my facebook page. go search greta van susteren. i will be posting exclusive facebook edition of off-the-record this weekend only there. you don't want to miss it good night from washington. see you monday. . previously on "red eye". >> i'm tom. that's a nonconfusing thing, isn't it? there's a lot of people on here that don't like me but they're going to like me. i did share a beer before outside. i'll see you next time. >> hello everyone i'm tom shiler. let's welcome our guests. criminal defense attorney remmy spencer and she hopes to be cast as remmy spencer in law and

order and pop star robin thick rr, just kidding. he works in his basement, just like any other serial killer augmeant. >> a block, the lede, that's the first estory. >> and apparently the secret service agents ran smack dab in the middle of a bomb investigation. any incident was still being dealt with when the two agents one of them a senior member of president obama's detail, showed up unaware that they were coming

up on a suspected package. and officers on duty could smell alcohol on their breath gut spite that, the washington post reports that a supervisor told them to let the agents go. wow. let's face it if anyone should be allowed to drive drunk, it's secret service agents. is this a big deal? >> i don't think so. old school secret service, you know, the old hop on the trunk and get to the hospital, they look at this and laugh and of course, you don't tell on them, it's supposed to be that thin blue line of law enforcement, right so you don't rat out your guy. who finally ratted. i'm tired of this p. let's get back to the old days. >> possession and cops stick

together right. and they have so many hazards, let them have a few leizeres in life. do you agree? >> absolutely not. you ask a criminal defense attorney if law enforcement should be able to get away with crimes and i say no. we have drunk drivers and we know they're terribly dangerous to all of us. not just themselves but all of us and they were interfering with an ongoing investigation, they didn't know what that package was and they knock over a cone and interfere with the investigation and then rather than investigate and have field sobriety tests, the supervisor says, no no let them go home

and sleep it off. i think new director clancy is going to have a lot to live up -- a lot of work to do, i should say. >> why were there cones. what was the point of a cone at the bomb scene? >> it's to prevent people from running over what might bow ee a bomb. >> and they're made the of rubber, people run over those all the time. >> isn't this the bar tender's fault for selling drinks to the secret service? >> i would but i don't think it would be permiscible in court and because they with weren't breathalized, you can't say there was wrong doing there. there's no legal documentation of that.

so it's not just that the little cone barricade mishap happened, it's what happened afterwards was the issue. >> and again i'm going to delve back into history, they should have come back into the office the next day with sunglasses on and then they walk out and yeah, something cool. >> and you say, get out of here, you disgust me. >> or you make them drink another martini. >> and the squad laughs at them. >> and they save the day later. >> but these it guys, secret service. they don't get these guys off the street. they're very heightened senses, they can have a little coffee. they have secret in their name. leave them alone. >> that's the thing you can't have secret in your name and

then go around driving drunk crash into barricades at the white house. >> you can't keep it a secret. >> i would love to blame this on millennials but these are senior agents so chances are they're older. >> remember when you looked at kids and the yankees and red sox and you would say, look at those men and they're boys, in their youth. but the secret service is not the way it used to be. it's not for the guy whose protected kennedy right. >> that's what you want to see, the guys in the suit, running. >> kennedy got killed. >> that's right and we all know how that happened and you can't blame the secret service. >> in the mafia -- >> i don't know what's happened

with the secret service. i've seen "house of cards." you see that guy he's making out with the first lady and the president, it's terrible. >> why is that terrible? >> because he's supposed to do his job. >> that's not a spoiler. it's last season. >> if you haven't watched "house of cards" and that the secret service is making without the first lady and the president get on it. michelle obama would be horrified. yes, the jihadists want to kill us, but they're killing themselves wi their cooking seems to be done with childish simplicity and little looking into for healthy food. rarely any salad. their fridges are crammed with sugary soda and candy bars and

for breakfast fruit loops. yes, fruit loops breakfast of terrorists. this jihady tweeted someone snuck in five cheese burgers from mcy d's ♪ you have to eat great notes. >> you guys remember mulligan stew. they showed that in my grammar school. you learned a lot about nutrition and you laughed about it too. >> you can't bewhat you want to be unless you eat a balanced diet. the right diet, the right exercise, is all part of --

