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hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge generaline pirro. thanks for being with us tonight. signing any deal or agreement with iran would be a disaster. it would be a problem for me, and it would be a problem for you. >> this year we have the best opportunity in decades to pursue a different future between our countries. just over a year ago we reached an initial understanding regarding iran's nuclear program, and both sides have kept our commitments. iran has halted progress on its nuclear program and even rolled it back in some areas. the international community, including the united states, has provided iran with some relief from sanctions.
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>> i don't want to have a different experience with iran. in fact, i don't want to have any experience with iran, as long as the ayatollah khamenei is running the joint. i personally am not on a suicide mission. i'm looking to hang around as long as i can. now, if president barack obama wants to have a different future with iran moving forward, i'm all for letting him have at it. he's already pen pals with the ayatollah. and reports are that his right-hand valerie jarrett secretly met with khamenei during his 2012 election campaign. both sides of course deny that report. the president has provided iran with some relief from sanctions and has reportedly reduced from 20 to 10 years the point at which they can go nuts and build a bomb with our blessing. and by the way, if iran has all
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this oil, will someone please tell me why they need nuclear energy? now, our president believes that iran is a country of its word. take a listen. >> iran's supreme leader, ayatollah khamenei, has issued a fatwa against the development of nuclear weapons, and president rouhani has said that iran would never develop a nuclear weapon. >> a fatwa against the development of a nuclear weapon? are you kidding? isn't iran the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism? mr. president, haven't you heard of takia, which under sharia permits lying in order to achieve any goal that benefits them? the ayatollah's the supreme religious leader, follows sharia, the law that requires everyone to engage in jihad against the infidels. and just this week general
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petraeus, you know, the guy whose military skill led to winning the iraq war, has said that iran is more dangerous than isis. so mr. president, why are you so focused on helping these people? >> if iran's leaders can agree to a reasonable deal, it can lead to a better path. the path of greater opportunities for the iranian people. more trade and ties with the world. more foreign investment and jobs, including for young iranians. >> oh, isn't that nice? our president is worried about jobs in iran and a greater future for the iranian people. mr. president, with all due respect, why don't you focus on the job the american people elected you to do? the one american people are paying you to do. how about you fix our economy, create jobs for our kids, and a
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better path for americans? now, you're the one who freaked out when israel's prime minister addressed americans. you know what i think this is all about? you just hate bibi netanyahu. you hate that he won. you hate that he came here, a true statesman and a leader. you hate him so much that your state department gave 350,000 taxpayer dollars to a non-profit that supported the anti-netanyahu candidate. might a few laws have been broken there? we're going to talk about that in a minute with a congressional leader who demands answers. you know that iran is committed to the destruction of our ally israel. you know that iran has provided hamas with weapons to kill israelis. you know many in iran's leadership still refer to america as the great satan.
