geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. jesse? . i'll see you tomorrow on the fox business ne >>n >> on the buzz beater, a bomb shali on hillary clinton using only a private e-mail account as secretary of state triggers an uproar and media commentators ripping the undeclared democratic chan date. >> if it is true she never used a state department e-mail address we have something that at first read has no conceivable rational explanation that is legitimate. >> it is kind of a dumb move on hillary clinton's part because surely she knew this would come out at some point in time. >> why has the story struck such a nerve? is she is in much political and legal trouble as the news

organizations are making? and this this is narrative she does not play bit rules? >> time calls him the most interesting man in politics but rand paul gets bad press and loses his cool with the journalists. >> i am human. i get mad. i tried to be even keel but like everyone else there are interviews i would do differently. >> a conversation with a likely presidential contender but whether he is deliberately provocative and why the media try to link him to his popular. >> why is the coverage of binyamin netanyahu as polarizing as the debate? how vital is the media roll now as in selma and with ferguson and how is it different today? i am howard kurtz and this is "media buzz."

>> from the moment "new york times" broke the news that hillary clinton did her state department business from private e-mail account, the m )p coverage has exploded including the newscasts. >> tonight she is underfire for using only her private e-mail accounts in the public role of secretary of state. critics say it was wrong. they reveal the height of carelessness and only a few can reach a leader using private e-mail protects herself but not her country? >> liberals played defense noting the disclosure of the failure to establish a government e-mail account stems from requests from the house house committee getting the consulate in libya. allow do we turn back a benghazi witch hunt part two? this plays into the hands of the clinton haters. >> the house of representatives subpoenaed the e-mails which she

said she wanted released. we have ed henry the chief white house correspondent for fox and mercedes mercedes schlapp, and michael tomasky, columnist for "daily beast." you have been pressing all week about the e-mails and here is a look. >> mr. president, when did you learn that hillary clinton used an e-mail system out of the u.s. government for official business while secretary of state? >> the same time that everyone else learned through the news reports. >> do you see white house distancing going on? >> somewhat. early in the week they were sort of defending her by saying they did not necessarily see anything wrong. >> sort of. sort of. >> we can get into that but the president's response as i learn from news reports like the e-mails of lois lerner but the

question was good that was asked: were there two sets of rule one for the clintons and another for everyone else. that is the bottom line and why the coverage has been intense. other cabinet secretaries, sure, they have personal e-mail accounts but they have official, too. she had personal, only, for four years and no one in the white house was e-mailed about this saying, wait the rest of us have this. >> the media is left and right and center treating this as a big scandal. does it deserve the coverage it is getting? >> it is started off as an inside the beltway story with the "washington post" and "new york times" and even if you worked at the white house you knew better to use personal e-mails for government business. however, the story has legs because the media is hungry for answers and want to know were they deleted? why did she we violate what it

said in the manual of making sure not to use personal e-mail for conducting government business? this can keep exploding, especially if hillary clinton continues to keep her head under the pillow and decide not to respond. >> unanswered question...michael tomasky you raised questions about the original "new york times" story. >> that was sloppy leaving out key states and facts of what the rules and regulations and laws she may have been in violation of. "new york times" acknowledged that because they did a second story clarifying the points after i and others including "politico" wrote an article questioning this. >> to be clear there is no dispute when hillary clinton took office in 2009 you were to preserve all e-mail records and she did but, who knows, it is on

the private home server. >> correct in 2009 there was a national archives record administration rule that called for preserving. that is the question. another fair question is, whether any classified information was put out over a private e-mail account and what implications there are. >> and there are two different classifying systems one that is more classified system. this is much more sensitive information and on the open system where she used her private account including benghazi and syria and the russian reset and important information putting aside possible scandals do fought rush to agree. get the facts but she kept this to herself. >> she is in control of the server and the fact that we go back to the question going by

