o'reilly factor. good night from washington. see you on gretawire and see you right here tomorrow 7:00 p.m. eastern. tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye" as north korea leaks a new" fast and furious" movie the footage is so good you will pay to see it again. and who does joe biden hold responsible for can selling his favorite tv show "selfie." >> i am confident -- i am confident it is all the president's fault. >> and which one of our presidents was a hello kitty pho fat particular? fanatic? >> none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> i am tom shillue filling in for "red eye" who claims he will be hosting this show tomorrow. and now let's welcome our guests. you can't spell winner without wine every night. i am here with joanne

nosuchunsky. he once told me i was a warped, us from -- warped frustrated old man. tv's andy levey. he loves wings right wings. the publisher of the federal list and senior fellow for the heartland institute and just like his dad, the favorite color is plaid. next to me is gavin mcguinness. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> he did it to himselfy. he reportedly spent thousands of taxpayer and campaign money on private planes and entertainment. and here is the delicious part. the republican's questionable spending was tracked through pictures he posted on instagram. the ap reports that shock has taken 12 flights worth more than $40,000 on planes owned by donors.

that's not that much. and he took interns to a katy perry concert with tickets paid for by his office. one intern says you can't say no when your boss invites you. danced my butt off. earlier when questions arose about his "downton abbey"-style office he replied haters gonna hate. i believe he was quoting my favorite ariana grande song. ben, how bad is this for shock, mr. shock? >> it is not that bad. the hardest part is the katie kerry con expert. if you are -- katy perry concert. i have to assume they are deaf adolescent boys because that is katy perry's demo. >> the girls like her? >> go to billy joel. everybody loves billy joel. >> are you the voice of the

ladies? >> selfies don't lie. should he be -- you know should he be hoisted? he put it all out there. i feel like the real problem was not that he was taking selfies. he is spending money right and left and he is having fun. he thinks he is the first lady or something like that. >> he is having a ball. his instagram feed is fantastic. look at all of these celebrities. does he deserve the scandal? >> i don't think so. i checked out his feed and i just saw him doing free stuff. surfing and walking down the great wall of china. >> it is called delete gavin. he got rid of the other photos. >> even what we are seeing here. it is free stuff. it cost $50. the department of homeland security spent $150,000 million on furniture. a few first class flights? big whoop. >> it was $40,000.

>> that's first class. >> that's not a bad rate. >> it is better than what obama spends. >> joanne, they are always getting in trouble with the selfies. should the millenials stop with the selfies? >> i like the selfies. he is giving us exactly what we are asking for. and we keep forgetting what we see on instagram and social media it is the best of people's lives. it is painting a certain picture. it is not painting the whole picture. so there are selfies where he is doing some really great charity work and no one is seeing that. no one is focusing on that because it is a bad angle. >> he only up loads the choicest pictures. >> they are great pictures. >> he is having a great life and he likes animals. there are lots of pictures with animals. what do you think? your thoughts? >> here is how i look at this should chaka have done this?

no. is he a handsome man? yes. i don't think he should beheld to the same standards. i don't believe good looking people in general should be held to the same standards. i don't believe me, joanne ben and gavin should be required to follow the same rules as someone like you, tom. now, if i didn't believe this, i would say that shock might be in some trouble because it really does look like he is playing fast and loose with taxpayer money. most of the taxpayers are not attractive, so i think it is fine. >> i don't know if i am that much better looking than you four guys. >> i think it is time we stop taking these politicians so seriously. why is it so undignified for a politician? >> the future of the republican party is to embrace this huberous. remember when joe biden's son is in trouble for doing

cocaine? i don't want to live in a place where the president's son doesn't do cocaine. let's have flam boy -- flamboyant showoffs. we say what are you doing you wild and crazy young guy? we should embrace this. it is ballsy. i haven't seen any spending and i i haven't seen any egregious selfies. >> you have a point. it is like minority report but does it distort? many are using psychological tests to predict if an inmate is going to commit a future crime. the evaluations consist of 100 questions and are aimed at reducing the prison population and saving money. they are known as risk and needs assessments and include questions about things like a criminal's education family and income level. some people think the tests are good. >> those that are validated show potential in being able