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what's that? iran is helping us defeat isis? we're on the same side? they are helping us by fighting our enemy isis? mr. president, a tip. iran is fighting isis because they are both laying claim to iraq, a nation that iran has always coveted. iraq, the nation you left in shambles by pulling out too soon because of your political agenda. so here's the bottom line. your petty jealousy of a leader who fights hard, who fights to the death for his people, is jeopardizing a long-standing relationship between israel and the united states. you would rather support a regime committed to the death and destruction of our one true ally in the middle east. you seem committed to doing whatever you can to signal your disdain for israel, whatever you
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can to make friends with the ene enemy, and this our ally. mr. president, whose side are you on anyway? and that's my open. tell me what you think on my facebook page or twitt twittetwitter twitter @judgejeanine #justice open. and with me now from tel aviv, former israeli deputy defense minister and member of the knesset, danny dannon. good evening, danny. you heard my open. am i wrong? >> good evening, judge. great to be on your show again. especially after we won the election. but i think the relationship between us and israel are much stronger than politics, are much stronger than any leader in israel or in washington. that's why we are not worried about the relationship. but we are worried about iran because a bad agreement, bad agreement for you, the american people, and bad agreement for us, the israelis. we cannot accept this agreement. and i think prime minister
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netanyahu said it very clearly in congress. it is a bad agreement. we want irve-" not nuclear notr a week, a month, or a year, but forever. why to leave enriched uranium? why to leave reactors intact? why to allow them to develop ballistic missiles that can reach new york city? by the way, judge, they have missiles today, the shihab missiles, that can reach tel aviv. but they will be allowed to develop the missiles that can reach washington, d.c. as well. >> you know, danny, the israeli people obviously agree with you. i mean, netanyahu won very big, beyond the expectations. but would the american government giving allegedly $350,000 of our money to the anti-netanyahu candidate, how do israelis feel about that? >> we are a strong democracy, the strongest one in the middle
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east, and we saw 70% participation in the last election. we don't like other countries meddling in our politics, in our democracy. we heard the alleged funds that came from the u.s., from other european countries, and i can tell you one thing. it actually helped us, the leek yooud. it helped prime minister ne netanyahu because when we see other countries meddling in our democracy the people of israel are smarter than that. they gave the likud the votes and lead the nation. >> what is the reaction of people in israel to obama saying he now has to reassess aspects of the relationship with israel given what he calls netanyahu's hard right turn there? >> well, i think that president obama should meet prime minister netanyahu and speak with him and to see that we haven't changed our policy. but we should look at the region.
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the pact between hamas and the palestinians are still there. the radical islam are getting stronger in our region. yes, we have a reality, and we should face that reality. i think there's nothing personal here. but we are living in the middle east. we want to advance peace. but we cannot make mistakes. >> danny danon, thanks so much for being with us. and congratulations to you. >> thank you, judge. >> and with me now, republican congressman lee zelden who is a member of the house foreign affairs committee. good evening, congressman. you along with senator ted cruz sent a letter to secretary of state kerry asking about this non-profit group that sent $350,000, taxpayers' money, to back netanyahu's rival. did this violate their tax-exempt status? and what can you tell us? >> well, the answer we got back from secretary kerry was a partial response to some of our questions. one of the questions he didn't answer was with regards to the irs tax-exempt status.
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so secretary kerry suggested senator cruz and i reach out to the irs commissioner. so we did. and we're waiting for a response. this is a u.s. 501c3 tax-exempt charitable organization that worked with obama's team, a dozen and a half obama staffers to try o'to oust bibi. >> when you say a dozen and a half obama staffers, where were they trying to oust bib snichlt. >> they were working in israel. >> his staffers were working in israel? >> these were campaign staffers led by jeremy byrd who is the president's national field director. two strategies entered into a partnership with one voice and v-15, or victory 15. they were running an acorn obama organizing for america type campaign over there with the digital ads, the billboards, the phones. they were targeting israeli voters -- >> why do you think that our president hates this man so much? >> well, he lost. i mean, i think the president tuesday night felt like he lost. i don't know. maybe it's because he found
