hello cpac! you're going to hear from the next president of the united states right here from this stage during this cpac.2ñ >> the conservative movement must be a great agent of reform. we must offer a vision of change. >> is it >> is it the destiny of this country to stand as a beacon of hope and freedom for the entire world. there comes important critical moments in our history where we have to stand up and say if we keep doing what we're doing now it doesn't matter anyway.

>> we're going to make this country rich again. we can do it with smart leadership. >> >> it'sed to go to oppose bad things but we have to start being for things. >> and welcome to hannity from cpac. later we'll check in with marco rubio rubio. today i sat down to discuss issues with former governor jeb bush. >> you made a statement the other day you said i am my own man. >> if >> if i go beyond the consideration of running whicbka is the legal terminology that many people are using. if i get beyond that and run for president i have to show what's in my heart and that i care about people and their future. it can't be about the past and about my mom and dad and brother. i love

i love them all. it has to be about the ideas i believe in to move our country forward so we can have sustained economic growth where more people can have a chance for success. more and more and more people don't think that systemusy)ñ works for them any more. we nee we need to give the conservatives hope that if we create the field of dreams that people can rise up again. >> the last time you were at cpac. you sa you said all too often we're -- i think you were talking about conservatives, we are labeled and associated with beingd anti-everything. manyp many people believe that republicans are anti-immigrant, anti-woman, anti-science anti-gay and the list goes on. >> the conservatives in washington have been opposing the overreach and they have done a pretty good job. the president jammed down throat obamacare, the affordable care act and dodd-frank and the

stimulus. he is now he is now using executive power to carry out his agenda. but over time we have to start being for things again. i think what we need to be for is a strong national defense where we are committed, each and every day to protect the homeland with these new a assymetric threats. and we need to stand for a strong national defense and the defense of the homeland and we need to give people a sense that if we start growing our economy again the middle would start having rising income again. and what you would do to do that is offer compelling alternatives to the failed tax policies, the failed regulation policies, a broken education system and making sure that people know we're on their side to rise up. it's good to oppose the bad

things but we have to start being for things. and here's the deal. there are a lot of -- obviously there are a lot of committed conservatives in this room. that's why is it a spectacular gathering. there are a there are a lot of other conservatives that haven't been asked. if we share if we share our enthusiasm and love of our country and belief in our philosophy we will get latinos and young people and other people you need to win to get 50. >> governor. let me -- every art -- article i have read deals with you and conservative issues. >> i heard about it. >> it has to do with immigration and common core. let's directly deal with this. you said, yeah they broke the law. it's not it's not a felony. it's an act of love. you also said that you support a pathway to citizenship and i

want -- and when you were governor two other things, when you were a governor you supported driver's license for imlegal immigrants and in-state tuition prices for those children of illegal immigrant that weren't citizens. hang on -- i want to give you an opportunity to address that. >> sure. so on immigration i wrote a book about. this instead of opining about what i believe you can get it on amazon. it's called "immigration wars" i talk about the need to enforce the borders. a great country needs to enforce borders for national security purposes, public health purposes and the rule of law. secondly we need a narrow family petitioning, spouse and minor children not this broad definition of spouse minor children and adult siblings and

adult parties which crowds out the economic driven immigrants, those who want to come here to work and create opportunities for all of us. and that's what we need to get to. and so and so as a -- and the plan also includes a path to legal status. i have not seen anybody -- and i know there's disagreement here. some of these people are angry about this. and, look, i feel your pain. i was in miami this morning and it was 70 degrees. the simple fact is there is no plan to deport 11 million people. we should give them a path to legal status where they work and don't receive government benefits and they don't break the law where they learn english, and where they make a contribution to our society. that's what we need to be focused on. >> a lot of reaction. let me do a follow up. we had -- senator rubio a

friend of yours from florida. i asked him the same question. we hear about spending cuts and tax increases. we always get the increase but not the spending cut. the congress has tried comprehensive immigration reform and it has failed. we now have a crisis with the department of homeland security. and my question is, why not secure the borders first. once it's verified secured -- >> let's do it. let's do it man. instead of having a political argument about this the president did use authority he doesn't have the courts are going to overrule that. let's control the border. there's nothing wrong with that. that's what a great nation has to do. there's nothing that holds back the republicans to put a plan in place to do that. but the simple fact is this nation needs to start growing at a far faster rate than we are today. we have to be young and dynamic