separate rules and she was -- there have not been a lost answers. >> you say in the same story that "new yorç times" has never loved the clintons going back to whitewater in 1992 and it was run by different people. are you saying the newsroom of "new york times", often accused of being unfair to republicans is bias. >> this is not a conspiracy not like the former executive editors are on the phone with the executive editor and cooking something up but it plays into at the pa eastern that exists. i am not saying why, but it has been reasonably documented to most people's satisfaction that original whitewater story in 1992 did not hold up in a lost the particulars. >> not unless hillary clinton gave a lot of fodder and regardless that rules were clarified after she left office she pushed out one of her

arches, the ambassador to kenya in part because he used personal e-mail for personal business. that is a double standard. >> it is sloppy and a little bit...not giving hinge hick the benefit of the doubt where have the networks covered this three nights and all over cnn. >> hillary clinton is stonewalling the media and not giving answers so they push forward. margaret sullivan agencied the story you wrote and saying they were sloppy in not providing regulations and chairing why she may have possibly broken the rules. >> as much coverage as this has gotten are they going easy on her, with interesting comments on msnbc by the morning co-host, what if it wasn't hillary

clinton. >> can you imagine if this is stick cheney with a server in virginia? >> my lord! i would go crazy. i would be off the hook and i am trying to...sometimes a little bit of bias sneaks in. this is wrong. she is being honest. i credit her. i cover the bush white house and you were there, if at the height of the bush energy task force, there was not a lost transparency and there was a lot of secrecy around dick cheney and? we learned there was another e-mail account that he has a different account and he was communicating with oil executives about energy policy every media outlet would be going crazy and rightly so.

>> but everyone has been relay this clip of hillary clinton talking about secrecy at the white house so there is hypocrisy there about karl rove and where he was, there were separate rnc accounts e-mail accounts, for the republican national committee that were used for political fund raising to keep it separate from official but there were allegations that were proven that bush officials were using the other accounts to do official business. that has been there before that republicans were doing this. >> you brought up whitewater but it was under 40 people that knew, when hillary clinton was first lady there were so many questions around her she held a press conference that was called a "pink press conference," and answered questions for 70 minutes about whitewater and travel gates and cattle futures

where she made $100,000 on $1,000 investment. do you think the press from those days still has the their of hillary clinton it is pushing, she is unthat likes the secrecy and doesn't play by the usual rules? >> to some extent it is justified. i don't think it is justified to the complete estimate. at the love that did not turnout to be much. it is justified, though, and i wrote that on friday in a follow-up pieces, her judgment on the smell test things is not right. >> we talked about this. >> and sources are quoted saying they are betting her team be move on because the media will be bored. >> i don't think so. the media want the answers. you have seen several articles

that have come out and there are 20 questions they want her to answer. >> thing of the clinton foundation, the week before, ethics rules set up by the obama white house with incoming secretary of state hillary clinton about foreign government not giving money to the clinton foundation and bill clinton said get i out there. well, it wasn't out there so they can talk about transparency but that is another problem. it is not just the e-mail and the back-to-back nature of the stories. >> it is not true that known has asked her about it but there was a news organization that managed to throw a question at her, tmz. take a listen. >> how you. hillary clinton was the mail a johnization gap or can it be corrected? any chance to correct it? >> nice try there at reagan national airport but generalization was a lame

question. i need a break. send me a tweet we on what you thing of the media handling of the hillary clinton story and e-mail us at media buzz. stay tuned. edia as he gears up for a presidential run. but when we come back, the coverage around netanyahu and barack obama over the prime minister's speech.

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netanyahu delivered a message to the house of representatives. >> this is a bad deal. a very bad deal. >> we begin with the attempt of binyamin netanyahu to derail president obama's foreign policy. >> obama is desperate for this deal for his legacy, that he is willing to give israel up. face it, if israel disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow, obama would not shed a tear. >> that is not happening in a vacuum. is in white house anti-semitic? >> what was it like dealing with the white house that was pushing back against netanyahu's speech day after day and did that push back make it a bigger story? >> there was a lot of noise on all sides and i will not get into the middle of that but i will say that not enough attention by the media at large

