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zone. talk about why he's quitting the republican party. that should be lively tomorrow. again, thanks for watching us tonight. ms. megyn is next. i am bill o'reilly. please remember the spin always stops here definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, the 2016 race for the white house kicks into gear as texas senator ted cruz becomes the first major candidate to officially announce he is running for president. and tonight in a "the kelly file" exclusive two of his potential gop rivals respond. welcome to a big hour of "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. earlier today at the christian liberty university senator cruz appealed to the conservative base telling the jam-packed arena he's ready to restore america to that shining city on a hill. >> imagine in 2017 a new
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president signing legislation repealing every word of obamacare. [ cheers and applause ] imagine a president who says i will honor the constitution, and under no circumstances will iran be allowed to acquire a nucl weapon. [ cheers and applause ] imagine a president who says we will stand up and defeat radical islamic terrorism. [ cheers and applause ] i believe in you. i believe in the power of millions of courageous conservatives rising up to reignite the promise of america. and that is why today i am announcing that i am running for
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president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] >> did you notice something a little awkward in the background there? you see those red shirts? that's a group of senator rand paul supporters crashing senator cruz's big announcement. earlier tonight i spoke to senator rand paul for his exclusive first reaction. he too has a big announcement himself scheduled for april 7th. senator, good to see you tonight. a lot of rand paul supporters showed up at the ted cruz announcement. was that orchestrated? >> somebody did. i don't know who. i kind of remember those days i went to baylor university and we were all required to go to convocation. some of those required wanted to make sure that just by having to be there they weren't expressing their support. but we were glad to see them there and organized and, you know, excited about the possibility of me running. >> what did you make of ted cruz's remarks today? >> well you know, the interesting thing is i didn't find much i disagreed with. all i heard was the clip you
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played. i've been traveling and busy today. but the thing is you know we kind of come from the same wing of the party and if you look at our voting records you'll find we're very, very similar. i guess what makes us different is probably our approach as to how we would make the party bigger. and i'm a big believer that you should stand on principle and be true to your principles. but i also think that we should take those principles and try to bring in new people with them. so i've spent the last couple years trying to go places republicans haven't gone. and maybe not just throwing out red meat but actually throwing out something intellectually enticing to people who haven't been listening to our message before. >> now, he got out ahead of you. why weren't you first? [ laughter ] >> we'll see. we're thinking about it. and we're pretty close to a decision. and we'll have some kind of announcement april 7th. you know, if people go to randpaul -- or kentuckyforrandpaul.com, they can find out about it
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instantaneously. >> he's got a couple weeks out there ahead of you maybe with respect to fund raising. is that an advantage? >> it's a long battle. we spent the last two years traveling the country taking the message out. we think there's a unique brand of republicanism, a unique brand of conservative constitutionalism that also reaches out to new people. i try to get along with all the wings of the party. but i also am able to take the message of liberty and bill of rights and take it to howard university, urban league, naacp ferguson berkeley and try to bring new people into the party. it isn't just about rousing the base. it's about exciting the base by being for the principles of liberty but then taking those principles of liberty, not diluting them and taking them to new people and bringing them into the party. that's the way you win general elections. >> how can you do with respect to your dad, failed to do? >> i think when you see my polling, the polling that's out there so far nobody is doing
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better than hillary clinton than myself. nobody's picking up more to 3% or 4% above what others are picking up. i think you're already seeing that. >> when you look at the polls right now, the real clear politics average of all polls it's very early so we put that out up front. but you can see here you're behind bush, walker, ben carson mike huckabee and then you're in fifth place now. you are ahead of you know these other guys. >> sort of depends on what poll you look at. your rival station had a poll yesterday that had me tied with a lead for walker and bush. there is sort of a developing first here. also when you poll people not just against each other but against the other side that shows which candidate has the best chance of picking up independent vote. and right now i'm the only one that beats hillary clinton in certain purple states. i'm the only one also that
