>> it takes 90 rounds to cook the bacon. >> that is not sizzling. let's go to studio j and "america's newsroom." bill: thank you guys. awaiting a news conference in ferguson missouri. two police officers shot outside the department midnight last night. you are about to see cell phone video when the shots were fired. after that it was chaos in the moments that followed. now a manhunt underway for the shooter in the tinder box that is ferguson, missouri. good morning everybody, i'm bill hemmer. martha: i'm martha maccallum. we'll go there at 10:00 a.m.

eastern. we'll get the latest on the condition of these two police officers. protesters began gathering a little after 10:00. the city's police chief resigned yesterday next wake of that scathing doj report. there had been a lot of pressure on him to do that. that report cleared officer darren wilson in the death of michael brown. but it found there was bias that existed in the police department there. bill: what was a peaceful demonstration turned violent after police officers were the target. >> we have seen in law enforcement that this is a very, very dangerous environment for the police officers to work in. these police officers were standing there and they were shot just because they were police officers. bill: the suspect or suspects still at large this morning. noles officers are in the hospital. how are they doing what's their

condition there? >> reporter: we are hearing they are in serious condition but they are conscious and expected to survive. it was just after midnight, the protests appeared to be wrapping up information the night when at least 3 shots per fired at a group of officers standing in front of the ferguson police department. one officer was hit in the shoulder another hit in the face. you can see one of the officers examining one of their helmets splattered with blood. the shots came from a side street which made identifying the short or shooters difficult. the shoot early appeared to use the larger protest as cover. we are expecting to hear more on the status of those officers who were shot. bill: are these the first officers hit with gunfire in ferguson? >> reporter: that's what the chief said this morning.

back in november after the grand jury's decision not to indict officer wilson, hundreds of gunshots were fired in the direction of officers on that night alone. the chief said it was only a matter of time before this happened. >> the night was fairly uneventful up until midnight. at midnight the crowd was starting to break up. several of the officers left the area. to the immediate north-inch of the ferguson police department, several shots were fired at least three and two officers were struck. >> here is what we know about those two officers. one is from st. louis county. he's a 14-year veteran of the department. another who was shot in the face is from a suburb of st. louis. he's 32 years old. we are told they are in stable but serious condition.

bill: thank you have much, garrett. martha: this flare-up of violence we saw overnight comes after release of the justice department report and the resignation of the ferguson police chief. it's important to remember what that report showed. the report cleared officer darren wilson of any criminal act or wrong doing in the shooting of michael brown. it also concluded that the hands up don't shoot moment which was echoed across the country becoming a rallying cry for protesters actually never happened in the encounter between wilson and brown. it called the claims from the witnesses not credible based on the forensic evidence which showed the position of the bodies and the people at the time. at the same time it did find evidence of racism in the ferguson police department and that led attorney general eric hold early say he's willing to do whatever it takes to start over. >> we are prepared to use all

powers we have, all the power we have to insure that the situation changes there. and that means everything from working with them to coming up with an entirely new structure. >> reporter: does that include dismantling the police force? >> if that's what's necessary we are prepared to do that. martha: we expecting a news conference on the condition of these two police officers. we'll have more on that story throughout the next couple of hours. bill: six employees either fired or resigned since last sumner that town, in that police department. we'll have it live for you when it happens next hour in ferguson. another incidents involving the secret service. "the washington post" reporting two senior agents were driving drunk when they crashed into a barricade outside the white house. the latest in a string of

questionable behavior within the agency. >> that's another embarrassment for the secret service and it's a shame. >> it's unacceptable and risk other people in front of the white house. they are a person that is responsible for the well being our president. then they are being very unprofessional. bill: back in 2009, two reality tv stars crashed the white house state dinner. in 2012 dozens of secret service agents busts soliciting prostitutes in colombia. there were several oper incidents last fall including a man who who jumped the white house fence. >> more on that. there are new questions about whether hillary clinton may have committed a felony. she was required by law to sign a form that certified that she had hand over all of the federal

records that she had to the state department when she left her post as secretary of state. talking to megyn kelly last night a former justice department attorney describes what this form is and lays out the legal stakes. >> the form itself says before you sign this, understand that you are certifying something. that we can prosecute you for. making a false statement in this context, knowingly and willfully which i can't imagine anything more knowing and willful than knowing you have 55,000 records sitting in your home. if you do that, it is a felony. martha: he laid it not you no uncertain terms. doug mcelway joins us from washington. does this put hillary clinton in perhaps some serious legal jeopardy? >> reporter: that's going to remain the subject after lot of conjecture. that attorney suggested it does. there will be no shortage of

lawyers and legal scholars who save it doesn't. if this regulation was perceived as proforma that would hardly require jail time. no doubt wherever the secretary had those records werpt she had them in her chappaqua home or in her office or somewhere else. she has to bring all the records to the table and turn off any official records as the time of her departure. >> reporter: clinton said she'll not turn over the server but calls for that to happen are growing stronger certainly among her critics. martha: what about the white house? have they reacted to this?

>> reporter: it drags them back into clinton scandal-land. josh earnest acknowledges he corresponded with clinton by e-mail but didn't moist was this private account. >> this is a decision made by secretary clinton and her team. and what we are talking about are e-mails she described as personal that relate to -- what she described as a variety of personal arrangements whether it's her daughter's wedding or the personal things of that nature. again i have refer to you secretary clinton's team about the decision they made on that. report rrm earnest has -- >> reporter: earnest said the department complies with

recordkeeping meticulously. bill: iraqi forces backed by rawb making progress in driving isis -- backed by iran making progress in driving isis out of the town of tikrit. the battle for saddam hussein's former town is not over yet. they are now pushing deeper into tikrit defeating isis in that town would be the first major win for iraqi forces against isis and set the stage for an assault on the largest city of mosul sometime in the coming months. martha: the battle over the letter to iran that was signed by 47 republican senators getting testy. some of those senators challenged secretary of state jiang kerry on the iran nuke negotiations. >> john kerry don't know what

he's talking about. the on reason we can't get an arab army to go into syria they have conditions on going into syria dealing with assad. martha: bob corker is one of the few who did not sign that letter. bill: new details on the search for victims of the military helicopter crash in florida. martha: a break in the case of the attempted kidnapping of a 22-month-old toddler that happened in broad daylight. the whole country has seen this shocking video on the children chasing after. but wait until you hear what we just learned about the person holding that child. >> reporter: the whole traumatic experience brought us even closer together. i'm relieved that the arrest has been made and there is a subject in custody because not only is my family safe, other families