was focused on the deal that is emerging, the substance is ultimately what matters. from my reporting this president and this prime minister have a better relationship that we see publicly and the prime minister binyamin netanyahu agencied that at the top of the speech they are on the phone all the time and beyond the support of iron dome. >> all the coverage, you think that we covered more of the political posturing? >> because it was a fight. it was legitimate to cover. speaker boehner went around the white house, there was politics there, no doubt. that was worth covering. >> at the heart of this is what we will do in iran. >> there is a dispute there. i am not sweeping under the carpet there is bad blood between the white house and the prime minister. no doubt. however, we should focus, are we giving the store away and iran getting closer to getting nuclear weapons? the white house pushes back hard on that and said they will get a good deal. >> mike, are some going too far

questioning whether president obama cares about israel? or whether the white house is bias? >> that is one step too far. in general, the coverage of this was so polarized because the response among the politicians was polarized. i was shocked to hear the democrats have the reactions they had including senator feinstein who said netanyahu wants war. >> are you saying that media were taking the cue from the fiery overheated rhetoric? don't we make up our own minds? >> people do take cues, subtle cues psychological cues from the politicians especially on an issue this divisive and with the cage networks decided in the spectrum they are. >> if this were nancy lows as house speaker and she inviteed share ron to give the speech

over president bush's observations you would go bliss dick? >> it would be difficult for the president not to include the invitation of the prime minister coming in. the media enjoys telling the story of the food fight happening in congress. and following the triangle between speaker boehner and prime minister binyamin netanyahu and president obama. >> was the news coverage fair? >> i don't think it was a fair job at the netanyahu speech and airing 9 dirty laundry of the democrats boycotting and president obama gave the remarks after. i believe they gave both sides and it was unfortunate they went too far. >> the last one was important because the white house said, there is nothing to see. president has another important teleconference going on about

ukraine that could be destructive. there is nothing to see. after the speech, they realized netanyahu really scoreed some points in the sense that he ripped up this potential deal, not even a deal and they realized that and the president came out saying he is not watching or paying attention, there is nothing new and he came out and point by point had counter points because they felt they had to respond. >> thanks all for joining us this sunday. ahead, i ask rand paul about the incident where he was ticked off and tried to shush an anchor. >> how has the media coveratt of civil rights changes since selma? coverage of civil rights changed since then. (woman) the constipation and belly pain feel like a knot.

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president obama along with george w. bush was in selma yesterday for the 50th anniversary of the bloody sunday march that violent turning point in which journalists played such a critical role. >> americans who crossed this bridge, they were not physically imposing. but they gave courage to millions. >> commemoration happened in the same week that the justice department decided not to bring civil rights charges against darren wilson in the killing of michael brown but issued a scathing report about racial prejudice in the ferguson police department. so how has the coverage evolved since 1965? joining us now from seattle crystal wright and in new york, julie roginsky. crystal, it was journalists covering selma and other civil rights battles of that cera who bricked the country's conscious.

does that story loom large for you? >> absolutely. my parents grew up in the segregated south in richmond, virginia. and they experienced a lot of what we know happened in selma. but what strikes me about what happened 50 years ago, the role the media played then, was really critical. the march on selma was one of the few times in the civil rights fight, if you will, that a news program interrupted one of its tv networks interrupted and americans of all colors watched in horror as bck people were treated like animals, they were killed, they were whipped, chased by police on horses. it was just awful. but take when i reflect back on that and then i fast forward to today, i think the role of the media is to stoke racial divide. it's not to highlight as much -- right now -- >> let me come back to today. i want to get julie in on what

happened at selma in that era. so the national press now is viewed as having played a courageous role in covering those protests which on which more were often more violent. but at the time many segregations in the south railed against the liberal media. >> nothing much has changed. you have people using the media as their whipping boy to advance their own political view points. you certainly saw that over the big news events over the last week.points. you certainly saw that over the big news events over the last week. so i think that continues to be the case. the difference today of course is that we have many more media outlets with many more diverse viewpoints. back then, you had the big three and that's pretty much it p. and certainly big news papers. today you have the fox news channel, msnbc, cnn, blogs, everybody has an opinion. >> and not only that but most news outlets this 1965 had no

