dog, and my dog is like this. >> always beware of dog. >> but that's what people do, armed by adt security, all of that. >> i have a gun permit right on high my window. >> are you really saying at sandy hook, all the kids should have guns? >> no. you're saying that. >> that's ridiculous. ft. hood -- >> i don't recall saying that. that's a left wing thing of putting words in people's mouths. >> i don't have to put words in your mouth. make you a cogent argument for

guns everywhere and now you're saying i didn't say that. >> i didn't say give guns to children. >> who wants to attack a school? you said if they have guns that's less likely a target. >> you got me, i said babies should have guns. i said it here, america. it's an infantry. when they're in the womb, get them guns. coming up, new fears for christians in the middle east after nearly 100 were abducted by the islamic state in syria.

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under constant attack from islamic extremists. isis has purportedly abducted 90 christians. matt van dyke runs a security company providing three military training to local iraqi forces. he warns christians in iraq

could face extinction at the hands of islamic terror. >> a lot have been driven from their hopes, tens of thousands, revfugees have been displaced. christianity in iraq is really uncertain. they face possible extinction from iraq really. if they can't demonstrate that they can provide their own security, iraq's rich christian heritage might be lost forever. >> i think this is a huge concern. it should be internationally. is this not just the united states of america problem. is this a problem this is a problem the pope is aware of. i'll ask you, juan, your thoughts on this. are he's cristthese christians in peril? >> no question about it. you would hope people would pay attention to the fact christians are being targeted. the danger is you get into a holy warscenario.

i think what you want to do is you have an international coalition. stay away from religious wars. i thinks reason the larger conversation with president obama why he won't call it islamic has to do with not wanting to suggest to muslims that we're at war with them. but this is a moment where you have to be straight. the pope -- christians were slaughtered. you don't have to be christian. i think everybody here is. but that to me punishing someone for their religious matter of conscience belief, nothing lower. >> and you watched that video. >> i did. the 21 christian egyptians that were be headed owing. but what is going on now that is different from nazi germany? nothing.owing.

but what is going on now that is different from nazi germany? nothing. >> how far todo we let it go? >> this is not the holocaust. >> not yet, but as it spreads, does it become more religious based? i hope not. i hope we realize these are evil people doing bad things. and again, step up the air campaign. you know where they are. just start killing bad guys. it's time. >> will this be enough to get the attention of the world to unite people to say enough is enough? >> i don't know. i honestly -- i'm down on the world. p where there is anarchy, there is suffering. i don't see a lot of people thinking let's find these people and stop them. i don't think you have to just bomb them. you have to find them first. we lasu the aid worker, the person who goes to syria or iraq

to help. we don't laud the mercenary. and i know that sounds crazy, but the fact is if america is no longer willing to get down there and kill these people what left are the freelancers. the foreign legion. people who are technically aid workers but their aid is a machine gun and what they do is eradicate evil. on bill maher's real time they were talking about the jews leaving to go to israel and he said jews should be nicer to their neighbor. as if jews are shooting up muslim restaurants. which is -- and that's the kind of mentality that is what we're living with. what i would call ocean privilege. in america, it's just so far away. >> well that wasn't super uplifting. >> let me talk about this guy matt van dyke. so this is somebody who just

looking at his demeanor on television, he is passionate, he has a lot of heart. and he is calm and he is being thoughtful and he is trying to get the attention of the world because he was saying, okay, fine the pope says something and we say we're concerned, but who is doing something. i worry about his safety and the people that are working with him because the potential for being kidnapped is real. but he at least is doing something. and i think that having passion and heart and being willing to go over and to help innocent people is something important. on the issue of the air campaign campaign, i'd be for more air power if we were sure we wouldn't target innocent people. isis is the kind of terrorist that hides amongst the innocent people. i think what we need, i'm not at the pentagon, but i think we're going to he saidepdnd up at a place where we have more special forces on the ground to help target that

air power appropriately. president obama feels like the administration thinks that we either to what we're doing now, which is not enough, or we send in 150,000 ground troops.o what we're doing now, which is not enough, or we send in 150,000 ground troops.do what we're doing now, which is not enough, or we send in 150,000 ground troops. as if there is nothing in between. >> i met him on fox and friends. very interesting story. he put himself in harm's way, really trying to make a difference, not just sit and talk about it. >> you have to honor that, but i'm saying the way he is doing it puts himself at risk and could in-flame the situation. my final point on this is don't forget, most of these horrific terrorist characters are killing muslims. and i don't understand why the muslim world doesn't stand up and say we got to go do something. yes, they're killing christians and it personally personally heardurts me, but most of the time they're killing muslims.