to distinguish between high risk medium risk and low risk for reoffending. >> some think they are bad. >> i think conceptually it sounds good but when you lift the hood and when you look underneath and get down underneath and get into the transmission you can see it is a chaotic mess. >> you love these tests. i am asking how a test like this should be. 70%, one study shows it is 70% accurate. is that good enough? we talk about rapists and pedophiles into the streets. >> what i am curious about is whether the tests are interesting or funny? is it that seem in "blazing saddles" where everybody is ripping off all of the crimes they have? are you thinking of murdering someone now? yes, no, maybe. cooperate we have more fun with the test -- couldn't we find out how to have more fun

with the tests? i feel like that is the missed opportunity. if we are going to do a weird prototype for a future sci-fi movie i would prefer "weird science" to" minority report." >> an inmate tested was rated as low risk but was released and then did something terrible raped and murdered someone. should that be enough to end the program completely? >> it is not accurate. i just think it is a waste of time. it is paperwork for people to go through. the nonviolent offenders should be the first to leave if you want to reduce overcrowding. if you want to reduce prison population costs and raw -- raw said do very much did i say that right? use criminalized drug use. it is the easiest and the cheapest way to do it. >> de criminalize drug use. you probably agree with they are on that. if it were up to you we would

empty the prisons. let them run through the streets, right this. >> i am not great at history but my understanding is that turned out well? i saw "les-mis." i think all non-violent drug offenders people who paid for sex and people who were paid for sex should be let out of prison. there are two problems. one is there is to way to prove they work. even if 100% of the people who were released because the test said they were low risk don't commit anymore crimes. you could never prove the people kept locked up because they were rated at high risk couldn't prove they were committing crimes. you couldn't keep people in jail. it seems to me that smart criminals are more likely to figure out how to answer these test questions. i would rather have the smart criminals in jail and the dumb

ones free. >> it reminds me that there was "the fog of war" and mcnamara was going into the military and they said would you rather be a florist or a soldier or something. he said i knew what they were getting at and i said a soldier, but i was a florist. gavin, the ap says it may unfairly punish inmates, but who cares? we are locking them away. why are we worrying about punishing them? the beauty of these things is numbers don't lie and people get so uncomfortable around uncomfortable subjects like what does eric holder say? he is okay with it if it is to the based on unchangeable factors. the numbers don't care how you feel. the data gave $184 million in savings. they pre -- prevented 3,000 inmates from coming back.

i don't care with some data that didn't comply. it is saving money and it is a great thing. >> did they add in the money of all of the people who make the tests and the psychologists. >> the reason it saves money is the criminals they let go did bank heists and the state took 50% of that for letting them go. >> after the bank heist they had the wherewith all to say here is your 50%. i am on the run now. >> it was part of the root. >> it is a good way to come up with a plot for a number of con movies. >> it sounds like a ben affleck film. andy was being facetious. >> he is pleading the fifth. wisconsin governor and presidential candidate scott walker doesn't know if president obama is a

christian. after being told the public has publicly spoken walker doubled down. you asked me to make statements against people i cooperate have a conversation about. how would i know if you are a christian. >> it is a week after rudy guiliani said he wasn't sure if the president loved america. he has since declined to weigh in. i don't know. i honestly don't know one way or the other. meanwhile video has surfaced from the private dinner. what . >> that was a fun party. andy, first and foremost was

it a stupid thing to say? >> it was a not great answer to an shrewdly ridiculous question. i think the correct answer is who cares? that's what walker should have said. the politically correct answer says president obama says he is a christian and i take him as his word. on the other hand president obama says all of these people who say they are muslim aren't really muslim. at this point even if somebody says they are a member of a religion we can say no their a not. i guess you can't take president obama at his word when he says he is a christian. >> ben, i don't know. as governor walker says he was on greta earlier and they were gotcha questions and he is tired of it. >> they are gotcha questions when it comes to radical islam. scott walker does sit on the throne of his enemies but he is not a psychic.