black reporters. p a lot more diverseity in the business today. so we go selma to eric holder announcing that there would be no charges against officer wilson in michael brown's death. a case that many in the recent turned into a cause celeb, hands up don't shoot according to obama administration was not true. so you're contrasting the unity of the press and role it played in 1965 with what you see as the divisiveness today? >> well i think as you and julie pointed out in 1965, we had zero diversity in the press and it was really the black journal i.s were the only ones putting a spotlight 00 civil rights. that's where people were able black americans specifically were able to get news with the civil rights movement. whereas today, you know, i think we have a diverse press corps. we have julie pointed that out everybody will have an opinion about what is the civil rights

movement today. what is it really. but to me i think what happened in ferguson became a narrative for president obama and democrats particularly to distort really what is causing more black americans to be engaged in violent crime. now, i'm not saying that -- i think we all knew darren wilson wasn't going to be charged with violating michael brown's civil rights because the sam thing happened happen same thing happened in the trayvon martin case. are you going to have racist journalists like you have racist people is this of course.martin case. are you going to have racist journalists like you have racist people is this of course. i think if you had an all black police force a lot of the things in that report would still occur because young black men in america the reality is are committing more violent crime. and i think that's -- >> let me get jewly in lyjulie in. some of those racist e-mails

were blood curdling. with a do you think what do you think about the immediate are a playing a divisive role? >> the goal is obviously to smoke debate and obviously to stoke a potential view point. ferguson is a very good example. you had all the major channels covering ferguson. it was saturated wall to wall. but certainly some people had one you viewpoint on it other people were pushing a different viewpoint and i think that's the difference. you do have that diversity of opinion and diversity of viewpoint although you still do cover civil rights incredibly extensively. >> i love that we have diversity of viewpoints. i'd also like journalists to stick to some of the facts. crystal wright and julie roginsky thanks very much for joining us today.

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rand paul isn't shy about mixing it up with the media. he has the scars to show it. as he gears up for a presidential campaign i sat down with him at cpac in maryland. senator "time" magazine calls you the most interesting man in politics. is the media fair to you? >> i think in order to be the most interesting, you sometimes have to be provocative so you get it from all barrels. and you're not really over the target unless you're receiving

flack. i tend to say what i think. i tend not to -- >> sugarcoat it? >> i don't sugarcoat it too much. sometimes i try, but it doesn't work. a lot of people rise up in politics from never offending anyone and their skill is in being bland. and i was in a position for 20 years, i just sort of look at the problem and try to figure out a solution and sometimes not everybody agrees with me. >> you've been aggressive against some of the potential 2016 candidates. crist chris chris christie being a bully. is there more of the guaranteed rand paul attacks fellow republican? >> i don't know. i think that the reason i do collect headline, really from the moment i ran, i don't know if that is luck or skill, i don't tend to be provocative

just to be provocative. i truly think it is hypocritical for someone who used mayorrijuana as a kid is for harsh penalties for people who do it. rich white kids aren't getting snatched up, it's poor black kid, poor hispanic kids poor white kids, they're the ones serving prison sentence. >> "washington post" had a big piece daddy issues are a problem for his son's, indicate i curekatie occurcouric has asked about it. >> and there could be a bush problem. there could be a clinton problem. and so there are several people who could possibly run who are associated with other famous people who have had their issues. but i think ultimately people aren't voting for a family or against a family, they're voting for the individual. and in my senate race,cessful to beat

an establishment candidate. >> and the question is about ron paul fair to the point that you share a well-known last name you have access to a fundraising network. >> it's always fair to ask about an issue and if people want to emphasize how the issue either agrees or disagrees with a member of your family so be it. but frankly if i have to go 20 minutes and you ask me to go through every issue i agree or disagree with my dad i don't think it's that entertaining and i'll probably just answer what i'm for. and people can make their judgment. but not everybody agrees with their parents on every issue and everybody is a distinct individual. you probably don't agree with your parents. >> i will not argue with you on that one. do you need to develop a thicker skin? you had a testy interview with kelly evans. i found her tone to be condescending, but you got a lot of flack for shushing her. >> hey, kelly, ssh. calm down a bit. p. >> yeah i did learn you're not