>> i worry about the heart health of the people that are trying to kill us. >> who doesn't. are we at the point where we're looking at what they're eating? is that the latest propaganda? are we supposed to feel bad? >> they're posting pictures of their food. >> is there a commercial where some guy says, he's not getting the food he eats. >> for a price of a whole cup of coffee you can get them a whole meal. i don't really care what they're eating but i would hope it's bad. and hopefully killed quicker than a prolonged heart disease thing. >> lip tor, that's what they need is lippitor. >> and don't blame mcdonald's

for terrorists. you know i live on mcdonald's. i think writer of this article got it perfectly right and you said that they had childish simplicity and lack of balance. i think that that stood for everything about them. it's simple and unbalanced. >> but that's comfort food. >> and we would all be surprised to see the lack of morbid obesity with the terrorists. >> because they're very active and they're doing the obstacle courses in the desert with the tires. have you ever tried to do that with the tires? it's difficult. you're a trend setter. why does everybody like the take a picture of their food?

>> take a picture and it will last longer and i want to last the whole day. >> so you're taking a picture to slow it down? >> yeah so i can continue to enjoy it for as long as possible. that even these guys who say they're so mentally and physically strong, sucomeb to the processed food and they're not immune to it. >> only in 2015 though, would we look at what they're eating, fast food and over cooked meet and say, that's bad. look at world war ii and see what they're eating. mcdonald's? how about a fish head.

>> i heard superoupuper sized was your life. >> this is how bachelor's eat. yes, you can have fruit loops for breakfast because ain't no damn woman telling you you can't. this is not much worse than what i used to bring to field with me in the army and that wasn't even at war. these guys are at war, they don't have time for your upper west side brunchs. >> people who have kids don't have brunch. >> that's why i've never had kids. >> you mentioned the diet is part of why they're terrorists. if you give children that much sugar, they basically edo turn into little terrorists. so it is possible that the sugar is doing this. >> any humor put on radical

terrorists is verboaten is what i say. >> children's advocacy groups are asking them to halt the production of hello barbie. the wifi toy has conversations with kids and uptloeds to a cloud server. >> what should i be when i grow up? >> you said you like being on stage so how about a politician or a dancer or bhout a dancing politician. i always say anything is possible. >> you always say that. >> and they say it conforms to government standards and that safeguards are in place to protect kids. they're not just talking to a doll but to a toy conglomerate and barbie asked many questions

that elicit a great deal of information that could be used to advertisers and to market unfairly to children. we did note asfewice a few troublesome questions. >> if you were a pin code, what numbers would you be? what's your mother's maiden name? >> are we right to worry that this is the nsa of dolls. >> it's so that when the robot revolution happens, they'll be used to talking to machines and taking orders from machines. >> there's been talking dolls for years. is this that much creepier than all those other versions. >> no, this is a parents beware. it's i don't like this so it

shouldn't exist. if a lot of parents decide they don't want their kid having the doll mutell will stop making it. >> do you wish you had this doll? >> i do. not as creepy as my invisible friends. kids are already sharing information online and i know a lot of these kids are text savvy and the parents want to shut them up and they give them an ipad. i'd rather my kid talk to this doll than some put the in a chat room. >> you've seen american girl? >> heard of. >> you've never been to the store. >> they shampoo. >> more than drinks there. >> it's right up the street but they come with a website and you

can go on and interact and it's a lot of fun. anthony, do you think this is a good toy or do you stick to your believes that women should never speak? >> just break it once it gets home. this is terrible. i don't agree, andy. i think people aren't smart enough to use the technology that's being given to them. this doll can sit there and listen to what your child is saying and what is being said in the room. where is this going? what cloud? people's pictures are being thrown up on a cloud and violated. people just don't understand the technology that's out there and where their information is going. whether it's a phone or a toy until people are educated a little more i don't think they