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a candlelight vigil was held last night in honor of the victims. they were on a military training mission when the helicopter crashed near eglin air force base tuesday night. another crew had to turn around due to the weather during that exercise. >> he told the congress basically to go to hell. i wanted him the iranians and the world to know you cannot deal us out. if he's contemplating a deal with the iranians that would give congressional sanction relief and not allow us to have a say web's flat wrong and that's why i signed the letter. bill: a letter sent to the leaders of iran signed by 47 republican senators. it's a slugfest on capitol hill. senator, you were one of 7

republicans who did not sign the letter. why not? >> first all thanks for having me on. i'm in the incredibly privileged position of being chairman of the foreign relations committee. therefore, my role is to figure out a way to move our country ahead through the legislative body relative to foreign policy. my goal is to pass a piece of legislation that does give us that ability to vote. we have a number of democratic cosponsors. we have been building momentum toward that and that's my objective. that's where i need to stay focused. what lindsey said becomes reality. we have the ability to weigh in on one of the biggest geopolitical events that most us will experience in the senate. >> you are trying preserve a vote oh-proof majority in the

senate? >> that's correct. bill: at the moment do you think you have that? >> if every single republican were to vote for this proposal and the 11 democrats that signed on that's 65. some of the drama that occurred over the last week or so has sort of put us in a -- we stopped for a little while. but we'll take momentum back up and my guess is we'll get there. i think whether you are republican or democrat, having the right to vote -- reomit cally it's far bigger than what's happening with isis. it will change everything that many happening in the peninsula. this will create tremendous amounts of nuclear proliferation, not to speak of the huge amount of money that will come to iran if you reach a bad final deal and over time are able to access a nuclear weapon

and they will have access to $30 billion that is now stranded oversea that they can use to keep the terrorist activity they have going on in the region. bill: that gives you a sense of how critical this is. was it a mistake for your republican colleagues to write that letter? >> we do an excellent job of talking about thing in a civil way. and, you know, people are different what is of expression. i will say what behind say says is absolutely true. this is what i challenged kerry with yesterday who tried to act so indignant. there is so much passion around this issue because the white house is stiff arming. it's saying even though congress you put the sanctions in place. even though you are the ones that brought iran to the table we are not going to give you a say in lifting the congressionally mandated sanctions. we are not" to let you have a

say in that. people on both side of the aisle believe that's wrong. bill: secretary kerry was hammered by marco rubio. the point he made is iran is dictating foreign policy everywhere. be it iraq, ukraine or russia. do you agree with that premise? >> i was in iraq and baghdad. i went to upper bill to visit with our kurdish friend. evening we are doing right now in iran, ebb though i support the efforts we have underway against isis. every single thing we are doing is preparing iraq to be a better nation for iran. iran has permeated the parliament the head of the quud -- -- the head of the quds force.

the general is a rock star. the fact is that iran is playing a huge role there. they are playing a massive role in syria and big role in yemen. our arab friend are concerned about their proliferation if you will. bill: that sound like a yes. -- that sounds like a yes. >> i'm sorry i'm a senator and i can't answer with just a yes. bill: senator bob cork, republican from tennessee. martha: christians under attack by isis. the terror group kidnapping people of the christian faith every day and telling them to convert or that they will be killed. why our next guest says christianity is slowly being wiped out in the middle east. bill: a break in an attempted kidnapping case can after this footage shows somebody trying to

kidnap that baby in broad daylight. >> it's good that he's off the street and we are safe. we swroanlt to worry about this again. als overshopping.

bill: new evidence in the boston marathon bombing. the tsarnaev brothers allegedly gunned down a security officer three days after the marathon attack. witnesses say they saw dzhokhar tsarnaev leaning into the officer's car. the tsarnaev brothers allegedly packed the boks that were

designed to maim and kill. martha: a man running count street after allegedly snatching a 22-month-old child carrying him in his arms in broad daylight. the victim's brother and sister, very brave children, chased after him. police say eventually the suspect put the baby down and ran off. authority say the alleged kidnapper is 15 years old. what is going on here? jonathon hunt live in our west coast newsroom. what do we know about this guy? >> reporter: we don't know much at this point. he's not being identified because he is as you mentioned according to cops just 15 years old. but officials say he is indeed the person you see in that surveillance video carrying the 22-month-old toddler away. they say that he has lived in

the small town of sprague washington for some years and the sheriff says they are glad they got him off the streets. >> based on a search warrant that we applied for and served. as well as one of the siblings involved at the very beginning they were able to pick out the suspect in a photo montage. >> reporter: that 15-year-old has been booked on second degree kidnapping. prosecutors will decide whether any further criminal charges should be filed. martha: thank goodness the younger siblings ran after him. no doubt that forced him to put the child down. he didn't want to deal with it anymore. his family must be really relieved. >> reporter: there is a lot of relief and gratitude. gratitude the siblings, the

brother and sister ran after this guy shouting. that attracted the attention of two bother teenagers who chased him. the family came out and talked about how relieved they are and grateful towards law enforcement. >> i'm relieved that the arrest has been made and there is a subject in custody because not only is my family safe but other families will be safe because he's off the street. my son owen seems to be doing all right. he's still kind of standoffish towards the male role at the moment. >> reporter: a happy ending there for the wright family. a disturbing ending for the family of the 15-year-old now booked as i say on second degree kidnapping charges. martha: thank goodness that family is back together. bill: there are new reports

about hillary clinton's use of private e-mail accounts. why her staff had concerns about a private server and concerns she broke the law. martha: we are waiting for an update from police after two officers were shot last new england ferguson, missouri. >> reporter: bullets went right past my head. it was kind of traumatic. i'm still in shock because of it. if you haven't heard about the latest sale at hotels.com, then you haven't seen this commercial. book now and save during the spring break sale at hotels.com.

bill: ferguson, missouri, about midnight local time, two police officers shot outside the police station. we are waiting to hear whether police have any suspects. we'll bring to it you live from the police department when it happens. martha: new reports that claim aides to bill clinton had

serious concerns about setting up and private e-mail account for hillary clinton when she became secretary of state john kerry in 2009. and when she became secretary of state in 2009. >> reporter: a private server would give mrs. clinton more control over her e-mail. privately they were worried adding her account would make the system a target for hackers. they also weren't aware she would be using it for all her official correspondence. bill and hillary better get on the same page here. the first thing we heard from bill clinton's side is that he doesn't send e-mails. now we are hearing that

uha abadan went to chappaqua and said we want to set up this account. >> what's strike being this "wall street journal" piece is hillary clinton bullied her way on to the server. he's now claiming he had no idea she was run can the state department off the server. his team and he seems to be throwing her under the bus. martha: is the "wall street journal" and man cams assessment getting this right? >> i think so. bill's team and hillary clinton's team have never seen eye to eye. the sense that bill's team is

yesterday's news. we are a different type of politics. a different approach. clearly we are seeing a schism. the real question is will more come out. the real question. 31,000 personal e-mails? some of those have to be in a gray area. martha: bill's team won two elections. hillary has yet to secure a nomination. this one might be in trouble. >> the important thing that came out of this "wall street journal" piece is that those e-mails and that server did not have a robust encryption system. martha: she says she never sent anything classified over the system.

