not my most recent. one of my favorites. where is it? uh-oh. i'm getting to it. here it is. new year's eve. with my son. celebrating. hey, have a great day. i'm gretchen. here's shep. what does isis really want? what does isis really want? hear this -- the islamic state is no mere collection of psychopaths. is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. that's the headline of a lengthy detailed and enlightening article in the march edition of "the atlantic." the author will be our guest, where we will focus on the big picture of the islamic state. here's an overview from the isis perspective as detailed in this "atlantic article ". isis wants a world where god's law is observed, a purified world. that means vast swaths of people

must be killed. others enslaved. lands must be taken, a caliphate established where. they must move to the land of the caliph. the army and infyiyinfydels will be drawn to the battlefields where there will be a bloody war and the end of the world will be initiated. this will happen. this must happen. the army of the islamic state hopes to be a part of it, an integ integral part. graham wood, author of the article in "the atlantic." he lays out what isis wants and how they plan to get and gives thought to what might work to stop it and what tactics would certainly make it more powerful. he writes, much of what the group does looks nonsensical expect in the light of a sincere, carefully considered commitment to returning civilization to a seventh

century legal environment. and ultimately, bringing about the apocalypse. graham wood has sat face-to-face with isis recruiters and supporters. for this article he spoke to professors and scholars from islam, from around the world, to find out exactly how this group is linked to religion. he lived and wrote in the middle east for several years. graham wood attended universities including harvard and american university in cairo. he now lectures in political science at yale university. and, again wrote the article "the atlantic" article which is our guide this afternoon. graham wood joins us live from yale. thank you. thank you for the article. >> you're welcome. >> let's start at the beginning. how did this group start? >> they started at an offshoot of al qaeda. so in 2006, i would say. they've existed in different forms, but they have really purified their doctrine and at the middle of last year they declared a caliphate, which they consider not just an important

stage of the evolution of their group but world historical important event that will lead to the end of days. >> and essential to leading to that end because the most recent caliphate wasn't a real caliphate, they believe. the most recent cal faltiphate was about 1,000 years ago. to understand them, we have to look to this. you write the reality is the islamic state is islamic, very islamic. you go on, yes it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the middle east and europe. but the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretation of islam. you go on to explain that the sort of shariah law that's instituted in saudi arabia isn't real because they don't do all that you have to do. >> yeah, that's right. and this is a very important point. they reject almost all of what islam has become in the last

1,000 years or so. that includes having an interpretation of shariah law that even the very literalist clerics and kings of saudi arabia would reject. almost all muslims alive today and probably almost all muslims in history would reject what the islamic state is doing. but they do look back to the texts of early islam. they're very selective in the way they do it. they interpret it in a way almost all muslims reject but they're absolutely muslims in the sense those are the traditions they look to when they justify themselves, when they explain themselves to other. when they think about what to do next they're looking to those traditions. so, i would liken them to, say, the branch da vividvidians or other unpopular christian sects. those are christian sects and? a sense the islamic state is an islamic state. >> all faithful must go to the

caliph. what is the draw and how are they getting them there? >> the people who support the islamic state believe that islam is not just a faith. it's also a political system. and they believe that you can't even really be a muslim in the fullest sense unless you're living under that system and are giving allegiance to a caliph. they think there are huge sections of what islam consists of. in the absence of a caliph for at least the last 90 years just didn't exist. now they have the opportunity to do that. that's how they're enticing people. that's how they're exciting people getting them to leave comfortable exists in places like birmingham, england, and emigrate. they have utopian future under islam in a full sense of its practice. >> you write, and i'm quoting here, pretending that it isn't actually a religious milinarian group with theology that must be understood to be combatted has

already led the united states to underestimate and back foolish schemes to counter it. we'll need to get acquainted with the islamic state's intellectual genealogy if we are to react in a way that will not strengthen it but self-immolate it in its own zeal. some things we've done wrong. for instance? >> we treat it identical to al qaeda. although they both trace their lineage to osama bin laden there are big differences between the group. al qaeda has been trying to fly planes into new york, attack the west. where islamic state's focus is on muslims who live near it. that's what they to want do more than anything else is purify the land contiguous with the islamic state, mostly killing sunnis. you have a group rather than being one that's reaching across oceans to kill americans although they will certainly try to do that, i promise you, they are really focusing on killing