can handle this. >> when my kids are playing in the corner of the room, i'm thinking of terrible things. there's only the cloud. >> i thought it was a bunch of clouds. >> it's a nimbus. >> it's my barbie, just keep talking. >> how many times do we have to pat this guy down. >> remmy, do you think this is a good toy for children or should there be barbie roaming for criminals on the street? >> i think every girl would love a barbie fashioned after her but not as you described. i don't have children, disclarm, this is just more kids over reacting and then i watched the video and i watched the womaä2ñ de

describe the technology. and it's not just that she understands and hears, it's that she remembers what you say and that's disturbing to me. children say lots of things. you can imagine the types of conversations you're having. >> it's a female doll, of course she remembers. remember five years ago when you said -- >> remember bionic man and then they came up with the bionic wum woman and she could over hear things. >> they tried to put this in a ken doll but he wouldn't listen. who was the other guy? action jackson?. >> fear. if you're not scared, you better

be and the president appears on the late night show. was that show "red

ferguson police are searching for suspects in the shooting of two officers at a protest rally on tuesday. looks like the ferguson story just got real. i think that calls for a ♪ you remember when we went to the movies as kids and we'd see that what you're about to see is a true story. you don't see that. you see based on a true story or my favorite, inspired by actual events. you don't think i'm about to see something true and you don't have to be a skeptic.

movies are never real life and we accept that. it doesn't bother us because we'd rather see ea good story but in the news media we still want to trust what they say is real but in ferguson, hands up don't shoot was a made up story. it was a script a production and it was based on actual events but wasn't real. a lot of people call this media bias but in many cases, it's not bias, it's made up. you don't say that movie was bias bias, you say it's ridiculous. we're lucky we're living in a time when there's not one narrative. in my time there was the newspaper, the evening news and some guy with a sandwich board screaming. now there are many ways to examine a story, get perspective try to separate the true from the story. so we're getting more skeptical

and starting to get a disclaimer in our heads. now we have a true story based on a story that was inspired by actual events. ♪ andy, i always go to you fist and i don't know why i do because you always tear apart my monologues. how much sense did i make? >> not at all. i don't understand how you think ferguson just got real because [ bleep] shot the cops. >> and the doj report said the hands up don't shoot was ridiculous. >> but it also said that the whole damn city structure was racist. >> why because they gave out a

bunch of traffic tickets? >> are you kidding me? >> i was very unimpressed. >> for any conservative that walks round talking about the constitution constantly should stop doing that. >> i'm trying to correct this here, tom. the first amendment violations, much more were done against black people than white people, that was disgusting. >> well said. >> i need a voice of reason p.. trusting the media is at an all time low and that's a good thing, right? >> i think social media is more culpable than the news. when a story goes up that this man was on his knees saying don't shoot and it turns out to you have to do is

hash tag it and put it throughout and they probably didn't even see the news and no matter whautt you show them you could show them a report from eric holder and they're going to ignore the parts where it says he was not on his knees saying don't shoot but they'll put the part up that says the police was biassed and hold that up and andy, i understand how reprehenceable it is but let's are not make it sound like you're in a heap of trouble. it seems to be that it was more a money making scheme than it was let's be racist. >> but people literally were being ripped out of cars. >> and not just in ferguson, right. >> even if we don't trust the

media the way we should or shouldn't but it's shining a spot light on the types of problems and they're pervasive. i can tell you in newark and new jersey where there's not a representative law enforcement present. >> remmy you make a good point. i think what you're saying illustrates my point that people have an idea that there's police misconduct rampant and theirer going to write it whether it was true or not and it wasn't true in this sglascase. >> hands up don't shoot was not true. >> it is the bias that they are feeling and not just from that one incident and like he said because of the repeated actions that have been taken by this

police department, which unfortunately, does happen in other parts of the world and this is going to spiral into this whole thing and they have evidence and a report and some ground to move on and they want some sort of ramification in their communities. >> can you honestly look at a report and saying that 87% of people that need to be restrained during arrests be racist. or can it be that 87% of the people they arrested that were black were resisting. >> how many of the people being arrested end up -- >> well, you can also look at people stopping in cars they had to stop. they were then searched and black people searched much more often than white people but white people were much more

likely to be holdling contraband. >> ferguson is a majority black city so when i looked that numbers, they didn't surprise me at all. the numbers didn't equal the percentages of people. so the numbers should have been surprising. when they show it time after time, it was police misconduct. it wasn't that ploo black people were committing more crimes and to me, the majority of people are peacefully protesting. >> and coming up a study says millennials are the least skilled until another study comes along saying the opposite. >> hammers and sickals for democracy reminding that not all