>> hillary has to announce quickly. no ifs ands or buts. she has to talk about politics rather than encryption. martha: here is the problem with that. her team is not together yet it appears. and i'm wondering if the support for her is what the polls seem to snug reality. >> it's interesting to see. i think what we should be seeing now in polling since this story has broken i think those numbers might change. when she was secretary of state her negative number ofs receded. those negatives are creeping back. this has a lot of democrats worried. i wrote a col number "washington times" -- a column in the "washington times." the real reason she is in

trouble is nobody likes her. this is her essential problem. it's not that she is a serial liar or that the children tons are low rents and corrupt. everybody already knows that. the reason she is having problems with her own party and her own husband is nobody is willing to go to bat for her. this was the same dynamic with the sister. martha: hillary is not bill and bill gets away with a lot of stuff because people really like him. >> they can withstand their principal negative. money. she starts raising close to a billion, billion and a half dollars she'll need. martha: that's what people have to decide, whether they think she's the best sure thing for

them. >> given the polls today. i agree they are soft. but given she is waive ahead. i think the monti people will invest. they will invest big and they will invest early but she has got to get out there and that's what i expect her to do in the next month or so. >> thanks so much, you guys. bill? bill: 22 minutes before the hour. poland asking the united states for tomahawk cruise missiles as it tries to beef you have its military power. they are saying security challenges are being created for par saw with what's going none ukraine. >> reporter: missiles is new. the polish defense minister saying he wants those tom talk cruise missiles because i want to launch them from new subject a reasons it's buying along with

patriot surface to airasia flight 8501pay the -- surface-to-air missiles. 5,000 nato troops will make place this summer to block any potential russian incursion. as for the ceasefire there are problems with that. nato secretary-general is saying russia is arming and training those forces. russian tanks and and artillery crossed the bored into ukraine in recent days. according to another official russia is still in eastern ukraine. as for the man many think is behind all this. vladimir putin his spokesman saying he's in per text health. he hasn't been seen in a week.

he has been cancelinga meetings. he said his handshake could break your hand. bill: sowrnlds like he had a good spring break. martha: nasa is testing a brand-new rocket. why this one is so very different. bill: christians targeted across the middle east by isis. there is chilling testimony making the case how christianity to disappear from its birthplace. reporter: isis is the face of evil. they are crucifying christians right now. they are beheading children. and yet unfortunately this administration will not acknowledge what happened.

martha: nasa says it

successfully tests the most successful rocket beast they have ever made. >> 3 2 1 fire. martha: the agency tried that in the utah desert. it produced 3.of million pounds. think about that. 3.6 million pound of force. nasa hopes this is the baby that will take to us mars at some point. bill: from utah to the red planet. martha: to meet the martians hopefully and back. bill: christians under attack by isis being told to convert to islam or die. the islamic state posting the cold-blooded execution of 21 christians in libya earlier this month. but this is only one of many atrocities committed against one of the most ancient communities in the middle east.

jay sekulow with "rice of isis," welcome back. >> you are looking at thousands some days it's more than 3,000 people being killed every day executed beheaded, crucified. that doesn't include the number of people being sold into slavery. this is an ongoing problem for women and young girls. you have got a situation where the international community has to start engaging this issue not just militarily, but there is a diplomatic aspect to this. benjamin israeli said diplomacy can be a form of war. you have got to get arab

countries to stop allowing this to happen. turkey is a nato ally of the united states and they are allowing people to go through turkey to join isis. bill: in these countries where christians are being percent cute muslims are being percent cute as well. it's working both case. >> if you don't agree with the radical jihadist theology of isis and you are a muslim they are equal opportunity killer. they kill different' not indiscriminate. if you to the follow their exact line of thought and exact line of theology and their political jihadist motivation then you are subject to death. necessity view you as an infidel. the problem here is the magnitude and the capacity for these groups now with boko haram engaged, i don't call them terrorists anymore. these are jihadist armies.

you look at boko haram you look at hamas you look at isis, and you realize what we have right now is probably upward of 50,000 60,000, 75,000 jihadist troops in the region wiping out entire religious communities that have been around in the christian community since the beginning of christiandom. boko haram of course the same kind of scenario. this is a dangerous time. >> i mentioned the testimony you gave. i weren't through that as well. you say that we can do more and must do more. you talk about waking america's sleeping giant. what must be done? >> i don't think anybody doubts we have the capacity to crush and eliminate isis as a threat. the question is do we have the will. the president doesn't want to

engage. he says he doesn't want boots on the ground. we may be entering into an intergenerational war. intergenerational conflict. the reality of that is we'll probably have to have boots on the ground. nobody want more war in the united states. but we don't have much of an option here. there is. >> the thing we can do. we can sanction regimes that take money from the united states that are persecuting their own citizen because of their faith. we always mention iran. we are sitting at the table with them. pakistan is an ally of the united states, $1 million in aid. pabidi sentenced to death because he's a christian. we have to put an end to this. bill: you write in conclusion, we can start by waken can the sleeping giant of american

popular opinion. jay sekulow. thanks for being with us today. martha: so is president obama's executive actions on immigration now on hold due to a judge? some lawmakers are trying to get rid of what is being called the tax credit for work that was done illegally. we'll talk about how that works. bill: you are a gator hater? the unexpected appearance on ought front 9. >> usually you will see a couple here and there. but a crazy day.