supposed to shush people. and a lot of people don't realize, you and i are doing this in the same room which makes for a better interview. but 95%, we're staring to a camera. i can see when you're getting ready to talk, you can see when i'm getting ready to talk and we try to be polite enough. but on tv when you're looking at a camera, it gets frustrating not the to butt in. >> you also betray impatience. >> and i think some people are very good. there are people on television channels who i have no idea what their political bias or background is. they're objective, good, and hardcore. but they don't ask questions that really are simply you can tell are targeted from your political opponents and i'm going to ask him something just to make him mad. but i'm human. i get mad sometimes. and i try to be as even keeled

as i can, but sometimes like everybody else, there are interviews that i would have done differently. >> i think people to like human candidates as opposed to the alternative. you wrote shall pundits are surprised that i support destroying isis. you've expressed reservations about military in the middle east. does the press hold you you as an items lagssolationist? >> i think they will try to characterize your position, you will have to present it and then can it be mischaracterized. i think it is mischaractersized because the way i look at foreign policy there is a spectrum from where nowhere any of the time to where everywhere all the time. i've been mainly complaining that we're everywhere. every civil war, sometimes with unintended consequences. so hillary's war in libya i think led to chaos and mourad cal islam and made us less safe. >> hillary's war. when she was secretary of state.

>> yes about that. she was a bigged a company advocate of it. >> you spoke about income inequality, lagging wages, black unemployment, you've been to ferguson. are the media surprised that a republican has taken on these kind of issues? >> yeah and i think it's been long overdue. before cpac, i'll talk about there being two americas. one that is treated fairly and another that is not treated fairly. i think criminal justice is not racist. i don't think it's countrydone purposely. but the outcome has had as can proportionate him pact on minorities. >> a little bit unusual for most republicans. >> i was at the white house yesterday and we had half republicans, half democratsu few younger republicans saying the same thing i am. >> you've got on bill maher

msnbc, what do you get out of that? >> i think you want to try to get to new people. if you want your party to be big bill maher has 4 million listeners who maybe a few aren't watching fox news. msnbc has an audience that isn't watching fox either. >> do you think you'll be talking to rachel madmaddow? >> there are certain rules that we have to develop over time and that might be one of them. >> which is? >> not to do that again. our hope is when we go on, they are independent minded. i'm find if they're log sif. but if it's just simply partisanship just to be partisan the problem be in washington is empty partisanship. >> finally, you were on fox news quite a bit as a guest. how helpful is that raising your profile potentially for 2016? >> i think have a ordinarily helpful and i think also the emergence of fox news has allowed there to be a conservative viewpoint. when i was a kid, they were

three nedtworks and they were all liberal. and now things are much more balanced. i still get the question the libya media. and i say it's so much better than it ever was about before.media. and i say it's so much better than it ever was about before. you look at fogs'sx's numbers and they dwarf the other networks. so i think there is an opportunity for a variety of opinions. all of these are out there. and i think it's been very helpful. p. >> senator paul, thanks very much for sitting down with me. >> thank you. next on "#mediabuzz," ben carson complains that cnn edited an interview in which he made highly controversial comments about why people are gay. we'll take a look in our video verdict.