and aspirational again for all the young people to get a job, a purpose and a meaning. we have to change to high sustained economic growth. >> i don't want to spend all the time on immigration. but i want to go through yes or no scenarios do. you agree with conservatives that say congress should not pass a homeland security funding bill to fund the president's illegal and unconstitutional amnesty. >> i think >> i think congress ought to pass a bill that should not allow him to use that authority. i don't know. i'm not an expert of the ways of washington. it makes it makes no sense to me that we're not funding control of our border which is the whole argument. i'm i'm missing something. i'm not an expert on that. the fimpl fact is that the president has gone beyond his constitutional power to do this and the congress has every right to reinstate their responsibility for what law is about. >> yes or >> yes or no, 100,000 people came from central america we

watched last summer. should they be send home? >> i thought they should have been sent home at the border. the humanitarian thing would have been to consistently say from the beginning, don't risk your lives as young people. don't pay the gangsters in central america money from your family members in this country to come all the way across and just get into the country and be processed and now with our broken system it may take three or four years to process them. send a clear signal this was a dangerous and wrong thing to do and it would have stopped the flow. we we did that as it relates to in miami in florida. that was exactly what bush 41 did as it related to haitians and it stopped the flow of people. and people didn't and people didn't lose their lives trying to come to the country. >> i >> i mentioned this earlier when i had an opportunity to speak to the crowd. at this point in the country at

this moment in history we have 50 million americans in poverty. nearly 50 million americans on food stamps the lowest labor participation rate since the 1970s. i want you to connected to immigration. shouldn't americans have shouldn't americans have the opportunity for those opportunity for those jobs first? you say go to the back of the line. but if they go to the back of the line they get to stay here and compete for the jobs that are available. >> here's the deal. you either believe the pie is static. that's the left point of view. and therefore we are splitting up. someone's benefit is someone else's detriment. i believe we should grow the economic pie and grow it at a rate that looks more like the '80s in america. growing it closer to 4% not 2%. if we stay at this rate your argument is valid. but if we grow at 4% there's

going to be opportunities for all. it's not a zero-sum game. it's not how republicans and conservatives think. we don't think it's all about the government divvying it up to get our crumbs. we should pursue our dreams as we see fit and the more that do it, the more economic growth will take place for all of us. >> as governor do you stand by the decision driver's licenses for -- >> it didn't happen. >> you tried. and the other decision about in-state tuition. >> i do. in fact that was the -- the in-state tuition was passed this year. >> all rig >> all right. >> by one of the most conservative state legislatures and a conservative governor signed into law this last year. >> let me ask you, the second biggest issue -- >> not by me. >> that always comes up the issue of common core. it was interesting. i didn't know until i was

researching you were the first governor to institute vouchers in the country. it was overruled by the supreme court of florida. you were the first to allow a voucher system. i want you to address the common core issue. >> the high standards by themselves aren't meaningful. they're helpful and better than lower standards. but if there is no accountability or consequence between mediocrity and failure or excellence then the system won't move forward. we did have the state-wide voucher program and more school choice in florida public and private than any state in the country and the largest virtual school. we we have the largest corporate tax dollar deferred program. we have 30,000 students that if their child has a learning disability they can take the

state and local dollars and send them to the school of their choice. we we eliminated social promotion in third grade. we did all this and raised standards. and our and our standards have to be high enough where a student going through our system is college or career ready. and that's not what's happening right now. >> is common core a federal takeover? >> no. and it shouldn't be. here's where i think conservatives and myself are deeply concerned with this president and this department of education. there's a there's a risk that they will intrude and they have as it concerns the race to the top. what we should say in the reauthorization of the case 12 law that may have been on the floor in the house of representatives to say is that the federal government has no role in creation of standards directly or indirectly. the federal government has no role in the creation of curriculum and content or have any access to student i.d. or

information. the role of the the role of the federal government, if there is government, if there is any, is to provide incentives for more school choice. take the title i money and the i.d.e.a. money and if the states want to innovate give them the money to create their own programs. >> when we com >> when we come back we'll have more with jeb bush and check in with marco rubio, donald trump and rick perry as we come hey! i like your ride. i just wanted to let you know... you can save a ton by switching to progressive, just like squirrel here. we offer great discounts like responsible rider paid in full, and homeowners. making us number one in motorcycle insurance. isn't this romantic. it was. going the distance to save you more. now, that's progressive.