i don't be bridge his answer to say you don't know what is going on inside a guy's head especially when he is suing the little sisters of the poor. >> maybe he should have said -- well he says he is, so i will take him at his word. sim -- simple as that. >> maybe he could give a more in depth answer. do you think he has been saved? has his name been written in god's book. >> i think he was in london and asked about evolution. if not it was another guy with a british accent. if he says i am not going to get involved into that. he does president want to take a stand on any of these issues. >> whenever somebody asks the question you say well do you believe in darwinian. there is a lot you can say

about a guy who is throwing a gotcha e-mail out. we can't look into everybody's heart, but do you think obama is a christian? >> we are allowed to have questions like that. we are silly pundits. personally you want to get to the g-dog and say no, of course he is not a christian. he is a drop dead atheist. it is understand -- it sounds like drop dead gorgeous. he cannot be taken but if i was running for the president you don't take this bait. it is there to hang him and make him look like a religious nut. he shouldn't fall for. it i will say that i think the president should be christian. he later said it doesn't matter.

america is 83% christian. i don't want a president who is not christian. america was built on christian values. i don't think the president should be single or not have kids. he has to be a family man and he has to be -- christian. >> let's assume he is in a christian and he has been to copy of and he is a christian. would you rather have christian president obama or a right wing atheist. >> well that's weird. that's like saying would you still be with your rife if her feet grow as long as the table. and eva men december wants to go to -- generally speaking overall of the residents we should look at family guys. >> i don't wear what is in your heart.

joanne, you agree with me on that but how outraged are you at scott walker? >> i am not outraged. i am disappointed. so how much of what you say it is not what you say, but how you say it. he will have another year or more of these sophmoric questions. what he needs to do and what the rest of the night needs to do is find the funny. >> he should be ready for this. >> every candidate should have to say. >> i think we have to drill down on this. >> that's bad too because he will look pre pretentious. >> all he should have said was i am not sure. i saw a poster on the wall and there was one set of

footprints into the sand. joanne you are too young to remember this. yawn ashcroft. john ashcroft. it is not the question, but it is the follow-up. john ashcroft everyone made fun of him and there were many stories written about the fact he covered up a naked statue that was in the press room of somewhere he was giving a press conference. he covered it with curtains and everybody called him a prude and a puritan. the reason was every time he gave a press conference all of the snickering camera people when off to the side of the room. he was sig -- sick of having a picture of boobs over his head. >> there are three. >> so he got grief from the press. everyone chimed in. they said look at him.

he is covering statues. they set him up. >> you know you pinpointed and there is like an archie bunker now wants to be president. and i don't think obama is muslim. i don't want nude tach yous. statues. >> they just make it up. >> they do. the same way he kissed car chee bunker on the chief. >> a preview of the new book "a hobbit's tale." first a child is forced to wear a t-shirt of shame. it must be from hot topic.

did her shirt cause hurt? a florida mom -- oh no. this can't be good. she was arrested after she forced her daughter to wear a humiliating t-shirt to school. it said i have all f's in all of my classes. i am not allowed to have a boyfriend no time soon. 10* back off before i get another good whooping like i got last night. unless you are helping me with this goal, back off. my eating french fries and being a social butterfly is over. want to be my friend help me. they con -- contacted police. she is being held on bond. obviously i do not condone violence of any kind. if i am by myself my wife makes me wear t-shirts.

she would never strike me, but it is good. god bless her. should this mom have been allowed to have kids at all? >> yes. her abilities are pretty good. the grammar and the spelling are not so great. but do you know how hard it is to write in marker on a t-shirt? very. she did it pretty straight with very nice hand writing. she has mom hand writing. >> it is not that. the dear is getting f's. it is an imitation of how the daughter would write. >> probably not. >> a shirt that shames your kid for a day does not make up for a year of bad parenting.