muslims nearby. that's something al qaeda actually rejected. and even someone as extreme as bin laden's successor. >> zawarhi, told them to chill out, you're not doing anything to help the cause. treating them the same misunderstands the motivations they're offering to their supporters, especially the people in the west. >> yet you write some can be enslaved, some must have their hands cut off some must be killed in a public square. >> that's right. for them this is nonnegotiable. the punishment for theft is amputation of the hand. punishment for leaving the faith is death. and slavery, not only do they support slavery and practice slavery, but they do so openly and proudly. they say that if you question the existence of this practice of slavery you're questioning the correctness of the koran,

which mentions slavery and doesn't say you shouldn't do it. so, they think that if you do that even if you're a muslim, then you essentially left the faith and you have to die. but, yes, they're practicing slavery, they're practicing the amputation of hands, beheading crucifixion, and they're doing it openly and proudly. >> you write as well about christians and how some christians can live. >> yes. so in some ways to be a christian under the islamic state is better than being a shia, certainly, because the options that are available to you are not merely execution. you can also live in this subgig a. ted state and pay a tax and the islamic state they claim, will protect you. you can't build a new church but you'll be protected and have full rights under the law. >> i thought had you to convert. >> you don't have to convert, no. can you be a jew. can you be a christian. you can't be a pagan living under those circumstances.

ideally, of course, they would like you to convert, but under islamic law, as they interpret it, you can live as a christian or a jew. >> this is not to say that all of the leaders follow this faith so closely. it's been well documented that so many former baathists, as we've described here used to drink and smoke and have all kinds of relationships with women around saddam hussein. those people are in the mix, too. how do we justify that? >> yeah. so the way the islamic state has expanded, especially in iraq, has been to move into towns in anbar province, mostly sunni province, and given the men -- given the people there an option. you either join our side if you're sunni or you die. so, it's an easy call. of course, you're going to have lots of people who are ex-baathists, who are -- who make the same choice that anyone would make if a group rolled into his town. there's also baathists at the very highest of the organization. they have indoctrination, they

are taught how to be muslims in the proper way of the islamic state. that doesn't change. the way the state projects itself and the way it promises a future to recruits, especially overseas, is by saying that it's a thoroughly islamic state. they say baathists are welcome to join and they'll have to sign up for our religious program as well. >> so, what is the plan? it's not as if they're hiding the plan from us. remember, he writes about how he used to talk -- hear from osama bin laden. you'll know our plan when you see it in the newspapers. this group is very specific about its plan. and it goes to the koran to give us information. it is very much interested in a town called davic in syria. >> yeah, that's right. >> which leads us to our next section. read this. the islamic state awaits the army of rome whose defeat is at dabiq, syria, and will initiate the countdown of apomcalypse.

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back to our discussion on isis and the information from an article in this month's -- in the march edition of "atlantic" magazine. if we could put that up on the screen. this has been our guide for this "what isis really wants," and graeme wood is the author. one thing that they've let us know, the islamic state, is that they want us in there. i told you before we went to the commercial break about this town called dabiq in syria. this is the spot where the first gruesome video came forward. we have pictures to show you i'm led to believe, of an american who was there and was beheaded, peter cassic you may remember. while they were there, this quote, full screen, the man who killed him, the guy who was holding the machete or whatever, said here we are, burying the first american crusader in dabiq, eagerly awaiting for the remainder of your armies to arrive. those were the words of the masked executioner here.