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someone who is filling that vacuum in the middle east created -- our president -- you know, right now israel and our allies are in the foxhole and they're looking around and they can't find our president anywhere, the leader of the free world is busy negotiating a bad deal with iran. >> and what do you think of this video that the president made for the people of iran saying, you know, he wants to give them jobs and all? what is that about? >> well, i agree with you that his focus really should be on american interests, creating jobs here at home. he did the same exact thing with isis when he had his extremism summit just a few weeks ago at the white house. he was saying one of the three prongs of tackling isis was to get them more jobs. i think the president needs a refresher as to who our friends are and who our enemies are. >> but you know what? anybody can tell you who our friends and who our enemies are. and you can't get into the president's mind. but are they naive enough to believe that they can negotiate a deal for iran and protect us,
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the american people? >> no, the president is not pursuing a good deal with iran. he's pursuing a bad deal that is going to trigger a nuclear arms race. >> why? tell me why. >> well, this is march madness, i guess, is what the president's pursuing over there. there really is no good explanation as to why he is doing it. there is fortunately only a year and a half left in his second term in office. the length of our relationships with our ally israel and others will outlast the president's time in the white house. >> i hope so. >> hopefully he doesn't cause too much damage in the meantime. >> can the president cut congress out of the iran nuke deal? >> well, the president would like to cut congress out of everything. he looks at the constitution, he sees himself as a monarch. he is the president and he is congress. if you talk to him and you question him on this policy -- >> but can he keep you out of this? >> he cannot. >> what would you do to stay in it? what do you do? >> whatever he is seeking to agree to with iran must come to
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congress for our approval. if he does not receive our approval, he cannot just get rid of sanctions that were passed by congress in the first place. >> all right. congressman lee zeldin, good to have you here this evening. thank you. >> thank you. and coming up, growing fears as isis claims credit for the brutal attacks across the middle east. are we next? plus, vote in tonight's instapoll. will hillary clinton survive her latest scandal to run in 2016? facebook or tweet m me @judgejeanine #justice on fox. you clean with soap and water, about a thousand times a day. but germs might still be there. new lysol tap top will change the way you clean. it kills 99.9% of germs without harshness, to help protect your family. lysol tap top. start healthing.
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eric. how is it that this is growing so vastly across the globe? are we next? >> well, what you're seeing, judge, is you're seeing the spread of both this ideology and you're also seeing the spread of these tactics. so these tactics of suicide car bombings and truck bombings and beheadings. you're seeing this not only in iraq and syria you're also seeing this in yemen you're seeing it in tunisia, you're seeing it in nigeria with boko haram and in all of these places what you're seeing is not necessarily increased operational coordination but you're definitely seeing emulation as this radical ideology spreads and these tactics spread as well. >> and you know, zudi, know boko haram is claiming, you know, their allegiance to isis or their agreement with isis. boko haram covering a certain part of the globe, a little more east and south, i guess. and we see copenhagen, canada, australia. are we next? >> we certainly are.
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and today there were reports that they're threatening a list of our military. and as the fbi has reported they're in 50 of our states. and i think what's most depictive this week is the two attacks, tunisia was more of the front of the ideological battle because it's the only so far successful democracy after the arab awakening. you this secularists defeat the radical islamists, the anti-islamist movement defeated the islamist party in nahda and then yemen is sort of the military front for isis just like in syria where they cut their teeth. they're fighting now in yemen against the shiite jihadists. so ultimately both really represent the ideological battle in tunisia where there's an existential threat and then the military threat of the shiite jihadists in yemen. >> you know, in tunisia they say tunisia is one of the most educated arab countries. they actually go into a museum. so now we're seeing malls and airports and airplanes and coffee shops. it's like they're trying to think of new ways and, you know,
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unusual places to go after victims and to make their statement. eric, what do you think of that? how do we protect americans? >> what they're doing, judge, is terrorists operate by spreading fear. so by attacking malls, by attacking museums, by attacking mosques, they're actually intentionally spreading fear. and one of the things they're also doing is by putting out on social medi against u.s. service members, they're trying to inspire lone wolf attacks in the united states, what they're trying to do is to inspire fear. what we have to do is we need to build a plan that will inspire courage to actually take the fight to isis and make sure that they don't threaten american lives and those of our allies. >> but eric, the president is not going to do that. zuhdi? >> if i could fill in there, the bottom line is that we need a strategy. the president doesn't have a strategy. and they attacked tunisia because they want to destroy their economy.