it does go back to the home. if you are getting f's i'm sure you had teachers calling or notes sent home or you noticed your kid was slacking, so i don't know what the home dynamic is, but it starts in the home doesn't it? >> it sure does. if i was a kid you were caught chewing gum and you had to wear it on your nose. >> really? >> yes. >> you mean at home or at school. >> in school. >> we might have had that too. the officer arrived and went to the home and observed numerous bruises and belt marks to the child's arms and shoulders -- >> bite? >> belt marks. maybe don't whack your kids' arms with a belt. >> definitely don't. maybe not maybe. >> maybe don't have your kid wear a shirt that says she got a whoopin last night. that's a good tipoff to the cops they may want to look at what is going on. the t-shirts you wear have

nothing to do with shame. they were warnings for others. >> they are not? >> they are warnings for people around you. >> since wearing the t-shirts i have got into zero trouble. >> everybody stays away from you. >> maybe it works. gavin, you have children. >> i do. >> do you think any level of shaming is god for children? >> oh god i don't know how to say this politically correctly. >> that has never stopped you before. >> i am a different demographic and live in a different environment. i don't hit my kid, but it doesn't come up. this is another example of middle class white people telling poor black people how to run their lives like we all have the same l live in the same neighborhood. shaming seems to work in this environment and so does corporal punishment so leave her alone. there is a great barber shop if atlanta called a-1 cuts.

it is called the benjamin button special for kids acting like they grown. they caught -- okay those kids' grades sky rocketed. you can be an upper west side liberal and say oh look. it was stunning and that was humiliating. i banish thee from parenthood. you don't know how tough this kid has to be to survive. leave this woman alive and let her try to get her daughter educated. >> in my defense i no longer live on the upper west need. upper west side. >> people cooperate follow it. ben, gasp vin is pro violence are you? >> in certain circumstances. >> this is florida so you have to give them a little leeway. at least when it comes to the

grammar side of things. >> i don't think you will see a shirt onett see there has been all of these experiences in the past instead of giving somebody a six-month sentence they have to walk around the store they robbed with a sign. why not grief it a try? >> you know who it works on, the pets. the dog ate the show and they have a sign. and then they do it again. >> hitting a pet does not hurt -- i many does not help. >> some of our fanal lists think some level of shaming is okay. we are not for hitting with a belt right? >> you think she should be left alone? >> i would never use a belt on my kids but i won't judge someone else when i don't know their environment. using a belt on a kid should be something where the parent gets arrested and goes to jail. >> i for one if i ever had kids i promise promise not to

judge them. >> every generation before ours got the belt every night. >> and now we have obama as president. >> that's all the belt. >> before you made a good point. you said i don't hit my kids because they never came up. >> you had a belt in the household. >> threaten. >> should your dad go to jail? >> cameron diaz's husband tattoo her name on his chest. she plans to tattoo her chest with his name.

he is stoked about getting soaked. it is time for this week's. >> "red eye" hero. >> we are going to play a video for you. it is called wet messy and gunge video mix. it is delightful.

i believe we need a little more. i was waiting for that one. it goes on for another 16 hours. actually it is 12 minutes. the man's name is gernout. he says this trailer contains many wet, gung scenes of

videos you up loaded. i wish you a lot of fun and hope you enjoy my wet and messy video clips. i did enjoy them, sir, very much. gavin, you are kind of an expert at this thing. is this like a fetish thing you think? is it a sex thing? >> aquaphilia -- >> i knew you would have the word. >> it 99.9% women fully clothed getting into bathtubs and pools. it is an off shoot of the spludge where they cover themselves in beans and food. i don't think it is sexual. it is proof of a theory i have had for awhile that is very, very, very smart people have similar lifestyles to very, very very slow people. this guy is like an as burger's super genius who can use transformers in his use