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martha: president obama executive actions on immigration

is tied up in the courts. the amnesty bonus would give 4 million undocumented immigrants tax credits once they get their social security card for work they did while they were living here illegally. officialsofficials estimate it will cost $2 billion to give this money back to people as they start the process and get the social security card. but critics argue this makes no sense at all. the iowa republican says the tax code should not reward those who broke our immigration laws. so let's bring in the political editor for "the washington times." we know who would get this. but the big question is what is the argument for it, for giving it to them? why does the u.s. government believe it would make sense? that it's the right thing to do? >> all of this comes about because of president obama's

executive action. if congress does legislation they can go ahead and tweak these knock on effects. when the president does something he don't have the to tweak those. the administration -- their intention wasn't to insure illegal immigrants get tax credits, they say that's part of the laugh and the law says you are allowed to go back and claim up to three years or refile their taxes for the three previous years. amended returns. or if you never filed a return you can file a return claiming a tax credit for these three years. they say that's built into the law. the trigger is these illegal immigrants when they get approved for the president's program they get work authorizations and social security numbers out of that. that social security number is the key thing that triggers the tax cut. they say it's a knock-on effect. the problem is it's the president's program in the first place that by doing it

unilaterally that creates these problems. martha: it only affects people who fall below a certain income. because they fall below that certain income, they are entitled to get this earned income tax credit because they have been paying into the system even before they got social security card, many of them with money taken out of their paycheck with taxes they are never saw any benefit from. >> that's true for some. the key wrinkle is essentially if you are an illegal immigrant you haven't been paying into the system you can still go back and refile for up to three years of your previous tax forms. the irs has left a lot of confusion on capitol hill about that. it turns out i'm an illegal immigrants fan i worked off the books and i am able to prove i earned that money do i end up ahead if i file my taxes then i can file three years of back refund claims. if i don't end up ahead i ignore it all and i'm not worse off.

what the president's program does is puts the choice in the illegal immigrant's hand. he or she decides whether to file. that's what's getting the folks up on capitol hill here. martha: we'll see you next time. bill: two police officers shot in ferguson, missouri. the hits came as they were guarding protest outside the police department at midnight last night. screen left is inside the room where in clayton missouri the police chief will step to the microphone. one officer shot in the shoulder the other in the face. we'll get an update on the officers and an update on the manhunt for those who are responsible.

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martha: we are back. breaking news as we go to clayton missouri for the news conference about a shooting of two police officers last night. >> by that i mean the st. louis county police department because the ferguson police department is right now back in control of the city of ferguson. i actually kind of stayed in touch with this until about 10:30 last night. went to bed, i was woke up about midnight with the news. at about 8:15 protesters started blocking south flrorisant in front of ferguson pd. they asked for 25 cars to assist them at 8:27. approximately 150 protesters were located in the roadway, 15 police officers on the scene.

at 9:00 ferguson makes one arrest of a person, failure to comply in the roadway endangering welfare of child and interfering with our arrest. protesters leave the roadway. at 10:00 due to amount of people in roadway, another code 1000 additional 25 percent come in. we ended up with 69 police officers that respond. at 10:30 ferguson makes an additional arrest of a protester in the roadway. at 11:15 they make final arrest. at this point we are beginning to see the crowd begin to diminish. in fact by about a quarter to midnight we're beginning to see not only the crowd beginning to leave but also seeing police officers that are going to be leaving, at least some of them. i would imagine we had 75 protesters. probably, 40 police officers left at this time. so we're thinking it is thinning

out. at 12 a.m. we hear three shots, three or four shots ring out. some of you have seen that on the media. these are shots not in the air they're not not ground. one way you can tell, when you listen to the audio you actually hear those shots singing. those shots immediately strike two officers standing next to eve other. i would like to underscore, the officers are also standing in a line of about at least 20 to 25 officers. so we have a group of officers standing there. it is very, evident that we have a group of officers standing there. webster groves officer is shot right here, at the high point of your cheek, right under the right eye. the bullet lodges right behind his ear. and that bullet is still with him. he will have to have further evaluation to figure out what they're going to do with that round. the st. louis county officer was struck right here on the

shoulder. the bullet came out the middle of his right back between the scrap pew la and his spine. -- scapula. un-- fortunately with both officers we don't have any remarkable long-term injuries. it wasn't in somebody's brain or heart or anything like this. but you need to know, that these two officers took a very hard hit. i mean anytime you're shot in the face and have a bullet lodged in your head, anytime you have a through and through wound where the bullet inters our shoulder and comes out the middle of your right back those are hard hits. we're luckygy god's grace we didn't lose two officers last night. one of the things that i talked about is that we do need to understand, as a community and we certainly understand it as a police department and as law enforcement that we have an obligation to make sure that

folks that want to express their first amendment rights have the ability to do that but when you look at the tenor of by at least some of the people involved in the protests or civil unrest, it at times can be very troubling. it is difficult for the officers to discern within a crowd of folks that are perhaps, there for the right reason exactly who is doing what. and one of the one of the problems we have is, similar to last night i would have to imagine that these protesters were among the shooters that shot at the police officers. and for the police officers that are standing there really don't have the ability at nighttime to understand what they're looking at, it's dark, there is a whole lot of people out there, there is a lot of noise it is very difficult for the officers to really understand what they're looking at at time and really to be able to evaluate any type of threats. so you know i would just tell

you that you need to understand that i think it is a miracle that we haven't had any instances similar to this over the summer and fall. with the amount of gunfire we would hear, that i personally heard last summer and fall i think it is a miracle we haven't had something like this happen and i think we're very fortunate that has happened. i would also like to point out that my officers tell me that when this happened, when they heard the shots and when they heard the bullets singing past, that they saw muzzle flashes. but these muzzle flashes were probably about 125 yards away. many officers drew their weapons, but no officers fired. but what if we're in a situation where it is 25 or 50 yards away? and it's a threat right there in front of you that can be engaged except we're around a situation where perhaps, 40, 50, 60, 70 people are around?

we really need to understand the dangers of this. i'm not blaming anybody other than, other than the individuals that took a shot at my officers and hit them but i am telling you these are situations that it is very difficult for us to navigate through if you're a police officer on the street and you're doing everything you can to protect people's first amendment rights, everything you can to protect other people's rights traveling through the area anything you can be doing to protect life and property, this is another layer that makes it difficult for our police officers to deal with. i hope people understand that. this is a very tricky line for us to be able to walk. ladies and gentlemen, we were very close to having happened what happened in nypd with officer ramos and officer liue. we could have buried two police officers over this. i really didn't expect the amount of agitation at times we saw last night out of the crowd based on the news that happened

yesterday. and not everybody there expressed agitation. but we certainly are always cautious but i didn't expect obviously either that we would have two police officers shot last night. one of the officers from st. louis county is 41-year-old, he is a 14-year veteran of law enforcement. the webster groves officer is 32 years old and five-year veteran of law enforcement. i will answer any questions. >> any update on the suspect you're looking for? >> we have leads on that. i will leave that at the time. let the detectives work. they're still out in the field. in fact the lieutenant, the sergeant, his staff still have not time to come into clayton to brief me. we talked to them on the phone. as you might imagine this is the number one priority right now of the st. louis county police department to identify these individuals.