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so they're filling in a vacuum. they see opportunity. and unless we start engaging both muslims and the world in a battle of ideas against islamopatriotism that vacuum is going to be filled by radical islam both on the sunni and the shiite side. but we don't have a military strategy or a long-term one. >> history repeats itself. there's no question about the vacuum. but eric, going back to you, we don't have a strategy. i'm also tired of hearing it. and no reflection on you, zuhdi because i think that you're brilliant. but eric, there's no strategy. and he's not putting boots on the ground. so what do we do? just suck it up? >> well, you could think back historically. and one of the analogies that you can look at is actually the beginning of special operations forces. when john f. kennedy started the s.e.a.l. teams in 1962, he brought an idea, he wanted to have organizations and military units that could bring a flexible response. there's the ideas we needed to flexibly respond as communism was spreading around the world. what we need now is we need a
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strategy that's going to bring organizations like special operations, like our intelligence forces so that we can work creatively with our allies to counter threats from boko haram in nigeria, from isis in iraq and syria. >> doesn't the president have to sign off on any special ops? >> yeah. absolutely. this is ultimately the responsibility of the commander in chief to build a strategy like that. >> all right, zuhdi, last question. yemen, americans are out of there. a few months ago we were winning there. now we're out, military, everybody. are we just giving it up and letting the hutis supported by iran i understand take over? >> it sure seems that way. and the president's video you showed earlier, who's he talking to in the green revolution that would have been the shiites is not who he's talking to. he's talking to the khomeinists of iran. we're militarily leaving and telling the anti-islamist shiites we want nothing to do with you.
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live from america's news headquarters i'm jackie ibanez. security procedures to be reviewed at new orleans international airport. this following an incident friday night when a man with a machete chased a tsa agent down a crowded concourse. you can see some video there. police say he also had six molotov cocktails with him. the man was shot by a jefferson parish deputy sheriff. richard white died from his wounds saturday. white had a history of mental health problems. a chair lift accident leaves seven skiers injured in main. a sugar loaf mountain resort spokesman said about 200 people
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were riding the lift saturday morning when it suddenly stopped, went backwards, throwing riders from the chairs. the lift was evacuated and the injured taken off the mountain. none of the injuries are believed to be life-threatening. i'm jackie ibanez. now back to "justice request w. judge jeanine." more trouble for my friend hillary. a new report says the clinton foundation got millions from foreign nationals while she was at the department of state. this while the foundation's health charity reportedly stopped publishing donor lists in 2010. they say it was just an oversight. really? here to break all the sordid details, jay cost, author of the new book "a republic no more." jay, i have always hated the intersection of politics,
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government, and money, especially for this lady in waiting. what is happening? >> well, that makes two of us to start. and look, i think what the clintons have been doing for, you know, 8 to 16 years, frankly, is building a shadow campaign operation, and they were building it while she was in the state department, while she was in the senate, and i think that that is now coming to light. >> with the, and you know, when she said she wouldn't accept any money once she became secretary of state from these foreign governments, the next thing that happens is there are some of the foreign governments or people connected to the foreign governments, i should say, start giving her money, up to $68 million. and one is someone from the saudi royal family. another is a person from parliament in another country. i mean, you know, it's kind of like this e-mail thing. and now the charity says oh, we forgot to print the names of the donors. and as soon as she's not the secretary of state, the money
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comes in from the foreign governments. >> yeah, it's very concerning. the position of secretary of state is supposed to be one of the most non-partisan positions in the entire government. and for her to be accepting or for her foundation to be accepting contributions from foreign governments while she is in charge of the state department is very peculiar. i just really want to emphasize that this is not something that condoleezza rice did or that john kerry is doing. this is quite frankly without precedent. >> do you think in light of all this happening that she's still going to be the candidate for the democrats in 2016? >> as a matter of fact, i do. not because she's a particularly strong candidate but if you survey the democratic field it is shockingly weak. there is really nobody of sufficient stature to challenge her. now, that may change if more revelations come to light. maybe somebody of greater
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stature will toss into the race. but at this moment right now she towers over the rest of the world. >> okay. so now what we've got is hillary clinton. every week there seems to be another scandal, another issue, whether it's the e-mails, a private server, deleting e-mails, subpoenas. did she break any laws, do you think? >> you know, that's a good question. i'm not sure. but just because she didn't break any laws we shouldn't think that everything that she did was appropriate and aboveboard. you know, oftentimes politicians find ways to behave inappropriately, unethically, without breaking laws. the laws have trouble keeping up with political malpractice, in no small part because politicians write the laws. >> and finally, given that she's taken money from saudi arabia, the saudi arabian government, as well as the royal family, and she talks about a war on women,
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and she is taking huge amounts of money. i really think you could live off the interest or run a country off the interest of the clinton foundation. and she's accepting money from countries where they stone women to death. they don't let women drive. do you think this will hurt her in the 2016 election if she does run? >> i think it can hurt her. it depends upon whom the republicans nominate. i think the clintons have made a political career out of saying one thing and doing another. and it really will come down to whether or not the republicans can make the case effectively to the american people next year. >> all right, jay cost. thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> all right. and coming up, you all heard accused serial murderer robert durst confess he killed them all. but how many is all? tonight, new information on why investigators are now searching for durst's links in other cold cases. stay with us. her cold cases. stay with us. how do i get hotel deals nobody else gets?... i know a guy.