they want us in there and badly, don't they? >> absolutely. you know, the whole narrative is that there's going to be a fight between good and evil. so, they think we're evil. they think we are going to have our armies face off against theirs at dabiq and that our armies are going to lose. but, you know, to offer that as a possibility they need to have us showing up. so they're trying to goad us into arriving in the islamic state and giving them the confirmation of us versus them narrative they've been selling. >> they need that narrative. and they've talked about it's not as if the us are not there at the moment. the us are there. in full screen seven you'll see november think he wrote. after reported having seen american soldiers in the battle, islamic state twitter accounts erupted in spasms of pleasure. like overenthusiastic hosts upon arrival of the first guests at a party. this was a great recruiting tool for them, was it not? >> well you know, there weren't actually americans who were on

the front lines fighting them there. they were employed at advisers deployed as advisers to the iraqi army. so, so far we have deprived them of that propaganda device of showing americans fighting the islamic state. and we've used instead proxies of kurds, mostly muslim kurds, and also iraqi army soldiers. i think we've done a pretty good job so far of just making that a fond wish of theirs and not a reality yet. >> the hope i believe among many have been when they saw these brutal pictures of the beheading, that many around the world of the muslim faith would say, we cannot be a part of this. this is a bastardization of our religion but on social media they're reminded it's occurred by the modern muslim world, that this is the real deal. >> yeah, that is the line the islamic state keeps on pumping out. is saying that the jordanian monarchy is not a muslim government. they really want the muslim

population of the world to be polarized. they don't wanted people to have moderate reactions to this video. they want them to be either incensed or overjoyed by it. they want to make sure -- they talk about burning the middle ground so moderate muslims have to choside. they're confident, i don't think rightly so, that the choice they'll make is for the islamic state. almost all of them have rejected it it. >> graeme wood, contributing editor for "the atlantic." stay with us because we'll talk in a moment about what we need to be doing to stop this. that's laid out in this article as well. as it so happens, the commissioner of the new york police department, bill bratton, is reporting. feds say they busted one man at jfk as he tried to board a flight to join the islamic state. commissioner bratton speaking now. listen live. >> to fly to syria. along with the international

airport, jfk international airport, as he was ready to board that flight, a second individual had a later flight scheduled. he was arrested at home here in brooklyn. a third individual who we believe helped to organize and finance the trip for the other two individuals was arrested in jacksonville, florida by fbi agents and is being detained in jacksonville. so, the initial actions were to go to syria and attempt to join isil in syria. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: he talks about how he couldn't do that. how serious a threat was that? >> well, we treat that very seriously, as alleged in the filing. the idea that it was made quite plain based on the statements that if they were not able to go, that they would seek to acquire weapons here, handguns, machine guns, and seek to attack

very specifically police officers. so that the -- those aspirations were made quite clear by their own statements. >> reporter: did they indicate -- two of them were -- do we know how long they have been in the country? >> i can't speak to that. anybody here know the specific time? i can't give you that at this particular point in time. [ inaudible ] >> legal permanent residents of new york and the third individual in florida was a -- was here legally and then overstayed. >> reporter: for the person in florida is being indicted in florida, it's indicated in the indictment that he used to live here in brooklyn as well? >> she's asking permanent

residency. >> all three of them resided in brooklyn, yes. two of them were uz bechlt ki citizens and two were kazakhstan. two were legal aliens here. [ inaudible ] >> the way it worked out. we were concentrating on the individual leaving new york city on his way out to syria. >> reporter: because we've seen so much in the last couple of weeks -- last couple of days, actually, about homeland security and about the possibility of it being cut off on friday, your concerns about that in light of what we see happening today. >> well as we previously stated, i think yesterday, we made some comments that with all that's going on in washington at the moment, the debate about withholding fubd funding for homeland security, this is not the time to engage in activities

that would threaten our counterterrorism capabilities, such as have been exhibited in the movement on this case. and effectively to hold our counterterrorism agencies hostage to political fascinations in d.c. i think this case reinforces that contention on our part. this is not the time to be engaging in political rhetoric, political grandstanding. >> reporter: there's been so much talk lately about what's happening in the middle east would eventually come to our soil. is that what we're seeing here today? >> most certainly. that we have talked about this over an extensive period of time. i think our recommendations, when john miller and i came in in january of 2014 and took on our new positions, that -- at that time was principally that of al qaeda and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula was charged with the commission of carrying out attacks against the united states. but quickly and within a very short period of time after our