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scores above all the other republicans in whether or not i can beat her. so there will be a lot of conservatives. ted cruz is a conservative. but it also goes to winnability. and people have to make a decision which is the republican that cannot only excite the base but can also bring new people into the party without giving up principles. >> the interesting thing though that's going to happen and you know as well as i do is that the mainstream media is going to vilify whoever the republican candidate is. they may say nice things about you now, but if you become the nominee, they are going to rip you to shreds. and we saw some of that even from within your own party. john mccain has called you and ted cruz a couple of whacko birds because you don't march to the beat of the same drum as more establishment republicans do. but it will start there and get much worse if you become the nominee. >> i think what you end up needing from any of us whoever might be the nominee, is you do want someone who's a fighter. and the thing is that i think we do need to aggressively go after the clintons. i think we need to go after their corruption. i think we need to call her out
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for not being a consistent defender of womens rights when she's willing to take money from a country that actually would imprison a victim of rape. so there's a lot of hypocrisy on the clinton side, the whole clinton ink and riching themselves. you can't let that go and you will need somebody who will ask tough questions about like why in benghazi didn't she provide the security that our ambassador needed? these are really important questions. and we won't win unless we do aggressively combat her and make sure she explains her record as well. >> i know you have a big announcement of some sort we don't know what it is officially, but it's on april 7th a couple weeks from now. and a five-state tour. start in kentucky, your home state, then new hampshire, south carolina, iowa and nevada. and we will just leave it up to the viewers to try to figure out what you might be announcing and why you might be going to those states thereafter. senator, we will be watching. thanks for being here tonight.
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>> thanks megyn. >> all the best. well, the 2016 story gets even more interesting when we get a chance to hear from donald trump. still ahead, his take on iran senator cruz and why this time will be different for the donald. plus, one more media outlet has now confessed to failing viewers on the hands up don't shoot story. but tonight we will show you who is really guilty in this controversy. and up next, judge andrew napolitano is here on brand new revelations in the hillary clinton e-mail scandal that undercut a key claim from the former secretary. don't go away. >> can you explain how you decided which of the personal e-mails to get rid of how you got rid of them and when and how you'll respond to questions about you being the arbiter of what you release? you can call me shallow... but, i have a wandering eye. i mean, come on. national gives me the control to choose any car in the aisle i want. i could choose you...
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developing tonight new revelations again undercutting hillary clinton's story in the e-mail controversy threatening her possible presidential run. a key part of mrs. clinton's defense is that "the vast majority of the e-mails she was keeping on her own private server and not on the system were nonetheless captured by the feds because she e-mailed staffers on their government accounts." but that might not be true. the clinton team recently delivered roughly 300 e-mails to
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a house committee investigating benghazi. and turns out many of those were sent from hillary's private account to the private accounts private, not state, of her top people. fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano joins me now. i thought this was her recordkeeping attempt? >> do you think she knew that when she said the e-mails i got came from the government and my replies went to the government. guess what? many of her senior aides used the same server she used, her husband's server. her statement that all of the e-mails or vast majority of the e-mails i dealt with were preserved on a government server were not true and she knew it was untrue when she was doing it and knew it was untrue when she stated it at the u.n. >> it was basically bull. however, if you look at what she actually said, the vast majority, so maybe we're getting the small minority we're seeing in the report in "new york times." >> look she had 66,000 e-mails in the time she was secretary of state. she had missed a deleting 33,000
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and surrendering 300. anybody can do the math. that is not a decision for her to make. those are decisions for the government to make by denying the government the ability to do that, by doing it in ka hoots can her senior staff, she conspired to evade the law and broke the law by concealing government's records from the government. >> and if she destroyed them, if she destroyed our records then we're talking about a possible crime. but let's talk about the other thing in the "new york times" report which is that there were messages in there that also spoke to her scheduling, the logistics of her life as secretary and as a woman who happens to be secretary of state. all of that is potentially problematic. >> yes, here's why. depending upon how you look at it there are either three or four security levels for all documents. i don't know where her schedule fits. it's probably the lowest or the second lowest. but it is a secure document. if she goes to the hairdresser, if she goes to the pilates class, if she goes to the