that individual or individuals, who shot our police officers. >> but no one is in custody? >> no, ma'am. >> if the shot was is 25 yards away what degree of confidence it was even association associated with the protest, rather than taking protesters an opportunity to try to shoot a cop? >> i talked to my staff about that in detail because -- i had the same questions about why this is. there are indications that would lead us to believe obviously some of the folks that were there to participate last night you know in expressing their opinions, they were spread over lighter area than just confined and that did extend not only to to the south but also to the west. but i feel very confident that, that whoever did this was there for the wrong reason, not the right reason and came there for whatever nefarious reason it was. but i do feel like there was an unfortunate association with that gathering. >> you mentioned almost

impossible path where you have officers standing in a line almost like sitting ducks. folks who are protesting. others may be rabble-rouserrers. how do you all have you all thought yet how you will go about this differently going forward? is there anything at all you can do differently than that? also can you speak to the concerns from law enforcement's part you don't want any of your officers to be too aggressive too quick to react because of what happened? >> i would actually back up to the last part of that question. i sent a text last night out to two of my senior staff members two of my lieutenant colonel nels that said, listen, our bearing this evening will be very measured. so we want to make sure we don't cross that line and do anything that we shouldn't be doing as law enforcement. we protect those people's rights. how is it going to look differently? we have some experience in this. the county police department does in running some of the operations last fall and during the grand jury verdict and before different things like

that. so we're going to be exploring and pursue perhaps we adopt those plans that we have. so one of the things with the code 1000 plan that calls closest 25 cars in, maybe code 2000 causes another 25 to come, that is really not a plan. that is reactive. i think it is incumbent upon myself as a chief we come up with a good plan to protect the community and protect police officers out there. >> is the county police considering taking over ferguson? meaning is there a chance for ferguson police officers and staff to go under the county umbrella at this point? >> i guess there is that chance out there. i think better way to answer that question is, that we've not been in any sort of official talks with ferguson regarding that issue. and that as the police chief of st. louis county i have an obligation to make sure no resident in st. louis county is without competent law enforcement. the police department has to make sure we provide that to anywhere in the county to

include ferguson. i had a question over here. >> do you expect to be sending more officers out to provide security around the ferguson police department? >> i do. i don't know if we will have any issues tonight, but please remember, we have a responsibility. these officers took an oath to protect life and property. and these are some of the things that we are expected to do. and it is unfortunate when these things happen. law enforcement is at times a very dangerous proposition. but you know it is incumbent upon me and my staff to make sure we're doing things to where we give our officers the best chance to succeed all the way around. >> how do we keep this from escalating back where it was in august? >> one of the things i'm anxious to do right now i have already talked to my staff about it, get ahold of some of my community leaders out there to talk to those folks. again i think that is critically important. there has been an assertion out there that perhaps some of the leaders we have don't

necessarily have some leverage over some folks that don't do certain things but shame on us if we don't continue those conversations and those conversations have been ongoing. i just think as the police chief it will be important to bring community leaders back in the next day or so at latest, you go hey listen. these are the issues. i need you to be brought up to speed on this. i need ideas you have that can assist the police department and assist the community. that is what we're there for. >> do you know what gun was used -- [inaudible] >> we feel like it's a pistole, a handgun. we recovered shell casings in the area. we don't know 100% yet if those are going to be the shell casings that are going to be attributed to this shoeding. -- shooting. we do believe it's a handgun based on the way the shots sounded and the injuries to the police officers did not appear

to be rifle wounds. >> have you learned anything from talking to any of the protesters that were there last night about suspects possibly? >> we talked to several people there. that is part of the investigation that we won't go into but it was certainly an opportunity for to us talk to some folks and i think there has been, it would not be an overstatement to tell you there has been several people that have been very forthright with the investigations. so that is certainly encouraging. >> chief some. protesters last night said this was rowdier than normal crowd -- [inaudible]. among the protesters -- can you speak to that, having was this more violent crowd than normal? >> yeah, it was pretty rowdy. i think that's pretty clear. some people might have seen the news reports of fistfights and different things like that. some things are relative. we have had nights it has been much worse but at the end of the day, i really did not expect last night when i first started monitoring this it would spin to

the extent that it did regarding the agitation. so we're you try to expect those things and you know but sometimes it is very difficult to figure out you know, we saw a report the fact that there were rocks and bottles being thrown. i frankly have not been able to confirm that myself. so i don't know if that happened or not. but i think it is true there was agitation within the crowd. i got this one right here. sorry. >> county executive answer any questions whether he has had any discussion with mayor knowles about using -- >> i will turn it over to the county executive for some comments. you guys can finish up with me. ma'am? >> i know you guys -- [inaudible] is this in line with any specific threats? >> categorize that for me. >> just some of the things we've heard as far as police being threatened, you know,

actions that people are going to take of revenge things like this -- >> some of this is gathered for example, through intelligence or hear things or however we're able to glean that information out. but obviously some of the threats are very overt. somebody standing a foot away from the officer expressing to them they would like to do bad things to that police officer. we're certainly well aware of that. again i think it is incumbent upon us to try to do the best we can to craft something to where everything works for everybody. and we don't have these issues that spin out of control. the responsibility of last night's shooting lies with whoever did that shooting, i want i want to be very clear about that but it is at times like i said a very difficult environment for us to work. >> going back to what you said earlier, at this point what is next? a lot of people are wanting to know what can you do now moving forward? i know you have some ideas but, what else is left? >> we'll have to take a look at the security plan up there

again, similar to what we did last fall. i think that is part of it. i think community engagement is part of it. but i think this has really been in the news cycle a whole lot lately. i understand why. but you know, we started off with a court clerk. then it went to two police officers. that went to the city manager. now we're dealing with the chief who has stepped down. it just kind of seems like it is always in the public you know always in somebody's mind right now. i think part of this i would hope you know would get down where we continue to have civil discourse about this the right way and, i think that perhaps only time might be will satisfy that. we'll have to see. >> sorry, do you think this is -- [inaudible] >> you know what? i would like to tell you that i have more confidence in the community than that right now and i believe that i do.