appointment, the emergence of isis or isil as it's known, became very quickly apparent as we've clearly seen with the events in syria that they were now a new significant addition to the terrorism threat. and that their capabilities, while this past year have been limited primarily to the mideast, their ability through their social media propaganda skills to inspire those, inspire those as these individuals were inspired to travel to syria to fight, but those who can't travel, don't have the resources, they encouraged in their most recent outreach efforts in december i think john, and -- >> november and december. >> september and november encouraging attacks wherever you lived, whether it's here in the united states, europe, if you can't get a gun, you can't make a bomb, get a knife. and we saw a sample of that i think, the attack on our police officers.

that individual, as when we did the backtracking on his computer activity, among the 150-some odd different sites that he was visiting, were some of those that were controlled by isis or isil. this is the concern about the lone wolf inspired to act without going to the mideast or the concern once they get to the mideast acquire fighting skills capabilities and then attempting to return to the country. >> reporter: is this the first time you know of, that you've seen isis or isil in new york city trying to make their way over to syria? >> this is an ongoing investigation and is among a number of investigations that we're engaged in. so, i won't -- so, this is the first public example of that, that would be correct. >> reporter: commissioner, perhaps major rodriguez the complaint specifies confidential informant meaning one of the suspects in a mosque.

can you tell us where that mosque was? in the community -- >> by way of an example, this is today's example, one from right here in new york city who had made a decision to go try to join the islamic state in syria, about to fly out to syria, according to the reporting there of the new york police department. stopped him and did so because they said if they didn't and locked him up, that they had plans to be a lone wolf, as instructed by the islamic state. if you can't get here they sent out a notice a while back, then go ahead and just kill people where you are, including police officers. graeme wood again with us contributing editor at "the atlantic" who spoke to scholars "what isis really wants." this is textbook, they asked for it according to the reporting of the police department at least, that's what they were getting. >> exactly. it's important to note where they caught them. sounds like they were at the airport. they were trying to get over there. maybe they were planning to come back eventually. but this is very typical. they were ordered to go to the islamic state.

as you say, if you can't, then run over an infidel with your car, devastate their crops, hit them over the head with with a rock. this is what they were saying. these people evidently thought they could make it. there are so many ways to commit atrocities here on american soil if you're already here. i think it's a good sign they were trying to get over there. most likely they were going over there to die because that's usually what fighters are intending to do to achieve martyrdom in the islamic state. >> in our remaining time i want to talk about how this came all together in this way and then after that what we need to be doing now. first of all, you write that we just sort of missed it. by we i mean the entire rest of the world, that when this vacuum was created in the aftermath of iraq and the chaos of syria and beyond, as they were filling this void, we didn't get it. is that fair? >> yeah i think that's right. i think there was such -- such

relief of having left iraq even though we had to leave it in shambles, that we weren't paying really close attention as a society to what was going on over there. and if we had we would have seen all the signs that this group was a milinary cult that was creating a caliphate and that was getting more dangerous by the day. so yeah, our inattention, i think, was really unfortunate. >> and then the movement was bolstered and the numbers grew as they were chopping off the heads of infidels and making nice with them over social media explaining, this is the way to the kingdom of heaven in american parlance. >> yeah, that's right. that's how they grew. and i should point out, those infidels, by the way, were muslims. these were people who they -- the islamic state considered non-muslims. by any other standard, they would be called muslims. >> it has been said this is a holy war.