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dentist. that is available to people who want to harm her or harm the government. that is a material breach of classified information. general petraeus was charged and agreed to plead guilty to failing to secure his schedule after he left office. mrs. clinton failed to secure her schedule on a day-to-day basis while she was still in office. >> she maintains there was no breach, nobody hacked into the server and so on. and yet more and more we're hearing security experts come out and say she might not even in know if somebody had gotten in and gotten out. >> if she was hacked by professionals, she probably doesn't know it. we do know one of her familiar correspondents said blumenthal was hacked by a professional because that professional was prosecuted convicted incarcerated and in the process revealed the e-mails he hacked. >> but now we have trey gowdy who issued a direct request to her attorney saying give me the server. he doesn't have subpoena power, but there's a question whether jason chaffetz does on the
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committee that has oversight responsibilities and certainly the full house does. >> this will be up to speaker boehner. clearly the full house has subpoena power for that server. congressman gowdy's committee can only subpoena testimony and documents and electronic documents. he can't subpoena tangible things. the only way to find out what she did as secretary of state, what she destroyed, what she concealed, is subpoena her husband's server whether it goes to the house or independent body review it. >> thanks, judge. >> pleasure immediatemegyn. one media outlet confessing to getting it completely wrong on the hands up, don't shoot. but wait until you see which big names are saying absolutely nothing about their wrongness. while the president and his team keep slamming the palestinian
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click or call. in 2009, you said you supported a peace deal that would recognize a palestinian state, but the day before tuesday's election you completely reversed that. why? >> i didn't. i didn't retract any of the things i said in my speech six years ago calling for a solution in which a demilitarized
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palestinian state recognizes a jewish state. i said that the conditions for that today are not achievable. >> that was israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in an interview last week clarify clarifying comments he made about peace with the palestinians. but days later his mea culpa has yet to satisfy the white house. the president's chief of staff today went after the prime minister again in the latest in the series of attacks from this administration. watch. >> a one-state solution would effectively end israel's nation of the jewish and democratic unilaterally -- would be both wrong and illegal. the united states would never support it. and it's unlikely that israel's other friend either. it would only contribute to israel's further isolation. >> bret stephens is "the wall street journal" former editor and columnist. basically what he was saying is netanyahu is bad, bad, bad and
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wrong wrong, wrong on his policy there saying it in a controversial forum. >> to a group that takes a very left wing view of the israeli situation. >> so president obama dispatches his chief of staff to go to this group he knows doesn't like mr. netanyahu. >> that's exactly right. what's interesting here is the way in which the administration wants this crisis to continue. i mean, the israelis are obviously doing everything they can to try to smooth things over with an administration that's very angry for a variety of reasons. they want to manufacture a crisis. they want this statement from the prime minister, which actually if you read it carefully says exactly what the prime minister said it said. a solution is not available today. >> we can't reach a two-state solution because the palestinian leadership has aligned itself with a terrorist group that wants to destroy israel. so it's tough to have a negotiation. >> that's precisely right. hamas and fattah reached an agreement last -- about a year ago, which makes it very difficult for israel to allow a
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state to come into being where a major party is sworn -- >> i'll tell you why the white house doesn't accept that. they don't accept israel can't negotiate with palestine under the circumstances because we are negotiating with iran when even just this weekend the ayatollah said when people were chanting death to america death to america, hell yeah. i mean he said it a little differently, but he said, yes i agree. he doesn't understand why you can't negotiate with people that want to destroy you. >> maybe the difference is we're 7,000 miles away from iran here in new york city but the israelis are just a few miles away from their enemies in jerusalem on the border with syria. >> so what's this about? obviously the white house can choose which message of mr. netanyahu's to accept. days before the election saying words matter election rhetoric matters. and they've chosen to accept that message as opposed to the one he made after he got re-elected. >> it's kind of an extraordinary statement. remember in 2008 when he was
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running for president obama went to -- went before apec and said jerusalem has to remain the undivided capital of israel. now he walked that statement back. don't have israelis saying well, mr. president, words matter, election rhetoric matters. so this is clearly an attempt by the administration in a fit of anger that netanyahu won despite efforts to defeat him. i think that's not only bad politics, it's really bad policy. we should not have a foreign policy that is aimed at isolating and humiliating the few allies we have left. remember just this weekend we had the complete collapse of the american position in yemen. we are finding our position, our strategy in the middle east is falling apart one country after the next. do we really need to make gratuitous -- we make enemies gratuitously of our friends. i don't think so?