so, you know, that wouldn't shut the door to the fact that i'm going to certainly ask for assistance, you know manpower assistance regarding helping as we do some things, for example different but i have to count on my municipalities to be there doing it for the right reasons. i have to be able to count on the highway patrol. as you know my overtime bill from august through the 17th day of december on ferguson was over $5 million. so these are expensive propositions for us. and we would certainly we need the assistance anywhere we can get it with these very good law enforcement agencies that come to the assistance of ferguson. >> would you consider this, what happened last night, at this point, to be a random act? you know, what i'm saying? was it just a random shooting as much as you can plan security, what not, if someone wants to go on a hill and shoot

unless you roadblock whole area, there is random thing? >> this is ambush, is what it is. you can't see it coming. you don't understand it. it is going to happen and you're basically defenseless of the fact it is happening to you at the time and that is something very difficult to guard against when you have a group of officers standing in a large group. and then, you have gunfire, certainly gunfire directed at them. i would also like to point out however, last night the only gunfire we had was the actual incident where the officers were struck. yes? >> talked about all the overtime your officers have been working, last night characterized as an ambush. talk to us about the morale of your officers right now? >> i think the morale is pretty good with the officers but i'll tell you what, i will tell you i'm thinking. i was shaken up about this at midnight when the phone rang. that is natural for the officers to certainly be very cautious about their well-being and different things like that. i have a tremendous amount of confidence in the st. louis

county police department as captain nelson has with the webster groves police department. they will be out there doing things for the right reason. they understand it's a dangerous job and certainly need to hold me responsible that i can make it as safe as possible for them. >> did you look for a weapon in the sewers or what about utility -- >> they could be but i don't know that. i can't answer that question right now. captain bosher, did we have anything to display or did that work out? >> photos -- [inaudible]. >> send them off? >> we had some photos from the crime scene. >> so i just wanted to tell you one of the photos you're going to get the webster groves officer was wearing a riot helmet lit up, face mask was up. we have some photographs that you can look at that basically demonstrates the blood spatter when he was hit in the face that splashes up against inside of that face guard. again, i have a lot of

confidence in the community. i understand exercising people's first amendment rights but i will be honest with you, this is beginning at times to be very difficult for any law enforcement agency anywhere to really wrap their arms around. i want everybody here to understand how difficult this is to do it, the exact perfect way. very tough. >> talk to either of the police officers? >> yeah, i talked to both of them. i know captain nelson talked to both of them too. the officers, both of them were just shot. they were with their families. fortunate that the families could be there. they were hanging in there. one, my officer was in a tremendous amount of pain with that wound going in his should and -- shoulder and coming out his back. again those officers are good guys. i'm proud of them. i will leave it with that. county executive standinger. >> i'm primarily here just to

express our deep support and our concern for the families and the individuals who were shot last night, our officers, and officers of the we can sister rose police department. martha: we've been listening to jon belmar, prior to this gent man, st. louis police chief, who said by god's grace we did not lose two police officers last night but he outlined their injuries and they are quite serious. the younger one from west groves, the bullet went through his cheek and lodged behind his ear the way it was described and the bullet is in that position and doctors are trying to figure out what they're growing to do in terms of that. the other 41-year-old st. louis police officer, 14-year veteran of the force there, he got a bullet went through the front of his shoulder and lodged between the scrap you la and his back. he was in a great deal of pain,

who described a very difficult difficult situation, when shots rang out against a lined up formation of police officers, standing there to protect people's rights. are we going to mike tobin now? mike tobin, are you there? >> reporter: martha we have people looking at scene officers with metal detectors, examining the scene. presumably they're looking for what is left over of rounds fired off in this direction. you talk about the location where the police officers would form up, countless nights we saw them form up in a line at that location where the police officers are now looking for the evidence. protesters generally form in front of them and taunt police officers. that happens night after night. the cones are where the officers were when they were shot. now as we look straight up the hill, this is tifin avenue hill. that sr. with the police officers say the muzzle flashes come from. that is the scene out here. martha, back to you in the studio.

martha: mike, more to come. thank you very much. we'll take a quick break. we'll be back with more.

martha: we just watched a news conference from the police chief in st. louis county after this latest violence that comes after the department of justice released a scathing report on the ferguson police department. while they cleared officer darren wilson of all charges in the shooting death of michael brown, they said he had every reason to be fearing for his life given what transpired there, they did find what they called serious bias and wrongdoing within the police department. both u.s. attorney general eric holder and president obama saying some serious changes are needed in missouri and across the nation. here they are. prepared to use all the power that we have, all the power that we have, to insure that the situation changes

there. and that means everything from working with them to, you know coming up with a entirely new structure. >> does that include dismantling the police force? >> if that is necessary we're prepared to do that. >> are they going to enter into some sort of an agreement with the justice department to fix what is clearly a broken and racial-biased system. or if they don't then the justice department has the capacity to sue the city for violations of the rights of the people of ferguson. >> that is the backdrop that they're dealing with in ferguson. bret baier joins me, anchor of "special report." very strong words from eric holder and from the president, from that report. and then we see what happened last night in ferguson, two police officers have been shot. a lot of tension on the street there, brett. >> a lot of tension and you have

also one day after the ferguson police chief announced he is resigning and you have this tension that is still bubbling, from not only the darren wilson incident as you mentioned was cleared on two counts, both on state and local level, and federal level but this report out of the justice department. the president six days ago, called that evidence that ferguson police department was oppressive and abusive, and that is the environment in which this, this has happened. i thought it was interesting, martha to hear the st. louis county police chief say how much money they are spending in overtime alone to try to deal with all of these protests that have still bubbled up. this much after the original incident. >> i mean you wonder what the reaction from the white house will be to what happened last night. obviously these police officers are in a very difficult position. i thought the police the police chief of st. louis county jon

belmar was very eloquent and talked about how they want to continue to reach out to community leaders in the group. i don't know how, in a way how much that helps given that these individuals, whoever they are you know, may have no connection to these community leaders or nor might they be able to reach out to them but nonetheless from the beginning the department of justice has contributed to the feeling of tension on the streets there and in some cases some might say fueled the flames of it, bret? >> well that's a fair point, martha, and it is something that is really in question here. the president set up this task force to solve not only problems he says in ferguson and in missouri but across the country dealing with issues between police departments and african-american minority communities. he put on the task force, two of the people who started all of the protests in ferguson, you know after this report, it obviously spurred more protests.