to display it or to categoryize it or to make name of it in such a way is counterproductive, right? >> well, they consider it a holy war. personally, i do not. and i think that we should avoid making the name holy war stick by doing what they want us to do, which is follow their script and have a fight between a crusader west and the islamic state. we should certainly resist them but we can do that in wiser ways. >> it seems almost inevitable at some point there's going to be another american or a series of americans or a canadian or someone whom they're going to trot out and the fevered pitch of the american discourse is going to become such that the voices of the extreme will say we must go in we must go in now, we must go fight them. we must defeat them. because that's exactly what they want. and you write that it appears the best of the awful alternatives, the best of the awful military strategies, is

the one we're employing now? >> yeah pretty much. i mean, they tried very hard with the trotting out those americans one by one and killing them in the most gruesome atrocious way possible, to get us to go over there. they've run out of americans at this point. and i think what we can do is make sure that they don't expand any further, resist military -- military with muslim allies at their border and allow them to become the pathetic poor state they are rather than the one that's favored by god that they claim to be. once that's visible to the world, and especially the small portion of muslims attracted to this inherently, people once they see that, i think, will be less interested in joining up and more interested in staying home, wherever they are. >> graeme wood is the leve calm contributing editor of "the atlantic" magazine the march edition, that's the cover and that's his article. i learned a lot.

as one who has been reading for many months, on this matter extensively, i learned a lot from your article and i appreciate it. >> thank you, shep. >> i think the thing that has come together for our team we see a certain responsibility to you and everybody else, however big it is, to try to understand this as best as we can. if we don't understand it as a society, we are going to screw it up. we're very good at that screwing things up. and it usually happens when we don't understand it. so, through many, many, many many hours of reading, if i want to pass along one thing it is, do some reading. try to understand who these people are, because i would bet you, sadly, there's going to come as a day when we as a society are going to see something so atrocious that some of the voices are going to started screaming send in our armies. defeated this and defeat it now. the writing of graeme wood is the day we do that, is the day they win in ways like -- that we

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23 minutes before the hour. for the first time we're seeing and hearing key evidence from the "american sniper "murder trial. the veteran who gunned down chris kyle and his friend chad littlefield will spend the rest of his life behind bars no chance for parole. that's the sentence a texas judge handed down last night after jury rejected eddie ray routh was insane. >> we find the defendant guilty of the following offensive capital murder as charged in the indictment. >> reporter: the killer showing no reaction at all as his two-week trial ended. the judge ruling he'll never be eligible for parole for the

murders of chad littlefield and chris kyle. >> a tell you, i'm chris kyle, nice to meet you. >> reporter: kyle's autobiography is a blockbuster film with him saying a final good-bye to his wife. it's a moment which came up as she took the stand. >> when did you last see chris? that day? >> >> reporter: clearly lost in an otherwise ordinary memory. >> hugged each other and gave our kids a hug like he always did. >> reporter: the judge for the first time allowing us to hear the audio of the court proceedings, including routh's confession to police. >> i told her i had to kill that day. it wasn't i want to or a -- it was a need. hi to. >> reporter: had to kill, he claimed. pleading not guilty by reason of insanity, an idea he first raise in the back of a police car after his arrest. >> i don't know if i'm insane or

sane. i don't know what's even sane in the world right now. >> reporter: his lawyers pointing to his strange behavior, including his fast food craving after the shootings. >> it's so simple. he didn't know it was wrong because you went to taco bell. >> reporter: but prosecutors using routh's own words against him. >> that's the reason you fled, right? you knew it was wrong? >> some of that killing was wrong, right? >> right. >> reporter: it took the jury a couple hours deliberation to bring the families of these two men to hear the news they waited to hear. >> we waited for two years to get justice for us on behalf of our son and as always god has proved to be faithful. >> chris kyle's wife released a statement on his facebook page today. she wrote, what a poetic morning when the snow is melting and the

winter is thawing out, promising a new day. god bless the jury and the good people of stephenville, texas. we talked at length this hour the islamic state, what the terrorists want and why they believe they're unstoppable. now president obama's envoy to the united states coalition against isis says it has shattered the group's aura of invincibility. that envoy retired john allen, spoke at a senate hearing just a short time ago. >> the last six months have amply demonstrated that isil is really operating as a criminal gang and a death cult which is under increasing pressure as it sends naive and gullible recruits to die by the hundreds. >> this comes as u.s. forces train iraqi soldiers for what it described to us as a major offensive to retake the isis stronghold of mosul, the second largest city in iraq. pentagon officials say nearly $18 million of u.s. weapons has arrived in iraq ahead of that mission. officials say the stockpile includes some 10,000 m-16 rifles