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this morning senate put the keystone pipeline legislation on president obama's desk and just hours later, he vetoed it. really boring statement by him. senator mcconnell said the vote to override the veto will come before march 3 and it be looks like, eric they are just a few votes ss shy of that. they could maybe get there.

the american people have said they would like to have it pipeline for the future of the country. >> american people are in favor of it. there is bipartisan support this both chambers of condition. it will create thousands of jobs. it will drive -- first of all in terms of d.c., it will create hundreds of billions of dollars of tax revenue. all that oil is taxed as it's sold and economic activity surrounds it. what in the god's name is wrong with just saying we'll do it? there is no down side. environmental concerns have been rebuffed by his own state department. there is nothing other than president obama hat tipping the environmental lobbyists that don't want to have it for some stupid reason. >> what is the reason? >> politics. it's religion without morality. there is no logic.

like watching two refridge trart rate tors play chess. one question i would ask president obama, what is safer than a pipe lean in delivering anything? do you want sue allegeewage from your white house toilet for be transferred by model train? if you're okay with indoor plumbing, you should be okay with a pipeline. we just saw an explosion and i guess in athat has something to do with bomobama donor's as we go. >> what would you do to try to convince the four senators that are holdouts? >> i'd dance for them. is that what you were looking for? >> low bar. >> sorry, but i think it would work. here's the deal.

i think you have to get individual with those people. if it was the four of you i know exactly what i would do to offer each one of you. right right? like you would know what to do with me. very easy, chocolate with salt on top. done deal. but honestly, you have to give a personalized approach. it won't be just one way to do it. you have to embolden them to do what is right. show them this is the right thing to do, vote your con shups instead of being a political puppet for the president. from >> and politically if you're one of those four, you could get what your copnstituents have said what they wanted, why wouldn't you? doesn't that give you more credit at back home? >> no. i think for senate democrats -- >> i walked you right down the road.

>> you look at democrats right now, it takes 13 democrats to go to the other side. >> they're short four. >> that's your thought. we don't know for sure. but you have a situation where democrats are trying to hold together on a minority block and it requires people breaking away. that's difficult to say to your teammate i'm leaving. but the argument of more jobs is a weak art. >> say that to the person who doesn't have one. >> if jobs are being produced by our economy, it's not because of that public for two years you'll put your environment at risk. >> whatever it is, 15,000, 500

jobs, if you don't do it, you don't get those jobs. you don't get the revenue. and the best part of this the best part of this canadians don't want to kill us. arab countries that we're buying oil from want to kill us. >> can i to thedo the second topic? because for the fourth time, senate democrats have rejected lenlgs legislation that would have funded dhs through september. but this morning senator mitch mcconnell proposed a separate bill to stop the president's immigration action and as a result democratic senator joe man chipchin says republicans will have his vote. >> i've said we should not fool with homeland security. it should be a clean bill. we shouldn't send the signal that we can't get by securing

our nation without having it attached with conditions. so i've said to my republican friends give us a vote on a clean homeland security bill. i will support the actions as basically on a bill that would prevent the president from his executive actions. i would support and vote with him on that. you about we needb him on that. you about we needbut we need a clean vote. >> to me that was leadership and in doing so, they were able to get a democrat from west virginia to say they would have his vote. >> you can tell me who make it a derts dirty bill? >> the republicans. but you could say it was president obama's fault for making it an executive action. >> so dems are laying bridge and republicans are playing tick tack toe. you knew you would have to pull it apart.tack toe. you knew you would have to pull it apart. and interesting, all essential

personnel remain, 13 #% are considered nonessential. so taxpayers are paying for 30,000 unessential jobs. what kind of business employs 13% of their workforce being november essential nonessential? >> government. >> do you like the whied that there is common sense breaking out in washington shall? >> i do. we want people in there that are true to their words and will get stuff done. we don't want the same old loop. and i like joe manchin. he's a man who stands on principles. he didn't just mail it in. juan, do you like him? >> i like joe manchin personally very much. >> it would force red state democrats to have a vote on a separate bill just about the president's executive order.

do you think that is giving them heartburn? >> no but i think it's better. you know who has heartburn is mitch mcconnell. it's what greg was saying. the poor guy, he's trying -- he said republicans are going to show that we can govern. we'll make this paralyzed senate work. and instead you get eaten up by fellow republicans in the house who -- you youtalk about a political bill. this is pure politics. >> why do you deal sorry for him? he found a solution. >> he hasn't found a solution. manchin is one guy. he won't get -- >> he was the first of many. >> there your perspective. i don't see it. he's debtsperate. if he doesn't get a bill, republicans will get -- >> he hasn't responsibility. i don't think that he's worried