welcome back to hannity as we continue from cpac. this is my sit down interview on the main stage with former governor, jeb bush. >> i mentioned candidates. some people when i mentioned your name i'm to give you a

chance to talk about your record directly. >> for those that made an ooh sound, i am marking them down as neutral and want to be your second choice. this is a record that may be hard for people to imagine. taking conservative principles and to say i believe we should cut spending and believe we needed to take on the trial bar and all of the things we did. we created a world class business climate. 1.3 million net new jobs were created. don't tell rick perry, but more than texas. i left with 3% unemployment rate. our economy grew by like 3.9% when the rest of the country

grew at 2.6%. we reformed our education system. not just the fight that mattered. we have led the country in rising student achievement. kids in poverty are the leaders in florida outperforming all of their peers in most of the category in other places. florida is a place where conservative helped everybody. we eliminated affirmative action. i know there are people that come here to talk about the coverage of courage of their efforts. we had a system where there are more african-american and hispanic kids attending our university systems prior than to the system that was sdrimdiskrim torre. i left the state with $9.5 billion of reserves.

we did veto 2,500 line item in the budget totaling $2 billion. we left $9 billion plus of cash for a rainy day and had the financial meltdown. conservatives need to cut taxes so more revenue comes in people's pockets. >> you think you can lower taxes with $18.1 trillion in debt? >> you can lower taxes than any of the tax plans barack obama has. yes, sir, i believe. that . >> let me ask national security, national defense. your brother predicted what would happen if we left iraq too

early. now we have isis. people being beheaded, burned to death. my question is what would you do if you were the commander in chief to defeat isis? >> mitt romney was right about putin. and mitt romney was right about a lot of things about not having a strong military. our position needs to be reengage with a strong military and strong presence. as we pull back, voids are filled. we need to reestablish relationships we managed to mess up. egypt. we got it wrong three times in a row. jordan, the king comes asking for support.

i haven't heard anything. israel turkey. we need to build a coalition to isolate and put isis around a noose and take them out. >> that has to be done with american leadership. i like the idea about pushing and creating a safe zone for the creation of a free syrian army, which we should have done three years ago. the idea of not putting conditions of boots on the ground so that we can have the intelligence and special forces capabilities to make a difference. i like the ideas. all require reengaging with the neighborhood to consider it a high priority to be able to participate in this. the negotiations with iran make it far more complicated, tripping over finding a deal

creating an unsafe world and relegitimateng the iotola. >> the people in iran that threatened to wipe israel off the map will be allowed to enrich uranium. what would you sty any deal that was struck? >> i hope they require it go back for approval in the congress. so the next president is not forced to undo that. but we need to be clear there should be no like between us and israel and other discussions as it relate to iran need to include their strategy of using

surrogates to destabilize the region. simply focusing on whether or not iran has a weapon. now we are go to regulate it? that is bad policy. >> what is your reaction to a president that can't acknowledge radical islam? >> that it is all about economic uncertainty. >> the one identified in london was a college graduate. total misunderstanding of this islamic threat. we need to be honest about it. that is why the prime minister's visit really will be important. >> i have to wrap up in a

minute. i asked every other candidate i had an opportunity to interview. that was not the question. the top five -- i will leave that for nbc news. the top five agenda. if you become president what are your top five priorities? >> undoing by executive order what the president has done using authority he doesn't have. allowing for investment to take place in our country. allow to see inversions happen the other way. >> i am go to do the lightning round. before i do that a lot has been

written. you used to have a license plate that says choose life. >> we were the first state to have a choose life license plate that helped with crisis pregnancy centers around the country and around the state. i am pro-life. i also believe the most vulnerable in our society need to be protected. here was a woman that was vulnerable. and the court, because of our laws, didn't allow her. they were going to allow her to be starved to death. we past terry's law. it was passed unconstitutional. i act on my core belief that the most vulnerable should be in the front of the line. that is exactly what i did. >> there was an indication in an article today gay marriage. >> i believe in traditional marriage. >> okay. there are numerous reports that you are telling people privately