plus ammunition. they say they had previously sent body armor as well as armored vehicles. in syria, activists and state-run media reports indicates isis has moved dozens of christian hostages to a city it controls in the country's northeast. activists there say terrorists yesterday rounded up at least 70 men, women and children while storming christian villages in that area. relatives say they fear the hostages will become the next victims of the isis slaughter, paraded before us in a series of isis propaganda videos. meantime, the king of jordan met with the new king of saudi arabia today to discuss the fight against terrorism. we know not what they said. the two countries are among several arab nations helping the united states bomb isis fighters in syria. jennifer griffin works at the pentagon for us. the u.s. embassy just issued a warning to americans living in jordan's capital of amman? >> that's right. there appears to be new

intelligence showing isis wants to strike shopping malls where americans may shop in jordan. the u.s. embassy in amman just put out the following warning quote, the u.s. embassy has received information of a potential threat against high-end malls in amman. the threat is judged to be credible, although the possible time frame and type of threat are unknown. of course, this comes after the threat issued by al shabab, the somali al qaeda affiliate, to attack malls in america, something that the fbi says they have no credible intelligence to support. jordan is a softer target, closer to syria for isis fighters to infiltrate. the u.s. has stepped up air strikes in and around al hassakeh in syria, close to where those christians were taken hostage on monday. a syrian christian leader says the number of hostages may be closer to 350. >> back to iraq now. i reported a moment ago that yet again we're sending a bunch of weapons into iraq. what more do we know on that? >> well general john allen was asked that very question, about

whether the kurds were receiving these weapons that were being sent to baghdad. he was asked by senators just moments ago. here's his response. >> baghdad has not disapproved any requests that the kurds have made for weapons. >> the u.s. has stepped up air strikes around mosul carrying out three in the past 24 hours. it destroyed 11 buildings on the outskirts of mosul. evidence perhaps confirming what centcom officials said they are shaping around mosul for spring offensive by iraqi troops. as graeme wood just point out, it's not just the u.s.-led coalition that's preparing, so is isis, trying to bait the west. reports today that isis fighters in mosul have burned down the public library there, which was filled with ancient texts that went back to the ottoman empire, including 8,000 rare books, reminiscent of what the taliban did. >> going back to the answer given there in the hearing i thought that was a telling as

anything i've heard in a long time. the question was have you given the weapons -- we have not refused to give them to them. the truth s they can't get to the kurds because they can't get through baghdad because they're all fighting, because they always fight. >> there you have it. >> i mean jennifer, thanks a lot. the point s you have to send the weapons through baghdad because that's the government as recognized of the whole place. but the kurds see themselves as kurdistan up there and down in baghdad it's a different sect, so they're certainly not going to send the weapons up there. they pray they might turn them on them. so, are the kurds getting the weapons? no. have you denied sending them? the answer was no we haven't denied sending them. the further answer is, they're not getting them. they aren't. a major supreme court case on religious freedom under way today. are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes... ...with non-insulin victoza. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza. he said victoza works differently than pills and comes in a pen. victoza is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c.

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the supreme court hearing argument in a controversial religious freedom case and it centers around a muslim woman who sued the clothing retailer abercrombie & fitch. she claimed they didn't hire her

because of her head scarf. the woman interviewed for a job at one of the stores in tulsa, oklahoma, way back in 2008. abercrombie banned head scarves at the time. the company claimed she never asked the store to make an exception for her. and that's the main question that judges have to consider whether a potential employee has to make clear that that employee or potential employee has a religious exemption need. fox news judicial analyst andrew is here. >> or whether the corporation, which employs professional recruiters has to ask now look, you're interviewing for a job that's really being a model. this is abercrombie & fitch. it's not a nomplal store. everybody that works there models the close -- >> they model the clothes. >> preppy sexy. how can we hire you if you don't take the scarf after your face. that's what was argued today. reading the transcript of the oral argument, it looks like the young woman is going to win.

which means an order to abercrombie, they have to hire her and she can wear her full religious garb as she works next to people they wear next to nothing. >> i thought they would just hire hot people. no girls with more than a 1 waist and -- >> a bona fide occupational qualification, it's a legal term, believe it or not, meaning the store will only hire people that are good looking and sexy. that's what they use to draw their customers in then they can limit their recruits to people that are good looking and sexy. if the woman wouldn't take enough -- i can't say this with a straight face -- enough clothing off to demonstrate she was good looking and sexy how can they hire her? that's abercrombie's argument? her argument is she has religious views, she has the right to have any job she's qualified for. i think that's the way the court is going to go.