using am ma thirst crystals and he likes to do this. maybe somebody has a head injury or born with a low iq, god bless their cotton socks would enjoy this. the human brain as they get dumber and dumber and smarter and smarter they meet in the gunge. the ben diagram of crankiness. >> is there anything that makes you as happy as gunge? >> i'm not sure there is. i learned a lot in the past minute. i guess troy mccliewr's fishing is not an intented thing. they said the judges are bad and the come combination of those things is bad. it seems dangerous and it couldy boo the start of a

gungetendency of the youth. it can lead to all ports of medical problems. >> joanne, what do you think? you dated him in the late 90s. >> it was a great five years. at the same time he was pursuing a career in being a water stunt double. this is his real he would send to cast agents. he as president booked any work though -- he also s hasn't booked any work. >> he deflates it and inflates it several times. he must have been a joy to potty train as a wild. as a child. i $link tide -- think tide should get in on this. they are a perfect fit. >> do you jump in the creek

every day? >> i don't know about styed. -- tide. it is not biodegradable. what is your five rate part? in the 18 years doing the show i don't think we have ever done as story as nothing as this. >> we have had a lot of nothing stories on the show, but i think we all watched the have i yow. the video. >> i will say this is pretty tame and not what i was expecting. i think it may have been fate. the water was added digitally. i don't like what you said about aqua man. you have super hero friends on the brain. what superman did to uh hua man is a shame. >> i am starting to think we all might have a little of this. what did you call it aquaphilia. listen there is a t sh show

where we think it is the greatest. >> what about the als challenge. >> all high school men have a fetish for naked ladies. >> if you put them out of a can, we love. it why gao think that swept the nation. we are all infected. >> let's embrace it then. let's get wet. >> i thought weed ad it. coming up a professor lives in a dumpster for a year and expwroa anne calls it plan b. here is what is coming up tomorrow on "kennedy." >> hi there hot stuff. lieutenant colonel rail of peters and my -- raffle peters and john stocell. 7:00 eastern and 9:00

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will he riew his tattoo? cameron diaz's new husband, benji madden from good charlotte, one of my favorites marked the two-month old wedding boy putting cameron in curtis on his chest. will it last? some say no and some say

absolutely no. i think it will last until death do they part but if the fess mists are benji will be forced to cover it up or say it is a tribute to james cameron. i don't know which is worse. andy, is it ever a good idea to get a tattoo of anyone's name? any tattoo. >> i have one tattoo and no regrets. it is over my heart and it is edward snowden holding a constitution in one hand. >> i thought gutfeld was slandering you. >> i i have -- i have one tattoo and i have absolutely no regrets about it. well joanne what about you? any tattoo? >> my body is a

i just have my ears pierced. that's it. i would date a guy with tattoo and other girls names tattoo. it shows he can commit which is great. and he can't lie about his ex's. i know who they are. >> do you like the rock and roll look though this guy? >> i go through phases. >> i never knew you felt that way about tattoo. would you date a guy with tattoo whose wife disappeared -- >> a lot of hypotheticals might you consider? >> i don't think anything at all. i am pretty happy. i also think when it comes to this sort of thing if he wants to etch something that shows commitment it would have been a pre up in. a pre-nup. >> so many asians are getting their eyes caucasianed but i

like you are proud of who you are. >> name tattooed somewhere here. i think that's what tattoo are all about. if i had to change one tattoo it would probably be the yellly fellowshiping pho bell was -- fidel castro was there. it is back down my arms arms and one is the hero of capitalism and he is devouring them. it was cool, but when i got to the water park with the kids i feel like a kony island freak show. you can wear a sun shirt. >> you can wear a sun shirt. it is my whole body. >> i don't want you to take off your suit. >> that would be ideal if we had a clip. >> and then this puppy -- i

started that in money montreal. it is about creative destruction which is a thing you can look up on the internet. and then there is this big [bleep] jellyfish some by was just learning tattoo about. it is based on curtis mantroncis. >> how did they have the technology? >> how long did that -- >> that was 36 hours. >> 236for the whole back. >> were you intoxicated the entire time. >> sometimes i was on drugs or painkillers. >> that's why you dress up. >> it is call shame. it is your own t-shirt of concern. the florida man designed it. >> did you ever want to give up? >> you want because you get the outline first.