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>>re real estate empire heir and suspected serial killer continues to unfold tonight as investigators question if he's connected to other cold cases. but first, before we talk about that, take a look back at how we got here and my involvement as d.a. in the case. it's the case that first captivated me as d.a. in 2000 and has now captivated the nation. robert durst taken into custody by law enforcement last saturday night in new orleans in the lobby of a marriott hotel. seemingly prepared to live life on the run, durst had a head-to-neck latex mask, $40,000 in cash and a fake i.d. he's being held on a first-degree murder warrant out
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of l.a. but also charged with gun and marijuana possession, both of which were found in his hotel room. durst's lawyer chip lewis says that durst will not fight extradition charges to los angeles but will mount a vigorous defense, just like he's done in the past. >> we the jury find the defendant, robert durst, not guilty. >> money, two murders, and a missing wife haunting the life of eccentric new york real estate heir robert durst for more than 30 years. he says he did not kill his wife or his friend but does he killed, then dismembered his neighbor in texas. it began in 1982. durst's 29-year-old medical student wife kathleen disappeared. fast-forward to spring 2000. as westchester county district attorney i reopened the cold
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case of kathleen durst's disappearance and looked to interview those involved in 1982. december 24th, 2000, shortly before a scheduled interview with durst's close friend and confidant susan berman by members of my office, she is found murdered, shot execution style in her l.a. home. durst in california at the time of susan's murder but never charged by california authorities. with a penchant for dressing like a deaf-mute woman named dorothy, durst next appears in galveston, texas, renting a room in a low-income area next to one morris black. when morris black's body parts wash up along the bay, durst is arrested. he claims that he killed black in self-defense and chopped up the body to escape the scrutiny that durst's defense team claimed i put him under. the jury bought it and durst is
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found not guilty in november 2003. but now in the explosive hbo docu-drama "the jinx" evidence is unearthed that if admitted not only connects but implicates robert durst in the murder of susan berman. this letter found by berman's stepson is alleged to have been sent to his stepmom from durst. it has eerily similar handwriting to this letter that los angeles police received alerting them to a body at susan berm berman's home on december 23rd, 2000. but this new piece of evidence even has the word "beverley" in beverly hills misspelled the same way. could the jinx have finally jinxed robert durst? >> with me now the homicide detective who led the durst murder investigation in galveston, cody kaslev. good evening, detective. fbi authorities are calling all
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local law enforcement in multiple states to review cold cases in places where durst was known to visit. is this unusual? >> not at all. it's not unusual at all. it's standard. when you have somebody like -- that would dismember somebody and that stands out, then the fbi's going to look at what they have and then they're going to call agencies, say can you look into your cold cases, say if you have anything that fits this? >> all right. but this has been going on for a while, hasn't it? there's a body part of morris black, your case in texas, that never watched up on the shore, and i imagine there's been a consistent request for information regarding that body part. >> well, the body part that we didn't recover was morris's head. and there's strong evidence that suggests that it was actually removed from the scene because there were bags left on the scene that you could tell had
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been cut open, and we believe that's the bags that had morris's head in it and somebody took them, took the head. >> the head would certainly indicate whether or not it was an accident or self-defense or shot in the back like susan berman. >> correct. and i believe that's why in all likelihood mr. durst went back and got the head, because he knew when the bags didn't go down and sink, they washed back up on the rocks, he realized he had to do something with that head. he couldn't get all the bags but he had to get that head back. and i believe he went, cut the bags open, took the head out of the bags, and disposed of it, probably in the swamps of new orleans. >> and when you say the swamps of new orleans, it's interesting because he was just arrested one week ago in new orleans. he has a history with that town? >> yes, ma'am. he also had rented a room the same way he did in galveston, he