>> that will be interesting to watch. >> it will. and interesting to see what happens to the store. >> not hating on a hijab, but that would certainly change the character around it. >> and it would cause a lot of other religious exemptions to be granted. >> if they start hiring the ugly, they're done. >> they would. >> that smell -- >> do you stop in there? >> i haven't been in there forever but once to buy a gift. once was enough. thank you. we're getting word iran has been running a secret nuclear facility for years. meantime, the iranian navy conducting military exercises destroying what is supposed to look like a united states aircraft carrier. oh, really, iran? that and snow in dixie coming up.

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iran and an extremely tense situation with that country just got a lot more complicated. there are several headlines here. start with the apparent secret nuclear facility. an irani ex-skyle group accusing iran's government of conducting secret research to develop nuclear weapons even as iran is negotiating a potential nuke deal with the west. the national council of resistance of iran says the underground labs are in suburban terran. they claim the labs have been used since 2008 to enrich u rain uranium. fox news cannot verify this report. the secretary of state john kerry was testifying before congress. kerry was defending the administration's nuclear talks with iran even as u.s. and iranian officials report progress in negotiations iran's revolutionary guard is conducting an exercise simulating an attack on a u.s. aircraft carrier.

all nationally televised. rocketsguns blazing, a u.s. aircraft carrier. bake lay barge. the drills took place near a vital entrance to the persian gulf. the straits of hormuz. live from jerusalem now, is the military exercise supposed to be a threat to us or what? >> it's basically being taken that way, put out there by iranian officials. one saying this is to show the might of the irani country to the united states and really to the world. now, according to u.s. officials, a fairly common occurrence, but this was more than what iran held in the strait of hormuz in the persian gulf before, and this was directly sort of at america. even shot down an american-style drone, laid underwater mines to

show what would happen if the strait of hormuz or about 20% of the world's oil goes through. it was really directed at the united states, at the world, at a time when talks between the united states and iran and the world are heerting up over the nuclear program. the pentagon for their part downplayed this, said it's a normal occurrence and the u.s. even holds exercises like this commonly shepard. >> conner pyle in jerusalem, thanks. snowing in oxford. so i'll show it to you. that's next. what if one push up could prevent heart disease? [man grunts] one wishful thinking, right? but there is one step you can take to help prevent another serious disease- pneumococcal pneumonia. one dose of the prevnar 13® vaccine can help protect you ... from pneumococcal pneumonia, an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain difficulty breathing and may even put you in the hospital. prevnar 13 ® is used in adults 50 and older to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13 ® if you've had a severe allergic reaction

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winter storm underway now in much of dixie. freezing rain and snow. slubt mess from folks from texas to virginia. the forecasters say some spots could get eight inches. expecting three to six in oxford. this is union plaza, basically it's the grove right out in front of the union there and a bunch of kids playing snowmen. look at this too if you want. the quadangle today. a winter wonderland on the beautiful campus of old miss and

coffee shop. live cameras of the arena. look at this. building a new basketball arena. right now it's snowing inside. good luck andy kennedy. beat them bulldogs. see you tomorrow. i think about it all this time focused on what horror they are unleashing over there. three of them just caught possibly hoping to do the same kind of thing over here. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto and two nabbed in new york, another in florida. all three set to do god know what's here from killing fbi agents, we're told, all the way to the president of the united states. and anyone and everyone in between who was going get in their way. by now you know they were stopped but the leader of the independent party says you better know the movement they were joining it around stopping. how how england found out the hard way