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>> do you think the ayatollah swears? i think i took a little liberty there. >> he does as a matter of fact. >> good to know. bret, great to see you. >> good to be here. well, when others in the media were declaring their sympathy look at this. >> are out there marching with them. >> for the hands up don't shoot protesters, the "the kelly file" was practicing a different kind of journalism. and so was fox news. up next a look at the record on both sides of this story. and donald trump weighing in tonight for big news for the republican presidential field and suggesting that even with all of the potential contenders we're hearing from thus far he may still be the man for the job. what do you think -- the first debate -- republican presidential debate will be hosted in august by fox news channnnnnnnnnnn ♪ ♪
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file" with megyn kelly. new reaction now to a disastrous public relations move by starbucks intended to encourage conversations about race. that idea that created about a week of controversy before hitting the trash can with the latest batch of french roast grounds. ironically almost none of those people is reporting on starbucks -- none of those people focusing on another conversation, like how the mainstream media and some very public personalities helped push a lie about racially charged events in ferguson, missouri. now, some in the media after being publicly shamed are starting to come around. trace gallagher details the story tonight from los angeles. trace. >> megyn, the very same reason that much of the media got the duke lacrosse and trayvon martin cases wrong is also why they got the michael brown case wrong. a basic failure to tell both sides of the story. in fact, the hands up don't shoot mantra was born from the
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eyewitness account of dorian johnson, the man who was with michael brown when they were confronted by officer darren wilson. watch. >> he put his hands in the air and he started to get down. but the officer still approach with his weapon drawn. and he fired several more shots. and my friend died. >> and even though that and every other statement johnson made was untrue it drove the anger in ferguson and the narrative across the country. listen. >> we want you to know that our hearts are out there marching with them. >> a cold-blooded murder said cnn's top legal analyst, an execution says msnbc. where was the information about dorian johnson having a lengthy criminal record including a conviction for lying to police? and where were the eyewitness accounts that fully backed up officer darren wilson? they were here on "the kelly
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file," which was still accused of bias. watch this. >> you have to let both sides be heard. and if both sides are heard, and you have conflicting evidence a good prosecutor gets an indictment. >> yeah. on this show, on this channel unlike any other, you get both sides. >> not even the michael bodden autopsy showing michael brown wasn't shot from behind could sway the protesters. it took the department of justice to finally knock down the hands up, don't shoot myth. watch. >> it remains not only valid but essential to question how such a strong alternative version of events was able to take hold so swiftly and to be accepted to readily. >> and while the accusations rang from coast-to-coast to capitol hill the apology bandwagon is moving slow and silent. the conservative media research center finds that nbc, abc, cbs
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mentioned a handful of 140 times, only cbs declares that the doj report says the narrative was untrue. so the media was called on the carpet. watch. >> we saw members of congress on the steps of the u.s. capitol, hands in the air saying hands up, don't shoot. and if one of them has so far apologized for misleading america, we haven't heard it. enough is enough. >> and only after did "the washington post" jonathan -- admit it was a lie. cnn is also re-evaluating based on unreliable eyewitness accounts, the very same eyewitness accounts they had earlier relied on. megyn. >> trace, thanks. as trace mentioned a number of fox news broadcasts urged caution on the reporting from ferguson. with our initial warnings coming within days of the original shooting and continuing to the department of justice final
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report. watch. breaking tonight president obama dispatching his attorney general eric holder to ferguson missouri after the police shooting of a black 18-year-old leads to riots. and tonight for the first time we are hearing from supporters of the officer behind the gun with what they are calling his side of the story. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. we also got our hands on the official autopsy report of michael brown that appears to refute the hands up narrative that has fueled violent protests for months. you are because you're out there doing this and this may be a lie. i got that. you made that point. you made that point. >> you are not bringing up. >> you're telling one side of the story. >> no i'm not. listen, they've heard that. all right sir. now it's my turn. >> what this report finds, megyn, is that there is a broad pattern of racist policing that gives all cops a bad name. >> so that justifies this, mark?