that you are a moderate. i describe myself as a reagan constitutional conservative. >> as a practicing, reform minded conservative. that i have actually done it. >> marijuana in colorado legalization good or bad idea? >> i thought it was a bad idea but states ought to have the right to do it. >> i am go to mention a few things. we have gotten interesting answers on this question. hillary clinton. >> foreign fundraising. word association? >> kind of. you did good. >> how did that work? >> okay. bill clinton. >> bubba. >> all right. that is pretty funny. i do an impression. i want to say hi to the cute chick in the back there. i know. stay away from the radio and tv

talk hosts. barack obama. >> failed president. failed president. >> you know there has been such a dig debate about the issue of american exceptionism. do you believe america is exceptional and why do you love the country enough that you will go through the difficult and he trials and tribulations of running for office? >> i do believe in america exceptional. i am the kpiermchairman of a museum in philadelphia, i fell in love with the constitution being there in its presence. this president has trampled over the constitution. put aside whether or not you like his believes. i imagine nobody in this room does. the fact that he is disrespecting our history and the extraordinary nature of our country by doing what he has done is deeply disturb to me.

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kentucky senator rand paul winning the cpac straw poll with 26% of the votes. wisconsin governor scott walker finishing second followed by ted cruz, dr. ben carson and former florida governor jeb bush. around 3,000 people voted. nearly half between the ages of 18 and 25.

cpac is the country's largest annual gathering of conservative activists. meantime steps have been taken to improve the tracking of planes over remote oceans allowing them to be more easily found if they disappear. the effort led by australia, indonesia and malaysia coming almost a year after the disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370. that plane has yet to be found. the new method would use satellite technology to track planes every 15 instead of every 30 to 40 minutes. i'm jackie ibanez. >> welcome back. earlier on the main stage i had an opportunity sit down and discuss issues with marco rubio. i love your family story. >> thank you. >> that is the american story. here is where we are now. and this breaks my heart and the heart of everybody in the room. nearly 50 million americans in poverty and on food stamps 92

million not working. 18.1 trillion in debt and unfunded liabilities. how do we dig ourselves out of that hole? >> we are basically having the industrial revolution every five years and the leaders are stuck in yesterday. if we pour more of your money into the famed programs that did not work that well in the past, it will get us out of this. globalization is real. we are in competition with dozens of other countries. unless we get rid of obamacare, balance the budget and utilize our manager portfolio, we can't compete. if we do those things we can compete with anyone in the world. we need to help our people be stronger than ever.

allowing parents to choose the school their kids go to. not having a national school board. >> i will put you down for common core. >> we need to understand that some of the best jobs require more than traditional high school and less than four years of college. we shouldn't be stigmall stigmatizing voekzal -- vocational careers. the four-year degree is still important. i owed over $100,000 in student loans. we have people graduating with a

four-year degree that does not lead to jobs. >> let me ask you about immigration. you went forward with your immigration proposal and at the end of the day you said it did not work. i tried. it is not go to work. and you were, last time i interviewed you on radio you said you regretted going forward and thought you made a mistake. >> it wasn't popular. it is a serious problem that has to be confronted. we don't have a verified system. we don't know who they are. we have to put that in place. there are three sectors of the border, one in particular, that are completely insecure. needs more fencing and patrols. that has to be done. we have a legal immigration

system that is the most generous in the world. a million people in the world come here legally it. can't be based on family alone. it has to be based on merit and economic contribution. that has to be dealt with as well. and yeah, you have 10 million people in the country who have lived here for longer than a decade and haven't violated the law it is. you can't have a conversation about that until believe and know future immigration will be brought under control. >> this is our lightning round. abortion. >> i am pro-life. that is simple as that. >> gay marriage. >> i believe a marriage is between one man and one woman. it served our people well. >> colorado marijuana

legalization. >> i am against the legalization of marijuana. >> should every law-abiding american have the rights to carry a weapon? >> absolutely. the only people that don't care about gun laws are criminals. >> i am go to throw out names to you. hillary clinton. >> yesterday. >> bill clinton. >> next one. >> really yesterday. >> barack obama. >> failed. >> last question. you talked about your love for america and how we all really receive so much more than we could ever pay back. explain, if you believe in american exceptionism and why. >> i don't know if people realize but every society in human history your future is decided by what your parents did

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>> welcome back to hannity. earlier i had an opportunity sit down with the one and only donald trump is. he running for president? we had a opportunity talk. >> 50 million americans in poverty. 50 million americans on food stamps. 92 million americans not working. we don't count them but they are not working.