now it is a third color. people think i am prepy because i like it, -- you have the same thing. i don't show it at night -- >> that's the nonfox tom. >> i get tatted up. >> that's the barber shot. >> oh well. do you think this marriage will last? >> are you married? >> no, cameron diaz. it is not looking good. i think the odds are 40%? >> she waited all of this time to get married you would hope. >> never been married before? >> yeng so. i don't think so. >> she still looks great right? >> she looks amazing. >> she was 8.8. mine?

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joanne and andy will be on lou daabs tonight wednesday 7:00 p.m. and fox business network. coming up tomorrow on the next "red eye" greg returns to host and his guests are mike baker and sam morrell. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. he made a spectacle by living in a resepta cal. an environmental studies professor in austin, texas just completed a year of living dumpster rously. he leafed in a 33 square-foot trashcan on the outer campus. he added heferl amenities the point was to prove that people can be happy if they live in a small space meant for garbage. a theory disproven by oscar the grouch. wilson claimed he wanted to be

the ultimate one percenter living in the 1% size using 1% of the electricity and creating 1% of the waste. was this a waste of time? gavin? >> yeah. what was the revelation here? a single guy who is a professor and surrounded by young, beautiful women who admire it can be happy with just a bed? whoa! mind blown. >> do you think he had visitors? >> he is one of the -- he is not a real professor. he can't have tenure. he is surrounded by babes. >> he was making a point about the environment. >> yeah the environment under the sheets. >> do you think living among garbage helps the environment? >> it is the epicenter and so i am not surprised by the story. i do think he is doing us a real favor in terms of

minimizing his carbon footprint and impact on social services and minimizing the chances that he has of ever pro cree yaitinging. procreating. it will not result in a long-term family relationship with this fellas. >> and i don't think that's where he is heading. >> more power to him. that's what texas needs, more guys looking in dump spurs. >> it didn't look bad. >> we know i like money and space. i think it is awful of him. there are some people who have to live in a space that small who don't get clean water and nice air conditioning. he a -- he is choosing this. they don't get to choose to live in poverty. >> he is the bad guys for try to show people. >> he is ut ping the white privilege in front of their

faces. >> is it white privilege? >> it sort of it. the people i need in college, it was thought a compliment. the guy had an ac and a space heater. not impressive. >> i was surprised. i like that he had a little tortoise, a little doctor exro thing. this is what i don't like. he wanted to show he can live happily like millions of people around the world do. does he think the people who live in the huts around the world wouldn't love to have more womb. have more room. all it is is a manifestation of over crowding. >> i'm pretty sure that's exactly what i just said. >> what i did was put it in more -- >> guy terms. >> the stupid things you do. >> i don't know why people don't just consume.

we have to consume things. that's what makes the economy go. a very special thanks to joanne noah chin ski. tv's andy levey and gavin mcguinness. that does it for me, tom shillue. see you next time. gh and dirty? don't avoid it. resolve it. our new formula with a special conditioning ingredient softens your carpet with every use. it's resolve, so you know it cleans and freshens but now it also softens. resolve. a carpet that welcomes you. and try resolve for amazing stain removal the first time.

breaking tonight, the reviews are in for a host of republicans testing the waters for a possible white house run. and the crowds are going crazy for one man in particular, welcome to "the kelly file." i'm shannon bream in tonight for megyn kelly. on the first big night of the unofficial kickoff to the 2016 gop campaign for president thousands of conservative activists, lawmakers and party leaders are gathered just outside washington, d.c. for the conservative political action conference or cpac as it's been called, the silent primary where some hopefuls explode on the scene and others fail to find their spark. today, three of the party's potential front runners did their best to fire up the crowd. >> there's not a