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what we saw? all these folks with their hands up don't shoot, which did not happen. joining me now host of media buzz howie kurtz. howie, good to see you. >> hi megyn. >> the story's completely fallen apart. completely. we were out there the night of the doj report telling the audience that it had completely fallen apart. and after we went on the air on march 12th and started to publicly shame the media for staying totally silent, near totally silent on this finally, finally two weeks later jonathan of "the washington post" did a mea culpa to his credit, 18 days later "the washington post" itself came out and did a mea culpa saying hands up don't shoot did not happen. where is everyone else? >> it's hard to admit a mistake especially when you have so much invested in that narrative. and it was a narrative that turned out to be false. yes, as mark hannah said there is a problem in this country and in ferguson, missouri with predominantly white police
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departments that discriminate black -- >> which we cover too. >> exactly. but that doesn't mean that what happened in this case we should suspend judgment. and it is hard to do what you did, megyn early on and to say wait for the facts and don't rush to judgment when you have a media mob stampedeing in one direction. and because you get accused of being an apologyist for the police or flat out accused of what happened. >> that's what happened. to me you get used to it because they said i was racially insensitive when i urged caution in the duke coverage and trayvon martin coverage and this coverage now. but you can't look at it as a cheerleader. that's what happened in the mainstream media. if you question the narrative in some of these stories you must be a racist, you must be an islamophobe. we'll get to that with ie yan hirsi next.
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>> if i felt creating almost a lynch mob mentality because it's been a narrative they wanted to push. in fairness of some reporters covering this, they had michael brown friends saying shot in the back which we know was a lie. the ferguson police department in the opening days and weeks didn't say -- >> no i totally disagree with you because law enforcement typically doesn't talk. when i was covering the supreme court for the department of justice it was almost impossible because doj never talks. may they leak sometimes so it's hard to get their side of the story. so you do your best to try to understand what the other side might say or raise the questions about the testimony you have on the first side so as not to mislead the audience there's only one side to the story. >> oh i'm not excusing it. i'm trying to explain this helps explain how one side the side that said this unarmed black kid, this sweet kid as the associated press put it was gunned down. >> the friend of that sweet kid, dorian johnson, who is the liar
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in this case according to doj now has a job w with the city of ferguson and officer wilson who's the real victim here who was attacked by somebody and has lost his entire career, has no job. >> the lesson here is that when you only have one side speaking out -- and you're right. i've covered law enforcement and it's very difficult because they're investigating. they don't want to say things that turn out not to be true. you have to tell the audience, every day you have to remind them in news stories we don't have all the facts. >> what do you make of the four women on cnn on a straight news program, that's what they tell us this show is look at them. straight news program with the sign and the hands up. look at them. where's their apology? >> i haven't seen it. and i am still waiting. and i think that too many people who are supposed to be "straight journalists" along with commentators rush to embrace this false narrative we now know is completely totally utterly false. because it was sort of the cool liberal thing to do to identify
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with victim of what they saw as a racial case. >> you don't use cases like this to prove that you're emp thetic to the very real problem of racism. you have to report with an open mind. you're not there to be a cheerleader for one side or the other. you're there to present both sides. here's my last question pete williams to his credit got that boston marathon terror reporting dead on. the mainstream media hailed him a hero for getting it right, which he did. fox news got this right -- not just me we played on "the kelly file," but fox news urged caution on this case from the very beginning. and tv news to its credit, this was nice, i appreciated this, but it wasn't just me. i'll say for the record sean hannity had a lot of segments, plus o'reilly had a lot of segments urging caution. would the mainstream media ever hail them heroes like we heard about pete williams for urging
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what turned out to be the correct coverage in this story? >> if you are waiting for the mainstream media to say not only that we were wrong in this racially charged case that resulted in so much violence in that town and to credit fox news for being right you're going to hold your breath a long time. >> we don't care about them. what we care about is the folks talked to quinnipiac polling and said fox news is the number one most trusted news outlet, republicans and a lot of independents said that as well. and this is exactly the reason why. >> we should never fall into the trap of trying to turn a news story into a cause or a crusade or a narrative. we have to look at the facts in each case. i think this is evidence of that. >> none of us is perfect. but when we get it wrong we should say so. we'll all try to do a better job of that. howie, good to see you. when governor bobby jindal urged caution, he was attacked and called an islamophobe. and she's next with her very brave stand.