>> we don't count them. they say 5.3 and 5.6%. i think it is over. >> how would donald trump get these people back to work? >> you have to take the jobs back from china. you have to take the jobs back from mexico. companies are leaving for mexico. they have an incentive to go to mexico. mexico is the next china. mexico is not our friend. i am not just talking about the border. mexico is ripping off the united states big lean. we have lost our manufacturing base. >> what would you do to stop iran's nuclear program and to defeat isis.

>> with isis i would hit them really hard. a year ago you would not have said it. nobody would have liked. but you may have to have boots on the ground for a period of time until you get rid of the cancer. they are cutting off the heads of people and burning people at the stake. with iran, sanctions all over the place. believe me you can make the right deal with the right negotiator. we have people that are diplomats doing negotiations. all they know how to do is keep their job. if we had the right people we could solve the isis problem and we could solve the iran problem and a lot more quickly than you think. >> there are so many young people in this room. obama, by the time he leaves office, will have accumulated more debt than ever other

president combined. how would you say about how president trump could balance the budget? >> i understand business better than anybody ever had in office. i know how to get rid of debt. i would get rid of that debt and do it quickly. it is a time bomb for this country. >> specifically though. this is important. i like the penny plan. cut a penny out of every dollar. >> i like making the country rich again taking in tremendous amounts of money. stopping china from ripping us and cutting costs. but not cutting them when it comes to the military or social security. >> the american dream worked in your life and your family's life. now we are talking about american exceptionism. what makes america exceptional

and why do you love this country and want to be its commander in chief? >> they have phenomenal people. we have so much going. we need the incentives. we can't take away those incentives. we have a country that can be so great again and will be admired by everybody. right now if is not admired by other countries. they talk to me sean. chinese. they are friends of mine. they say i can't believe we are getting away with this. in saudi arabia they say we can't believe we are getting away with this. i have nothing against china. their leaders are just smarter than us. if we keep the incentives going the potential of the united states is so incredible if we do it properly and have smart, really smart leadership. >> when we come back tonight on

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i got to talk to rick perry. >> the top five things you want to accomplish out of the box? >> obviously the economic side of this is where you have to go first. you get the economics headed in the right direction. lower the corporate tax rate. not only does it give a clear incentive to invest in the united states or bring back that manufacturing that moved offshore but raises the wages for the workers. not just about the ceo and stockholder. about that blue collar worker that sees the jobs and wages going up in those jobs. >> obama basically accumulated as much debt as every president before him. >> we need to cut the spending and do it. we had two major downturns. 2003. eye 27 billion in 2011.

we did it without raising taxes. americans want to see that to walk in saying we are go to cut the spending and do this. >> abortion. >> i am pro-life and proud of it. >> gay marriage. >> traditional marriage. i believe in it. i think absolutely the states need to decide these issues. the idea we are a one size fits all whether it is health care or curriculum from the schools, it needs to be decided by the states. federal government needs to defend the border, everything else states. >> colorado pot. >> it say bad idea but it is their call. the old liberal supreme court

justice said the states are the laboratories of democracy and need to experiment. from time to time they will make a bad decision. >> should every law-abiding american have a right to carry a gun? >> it is the second amendment. if a state wants to have the conversation about where and what have you, but they should actualitily have the right in general, in principle? >> second amendment is clear about that. >> what makes america exceptional in your mind? >> we are a country of volunteers. we give back. i do not see that in any of these other countries i had the great privilege to live in. the volunteerism. where they found themselves because somebody came before and sacrificed for them. >> when we come ah! come on! let's hide in the attic.

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>> that is all the time we have from this even this is a fox news alert. i am joleen kent. reaction is pouring in from around the world as news hits that greg gutfeld is leaving fox newschannel. the announcement came on thursday that the last time on the show would be tonight and now images of spontaneous celebrations from across the globe are flooding into the fox newsroom. people gathering to mark the end of an era and the beginning of a new one. this is a fox news alert. now back to "red eye" back in progress. >> she is a jerk. we begin with a rather sad announcement. sad for you. awesome for me. i am leaving "red eye." i know, i know. what are you going to do without me? it is a good question. what are you gonna