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rubio, rapped paul rand paul and others all scheduled to speak. what are we hoping to hear? you spend time with people on the hill. what is the feeling this year? >> i got a chance to talk to a lot of different people take their temperature. when i asked them about 2016, every one had a different perspective and different answer. so in that way covering this election i think is really fun. and i think an event like cpac helps you -- enhelps a candidate focus the mind. i'd like to see a big agenda vision. i think that has been lacking. and i think if you have a chance, i have an op-ed up introducing the new chairman of the american conservative movement. >> and one thing they want to do this year, they have a theme

back to the future where they're tryering to get people more actively involved. so this year not only will people speak, but there will be q&a after. that changes the game a little bit. >> i don't know. i'm less interested in seeing how candidatesact among the like minded, the people that clap for their agenda. it's not enough. if you look at the success of president obama, he was 100% progressive. but he was also charming and strategic and we must admit that, so you need the criterion for a republican. republican winner can to the just be conservative or you could just elect cries teen owekras teen christine o'donnell. >> do you think that person has emerged? >> if there were somebody that i have to check that person out, i don't think so. maybe scott walker because he

seems like he's got some, you know -- >> i'd agree. i think scott walker has a lot of wind in his sails. they may want to see some of his conservative creds. some of the issues. jeb has some serious issues with -- shall type of conservatives will have a problem with him and q&a may pose a bit of a problem. see how he handles it. may handle it great. rand paul expected to win. he won last year the straw poll. who has the most to gain and the most to lose. >> i think that scott walker is definitely up and coming but if you're asking who the strong hold is right now it's jeb bush. i think he's being very proactive proactive. strong people on national security, foreign policy, he was very successful can governor in florida. and i think that will count. he has managerial experience. he understands the economy.

i think he's in a good position. >> mike huckabee said he's going to skip cpac this year. misa? >> yeah, obviously his base is evangelical. and this is a media convention. reporters coming from all around. sean hannity will be there. >> what? >> yes. so this is lollapalooza for conservative conservatives. >> that's depressing. >> scott walker had a great showing in iowa. will he be the star of the show? but you also have an opportunity to jeb bush to a on all the issues with the base. but i would like to know if the republicans will say oh, evolution. i don't know.

>> boehner and mcconnell won't join the conference this year. should they? >> not if you're -- the focus is 2016 and people getting excited about who they might want to support. neither boehner nor mcconnell are planning to run for president which i think is a good thing. i has the most to gain is marco rub i don't. he's been able to hold his own getting some media attention here and there. but if he does really well at cpac, that could help him a lot. >> all right. coming up daidvid axelrod taking major shots at hillary clinton. find out why coming up.

former obama adviser david axelrod has been making the rounds promoting his new book. he has also used the opportunity to take some not so subtle shots at fellow democrat hillary clinton on her likely 2016

presidential run. >> i'm waiting to see what she says and does because it's not just about her. it's about this country. and where she wants to lead is important. this is not a contest of arguments. it's about ideas. so let's hear her ideas. >> and he went on to say that hillary supporters might actually hurt her campaign. >> it doesn't tell you what you're ready for what? people are so eager for her to be there that they started this organization and it isn't her campaign. they're not articulating a vision that a candidate would articulate and yet there is a consult of prn ality tipersonality growing up and today's dangerous. >> in the book, axelrod writes

back in '06, he was saying hillary clinton is not a healing figure. so you have to think if i'm a republican, i'm reading axelrod's book and here's the way to axelrod would have thrown virgins into a volcano for obama. that was a bona fide religion. they were crazy for him. you want to talk about vague? how vague is hope and change. you can't go more vague than that. >> they had some serious war going on in 2006. >> that war is still going on. >> it's never going away. >> he makes a very good point. all of these scandals hillary clinton, white water, the cattle futures. somehow made $200,000 in cattle. travel gate benghazi, foreign

dollars. it goes on and on but she is still teflon. >> so the interesting question is here the dynamic. do you get obama's folks trying to undermine hillary? people who are with her from the start like you were talking about, people like axelrod robert gibbs will be on tv. are they going to be there all the time? little things. remember last year when she said the thing about the obama foreign policy don't do stupid things? she was mocking? axelrod had to try to clean that up. >> you know what is going on here. the obama people do not want the clinton's in the white house. there is no love lost between these camps. president obama is not going to go away. he will think he is president and will be very vocal and around and involved and still want to exert influence in the party. he is not going to be respectful and gracious like president bush

was. he will be in the forefront. >> even when it came to selecting her secretary of state people like axelrod who actually like hillary clinton but said how can she be loyal given we ran such a tough campaign? >> i think what we are seeing is david axelrod has a new book and he has a new job. his job now is not just to protect president obama's legacy or tear down hillary clinton he is an analyst. i would listen to him because it was axelrod that designed a campaign that beat her in 2008. i think if i were those guys on the hillary clinton campaign that they should read his book and think about it and take it very seriously. >> good advice by ms. dana perino. "one more thing" coming up next.

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and haven't had a phone. >> you got everything done and then dropped it? this is a fox news alert i'm bret baier in washington president obama has vetoed a bill from congress to authorize construction of the keystone pipeline. move comes despite the state department's conclusion that it would have no adverse effect on the environment. chief correspondent james rosen is with the latest. >> this is the third veto president obama issued across his six years in office but the first since republicans regained control of the senate. in a brief written message to the senate president obama said he was vetoing the keystone legislation on procedural ground