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ayaan hirsi ali, author of heretic. on sale as of tomorrow. great to see you. this is the book called heretic. it's an important book. you are somebody who was brought up in the islamic faith, underwent mutilation they tried to force you into a marriage, you fled and your partner in making a film was murdered because of the film they were making about the dangers of rad call islam. and a death sentence was issued on you. and you have been outspoken about this ever since. the message of your book is it's time for a muslim reformation. what do you mean? >> a muslim reformation now. and what i mean is today, too many people too many children, too many women too many fellow human beings are murdered in the name of islam, in the name of allah, the quran. in the name of sharia law. it's time to stop that now. it's time to change that now.
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>> you talk about how you know, this common use of the term islamophobe and how anybody muslim or not get called if they start to call out the elements of islam to put it mildly controversial. >> it's a way of shutting up debate. and i want to give a shout out to a friend who did a fantastic piece on it in "the washington post" i think january 16th she calls it the honor brigade. it's been going on for at least over a decade. there are countries involved, there are movements involved, there's a lot of money. anybody who tries to draw attention to the shortcomings the theology of jihad, is labeled an islamophobe. >> and you talk about feminists who should be supporting what you do have instead turned on you. >> because they're frightened. they're told if you are a white woman and care about the equality of woman and men, you
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are doing it as islamophobe. your values you know, this is now imperialism, this is now colonialism, and that needs to stop. and what i try to do in the book is you know, let's lee all of that behind. we understand the islamic state is islamic. jihad is islamic. it's all in the legacy of the theology of those of us born into it. now is the time to change it. i try and identify in the book what needs to change. and here's what is new this time. what i didn't have in 2010 when i published -- no 2007 when i published infidel. there are now voices within islam, and within muslim communities who want that change. so i'm not the only one. i'm not that lone voice out there. >> incredible to listen to the egyptian president offer a message just like to a bunch of clerics saying we've got to be
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honest about the corruption of the religion. the president of the united states, barack obama, came out and said islam is a religion of peace and refuses to call isis islamic. do you disagree with that? >> i completely understand and appreciate the fact that he doesn't want any backlash against muslims. and he is trying to protect the muslim community. but as the leader of the free world, i think the best way to protect muslim communities here in the u.s. and at large is to insist and help those who are saying from within let's try and reform our religion now. christianity went through it judeaism went through it. islam is not a religion of peace at this moment. >> how can you say there are so many peace loving muslim sns. >> megyn, there are a lot of peace loving muslims. but in the name of the prophet muhammad and the quran the
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largest number of muslims killed -- women, i don't know if you saw today in afghanistan a woman lynched by a mob because she burned the quran. you know what really got to me? two things, one the government of afghanistan said she is innocent after they investigated the crime. so it's a crime to kill someone for burning the quran, which she didn't do. but then what hurt me and this is what this book is about is the women who carried the coffin. and who went and showed their outrage. and it is with those women we need to be with. that's who our president needs to support. they are literally, literally putting their lives on the line. >> ayaan hirsi ali, the book is called heretic. up next, donald trump. >> well, i don't cocococococo it's more than a network and the cloud. it's reliable uptime. and multi-layered security. it's how you stay connected to each other and to your customers. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions, including an industry leading broadband network,
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donald trump is making headlines, but isn't he always? announcing he is forming an exploratory committee for a possible 2016 for the white house. i spoke to mr. trump, host of "the apprentice," best selling author, real estate mogul earlier tonight. let's start with your exploratory committee and whether you're serious or whether you're just a tease. some say you tease people but then you never see it through all the way. >> i see everything through. everything in my life i've seen through. i've built a great company. one of the great companies. and people understand that, but the country is in serious serious trouble. it's a mess. look at israel, look at russia. people aren't talking about it, putin who hates obama just hates him with like well i think worse than bb, worse than anybody. he's talking about nuclear all the time. i've never even heard this from a major country, russia they're talking about nuclear.