now you see this violence there and this shooting and it's important to point out these cops that are in the line two of them get shot. the police officers draw their weapons, but don't return fire. the amount of restraint, the amount of danger that they faced on those streets every night is pretty amazing. >> it is extraordinary truly extraordinary. you think back to the hands up don't shoot mantra that was heard and repeated all across this country and used as a vehicle to describe this story and the evidence that some say exists in these other police departments which never happened, bret. we haven't really heard anything on that from eric holder who was, you know, very much behind that line of the story it appeared. >> that's true. we haven't had a lot of deep questioning on this besides this justice department report. you had the press conference where eric holder spoke.

then you have the president in south carolina addressing this report head on, explaining the reason that the feds couldn't move forward with charges against darren wilson, saying what was so important to him was the overall oppressiveness and abusiveness of the ferguson police department. >> wonder we know the administration reached out to michael brown's family after what happened there. you wonder whether or not someone will reach out to the families of these two police officers who are in the hospital right now dealing with bullet wounds as a result of these tensions. bret, thank you very much. we'll see you tonight. bill: check in with mike tobin to see how the rest of the day will go and nighttime, round two yet again in ferguson missouri. hillary clinton saying she complied with every rule but why are others saying clinton may have committed a felony? some answers when we talk to former attorney general alberto gonzales next live.

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bill: 33 minutes past the hour. did hillary clinton commit a felony by deleting personal emails? that is the question being asked now. the law says emails can not be deleted until official records have taken a look at them. judge alberto gonzales former attorney general in the george bush administration and dean of belmont university college of law in tennessee. welcome back to "america's newsroom." >> good morning, bill. good to be with you. bill: based on everything you have seen, did she violate federal law? >> you know, bill, i'm not comfortable trying and convicting secretary clinton in the media without knowing what all the facts are. i think we need to let confess do its job, if she has done something wrong she should be reported in media. what is reported in the media is very troubling. government records are then to be preserved and turned over to the government once someone leaves office. that apparently didn't happen here. so there are some very troubling issues that think the american people and the american congress

deserve answers to. bill: i respect the fact that you're keeping your powder dry for now. do you know about the form, of-109? apparently you have to sign that when you leave the state department and perhaps other departments of the federal government? >> yes. when i left the department of justice as attorney general i had to sign the form as well. again with respect you turn over all official documents. that you don't have in your possession classified information. that is something customarily -- bill: that is a known thing in washington, d.c. right? >> of course. hillary clinton has been around governmenting long enough to understand that would be standard procedure with respect to anyone holding a position that would have access to classified information. bill: shannon coughlin former lawyer during the bush administration. >> i know shannon well, he was on with megyn last night and he has series of questions he wants answered. >> every little employee at the

state department has to sign this little piece of paper. it says i certify, basically under penalty of perjury that i have returned all of official records that were in my possession while while i was an officer of the department of state. so where is that document? bill: can you answer that? >> i can't answer that. i'm assuming that's, that is in fact fact what happened here. there are a lot of unanswered questions here in terms of whether or not -- she has turned over, she says all of her government records but we really don't know that. we don't know whether or not on her server there was any classified information. we don't know whether or not there was successful hacks into that server. so there is still a lot of unanswered questions here, again i support the efforts by congress. i think questions raised by the american media, the american public about what happened here. bill: one final question. could it be as simple as cuff

lynn suggested last night does this form exist and did hillary clinton sign it? if she did, what then and if she did not why not? >> obviously that is an important question to ask but you're taking what could be a very complicated set of circumstances and distilling it down into one simple question and i'm not sure that would be appropriate in this particular case. again we need someone who is independent of the clintons to examine that server and to see whether or not there are other existing government emails. to see whether or not to extent possible emails were deleted a lot of work needs to be done. bill: final word here will that happen with the server. >> will what happen? bill: will it happen? she said the other day she is not giving her server up? >> i think as political matter, if this is someone really interested in running for president to say it was inconvenient to use government email i'm not sure that is a position that is sustainable but that's for experts in the political world. but i'm not sure that is

something that is sustainable. >> thank you sir. alberto gonzales from tennessee today, the former attorney general. appreciate you coming back. >> thank you. >> at 12 a.m. we hear three shots, three or four shots ring out. some of you have seen that on the media. these are shots that aren't in the air, they're not not ground. one way you can tell when you listen to the audio you can actually hear those shots singing. those shots immediately strike two officers standing next to each other. i would like to underscore these officers are also standing in a line of about at least 20 to 25 officers. >> unbelievable scene last night. that was st. louis county police chief jon belmar talking about the two police officers shot, one in the face. that bullet still lodged behind his ear. another into his shoulder through his back. both are a live and said to be doing fairly well but they have serious injuries and in the hospital right now. there is a massive manhunt.

this is the number one priority of the st. louis police department obviously to find the individual or individuals who shot these officers last night while they stood in formation to protect rights of people who were protesting. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani joins me right now. your reaction? >> my reaction this is absolutely outrageous. these police officers were protecting these businesses. i have had contact with businesses in ferguson because they have opened, closed been bombarded two or three different times. they can't get insurance anymore. those police officers were there. remember, protecting largely minority businesses from being destroyed again. >> right. >> in pursuance of protecting largely minority businesses, they were shot for no reason. and what is the reason? you have got to say it is the atmosphere. i remember officer liu and ramos because i got to know their families very, very well and

found their shooting, assassination, to be caused by the atmosphere that has been created. there is an atmosphere of unbalance here. all we talk about is the police did this wrong the police did that wrong, the police did that wrong. that's a footnote. the major headline is, the police of the united states make it possible for you and me to go home every night and be safe. 800,000 of them. the number of incidents are miniscule. they should be eliminated. they should be done away with, but it has to be in the proper context. when they put out this report on the police department, if it, first of all it is an allegation. no proof yet. they didn't put out a similar report saying, we were dead wrong about ferguson. that should have been, that should have been preceded by -- martha: they said they couldn't prosecute officer darren wilson you're right, the footnote was bigger than the report up. >> hands up total lie. total absolute lie. martha: no one acknowledged that in the administration even