>> this is not the same situation as slavery. people have no control over their race, for instance. >> you think they have control over their sexuality? >> absolutely. >> you think being gay is a choice? >> absolutely. a lot of people who go into

prison go into prison straight and they come out they are gay. did something happen while they were in there? >> there is a theory of dominance. >> i said "a lot of people," and are you denying that is true? >> i am not denying it is true but that is part of the understanding of homosexuality. >> he was not badgering him or showing off but carson took the question about constitution and state rights and went to the question of choice on homosexuality and the american psychological association does not agree. carson was not happy and called to sean hannity. eight was a 25 minute interview and you see what they emphasized. i learned very important, for certain networks, never do a pre-taped interview. always do it live. >> there was zero editing on the

part you safe the gay discussion. cuomo said of seven minutes of the 25 minute interview were used including other topics, isis and iran and health care the rest was posted online and carson knew it would not all be used but carson, it is interesting felt the need to apologize. >> i do not know how every individual came to their sexual orientation and i regret my words of hurtful. i apologize for that are to all who were offended. >> he got into trouble here, but he did it to himself. >> more on anchors and presidential candidates go toe to toe with scott walker admit he flip glopped on immigration and chris matthews has another trick up his leg. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason?

it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda.

now for more on questions about journalism. whenchr acewn >> when chris wallace sat down with scott walker, walker was shown a tapeed interview envision oning a world where? people paid a penalty, they would have a path to citizenship and you said sure. >> i have to say you have to secure the border or no plans make sense. >> it and a little bit slippery here. back when you were the milwaukee county executive you actually supported the kennedy and john mccain comprehensive immigration plan. are you saying as part of a comprehensive plan tough enforcement, e verify the 11

million we here pay penalty and get citizenship. >> i am not talking amnesty. >> you said you supported it. >> my view has changed. >> chris wallace hat the facts scott walker said this and he had the videotape and research is the key here anding northeast have a long enough interview to get a politician off the talking points. that is not gotcha journalist but accountability. >> chris matthews has disclosure. >> it is important to be as transparent as possible with you, loyal viewers, a long time local anchor is running for a house seat in maryland as a democrat. >> she has been involved with public issues from anchoring and serving as a top executive at marriott and her commitment is deep and in our four decades together we have always had the strongest beliefs together and

values and i am proud of my wife and support her. >> that wasn't a disclosure but a campaign ad and of course crisp support his wife but he can do the campaigning off camera. still to come your top speed and what martin luther king said about the media role in covering selma and a big time shakeup at nbc news.

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a major shakeup at nbc in the brian williams suspension. the company is bringing back andrew lack who ran nbc in the 90s. he will run it for the today's show and meet the press and nsnbc. he will have to rebuild nightly news whether williams returns or not. time for your top tweets. are the media being too hard or

soft on hillary clinton over the media mess. all media ask her her staff state department hacks if he deleted any e-mails or if we would ever be able to know. lifrds giz zard. don't think it's a big deal. no necessary to nitpick. >> when journalists covered the civil rights movement. several journalists were badly beaten as we mentioned earlier. one news man that was there was cbs bill plan. >> leaders know the ballot is one of their most effective messages and 3467. >> reporter: i still have all of the scripts that i wrote in those days. on that afternoon the standup i did said they want their freedom. >> and that they want it now.

>> one night in february he tried to film a small demonstration. >> white bystanders harassed us, cursing us and blaming the press as the cause of the demonstration. >> the media didn't cause the protests but martin luther king noted their roll. king had words with a life magazine photographer who stopped taking pictures and tried to intervene when a gang of man shoved children to the ground. he said the world doesn't know this happened because you didn't photograph it. it is so much important for you to take a picture of us getting beaten up than for you to be another person joining in the fray. interesting echo of what happened 50 years ago in selma, alabama. that's it for this edition of media buzz. we hope you like our facebook page. we post a lot of original con at the present time there. we have your buzz. i respond on video to your questions. you can also e-mail us any time. media buzz at fox news.com.

more on the media next week and more on your questions and more of the latest buzz it is. my home state, florida. have fun. see you next weekend. i'm chris wallace. hillary clinton on her way to the democratic presidential nomination. or is she? >> don't you some day want to see a woman president of the united states of america? >> don't you some day want to see a woman president of the united states of america? >> a new firestorm over hen hick using a private e-mail account as secretary of state. >> we discovered last night we cannot produce all of her e-mails because they do not have all of her e-mails. we will discuss the fallout with mike huckabee a clinton credit since his days after governor of arkansas and lanny davis. >> united states moves forward with iran nuclear talks. despite warnings