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did that also in new orleans as a mute female. >> all right. i'm going to ask you one last question. i've always felt that the way that the jury ended up acquitting robert durst, that something actually, you know, was awry. sources tell me that one of the jurors, the most vocal one, actually was in mexico with durst after the trial. does that sound like it's kosher? >> i don't believe it passes the smell test. i received the same information and had seen some pictures. i think him and his wife were in mexico with -- >> and when you say him and his wife, you mean chris lovel, correct? >> yes, ma'am. one of the jurors. >> okay. >> so does it pass the smell test? i don't think it does. but at the same time i believe that -- it's my understanding it
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happened after the trial, that he supposedly became friends with bob durst. it is what it is. >> well, interesting that you'd want to befriend someone who cuts a body up like a pro. detective cazalov, thanks for being with us this evening. >> thank you for having me now, ma'am. >> and joining me now, kathy durst's brother gym mccormick. you know, jim, i've been wanting to ask you, how is your mom? how is she doing after all of this in this past week? >> well, mom is 101 years old. when she gave her taping time to andrew and mark for "the jinx," she was about five years ago or so, she was a lot sharper. she's got a problem with hearing which then compromises her xren comprehension. i'm blessed with three sisters
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who rotate with taking care of her. she still lives at her own home. but her understanding of what's happening has been pretty much kept from her in terms of not wanting to upset her any more than most people would be. >> jim, you and i met 15 years ago, and at that time kathy had been missing for 17 years. can you take the viewers through what it was like the last 33 years, not having any closure in kathleen, your sister's case? >> yes, i can. i've lived it for 33 years. and i've described it to other interviewers. it's kind of like being in a marathon, a 33-year marathon that is now culminating in a two or three-lap sprint, hopefully in l.a., and then back into westchester county. you know, as the dominos begin to fall, the first one has to fall in new orleans, and then we're going to go back to l.a. that domino's going to fall. and the last domino will be my sister kathy's case in washington.
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the pain, the suffering, the loss of hope and the renewal of hope over the years has been literally a roller coaster for myself, my sisters, and when mom was more alert for her too. fortunately, my sisters and i tried to protect her from the direct involvement. so we tell her we'll take care of it, mom. and kathy's taking care of us. >> all right. you've had a week, robert, for -- i'm sorry. you've had a week, jim, for the news to sink in. having heard robert durst say, you know, "killed them all." how did that hit you? how do you feel? >> well, i've had a lot of time to reflect on it since i heard those words. and i paid particular attention to the pronoun in the sentence that preceded "killed them all, of course." he used the pronounce "i" and "killed them all, of course" was a continuation of that stream of
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thought. so to me that was a vindication of something that i and so many others have felt about bob's culpability in my sister's disappearance and probable death. it just now has to go through the legal procedure for the provability of it all. i felt pretty much vindicated because we've held that belief all these years and we would not let that porch light go out ever, ever, ever. >> you know, jim, in "the jinx" jarecki and smerling, obviously genius and we both think so highly of them, but that one scene where they have one of the jurors asking your family to leave when your family had gone to their apartment to ask if they might help finding your sister, it broke my heart. when you see this stuff and you relive what's happened in the last 33 years, do you get angry or frustrated? >> well, you get a lot of emotions. anger is probably the top of the list.