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. the commander in tweets. president obama stopped by jimmy kimmal's couch and went down the list of tweets. >> is there some way we can fly

obama half way around the world and leave him there? how do you make his eyes light up, shine flash light in his ears. i'm i'm all right with the president wearing jeans but not those jeans. >> something tells me there were far meaner tweets and he addressed hillary clinton's email address. >> do you have hillary clinton's new email address? i can't give it to you. >> do you drive? >> i can't drive. i mean, i'm able to drive. >> is that because you don't have a birth certificate. >> in kenya we drive on the other side of the street. >> oh, wow, a kenya reference.

it's not serious and dignified to do late night shows. >> yes, you have a job. leave the for us. you don't need the exposure. >> you want to read the tweets on kimmal? >> listen i wish i had the opportunity read those nasty tweets and i wish they were funnier, get with it people. and how great they are for writing these jokes for obama but we do have a lot going on in the country and so i don't know how he can be care free, i don't know. >> were you upset that none of your mean tweets were featured? >> the ones you get or send? >> the ones you send to the president. >> i don't. that would be crazy. i don't know why he thinks that

is funny that he can't produce a birth certificate and kenya. >> no it's just one big joke that the constitution is shred up. i think we've probably reached the point in society where you doit. this is the future. >> i disgrow. i don't want to see my president on a late night show. think about your job. i'm sure you have times when there are things important. if i'm getting ready for a trial and my client sees me on red eye, they're fwoegoing to think i'm not dedicated. this is the leader of the free world and he's on a comedian show. and i don't care if he's funny.

>> i don't. i think they think she's on tv so she's a good lawyer. >> they do but they don't hire me. >> i think anybody that makes a tweet that is offensive -- look, i'm no fan of obama over the years. >> what? >> i know. believe it or not. but everything he does doesn't have to be terrible and awful. but it was funny and i thought he looked relaxed and like a fun guy and i'm sure i'll get tweets from people saying, what are you talking about? are you a lefty? >> you couldn't find anything to complain about? >> no and nothing new. >> i have some tweets if i read

some the other day i mentioned that blade runner was the best movie of all time. first i said best movierobot mubovie and then best movie. >> sorry robots have a built in life span for the creator that created them at the terrell corp ragds. have you ever seen blade runner. don't resist your temtation to join isis. >> i thought you blocked me. >> no, but that's the type of things i have to deal with just because of my love of blade runner. >> and mill enials are well educated but not skilled. they found that they are higher

levels of educated but they lag p hind their peers in many developed countries. the skill level a decade ago was judged mediocre and now it's eve low even that. and the lack of adequate skills in this population has become a challenge for us to confront. joan you are a millennial but you were a -- and what does that say? >> it says our country is crooked. oh, i took bam. i don't want that to be a thing. it's because we're testing our kids too much. kids learn how to pass tests and not skills that they will take themselves with them and teachers are encouraging this

buzz it reflects their jobs and they want tenure. >> they said more americans between the ages of 20 and 34 are receiving higher enlications their literacy scores are declining. what would be the reason there? it's a failure of the education educationist system. >> what do we do about it? >> changing the educational system. i went to columbia and they have a core curriculum where you have to take arts class or whatever and colleges don't do that anymore because i don't want to learn about old dead white guys. and i'm sorry, you have to learn about things more than your precious feelings.