though they perpetuated idea. >> if you prevent atmosphere if you balance statement. martha: this is president obama. he is talking and goes directly to what you're saying. listen to this one quick moment. >> what happened in ferguson is not a complete aberration. not just a one-time thing. it is something that happens. >> what happened in ferguson is man commit ad robbery, attempted to assault a police officer and police officer to save his life shot him and, police officer did his duty. the police officer should be commended for what he did. he did exactly what he should do. a local jury decided that. the justice department couldn't prosecute it. don't you think this justice department would have prosecuted if they had any evidence at all given attitude here? martha: almost as if eric holder said but there is so much pervasive bias in this department. he said we'll we should clean house of this department. if we have the authority to do

so that is what we'll do. so you had six people lose their jobs over this. police chief retired yesterday. resigned yesterday. you have got what happened last night. >> if that case will be presented that civil rights case be presented, intellectual honesty, common sense not to create a riot not to create overreaction you have to balance that with a lot more words about what was wrong with the original impression that was created. i was extremely offended by this because i was traveling in europe and south america when a lot of this was going on. all over those television screens, all we hear is american police are biased. american police are big gotted. i know american police. four uncles who were police officers. i ran the new york city police department largest in the country. the big story is, how they protect us. the big story is those two police officers, the guy shot last night trying to protect those businesses. they weren't there because they wanted to be there. they were there because people were rioting.

>> what hapned in the past and protect their lifeblood and companies. >> this is crime. too much rioting. had there been no rioting last night this would not have happened. martha: mayor giuliani, thank you very much. always good to see you. see you next time. bill? bill: while you were talking eric holder came out with a statement talking about shooting of two police officers. we'll give you that in a moment as our breaking news continues in a moment. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. ♪ building aircraft,

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bill: eric holder, attorney general with statement about these two police officers shot last night in ferguson, missouri. part of it reads the following quote, this heinous assault on two brave law enforcement officers was inexcusable and repugnant t continues for several paragraphs. including several sentences i should say that includes killing of an officer in philadelphia last week. the attorney general referencing that incident saying we wish these injured officers, the ones

in ferguson, a full and speedy recovery. we stand unequivocally against all acts of violence against cops wherever and whenever they occur, end quote. that from the attorney general. he went to ferguson during the heat of all the national debate what was happening there. and, inserted himself into the story in ferguson, missouri. now again we get this statement a moment ago from the department of justice. >> and, you picture and remember the scenes of people, hands up, don't shoot became this chant that was supposed to be one that recognized, you know the overreach and violent act by a police officer against michael brown, that was determined by eric holder's own justice department to not have happened. and although he was very forward-leaning in terms of that story and his visits and promises of justice to michael brown's family when he was

there, apparently darren wilson does not deserve the same equal treatment under his, in terms of how he spent his time and used his words and dedicated himself. now darren wilson is exonerated and, the focus has shifted now to how egregious the entire police department is in this doj report. and that seems to be the focus for the department of justice at this point. then we have what happened last night, perhaps in part as a result. bill: two police officers shot, one age 32, one age 41, expected to recover. this comes on the same day the police chief in ferguson resigns. that makes six, half dozen who were either resigned or fired since the shootings of michael brown last summer. what remains to be seen whether or not ferguson remain as quiet place. we will not know that until later this evening. what the police chief in layton said last night largely it was peaceful protests. people were going home around

midnight. the shots were fired a minimum of 100-yards away that he believes. no one has been arrested as a result of that there are no suspect in custody at moment. mike tobin is on scene. we'll get back to mike in a moment when our coverage continues in this story. meantime, american journalist was held for eight months in iran. his brother is here live why his family is stepping up the fight to bring him home. that's next.

martha: family of an american journalist imprisoned in iran stepping up the work to get him returned safely. he was iran bureau chief since 2012. holeds dual citizenship. he and his wife were arrested at

gunpoint thrown into undisclosed iranian jail. his wife was released. but jason is getting help from none other than than american boxes legend muhammad ali also joining the call for his release. jason's brother, ali joins us and douglas post, "washington post" foreign editor. thanks for being with us. let me begin with you. what do you understand about the latest condition of your brother and tell us about your effort to get him home. >> you know right now we know that jason is still very isolated. his mental condition i think is worsening. he knows that he has been held for longer than any other western journalist in history. and that is causing a lot of trouble for him as well as the fact he is isn't being protected by iranians by laws thee usually follow. after seven 1/2 months we have finally been able to engage an attorney, to help with his defense. and that process is just starting right now. martha: yeah.

douglas, tell me from the paper's perspective in terms of cooperation that you're getting from john kerry from the state department what is the united states doing to free him? >> you know we're using every channel we can to put pressure on iranian government to treat jason fairly to follow its rules. the dealing with iran is difficult. many centers of power, no diplomatic relations. secretary kerry has condemned jason's detention. made clear he raised this case on the sidelines of the nuclear talks he is now having with iran. what we want for iran, its representatives to recognize they have an obligation to show that it is country that followses its rules that makes good on its commitment. we'll look at jason's case and recognize it is assembly baseless. martha: ali he is about to be 39 years old. he wanted very much to be released before his birthday? how is his wife doing? she had been held and released? >> that's right. there is a lot of pressure on her. she is working within the

country there to move the case along. and, you know i think pressure is just really hard for folks outside of the country to understand for the family, even ones that aren't in jail. martha: of course. douglas, you know, we talk about this nuclear deal that the president is working on with iran. how do you feel about what is going on with jason in the context of all of that? >> >> my focus has been on winning is. >> son's release. don't believe getting involved in political matters is appropriate. this is a time when the world's attention is focused on iran. it is focused on talks between the u.s. government and iran. also a time when iranian new year is approaching. this is time of mercy and compassion. we hope the two factors will put pressure on iran shows government follows rules and put an end to this really outrage

just situation. martha: ali quickly what would you say to the administration, the deal they're working on with iran and how that fits in with their other than family's story? >> you know, i think that i would say that jason's always been about bringing people together. he always wanted to give people a really good idea of what it was like in iran. and, break down any misconceptions. it just, has been such a long time he has been held. to really make clear to the iranians, they haven't shown us there is any evidence that he caused any problems. that he did anything. and that he should just be released and allowed to come home. martha: you have 230,000 signatures on a letter to the supreme leader. we wish you all the best and encourage everybody to pay attention to the story. ali, doug, good to talk to you. >> thank you. bill: new information on the shooting of two police officers in ferguson. are city officials looking at another powder keg in that

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