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but you get a lot of emotions. because here you had seymour durst when he was live and that's whose house we were in, we were asked to leave, had so much power he could pick up the telephone and mayor koch would answer the phone directly. and he had an entire organization. lots of financial and political resources that he could have put to work to find his, yes, seymour durst's daughter-in-law. nothing happened. and with the exception of one other relative who reached out to me within the last year, there has been zero, and i mean zero input from the durst family members, the organization. i would even talk to their lawyers. i could care less. i'm just trying to solve the disappearance of kathy along with so many others. i'm avoiding, avoiding speculation, and there is some speculators out there. there are some denial types. you know, the people who say oh, this couldn't be possible. >> the apologists, jim. >> yeah, absolutely, jeanine. i've seen it all.
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but i'm committed and i'm keeping that porch light lit. >> jim mccormick, good to see you. and i have to tell you, i've known you for many years since this was reopened, and i just feel like a cloud has been lifted from you and hopefully it will be completely gone when we find out exactly what happened. thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> jeanine, can i add one thing, jeanine? >> sure. >> okay. there was some speculation about bob knowing the black guy before -- or maybe during kathy's disappearance. some of that is speculation, and it's being looked at very closely because both morris black and his brother harry, who's just recently died, had some sort of interaction with the durst family up in new england. organic farm or whatever. and there may be some issues that have to be resolved there. >> all right. >> i'm hopeful that everybody's looking at this from every angle. thank you so much, jeanine, for having me on. >> oh, yes, jim. and of course morris black the
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didn't even know that accused killer robert durst was married to anyone other than the missing first wife, kathleen. with me now, the publisher of "real deal" magazine, that covers real estate in new york. all right, amir, good evening. you last spoke to deborah yesterday? what did you talk about? >> i did. we've been in contact in this past week several times. >> and what have you spoken about? >> well, over her frustration. you know, she's decided to be on lockdown and not talk to the press, and the press has sort of gone to town on her saying really anything they want to. and there's been a lot of inaccuracies and that's been very frustrating for her. >> well, you know, you say that she hasn't been with bob durst for over a decade, but don't you think it's unusual for a woman who's married to someone, and
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not quiwilling to talk about th relationship is on what you call lockdown? >> well, i can't really speak on that. i'm not her spokesperson or anything like that. >> i'm asking you your opinion. >> my opinion is who knows why people get married and what the reasons are for their, you know, for their communion. but they've known each each oth long time, long before they were married. they were business associates. it's not something that happened overnight or a course of a week. they knew each other a long time and decided to get married. >> you think, amir, highly of deborah. is that correct? >> do i think highly of her? i know her on a business level. as a business person, she's incredibly successful in a very tough market and she's part of a handful of women who've managed to do incredibly well in new york city real estate. >> you know, i must tell you, amir, i have spent most of the day today talking to women who have sued her, talking to women who felt she had cheat cheated
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them out of commission, a lot of them being fired and forced to sue. they are afraid of her and they have a completely different take on this woman and they say she is a woman who will do anything for money. do you think that this marriage to robert durst is based on money? >> that's one of the theories that's out there. but i can't speak on that. that's a good question to ask her. >> do you know whether or not she helped robert durst in trying to get out of the country? >> i think that her pool of compassion has tapped out for robert durst. a lot of people don't know this but the videos from the deposition and the taxi. vo: after years of being treated like she was invisible, it occd to mindy she might actually be invisible. ♪ but mindy was actually not invisible. ooh, what are you doing? can you see me? she had just always been treated that way. yeah.
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on december 24, 2002, shortly after 5:15 p.m. i received a phone call and heard the devastating words that forever changed my life, lacy's missing. i knew in my heart that something terrible happen to my daughter and grandson. my world collapsed around me. >> of the more than 16,000 homicides in 2002 none captivates the nation like the outrageous murder of sharon
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