>> why not make them smart in high school? >> i'm going to go aught toer them myself. >> you'll need representation for that. >> i don't think it's the educational system and i remember hearing these -- and that's something about getting old. but hearing every generation that that generation isn't doing as well. >> each generation is doing worse. >> here is what i blame. you could be well educated but i remember growing up you had to if you needed to spell a word get a dictionary and if you had to do math, you got a paper and a pen or a quill in my case and now you solve problem without knowing how to or structure a sentence or get something grammatically right. >> i can't believe i'm going to say this but i agree with

anthony. i agree with you. everything is done for you. you don't have to think anymore and that's the problem. >> all right. time to take break. benevolent sexism when we come back.

it's sexism with a smile. new research says that men who hold doors open for women may be

signs of sexism. yes, those acts are signs of benevolent sexism. they also often think that women should be treat particularly well because they're women. this they said, perpetuates sexism. they said women should be set on a ped stl, me, and that they should make sacrifices to provide for a woman. me anthony, what is wrong with the world? >> can't we get back to old-fashioned values. >> i knew what a sexist was because it wasn't me. >> it's the koeb yaushy murue, the no win scenario. i like putting a woman on a ped

stl, naked. >> for a moment there i thought it was going to be nice sentiment but you had to add that extra word to it. who wrote this article? is it a lonely ugly woman who wrote this. >> imagine if i said that. >> well, you can't because you're a man. it's not gender inequality to treat one good but there are going to be differences and i want the man to open the door for me and the whatever because he's bigger and stronger. >> you said they have to be treated equally but you want better. >> no but we do things for the men that other men won't do for them. >> like their laundry.

>> shouldn't yoi get something for that 30 cents on the dollar tat you're not getting? >> it eveens out, it does. i know i'm not incompetent at some things but i don't want to be competent. i don't need to learn how to change the car's oil i'll let the guy do it. i usually have to jump onto that pedistal and it's high and i often hurt myself, so if i could be placed -- >> when a man says jump, you got to jump on the pedistal. so we have toood feminists and not open the door for them? >> that's it. problem solved. men are supposed to treat women like people.

i'll hold a door open for a man too. why can't we just be polite? >> don't tell anyone about your door thing. >> if you see someone weeker than you, and the average woman is weeker than the average man and you say let me help you with the package, that's just being polite. >> but we do put women on a pedistal and you should that's the kind of guy i am. and up next, tea party. start telling people how switching to geico could save them hundreds of dollars on car insurance. but first, my luggage. ahh, there it is. uh, excuse me sir? i think you've got the wrong bag. >>sorry, they all look alike, you know? no worries.

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focus of the conference ♪ white privilege ♪ to kick off this year's conference, he called tea party members screw loosers who ranged from fetered racists and he said they hate obama because he broke the white monopoly on the presidency everything is a smoke screen that's all about i want this country back for me and by me he means white people. thank goodness this wasn't paid for with taxpayer funds. it was. you have a daily white privilege conference in your home? >> yes little costumes.

>> would you attend just to see what you've been doing wrong? >> no. i think every segment of society has group that want to beat themselves up. this is akin to s & m where people want to be beaten. but, yeah this is just -- people -- there are certain groups of people who love to get on themselves and hurt themselves and make themselves shamed and that's where the white privilege comes from. >> he's right. the white privilege is all white. it looks like something. >> did you expect somebody else?

>> did they have a point that all tea party members are insane? >> of course they dent have a point and i can't believe i'm going to say this again that i agree ewith anthony. and maybe it's intended to get the attention. they may not even mean what they say and if dhieo, they're entitled to their opinions. >> this is everywhere we don't stop hearing about it. >> it's been going on for over a decade and it's happening at an upscale hotel for a week and nothing says white privilege than being in your jacuzzi tub. >> and i will be speaking at the

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breaking tonight. "the kelly file" taking matters into our own hands to get to the bottom of the growing hillary clinton e-mail scandal. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone, i'm megyn kelly. two nights ago we told you about the one critical document that may prove that hillary clinton possibly committed a crime, and not just any crime but possibly a felony. it is called an of-109 form. every departing state department employee must sign it certifying that they have surrendered all official documents, classified and unclassified, that they acquired while at state. they have to give them back to the agency before they leave. we know that hillary clinton must