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he's mentioning the nukeclear word. i don't think you've heard it i haven't heard it this started a few months ago. a lot of that is the dislike he's got for obama. >> but obama's going. there's no question obama's going. >> a year and a half's a long time. israel's a mess. the deal with iran looks like it's going to be horrible. looks to me like it's going to be absolutely horrible. somebody that wrote the art of the deal in all fairness, the iran deal could be done in one day. >> how are we going to negotiate with ayatollah death to america i'm in favor of that. >> then you stop negotiating. if they want to make a deal, they're coming back to the table. but we've been negotiating for months and months sanctions be made as strong as can be. >> why do you need to do it? isn't there any republican already in the field who you feel you could get behind? >> i've dealt with politicians my entire life. you never make a bad deal with a politician. they're so easy. they're all talk, no action. i'm very concerned about the
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republicans. china's not going to be ripping off this country. they are ripping us big league. now they're going do devalue their currency yet further which is going to make it almost impossible, i mean just a continuation of impossible to do business for our companies. mexico's now becoming the automobile capital of the world. and we can't do anything about it. >> i hear you talking about a lot of domestic issues. in iran -- now you're going to build a fence. >> i will build the greatest of all fences. >> i know, you're great at building. i know that. >> but mexico they're sending people in by the hundreds of thousands by the millions and yet they're killing us economically. mexico is taking our jobs. on top of the border, which is a total disaster and has to be stopped immediately mexico's taking our jobs. >> we got into this speaking about news you made about south of the border and ted cruz actually being born outside of the united states north of the border in canada. >> it's on north side. >> right. but -- >> i hope he knows what he's
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doing but i thought you had to be born in the country. >> you have to be a natural born citizen. so if you have a parent that's a citizen, even if you were born outside of america that's not an issue. why are they raising this? >> hillary was the original questioning obama then john mccain questioned, they never got it. when i questioned he gave whatever it was he gave. ooip not exactly sure what he gave but he gave something called a birth certificate. i don't know if it was or not. but you have a situation where ted -- and i like ted, ted has one extra level of complication because he was a joint citizen a couple of years ago. he was a canadian and an american citizen just a couple of years ago. so it's one extra level of complication that other people frankly don't have. i'm sure -- i hope he's going to be okay. i think he's a talented guy. he's a nice guy. i like him. but it is one extra level that he has to worry about. >> what did you think of him today? >> well, i thought he was very
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theatrical. i love liberty university. i have the all-time record of attendance. the first question i asked did he break my record. >> that's a competitive spirit that has gotten you to where you are. >> it's a great school. fantastic school. i think the location was good. the crowd is incredible because the students there and people at liberty university they're so enthusiastic about life. >> what do you think -- the first republican presidential debate will be held in august hosted by fox news channel. do you think you'll be on that stage? >> i could very well be. i think i'd like to be. i can fell you that. look i want to see this country be great again. if you notice i said make america great again. >> that's yours? >> i did it two years ago i was saying it now all of a sudden you have iran -- >> if i hear rand paul come out and say you are fired i'm going to say that's not yours. >> but make america great again. ted has it in his deal.
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i called my people i said hey, that's been my line -- >> i should be getting royalties on that. >> especially on the words you're fired. >> well, trump may be a publicity stunt but quinnipiac poll 76% of republican voters said they absolutely either wouldn't vote for trump or probably wouldn't, what do you think of that? >> that's because they all think i'm not running. >> but you're worth $4 billion. that's a lot of money. why would you want to mess with this nightmare of politics? >> i love what i'm doing. but i love the country more. and i can straighten it out. and i can truly make this country great again and nobody else can do what i do. >> great to see you, donald trump. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for being here. >> and texas senator ted cruz will sit down with sean hannity for a full hour tonight on his big announcement today. esurance was born online. which means fewer costs, which saves money. their customer experience is virtually paperless which saves paper, which saves money.
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